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Postby Deb » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:56 am

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SYNCH wrote:So..............any more memorable post/battles/comments or simply "Melodicrock Set List" out there? It is funny that almost all threads here results into a battleground in some way, getting derailed, lots of f*, s*, cusses, belittles, getting old and just kept coming back, hilarious!


resize your avatar please
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His arm/arms do not need all that wingspan!! :wink:



:wink: Ya wanna talk wingspan...........

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My oh my, Monkeys sure do have long arms! :wink: :lol: :lol:

You make me want to become violent!!


LOL, he's just jealous, he only wishes he could drive women primal. :lol:
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Re: Ari coming to America..........a better discussion

Postby artist4perry » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:40 am

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artist4perry wrote:Not controversial! Memorable! :wink: :lol: :lol: And that was O.K., the calling thing! You were in AMERICA! Come back again! :D


That's the plan, and permanently - either at the end of this year/start of next year, or in 2-3 years time, depending on how Ian and I go with visas and work permits.


Cool! Then someday maybe we can meet! :D
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Postby scarygirl » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:57 pm

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Angel wrote:Oh my! We're doing this again? Seriously, there has to be something better to dig up from the past?


It's all Parfait's fault. :lol:


Kermit is great! Keep on truckin' Parfait; flatten 'em all, one holy roller at a time!


Not saying I'm better than anyone here (well except maybe you Don! :lol: ). I'm not a holy roller. I just happen to believe that we were created by God Almighty. I believe he put this earth here for us and created us in his image. If you want to believe that we were planted here by aliens, or that we just appeared after some giant explosion and evolved from nothing, that's your choice to make. I just believe in God.

I could go on and on for hours, but it's not going to change your minds. You have your belief and I have mine. If I'm wrong, when I die nothing happens and I just fade from existence. If you're wrong... eternity in hell sure sounds like a pretty bad time. :shock:

Now as far as funny or epic previous posts... I'd like to hear some of the classics. Anyone else have some threads to share? :D


I could go on and on for hours, but it's not going to change your minds. You have your belief and I have mine. If I'm wrong, when I die nothing happens and I just fade from existence. If you're wrong... eternity in hell sure sounds like a pretty bad time.



What he said. :lol:
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Postby Arianddu » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:05 am

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G.I.Jim wrote:I could go on and on for hours, but it's not going to change your minds. You have your belief and I have mine. If I'm wrong, when I die nothing happens and I just fade from existence. If you're wrong... eternity in hell sure sounds like a pretty bad time.



What he said. :lol:


Except, by Christian logic, it shouldn't work like that. God is all knowing, all powerful, and all loving. So an all-loving god condemns people to eternal agony for the sin of not believing in him? Regardless of what sort of life that person has lead? But a mass-murdering rapist who tortured thousands of people is guaranteed salvation if before he or she dies, they believe and ask for forgiveness? That's not the definition of all-loving. I'll grant people their beliefs and show as much respect as I can, especially for people I respect, but not for a belief in hell. I don't care who you are, or how much I like you - the concept of hell is total bunk, and one of the crazier forms of social control religion has invented, and I'm not afraid to say it.

I have my own views on this subject. I am not going to pretend to believe in a God, or follow a single religion's dictates on what is right and proper, simply on the off-chance that if God does exist, I don't want to go to hell.

Instead, I see it like this: I try to live my life as a moral person; I don't deliberately hurt or injure other people if I can help it, and I try to help others when I can, and be patient and forgiving of their foibles; I don't steal, I don't lie, I don't cheat on my partner, I don't physically, mentally or emotionally harm others, I don't show disrespect to the older members of my family (or the younger ones, for that matter), I don't get hung up on other people owning things I don't and I'm actively opposed not only to murder but to my nation creating situations where its military personnel have to kill people; most importantly, I understand there are consequences to every action that I take, and I take responsibility for them. In other words, I try to be a good person as best I can, not because I believe there is a god that wants me to, or because I believe there will be some reward for me after I die, or because I am afraid of punishment after I die if I don't live this way.

Now, if God exists, and really is all knowing, all powerful and all loving, then my life, and not what I profess to believe is what is going to be important. And if believing in that god is so very essential that I am damned for all eternity because I don't believe, then that God will know that no human being can possibly be so good as to meet the standards he has created for acceptance - or else god is a hypocrit. In the end, it's simple: I know I have this life, I choose to live it as fully and as responsibly as I can. I can't know what happens after, so why fret about what might happen after I die?

Although having said all that, the idea that the Devil is pretending to be God and is making prank calls to Fred Phelps does amuse me.
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Postby Arianddu » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:17 am

Love you too, B!
Why treat life as a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in an attractive & well-preserved body? Get there by skidding in sideways, a glass of wine in one hand, chocolate in the other, body totally worn out, screaming WOOHOO! What a ride!
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Postby Behshad » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:21 am

Arianddu wrote:Love you too, B!



I think we all know how you feel about evolution and God. Why not find one of your memorable feuds with blueskies ;)
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Postby scarygirl » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:41 am

Fear of a fiery hell is the least of it. Hell quite simply is a separation from God, a separation from love, a separation from all that is good. That in itself should make someone think twice. That said, I do subscribe to the Hell as described in the Bible,. a fiery place from which there is no escape. (I am paraprasing here).

As to our works or sins. The Bible states that no sin is better or worse than the other. Some sins quite obviously have more viralent effects on others: child molestation, rape, murder etc, but the reason why God gives everyone a chance, even the child molestor, is that he doesn't want anyone to be separated from him.. Jesus, his son who died for us all, did not hang out with the in crowd, the rich, the wanted. He hung out with and counseled the unwanted of society, those that had messed up, lepers, prostitutes and the like.

God's love for us is not based on our works, but our love for him and williness to serve him through serving the needs of others.

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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:50 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:You have your belief and I have mine. If I'm wrong, when I die nothing happens and I just fade from existence. If you're wrong... eternity in hell sure sounds like a pretty bad time. :shock:


Unless you're wrong and Mohammad and 1 billion other Muslims were right. Then you're still going to Hell.

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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:22 pm

scarygirl wrote:he doesn't want anyone to be separated from him..


The a perfect God would have created a perfect, infallible creation that couldn't be separated from him. I know some people say that God did create man as perfect, but this perfect creation became corrupted by evil. I'd think a perfect creation would be incorruptible, and for that matter, no such corrupting element could even exist. But... supposedly God created us with free will because he doesn't want to force anybody to love him. "Turn or burn" isn't freedom of choice, and any kind of love tied to a survival choice isn't real love at all.

scarygirl wrote:God's love for us is not based on our works, but our love for him and williness to serve him through serving the needs of others.


You may not have intended it as such, but you've just described the very definition of conditional love. I thought his love was unconditional.


scarygirl wrote:Gallations 5-22 (not to be a spelling Nazi, but it's "Galatians")
New International Version (©1984)
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,



scarygirl wrote:Some sins quite obviously have more viralent effects on others: child molestation, rape, murder etc, but the reason why God gives everyone a chance, even the child molestor is that he doesn't want anyone to be separated from him.


When the fruits of the spirit don't even work for spiritual leaders, it poses a few problems. :)
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Postby scarygirl » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:59 pm

quote="scarygirl"]God's love for us is not based on our works, but our love for him and williness to serve him through serving the needs of others.


You may not have intended it as such, but you've just described the very definition of conditional love. I thought his love was unconditional.[/quote]

I was trying to tie my remarks to FRUITS of the spirit. My understanding is that when he dwells within us, our fruits (love, kindness, joy) will show through and can only affect ours works. It isn't our works, but trusting in him alone.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:04 am

Here's my view of what a proper religion/church would constitute. I should start my own church. Anyway:

-walking through the door to my church, one has to readily admit that there is no proof of God, there never has been and if anyone brings up the word "faith" they get laughed at, shit thrown at them and are told to leave immediately.

-Kneeling is not allowed and God is never to be worshiped. Implying God is a needy, narcissistic, bored fuck that needs to be praised simply isn't allowed. No God would create people to serve and praise him. That entire premise is staggering in its stupidity. Being grateful for what you have is encouraged, as is striving to gain more financially and spiritually.

-all beliefs, suggestions, theories, etc. are to be organic and brought in from the exclusion of what we know as today's "religious" institutions. They're all failures and manipulate people. Every one of them.

-all members must be employed, newly unemployed or their spouse must be employed. No deadbeats allowed. Contributions will be tracked by an independent accountant and the allocation of all monies will be voted on. We will also pay all applicable taxes, like any other business.

-daily and Sunday masses will be a generally open forum. The sit/kneel/stand/pray garbage will have no place in my church. The discussion will center around family first, community second and the general world, lastly. The goal will be to make better men, women children and families. Fiscal and moral responsibility will be promoted, and all members will be encouraged to live healthy lifestyles (I need some work in this area!). The primary focus, though, will be to make better children for this world. Some old bastard reading 2,000 year old books will not be allowed. Topics like education, hygiene, peer pressure, bullying, drugs, alcohol, and education will be discussed. Small group and family discussion will be encouraged. Adults will talk about the pressures of parenthood, employment, stress and life's other important issues. We're promoting better people and lives, not an agenda.

-transparency will be the norm. No one is better than anyone and there is no hierarchy. Everyone is on a first name basis, but children will learn to address adults as "Mr" or Miss/Mrs." Open forum mass can be led by anyone that has submitted a topic or topics that the rest of the congregation passes via a vote.

-we're gonna do shit to make ourselves and others better, and have some fun. Expect to participate in group/family trips to museums, parks (picnics), shelters, children's hospitals and movies/concerts. We'll offer tutoring to struggling children, counseling for troubled marriages and drug and alcohol programs for those affected members. We will not turn a blind eye to our parishioners in need.

-we'll constantly strive to keep things new and refreshing. Our goal will always to make stronger men, women, children, parents and citizens. Our service to "God" will be shown through each other, how we love ourselves and each other. While we'll never admit to knowing if God exists, we'll take solace in knowing that we're making ourselves and the world a little bit better. And that's good enough.

That's all I can think of, off of the top of my head.

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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:17 am

:lol: Some good, some I can live without ...will we still be addressing
you as Saint John in your church?!? I'll come for the food fights
alone ...sounds fun!! :wink:
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Postby Saint John » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:46 am

Michigan Girl wrote::lol: Some good, some I can live without ...will we still be addressing
you as Saint John in your church?!? I'll come for the food fights
alone ...sounds fun!! :wink:


"Dan" or "Mr Asshole" will do just fine, MG. :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:48 am

Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote::lol: Some good, some I can live without ...will we still be addressing
you as Saint John in your church?!? I'll come for the food fights
alone ...sounds fun!! :wink:


"Dan" or "Mr Asshole" will do just fine, MG. :lol:


Can we still have wine?? :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:52 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote::lol: Some good, some I can live without ...will we still be addressing
you as Saint John in your church?!? I'll come for the food fights
alone ...sounds fun!! :wink:


"Dan" or "Mr Asshole" will do just fine, MG. :lol:


Can we still have wine?? :lol:


Sure! Cupcakes and cookies, too! Just not together. :lol: :wink:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:53 am

Saint John wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote::lol: Some good, some I can live without ...will we still be addressing
you as Saint John in your church?!? I'll come for the food fights
alone ...sounds fun!! :wink:


"Dan" or "Mr Asshole" will do just fine, MG. :lol:


Can we still have wine?? :lol:


Sure! Cupcakes and cookies, too! Just not together. :lol: :wink:


CUPCAKES!!! Well then you KNOW I'm in!!! And you had MG at COOKIES!! ;) :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:20 am

Saint John wrote:Here's my view of what a proper religion/church would constitute. I should start my own church. Anyway:

-walking through the door to my church, one has to readily admit that there is no proof of God, there never has been and if anyone brings up the word "faith" they get laughed at, shit thrown at them and are told to leave immediately.

-Kneeling is not allowed and God is never to be worshiped. Implying God is a needy, narcissistic, bored fuck that needs to be praised simply isn't allowed. No God would create people to serve and praise him. That entire premise is staggering in its stupidity. Being grateful for what you have is encouraged, as is striving to gain more financially and spiritually.

-all beliefs, suggestions, theories, etc. are to be organic and brought in from the exclusion of what we know as today's "religious" institutions. They're all failures and manipulate people. Every one of them.

-all members must be employed, newly unemployed or their spouse must be employed. No deadbeats allowed. Contributions will be tracked by an independent accountant and the allocation of all monies will be voted on. We will also pay all applicable taxes, like any other business.

-daily and Sunday masses will be a generally open forum. The sit/kneel/stand/pray garbage will have no place in my church. The discussion will center around family first, community second and the general world, lastly. The goal will be to make better men, women children and families. Fiscal and moral responsibility will be promoted, and all members will be encouraged to live healthy lifestyles (I need some work in this area!). The primary focus, though, will be to make better children for this world. Some old bastard reading 2,000 year old books will not be allowed. Topics like education, hygiene, peer pressure, bullying, drugs, alcohol, and education will be discussed. Small group and family discussion will be encouraged. Adults will talk about the pressures of parenthood, employment, stress and life's other important issues. We're promoting better people and lives, not an agenda.

-transparency will be the norm. No one is better than anyone and there is no hierarchy. Everyone is on a first name basis, but children will learn to address adults as "Mr" or Miss/Mrs." Open forum mass can be led by anyone that has submitted a topic or topics that the rest of the congregation passes via a vote.

-we're gonna do shit to make ourselves and others better, and have some fun. Expect to participate in group/family trips to museums, parks (picnics), shelters, children's hospitals and movies/concerts. We'll offer tutoring to struggling children, counseling for troubled marriages and drug and alcohol programs for those affected members. We will not turn a blind eye to our parishioners in need.

-we'll constantly strive to keep things new and refreshing. Our goal will always to make stronger men, women, children, parents and citizens. Our service to "God" will be shown through each other, how we love ourselves and each other. While we'll never admit to knowing if God exists, we'll take solace in knowing that we're making ourselves and the world a little bit better. And that's good enough.

That's all I can think of, off of the top of my head.

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Postby Don » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:31 am

Melissa wrote:
Saint John wrote:Here's my view of what a proper religion/church would constitute. I should start my own church. Anyway:

-walking through the door to my church, one has to readily admit that there is no proof of God, there never has been and if anyone brings up the word "faith" they get laughed at, shit thrown at them and are told to leave immediately.

-Kneeling is not allowed and God is never to be worshiped. Implying God is a needy, narcissistic, bored fuck that needs to be praised simply isn't allowed. No God would create people to serve and praise him. That entire premise is staggering in its stupidity. Being grateful for what you have is encouraged, as is striving to gain more financially and spiritually.

-all beliefs, suggestions, theories, etc. are to be organic and brought in from the exclusion of what we know as today's "religious" institutions. They're all failures and manipulate people. Every one of them.

-all members must be employed, newly unemployed or their spouse must be employed. No deadbeats allowed. Contributions will be tracked by an independent accountant and the allocation of all monies will be voted on. We will also pay all applicable taxes, like any other business.

-daily and Sunday masses will be a generally open forum. The sit/kneel/stand/pray garbage will have no place in my church. The discussion will center around family first, community second and the general world, lastly. The goal will be to make better men, women children and families. Fiscal and moral responsibility will be promoted, and all members will be encouraged to live healthy lifestyles (I need some work in this area!). The primary focus, though, will be to make better children for this world. Some old bastard reading 2,000 year old books will not be allowed. Topics like education, hygiene, peer pressure, bullying, drugs, alcohol, and education will be discussed. Small group and family discussion will be encouraged. Adults will talk about the pressures of parenthood, employment, stress and life's other important issues. We're promoting better people and lives, not an agenda.

-transparency will be the norm. No one is better than anyone and there is no hierarchy. Everyone is on a first name basis, but children will learn to address adults as "Mr" or Miss/Mrs." Open forum mass can be led by anyone that has submitted a topic or topics that the rest of the congregation passes via a vote.

-we're gonna do shit to make ourselves and others better, and have some fun. Expect to participate in group/family trips to museums, parks (picnics), shelters, children's hospitals and movies/concerts. We'll offer tutoring to struggling children, counseling for troubled marriages and drug and alcohol programs for those affected members. We will not turn a blind eye to our parishioners in need.

-we'll constantly strive to keep things new and refreshing. Our goal will always to make stronger men, women, children, parents and citizens. Our service to "God" will be shown through each other, how we love ourselves and each other. While we'll never admit to knowing if God exists, we'll take solace in knowing that we're making ourselves and the world a little bit better. And that's good enough.

That's all I can think of, off of the top of my head.

:)


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Postby scarygirl » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:03 am

Don wrote:
Melissa wrote:
Saint John wrote:Here's my view of what a proper religion/church would constitute. I should start my own church. Anyway:

-walking through the door to my church, one has to readily admit that there is no proof of God, there never has been and if anyone brings up the word "faith" they get laughed at, shit thrown at them and are told to leave immediately.

-Kneeling is not allowed and God is never to be worshiped. Implying God is a needy, narcissistic, bored fuck that needs to be praised simply isn't allowed. No God would create people to serve and praise him. That entire premise is staggering in its stupidity. Being grateful for what you have is encouraged, as is striving to gain more financially and spiritually.

-all beliefs, suggestions, theories, etc. are to be organic and brought in from the exclusion of what we know as today's "religious" institutions. They're all failures and manipulate people. Every one of them.

-all members must be employed, newly unemployed or their spouse must be employed. No deadbeats allowed. Contributions will be tracked by an independent accountant and the allocation of all monies will be voted on. We will also pay all applicable taxes, like any other business.

-daily and Sunday masses will be a generally open forum. The sit/kneel/stand/pray garbage will have no place in my church. The discussion will center around family first, community second and the general world, lastly. The goal will be to make better men, women children and families. Fiscal and moral responsibility will be promoted, and all members will be encouraged to live healthy lifestyles (I need some work in this area!). The primary focus, though, will be to make better children for this world. Some old bastard reading 2,000 year old books will not be allowed. Topics like education, hygiene, peer pressure, bullying, drugs, alcohol, and education will be discussed. Small group and family discussion will be encouraged. Adults will talk about the pressures of parenthood, employment, stress and life's other important issues. We're promoting better people and lives, not an agenda.

-transparency will be the norm. No one is better than anyone and there is no hierarchy. Everyone is on a first name basis, but children will learn to address adults as "Mr" or Miss/Mrs." Open forum mass can be led by anyone that has submitted a topic or topics that the rest of the congregation passes via a vote.

-we're gonna do shit to make ourselves and others better, and have some fun. Expect to participate in group/family trips to museums, parks (picnics), shelters, children's hospitals and movies/concerts. We'll offer tutoring to struggling children, counseling for troubled marriages and drug and alcohol programs for those affected members. We will not turn a blind eye to our parishioners in need.

-we'll constantly strive to keep things new and refreshing. Our goal will always to make stronger men, women, children, parents and citizens. Our service to "God" will be shown through each other, how we love ourselves and each other. While we'll never admit to knowing if God exists, we'll take solace in knowing that we're making ourselves and the world a little bit better. And that's good enough.

That's all I can think of, off of the top of my head.

:)


Love it, count me in!


As long I don't find a copy of Dianetics in every pew, we're cool.


What about little Steve Perry statues bathed in soft candle light with FLOSM playing wistffully in the background? :lol:
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Postby artist4perry » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:11 am

Saint John wrote:Here's my view of what a proper religion/church would constitute. I should start my own church. Anyway:

-walking through the door to my church, one has to readily admit that there is no proof of God, there never has been and if anyone brings up the word "faith" they get laughed at, shit thrown at them and are told to leave immediately.

-Kneeling is not allowed and God is never to be worshiped. Implying God is a needy, narcissistic, bored fuck that needs to be praised simply isn't allowed. No God would create people to serve and praise him. That entire premise is staggering in its stupidity. Being grateful for what you have is encouraged, as is striving to gain more financially and spiritually.

-all beliefs, suggestions, theories, etc. are to be organic and brought in from the exclusion of what we know as today's "religious" institutions. They're all failures and manipulate people. Every one of them.

-all members must be employed, newly unemployed or their spouse must be employed. No deadbeats allowed. Contributions will be tracked by an independent accountant and the allocation of all monies will be voted on. We will also pay all applicable taxes, like any other business.

-daily and Sunday masses will be a generally open forum. The sit/kneel/stand/pray garbage will have no place in my church. The discussion will center around family first, community second and the general world, lastly. The goal will be to make better men, women children and families. Fiscal and moral responsibility will be promoted, and all members will be encouraged to live healthy lifestyles (I need some work in this area!). The primary focus, though, will be to make better children for this world. Some old bastard reading 2,000 year old books will not be allowed. Topics like education, hygiene, peer pressure, bullying, drugs, alcohol, and education will be discussed. Small group and family discussion will be encouraged. Adults will talk about the pressures of parenthood, employment, stress and life's other important issues. We're promoting better people and lives, not an agenda.

-transparency will be the norm. No one is better than anyone and there is no hierarchy. Everyone is on a first name basis, but children will learn to address adults as "Mr" or Miss/Mrs." Open forum mass can be led by anyone that has submitted a topic or topics that the rest of the congregation passes via a vote.

-we're gonna do shit to make ourselves and others better, and have some fun. Expect to participate in group/family trips to museums, parks (picnics), shelters, children's hospitals and movies/concerts. We'll offer tutoring to struggling children, counseling for troubled marriages and drug and alcohol programs for those affected members. We will not turn a blind eye to our parishioners in need.

-we'll constantly strive to keep things new and refreshing. Our goal will always to make stronger men, women, children, parents and citizens. Our service to "God" will be shown through each other, how we love ourselves and each other. While we'll never admit to knowing if God exists, we'll take solace in knowing that we're making ourselves and the world a little bit better. And that's good enough.

That's all I can think of, off of the top of my head.

:)


How about I like you just the way your are, and not attend your church? And we both respect each other mutually for just being the same annoying folks that we are? LOL!

I guess we all have a theory and an idea of how the world works. Great thing is there is no real need to cram it down each others throats, good humor is great to vent the tensions. I am not too fond of calling you Dan, would Mr. A$$&*%@@ be preferable? Hugs Dan! :wink: :D
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