Lawrence Gowan- Amazing performance

by **G.I.Jim** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:33 pm

To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

by **Andrew** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:08 pm

Gowan rules....I have all his solo albums. Amazoing songwriter. Glad he is doing well., but pissed there has been no solo album for years. Lost Brotherhood is killer and They Call Me Larry is a masterpiece.

by **ebake02** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:36 pm

I've always liked this tune.

by **Babyblue** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:15 am

Andrew wrote:Gowan rules....I have all his solo albums. Amazoing songwriter. Glad he is doing well., but pissed there has been no solo album for years. Lost Brotherhood is killer and They Call Me Larry is a masterpiece.

Love him

I have alll his CD'S like you i wish for another solo CD

by **Babyblue** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:24 am

G.I.Jim wrote:To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

I love this song.

I wish you would take this to the Styx fourm.

by **Everett** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:16 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jHyu1hNVA

Killer

by **S2M** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:25 am

Everett wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jHyu1hNVA

Killer

Dude looks and sings like Sir Paul....dude can bring it. on CYCLORAMA.....as for singing DDY'S stuff....it's god-awful. Except for babyblue who has some unhealthy fatal attraction to ole Leisure Suit larry, and Drew, that likes ANYTHING...I can't believe anyone likes this stuff with him bastardizing these Styx songs...

Honestly, do they think we are stupid? Styx kicked Dennis out so they could have more control of 'their' band. Tommy wasn't even around at the beginning(a la Jon Cain)....I guess JY is the Neal of the group. And they wanted to rock out more. But just like Journey 86'd JSS so they could keep going with that legacy sound, that they only kept for ONE album, just like Styx only has ONE album with new material with GowanHome - it's a bait and switch. Neither group is doing what they originally said they were going to do....if you are only going to tour the D12, why not bring Dennis back? He's not keeping you from writing rocking songs - hell, you ain't writing at all.

These bands are sad.

by **DrFU** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:36 am

Some of us don't let idealized, largely invented, remembrances of the past prevent our enjoyment of the present.

Gowan rocks.

by **S2M** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:50 am

DrFU wrote:Some of us don't let idealized, largely invented, remembrances of the past prevent our enjoyment of the present.

Gowan rocks.

That's not it at all...VERY few subsitutes do the material justice. Gowan isn't one of them. Arnel is better at Journey stuff. I can see putting up with it, but to sing it's praises - that's where I get confused. It's more a question of calling these bands out for the decisions they make under false pretenses. Styx got rid of Dennis so they could get rid of the balladeer. One original album later, and they are back where they started....they're not writing non-ballads - they aren't writing anything at all....so that tells me they are liars. Just like Journey. Deen's a junkie/alcoholic....if Jeff said something to that effect, good on him. But don't lie and say that Jeff wasn't a good fit for the band - Neal hired him for a reason....LIES.

There's nothing largely invented here, Linda....you're better than that.

by **brywool** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:09 am

DrFU wrote:Some of us don't let idealized, largely invented, remembrances of the past prevent our enjoyment of the present.

NICE ONE!

by **brywool** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:22 am

S2M wrote:
DrFU wrote:Some of us don't let idealized, largely invented, remembrances of the past prevent our enjoyment of the present.

Gowan rocks.

That's not it at all...VERY few subsitutes do the material justice. Gowan isn't one of them. Arnel is better at Journey stuff. I can see putting up with it, but to sing it's praises - that's where I get confused. It's more a question of calling these bands out for the decisions they make under false pretenses. Styx got rid of Dennis so they could get rid of the balladeer. One original album later, and they are back where they started....they're not writing non-ballads - they aren't writing anything at all....so that tells me they are liars. Just like Journey. Deen's a junkie/alcoholic....if Jeff said something to that effect, good on him. But don't lie and say that Jeff wasn't a good fit for the band - Neal hired him for a reason....LIES.

There's nothing largely invented here, Linda....you're better than that.

He was NOT a good fit for the band, otherwise he'd be there.
As for Deen- it's his business. Journey doesn't seem to be languishing (as Styx has definitely done). They seem to be using all the momentum brought by Arnel and Glee (god, did I just friggin' say that????), etc. Good on them for doing that. Their new album will not satisfy the Perry diehards. Nothing will other than Perry coming out of retirement. It'll happen any day...
okay... WAIT AND SEE.

Now?

Okay...

Now?

I don't know WHAT the hell Styx is doing. To not follow up Cyclo (loved it!) with another original album is just lame. Gowan does okay with the Dennis stuff and their tours show that they're doing something right. He's definitely not as good as Dennis in the voice department. He's twice the entertainer Dennis is though and I also think he's the better player- my opinion. However, Dennis did also have a lot of vision- though some of it was questionable (Kilroy). Styx got rid of Dennis to rock and got Burtnik & Gowan to replace Dennis' writing. Burtnik left. VERY sad day as he was a major writer and truth be told, to have more JY tracks on an album than Burtnik tracks blew and blew hard. JY should get one song per album. He's Styx's Ringo. Burtnik is as good as Shaw in the vocal department and writing department. They should've kept him happy.

Now, they are just aimless. Too bad.

by **Michigan Girl** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:39 am

You sound like a "whiny bitch", ^^^^^!! :lol:

This is a great performance!! :wink:

by **Babyblue** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:57 am

DrFU wrote:Some of us don't let idealized, largely invented, remembrances of the past prevent our enjoyment of the present.

Gowan rocks.

by **Babyblue** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:57 am

Everett wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jHyu1hNVA

Killer

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Yes it was. :wink:

by **G.I.Jim** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:38 am

Michigan Girl wrote:You sound like a "whiny bitch", ^^^^^!!

This is a great performance!!

You kill me lady! :lol:

It is a great performance. I haven't been able to get the song out of my head all day.. Know what that means? Now I have to watch it again!

by **Ehwmatt** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:59 am

brywool wrote:
S2M wrote:
DrFU wrote:Some of us don't let idealized, largely invented, remembrances of the past prevent our enjoyment of the present.

Gowan rocks.

That's not it at all...VERY few subsitutes do the material justice. Gowan isn't one of them. Arnel is better at Journey stuff. I can see putting up with it, but to sing it's praises - that's where I get confused. It's more a question of calling these bands out for the decisions they make under false pretenses. Styx got rid of Dennis so they could get rid of the balladeer. One original album later, and they are back where they started....they're not writing non-ballads - they aren't writing anything at all....so that tells me they are liars. Just like Journey. Deen's a junkie/alcoholic....if Jeff said something to that effect, good on him. But don't lie and say that Jeff wasn't a good fit for the band - Neal hired him for a reason....LIES.

There's nothing largely invented here, Linda....you're better than that.

He was NOT a good fit for the band, otherwise he'd be there.
As for Deen- it's his business. Journey doesn't seem to be languishing (as Styx has definitely done). They seem to be using all the momentum brought by Arnel and Glee (god, did I just friggin' say that????), etc. Good on them for doing that. Their new album will not satisfy the Perry diehards. Nothing will other than Perry coming out of retirement. It'll happen any day...
okay... WAIT AND SEE.

Now?

Okay...

Now?

I don't know WHAT the hell Styx is doing. To not follow up Cyclo (loved it!) with another original album is just lame. Gowan does okay with the Dennis stuff and their tours show that they're doing something right. He's definitely not as good as Dennis in the voice department. He's twice the entertainer Dennis is though and I also think he's the better player- my opinion. However, Dennis did also have a lot of vision- though some of it was questionable (Kilroy). Styx got rid of Dennis to rock and got Burtnik & Gowan to replace Dennis' writing. Burtnik left. VERY sad day as he was a major writer and truth be told, to have more JY tracks on an album than Burtnik tracks blew and blew hard. JY should get one song per album. He's Styx's Ringo. Burtnik is as good as Shaw in the vocal department and writing department. They should've kept him happy.

Now, they are just aimless. Too bad.

Cyclo was great. Really a shame they've done nothing in ... has it been 10 years since Cyclo? Wow. EDIT: Nevermind, been 8 years. Still though... wow.

by **Babyblue** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:05 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:You sound like a "whiny bitch", ^^^^^!!

This is a great performance!!

You kill me lady! It is a great performance. I haven't been able to get the song out of my head all day.. Know what that means? Now I have to watch it again!

Go ahead and tell everyone you get into Mr G music with Styx. :wink:

by **Michigan Girl** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:15 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:You sound like a "whiny bitch", ^^^^^!!

This is a great performance!!

You kill me lady! It is a great performance. I haven't been able to get the song out of my head all day.. Know what that means? Now I have to watch it again!

I was really just kidding w/bry...long story, but he is not a WB,
I am... :shock:

by **Babyblue** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:08 am

Michigan Girl wrote:You sound like a "whiny bitch", ^^^^^!!

This is a great performance!!

by **Joe Vana** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:09 am

G.I.Jim wrote:To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

NOT ONCE have I ever listened to Gowan...or Styx since Dennis left...since I am friends with DDY I figured it wasn't worth it to ever listen to them again....I was WRONG....this is an amazing song preformed amazingly well....

I guess I better give Stxy another look....

JV

by **Babyblue** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:07 am

Joe Vana wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

NOT ONCE have I ever listened to Gowan...or Styx since Dennis left...since I am friends with DDY I figured it wasn't worth it to ever listen to them again....I was WRONG....this is an amazing song preformed amazingly well....

I guess I better give Stxy another look....

JV

Jon, i will say i still love DDY. But "Gowan" rocks. :wink:

Go to a concert when they are in town it is so worth it.Now if DDY would come close to where i lived.

by **Starrider** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:12 am

Thanks for posting the link, Jim.

I have seen Styx a few times with LG. I saw them twice on their own and a few times when they were on tour with Boston in 2008. Never saw Styx with DDY, but I think LG does a pretty good job with Styx. Never saw Glen with Styx, but did see him just over a year ago with The Orchestra in Atlantic City.

Never heard any solo Gowan stuff before, but this song is great and I have listened to it a few dozen times. I can see why you like it so much. Pretty powerful song. I found the original Gowan version, and it has an extremely dated sound, but the arrangement that Styx has done brings a much more current feel to it. It's strange that this arrangement leaves the first few lines of the first verse out.

I thought Styx was great with LG and will go back and see them any time they are in the area. They should add this to their regular set list. Would probably help in establishing LG as the talented musician he is, rather than the perception people have of him being a low-grade DDY replacement, which he is not. Really showcases his strengths as a songwriter, keyboardist, and singer in a context where people can't say he's trying too hard to sing or play like DDY.

I, too, wish they would write and record full albums of new stuff rather than putting out re-records with scattered new material.

by **Babyblue** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:23 am

Starrider wrote:Thanks for posting the link, Jim.

I have seen Styx a few times with LG. I saw them twice on their own and a few times when they were on tour with Boston in 2008. Never saw Styx with DDY, but I think LG does a pretty good job with Styx. Never saw Glen with Styx, but did see him just over a year ago with The Orchestra in Atlantic City.

Never heard any solo Gowan stuff before, but this song is great and I have listened to it a few dozen times. I can see why you like it so much. Pretty powerful song. I found the original Gowan version, and it has an extremely dated sound, but the arrangement that Styx has done brings a much more current feel to it. It's strange that this arrangement leaves the first few lines of the first verse out.

I thought Styx was great with LG and will go back and see them any time they are in the area. They should add this to their regular set list. Would probably help in establishing LG as the talented musician he is, rather than the perception people have of him being a low-grade DDY replacement, which he is not. Really showcases his strengths as a songwriter, keyboardist, and singer in a context where people can't say he's trying too hard to sing or play like DDY.

I, too, wish they would write and record full albums of new stuff rather than putting out re-records with scattered new material.

Thank You

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:57 am

Joe Vana wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

NOT ONCE have I ever listened to Gowan...or Styx since Dennis left...since I am friends with DDY I figured it wasn't worth it to ever listen to them again....I was WRONG....this is an amazing song preformed amazingly well....

I guess I better give Stxy another look....

JV

Very cool Joe! I'm glad you liked it. This really is an amazing performance, and it's a very powerful song. You really owe it to yourself to check out the Cyclorama album. It has some great tunes, and is great if you don't go into it trying to hear Dennis. Some classics on there for sure! Gowan sounds great on "fields Of The Brave". I really dug some of Tommy's songs on there too. :wink:

by **S2M** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:04 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Joe Vana wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

NOT ONCE have I ever listened to Gowan...or Styx since Dennis left...since I am friends with DDY I figured it wasn't worth it to ever listen to them again....I was WRONG....this is an amazing song preformed amazingly well....

I guess I better give Stxy another look....

JV

Very cool Joe! I'm glad you liked it. This really is an amazing performance, and it's a very powerful song. You really owe it to yourself to check out the Cyclorama album. It has some great tunes, and is great if you don't go into it trying to hear Dennis. Some classics on there for sure! Gowan sounds great on "fields Of The Brave". I really dug some of Tommy's songs on there too.

This isn't even a question. LG is good on original material. I love Cyclorama. I don't like LG on DDY material, sorry....and all the LG ballwashers can suck my ass..... :lol:

by **scarab** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:15 am

why does he always sound like he wants to break out in full yodel?

by **Babyblue** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:33 am

S2M wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Joe Vana wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

NOT ONCE have I ever listened to Gowan...or Styx since Dennis left...since I am friends with DDY I figured it wasn't worth it to ever listen to them again....I was WRONG....this is an amazing song preformed amazingly well....

I guess I better give Stxy another look....

JV

Very cool Joe! I'm glad you liked it. This really is an amazing performance, and it's a very powerful song. You really owe it to yourself to check out the Cyclorama album. It has some great tunes, and is great if you don't go into it trying to hear Dennis. Some classics on there for sure! Gowan sounds great on "fields Of The Brave". I really dug some of Tommy's songs on there too.

This isn't even a question. LG is good on original material. I love Cyclorama. I don't like LG on DDY material, sorry....and all the LG ballwashers can suck my ass.....

I don't think so bud. :lol:

by **Monker** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:51 am

G.I.Jim wrote:To be fair, after my Dennis post, I've got to balance it out with this. Gowan is a great songwriter in his own right, and this is the performance of his lifetime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFjaIlp ... re=related

That was awesome, thanks!

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:52 am

scarab wrote:why does he always sound like he wants to break out in full yodel?

It's his natural vibrato, and can't be helped. His voice works on songs like this, but in my opinion, doesn't sound good at ALL on Dennis's songs.

by **Babyblue** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:55 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
scarab wrote:why does he always sound like he wants to break out in full yodel?

It's his natural vibrato, and can't be helped. His voice works on songs like this, but in my opinion, doesn't sound good at ALL on Dennis's songs.

I happen to like the way he sounds on the DDY songs myself. :wink:

MR

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