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Postby ebake02 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:07 am

What the fuck are you talking about?
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:00 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Those who align themselves with the Tea Party lunatic finge right to any extent are inherently racist and un-American.


I'm not a Tea Party member or even a supporter, for that matter but that's just stupid. You rail against the Republicans for all sorts of things, and rightly so in some cases, but you're just being intellectually bankrupt here. How about putting more than a couple of brain cells together instead of whipping out the trusty and oft-used race card?

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Postby ebake02 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:13 pm

I find it awfully strange that this tea party crap never really gained a foothold until an African-American was elected president.
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Postby S2M » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:16 pm

ebake02 wrote:I find it awfully strange that this tea party crap never really gained a foothold until an African-American was elected president.


It's not crap....maybe the birther stuff is....but the core beliefs are what EVERY american should be behind.
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Postby ebake02 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:23 pm

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ebake02 wrote:I find it awfully strange that this tea party crap never really gained a foothold until an African-American was elected president.


It's not crap....maybe the birther stuff is....but the core beliefs are what EVERY american should be behind.


It is crap. These dumb shits think they're going to walk right into Washington and single handedly change how it does business? They need to lay off what ever crack they've been smoking because the day that happens will be the day Bill Clinton wins a third term.
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Postby S2M » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:26 pm

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ebake02 wrote:I find it awfully strange that this tea party crap never really gained a foothold until an African-American was elected president.


It's not crap....maybe the birther stuff is....but the core beliefs are what EVERY american should be behind.


It is crap. These dumb shits think they're going to walk right into Washington and single handedly change how it does business? They need to lay off what ever crack they've been smoking because the day that happens will be the day Bill Clinton wins a third term.


Correct....and next time bring something stronger than this. I have no idea where your assertion lies. :?
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Postby ebake02 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:32 pm

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ebake02 wrote:I find it awfully strange that this tea party crap never really gained a foothold until an African-American was elected president.


It's not crap....maybe the birther stuff is....but the core beliefs are what EVERY american should be behind.


It is crap. These dumb shits think they're going to walk right into Washington and single handedly change how it does business? They need to lay off what ever crack they've been smoking because the day that happens will be the day Bill Clinton wins a third term.


Correct....and next time bring something stronger than this. I have no idea where your assertion lies. :?


Watch 10 minutes of one of their gatherings and have noticed that neither side really wants to align with them. The democrats want nothing to do with them and most of the moderate republicans have distanced themselves from this movement.
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Postby S2M » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:44 pm

ebake02 wrote:
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ebake02 wrote:
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ebake02 wrote:I find it awfully strange that this tea party crap never really gained a foothold until an African-American was elected president.


It's not crap....maybe the birther stuff is....but the core beliefs are what EVERY american should be behind.


It is crap. These dumb shits think they're going to walk right into Washington and single handedly change how it does business? They need to lay off what ever crack they've been smoking because the day that happens will be the day Bill Clinton wins a third term.


Correct....and next time bring something stronger than this. I have no idea where your assertion lies. :?


Watch 10 minutes of one of their gatherings and have noticed that neither side really wants to align with them. The democrats want nothing to do with them and most of the moderate republicans have distanced themselves from this movement.


That's because the politicians are so OUT OF TOUCH with what the american people want. Each side wants votes. Each side wants to continue the good old boy network in washington. So what you do is bad mouth the Tea Baggers, and discredit them. It makes no difference what their platform is....keep preaching that a party aligned with Tea baggers can't, and won't win an election - and then the american voters won't want to WASTE their votes on a losing proposition....That's how *I* see it. I think they cut their own throats with this birther thing....
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Postby Andrew » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:25 pm

Interesting to hear only Americans babbling in this post.

Here's a reality check from the rest of the world - AMERICA'S POLICIES ARE FUCKING UP EVERYTHING!

I love the USA like noting else, but everyone over there has to quit bitching like little school girls and just DO SOMETHING! You are sending me and thousands others broke.

I liked Obama, and I would have voted for him, but as far as I can see, he's very robotic and hasn't really handled any of the shit that Bush idiot left behind.

I happen to think Trump is one of the most arrogant assholes on the entire planet, but I LOVE that. He says what he means and there is no guessing what he might really think.
I respect his business sense and maybe USA needs a businessman to get them back on track right now.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:36 pm

Trump rocks. I think his business background would do our country good.
He's great at making deals and maybe he could make some deals to help
expedite getting us out of the mess we're in.

Obama still sucks, BTW. I'll be glad when his abortion of a presidency ends.
He won't get reelected.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:13 pm

Trump has filed for bankruptcy four times. He is completely unelectable.

Bottom line: if unemployment is below 7.5%, Obama gets re-elected, end of story. That's how it works.

Romney is very electable - he appeals to the independents, and is essentially a moderate. He's the ONLY shot for the GOP, but he would make a good President. Plus, he's never been bankrupt and doesn't have the temper of a three year old child in timeout.

Obama has done a MUCH better job than Dubbya. Forget you not that the global recession occurred a year before Obama was elected. The world is MUCH better off now. If things keep getting better, Obama winsl if they stagnate, Romney does. If the Republicans somehow nominate Trump (whose political contributions have been primarily to Democrats the past 30 years) or Palin, they are doomed and will and cannot win no matter what.
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Postby S2M » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:16 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Trump has filed for bankruptcy four times. He is completely unelectable.

Bottom line: if unemployment is below 7.5%, Obama gets re-elected, end of story. That's how it works.

Romney is very electable - he appeals to the independents, and is essentially a moderate. He's the ONLY shot for the GOP, but he would make a good President. Plus, he's never been bankrupt and doesn't have the temper of a three year old child in timeout.

Obama has done a MUCH better job than Dubbya. Forget you not that the global recession occurred a year before Obama was elected. The world is MUCH better off now. If things keep getting better, Obama winsl if they stagnate, Romney does. If the Republicans somehow nominate Trump (whose political contributions have been primarily to Democrats the past 30 years) or Palin, they are doomed and will and cannot win no matter what.



What I think you are saying is that the american people SAY they want change, but when faced with an election - they'll revert back to not doing the right thing.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:21 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Trump has filed for bankruptcy four times. He is completely unelectable.

Bottom line: if unemployment is below 7.5%, Obama gets re-elected, end of story. That's how it works.

Romney is very electable - he appeals to the independents, and is essentially a moderate. He's the ONLY shot for the GOP, but he would make a good President. Plus, he's never been bankrupt and doesn't have the temper of a three year old child in timeout.

Obama has done a MUCH better job than Dubbya. Forget you not that the global recession occurred a year before Obama was elected. The world is MUCH better off now. If things keep getting better, Obama winsl if they stagnate, Romney does. If the Republicans somehow nominate Trump (whose political contributions have been primarily to Democrats the past 30 years) or Palin, they are doomed and will and cannot win no matter what.


Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy. Companies go bankrupt all the time and that is why there are LLCs and Corporations, eliminating personal liability.
Love the spouting off about things you know nothing about as though they were fact. Trump is not completely unelectable, as you have falsely posted. :wink: :roll:

While you might not vote for him, your vote certainly does not make him unelectable.

Obama will not get reelected. Dream on. Nobody with a brain is gonna buy this guy twice.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:53 pm

Whatever. Trump has made a habit of abusing the bankruptcy system and using it for his personal gain, while costing thousands of people their fortunes and their jobs. Get over the Trump for President thing already. It will NEVER happen.

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Trump Plaza Hotel bankruptcy – On Nov 2, 1992, Trump's Plaza Hotel was forced to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after being unable to make its debt payments. Under the plan, Trump agreed to give up a 49% stake in this luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders.

Trump Shuttle closure – The Trump Shuttle became no more when it merged with Shuttle Inc, operating as USAir Shuttle in 1992.

Donald Trump personal bankruptcy – By 1994, Trump slashed a large portion of his $900 million personal debt and washed away $3.5 billion in his porfolio's business debt.

Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts' bankruptcy – On November 21, 2004 Trump's company filed for bankruptcy. Trump said the filing was "really just a technical thing" as the best way to implement a restructuring plan.

Donald Trump personal bankruptcy (again) – Once again, Trump filed for personal bankruptcy protection and restructured his debt in 2004.

Taj Mahal bankruptcy – On November 22, 2006 Donald J. Trump’s casino empire filed for bankruptcy protection after months of negotiations with bondholders over restructuring a crushing debt.

GoTrump.com – Donald Trump's online travel search engine was launched in 2006. Just a year later it folded.

Trump 29 Casino – Now known as Spotlight 29 Casino because Donald Trump's ownership/management involvement ended in 2006).

Donald Trump Ocean Resort Baja – This Mexican resort was never built and investor's deposits (up to $500,000.00) have not been returned. Trump claims these buyers are “lucky” because they would have lost more money in a tanking market had the projects been actually built.

Trump Towers Tampa – Trump is being sued right now in Tampa, Florida for taking deposits on a 52-story condo tower that he never built. None of the buyers got their $45,000 deposits back. And in an ironic twist, initial sales of this condo were so successful that all deposits were returned to charge a higher price.

Trump International Hotel and Tower Chicago – Trump built the second tallest building in Chicago… he also defaulted on a $40 million loan. Rather than having to pay the bank loan, Trump demanded the same bank should pay him $3 billion for "undermining the project and damaging his reputation."

Trump Magazine – Trump's private-labeled publication (which was aimed at affluent readers in major US markets) suffered from sagging ad sales. It folded on May 19, 2009. This was Trump's third failed attempt at offering a magazine bearing his name.

Trump International Hotel & Tower New Orleans – If constructed, this Trump Tower would become the tallest building in the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana at 70 stories high. But the project was put on hold in February of 2009.

Trump Entertainment Resort Holdings bankruptcy – On February 17, 2009 casino operator Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection (with a debt ratio of $50 million in assets to his $500 million in debt).

Donald Trump SoHo Hotel Condominium – Donald Trump was sued for fraud over his New York SoHo condo offering in 2010. The lawsuit by 15 plaintiffs alleged that during the first 18 months of marketing, Trump advertised that the building was "30, 40, 50, 60 percent or more sold" when in fact just 16% of the units were sold.

Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico – Instead of a 525-unit luxury vacation home complex with pools and tennis courts, this project is shaping up to be a legal battle with a big hole in the ground. Dozens of angry buyers sued Trump for failing to complete the project. Trump claims he only lent his name to the project (and it was the developers who allowed the project to fail).

Trump International Hotel & Tower Fort Lauderdale – Construction was to be completed by the end of 2009 featuring 298 hotel condominium units. Having defaulted on a $139 million loan, Donald Trump announced in November of 2010 he was no longer affiliated with the project.

Trump International Hotel & Tower Las Vegas – Through the end of February 2010, the 1,282-unit condominium hotel had only closed on 302 units. That equates to a 23.6% vacancy rate. It was forced into renting out the building as apartments.

Trump International Hotel & Tower in Dubai – This 62-story mixed-used building on the Palm Jumeirah’s Golden Mile was first announced in 2005. Construction was never started and the $2.9 billion project had been canceled and replaced with a shopping mall.

When you run the math, that's 19 failures in less than 17 years… that averages one new failed business every 11 months. Even worse, a LOT of people were financially ruined because of this single "successful" business guru.
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Postby Behshad » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:47 pm

steveo777 wrote:Trump rocks. I think his business background would do our country good.
He's great at making deals and maybe he could make some deals to help
expedite getting us out of the mess we're in.

Obama still sucks, BTW. I'll be glad when his abortion of a presidency ends.
He won't get reelected.




The idiot of this village has spoken !
Trump is a showman who fools idiots like you. Yea I know it doesnt take much to fool you , but he's still great at it.
If you think those in Washington think about their own pockets first , Trump will be the master at that. Remember he can cripple this country and drive it down to a "bankruptcy" just like he did his business. He will have ONE thing in mind : PERSONAL GAINS .
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:22 pm

All the whining, excuses, and race card playing antics about the next election are coming out all ready.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... d_now.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _ever.html

Yep, it's gonna be all because he's black. Blacks and a lot of whites are truly out of control with this race card nonsense. The ironic thing is this incessant bullshit is probably what turns a lot of people at least moderately against blacks.

Ok, I've paid attention to politics for 24 hours now and feel ill. Back to music, sports, and other stuff.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:41 pm

This Donald Trump crap is worse than when Ross Perot thought he'd come fix everything too. All he did was divide up votes of dumb republicans mostly, who voted for him. Worked against the Republican party, in the end. The same will happen here. The Republicans won't nominate him, and he'd have to run as an independent. And he'd do nothing more than mess up the election. A majority of Americans would never want him representing this country. It's hard to watch him represent his own businesses! :lol:
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Postby Andrew » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:12 pm

I personally don't think he will run... But someone do something...PLEASE.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:20 pm

Probably right that Trump won't run. I wonder if Ralph Nader will run again, just to divy up the votes, as he has in the past?
Give us some good choices. Obama is not one of them.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:30 pm

Andrew wrote:I personally don't think he will run... But someone do something...PLEASE.


Obama is just going to keep printing money until it's worthless. All of the people that did everything right and have been smart enough to implement the very simple concept of earn, save and spend responsibly will continue to watch the fruits of their labors decrease in value. And all of the people that have failed America will continue to have their votes bought in the form of free money. I think if you don't work you shouldn't vote. More specifically, if you're an able-bodied individual and you're not self-sufficient, fuck you, you don't get to vote. I'm tired of watching inner-city unemployed trashballs that need to be begged to vote (because that pre-determined day every 4 years is so hard to plan around :roll: ) cry about not having a job. I'm just glad that those scumbags don't vote for the party I tend to lean toward. I could never align myself with such failures and embarrassments. Perhaps if you had stayed in high school, not spent every penny on new rims for your '92 Caprice, quit smoking weed and quit buying the latest release by Lil Wayne with your welfare check, you'd have a fucking job. Fuck them and take away their votes.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:57 pm

Saint John wrote:
Andrew wrote:I personally don't think he will run... But someone do something...PLEASE.


Obama is just going to keep printing money until it's worthless. All of the people that did everything right and have been smart enough to implement the very simple concept of earn, save and spend responsibly will continue to watch the fruits of their labors decrease in value. And all of the people that have failed America will continue to have their votes bought in the form of free money. I think if you don't work you shouldn't vote. More specifically, if you're an able-bodied individual and you're not self-sufficient, fuck you, you don't get to vote. I'm tired of watching inner-city unemployed trashballs that need to be begged to vote (because that pre-determined day every 4 years is so hard to plan around :roll: ) cry about not having a job. I'm just glad that those scumbags don't vote for the party I tend to lean toward. I could never align myself with such failures and embarrassments. Perhaps if you had stayed in high school, not spent every penny on new rims for your '92 Caprice, quit smoking weed and quit buying the latest release by Lil Wayne with your welfare check, you'd have a fucking job. Fuck them and take away their votes.


Those are stolen rims. The rest of what you said is true. :wink:
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:28 am

S2M wrote:
ebake02 wrote:
S2M wrote:
ebake02 wrote:
S2M wrote:
ebake02 wrote:I find it awfully strange that this tea party crap never really gained a foothold until an African-American was elected president.


It's not crap....maybe the birther stuff is....but the core beliefs are what EVERY american should be behind.


It is crap. These dumb shits think they're going to walk right into Washington and single handedly change how it does business? They need to lay off what ever crack they've been smoking because the day that happens will be the day Bill Clinton wins a third term.


Correct....and next time bring something stronger than this. I have no idea where your assertion lies. :?


Watch 10 minutes of one of their gatherings and have noticed that neither side really wants to align with them. The democrats want nothing to do with them and most of the moderate republicans have distanced themselves from this movement.


That's because the politicians are so OUT OF TOUCH with what the american people want. Each side wants votes. Each side wants to continue the good old boy network in washington. So what you do is bad mouth the Tea Baggers, and discredit them. It makes no difference what their platform is....keep preaching that a party aligned with Tea baggers can't, and won't win an election - and then the american voters won't want to WASTE their votes on a losing proposition....That's how *I* see it. I think they cut their own throats with this birther thing....



if you are defining the tea party movement as a movement which focuses on Ron Paul type economic libertarianism and reversing the tide of big govermnment growth which puts the US only a few years away from collapse it is admirable movement. (and for the most part the Tea Party has stuck to this economic message. )

The birther movement and all that nonsense acually didnt come from the tea party movment. It actually came from conservative movements- such as the religous right / social conservative movement (it was heavily pushed by sites like world net daily which spends most of its time on with all sorts of garbage about social issues.
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Postby SF-Dano » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:02 am

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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:34 am

Myth. Clinton never asked Obama for his BC. Pure hogwash.
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Postby KenTheDude » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:34 am

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Andrew wrote:I personally don't think he will run... But someone do something...PLEASE.


Obama is just going to keep printing money until it's worthless. All of the people that did everything right and have been smart enough to implement the very simple concept of earn, save and spend responsibly will continue to watch the fruits of their labors decrease in value. And all of the people that have failed America will continue to have their votes bought in the form of free money. I think if you don't work you shouldn't vote. More specifically, if you're an able-bodied individual and you're not self-sufficient, fuck you, you don't get to vote. I'm tired of watching inner-city unemployed trashballs that need to be begged to vote (because that pre-determined day every 4 years is so hard to plan around :roll: ) cry about not having a job. I'm just glad that those scumbags don't vote for the party I tend to lean toward. I could never align myself with such failures and embarrassments. Perhaps if you had stayed in high school, not spent every penny on new rims for your '92 Caprice, quit smoking weed and quit buying the latest release by Lil Wayne with your welfare check, you'd have a fucking job. Fuck them and take away their votes.


Those are stolen rims. The rest of what you said is true. :wink:


Even if it's bought with welfare money, I consider that stealing from the taxpayers.
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Postby KenTheDude » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:39 am

I read an article the other day stating that China's economy will pass up the U.S. economy in 4 years. So China's economy will then be the world's dominant economy. I sure hope that means China will then be the ones to send aid to all of these foreign countries instead of us doing it. You'll never see that happen, though.
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Postby Jubilee » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:23 am

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Obama is just going to keep printing money until it's worthless. All of the people that did everything right and have been smart enough to implement the very simple concept of earn, save and spend responsibly will continue to watch the fruits of their labors decrease in value. And all of the people that have failed America will continue to have their votes bought in the form of free money. I think if you don't work you shouldn't vote. More specifically, if you're an able-bodied individual and you're not self-sufficient, fuck you, you don't get to vote. I'm tired of watching inner-city unemployed trashballs that need to be begged to vote (because that pre-determined day every 4 years is so hard to plan around :roll: ) cry about not having a job. I'm just glad that those scumbags don't vote for the party I tend to lean toward. I could never align myself with such failures and embarrassments. Perhaps if you had stayed in high school, not spent every penny on new rims for your '92 Caprice, quit smoking weed and quit buying the latest release by Lil Wayne with your welfare check, you'd have a fucking job. Fuck them and take away their votes.


:? :roll:
So voting should be a privilege reserved only for the landed gentry, Danillow? :roll: My guess is most of us aren't truely self-sufficient if we depend on someone else for employment.

One thing I do agree with you on is that this printing money nonsense had GOT to stop. The rest of this is utter douchebaggery. :roll:
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Postby S2M » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:28 am

I've said it before....it does no harm to print money to spark the economy, IF, and only IF, you are going to remove that money on the back-end...when it makes it's way back to washington.....use it as a temporary catalyst.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:52 am

The economy has improved significantly since QE. Not defending it, just sayin'.
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Postby Jubilee » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:05 am

S2M wrote:I've said it before....it does no harm to print money to spark the economy, IF, and only IF, you are going to remove that money on the back-end...when it makes it's way back to washington.....use it as a temporary catalyst.


Right. Exept that doesn't seem to be what's happening. There seems to be a hole in our bucket. The money never gets taken out on the back end because it's being taken out of the economy as fast as we print it.
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