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Journey Veterans to get big payday?

Postby Don » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:03 am

I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's multiple lineups in the 70s,80s and 90s before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
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Re: Perry, Cain and Schon to get big payday?

Postby RocknRoll » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:07 am

Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license. Journey's holy trinity, the writers of the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.


Does this only effect the writers? Don't forget about the guy that already has more money than God!!
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Re: Perry, Cain and Schon to get big payday?

Postby Majestic » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:16 am

RocknRoll wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license. Journey's holy trinity, the writers of the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.


Does this only effect the writers? Don't forget about the guy that already has more money than God!!


Benny Hinn?? :wink:
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Postby brywool » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:17 am

Thanks for your concern RocknRoll, but I'm doing okay.

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Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:18 am

brywool wrote:Thanks for your concern RocknRoll, but I'm doing okay.

;)


Where is that money YOU owe ME?!?! :wink:

Perry won't have much left after he pays for all those compliments he owes people money for. :lol:
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:18 am

Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:
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Re: Perry, Cain and Schon to get big payday?

Postby Don » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:20 am

RocknRoll wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license. Journey's holy trinity, the writers of the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.


Does this only effect the writers? Don't forget about the guy that already has more money than God!!


I edited my post to reflect the classic lineups, basically anyone who was involved with their albums, pre digital age, if those older albums have sold as DOWNLOADS at the 12% royalty rate over the last ten years. Theoretically, anyone who performed on those albums should get compensated, the exceptions possibly being ROR, Captured and Dream After Dream which had guys under different contracts, session players, ect. They might miss out depending on how their contracts were worded.
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Don » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:22 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:



Actually, the thanks should go to Eminem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/busin ... .html?_r=1
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:30 am

Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:



Actually, the thanks should go to Eminem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/busin ... .html?_r=1
Good for Marshall and all
the artists who will benefit as a result ... Bad for the people who took a bite out of Apple!!
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:33 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:



Actually, the thanks should go to Eminem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/busin ... .html?_r=1
Good for Marshall and all
the artists who will benefit as a result ... Bad for the people who took a bite out of Apple!!


Fuck Apple! There are ways around Apple. :wink:
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Don » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:35 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:



Actually, the thanks should go to Eminem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/busin ... .html?_r=1
Good for Marshall and all
the artists who will benefit as a result ... Bad for the people who took a bite out of Apple!!


Fuck Apple! There are ways around Apple. :wink:


Apple isn't at fault here, nor Amazon. They paid the money, it's just that the labels didn't distribute it fairly.
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Postby RocknRoll » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:36 am

brywool wrote:Thanks for your concern RocknRoll, but I'm doing okay.

;)


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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:49 am

Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:



Actually, the thanks should go to Eminem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/busin ... .html?_r=1
Good for Marshall and all
the artists who will benefit as a result ... Bad for the people who took a bite out of Apple!!


Fuck Apple! There are ways around Apple. :wink:


Apple isn't at fault here, nor Amazon. They paid the money, it's just that the labels didn't distribute it fairly.

That's right, and if this case wins ...download prices will go ^^^^^^ :wink:
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Don » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:06 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:



Actually, the thanks should go to Eminem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/busin ... .html?_r=1
Good for Marshall and all
the artists who will benefit as a result ... Bad for the people who took a bite out of Apple!!


Fuck Apple! There are ways around Apple. :wink:


Apple isn't at fault here, nor Amazon. They paid the money, it's just that the labels didn't distribute it fairly.

That's right, and if this case wins ...download prices will go ^^^^^^ :wink:


Since the Supreme court refused to hear the appeal, not many options left for the labels beyond a massive settlement agreement.
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:21 am

Don wrote:Since the Supreme court refused to hear the appeal, not many options left for the labels beyond a massive settlement agreement.

Didn't he/MM already settle out of court once ...only w/itunes!?! :?
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Re: Classic Journey lineup to get big payday?

Postby Intell » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:35 am

Don wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Don wrote:I was following up on Andrews link on the frontpage where the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, letting stand a lower court’s decision that digital music should be treated as a license, not a sale. Journey's classic lineups in the 80s, responsible for the band's biggest hits before the digital era may have been only getting a 12% in royalties for their older pre-download songs now being sold digitally. This judgement may now take that up to 50% retroactively. which could include the digital sales of DSB, the Greatest Hits and a lot of their catalog albums and singles that have been downloaded over the last ten years since digital sales went active.
Thanks to JBJ!! :lol:



Actually, the thanks should go to Eminem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/busin ... .html?_r=1


"Four years ago, the producers who discovered Eminem sued his record label, the Universal Music Group, over the way royalties are computed for digital music.....

(Marshall Mathers himself, who performs as Eminem, was not a party to the suit, although he stands to earn millions from it.)"
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