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Postby S2M » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:14 am

Jubilee wrote:
S2M wrote:I've said it before....it does no harm to print money to spark the economy, IF, and only IF, you are going to remove that money on the back-end...when it makes it's way back to washington.....use it as a temporary catalyst.


Right. Exept that doesn't seem to be what's happening. There seems to be a hole in our bucket. The money never gets taken out on the back end because it's being taken out of the economy as fast as we print it.


The money seems to be printed, and given directly to the banks. And they are just sitting on it. Waiting for god knows what.....there is going to be a point, and I think Slucero has this in his sig - when the debt it greater than the revenue that this country produces....that's why *I* think a resolution needs to be written in congress that wipes out all debt, and we start over from scratch....a one-time deal. There is NO WAY this country survives with this much debt, both personal, and private.....
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Postby ebake02 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:16 am

Printing more money is never a good idea. Printing more money, no matter how bad the economy is, devalues the dollar. Which is precisely why the dollar isn't worth shit right now.
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Postby S2M » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:18 am

ebake02 wrote:Printing more money is never a good idea. Printing more money, no matter how bad the economy is, devalues the dollar. Which is precisely why the dollar isn't worth shit right now.


It can be a good idea....they just don't do it the right way. They never take the money out of circulation. That's their error.
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Postby ebake02 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:19 am

S2M wrote:
ebake02 wrote:Printing more money is never a good idea. Printing more money, no matter how bad the economy is, devalues the dollar. Which is precisely why the dollar isn't worth shit right now.


It can be a good idea....they just don't do it the right way. They never take the money out of circulation. That's their error.


Has the government ever done anything the right way?
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Postby S2M » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:29 am

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ebake02 wrote:Printing more money is never a good idea. Printing more money, no matter how bad the economy is, devalues the dollar. Which is precisely why the dollar isn't worth shit right now.


It can be a good idea....they just don't do it the right way. They never take the money out of circulation. That's their error.


Has the government ever done anything the right way?


No...and that's the $64,000 question.....Obviously you can't let the inmates run the asylum, but for the most part, the american people know what's best for the country. The government seems to be set up with the mindset that we don't know anything about anything, and politicians are better at determining what's best. We are treated like uneducated children that never get to sit at the grown-up table.

I'm at wit's end trying to figure out why washington never learns from, not only past mistakes, but from repeated past mistakes....this country is ALL ABOUT war. All about fleecing the american taxpayer, and all about figuring out the next scam to run on us....talking out both sides of it's mouth, while kissing babies and smiling perty for the cameras....I don't trust a single soul, and I firmly believe we are fucked as a nation. I honestly think that the two-party system is a sham, meant to divide the country....a united nation can't implode. A divided one is fucked. I also believe the two parties aren't as polarized as they make it out to be....I think they are on the same page with their ultimate goal of running us, lying, fleecing, and otherwise scheming to attain some sinister, ulterior motive.....if you treat, and run this country as a business - you can't go wrong. this message is lost on them
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:32 am

S2M wrote:I've said it before....it does no harm to print money to spark the economy, IF, and only IF, you are going to remove that money on the back-end...when it makes it's way back to washington.....use it as a temporary catalyst.


They only way to pay back all this funny money is to tax the shit out of us. That's the cold reality nobody wants to face or implement.
Maybe if we jerked away all the aid to illegals and welfare recipients who are capable of working, we could avoid some of the pain,
but there IS going to be pain.
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Postby Jubilee » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:32 am

S2M wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
S2M wrote:I've said it before....it does no harm to print money to spark the economy, IF, and only IF, you are going to remove that money on the back-end...when it makes it's way back to washington.....use it as a temporary catalyst.


Right. Exept that doesn't seem to be what's happening. There seems to be a hole in our bucket. The money never gets taken out on the back end because it's being taken out of the economy as fast as we print it.


The money seems to be printed, and given directly to the banks. And they are just sitting on it. Waiting for god knows what.....there is going to be a point, and I think Slucero has this in his sig - when the debt it greater than the revenue that this country produces....that's why *I* think a resolution needs to be written in congress that wipes out all debt, and we start over from scratch....a one-time deal. There is NO WAY this country survives with this much debt, both personal, and private.....


Banks are one issue, and then there's China. A great deal of money is being shipped off shore to China for goods, and that's money that's never coming back.

I don't know if I like this "ONE TIME ONLY" debt forgiveness. I know we gotta do somthin', but that sets a bad precedence. What, somebody just pushes the "Do Over" button, and all the debt is wiped out, but we all get to keep all of our stuff that we accumulated with the debt? What would be the impetus for anyone to ever lend anything to anyone ever again knowing that at some point "Do Over Day" is coming? Sure, we can say it's a one time only deal, but once you do it once....
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Postby S2M » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:33 am

steveo777 wrote:
S2M wrote:I've said it before....it does no harm to print money to spark the economy, IF, and only IF, you are going to remove that money on the back-end...when it makes it's way back to washington.....use it as a temporary catalyst.


They only way to pay back all this funny money is to tax the shit out of us. That's the cold reality nobody wants to face or implement.
Maybe if we jerked away all the aid to illegals and welfare recipients who are capable of working, we could avoid some of the pain,
but there IS going to be pain.


Fair Tax/Consumption Tax

and I have no idea why this is lost on them either.... :?
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:33 am

S2M wrote:
ebake02 wrote:Printing more money is never a good idea. Printing more money, no matter how bad the economy is, devalues the dollar. Which is precisely why the dollar isn't worth shit right now.


It can be a good idea....they just don't do it the right way. They never take the money out of circulation. That's their error.



Printing money isnt a good idea regardless of whether its taken out of the system (and it never is because the extra money ) for the simple reason is that it distorts the business cycle. In a free market economy the business cycle always moves back to a state of equilbirium. In a recession all the bad debt runs of the economy and it can grow back stronger. Printing money only distorts this naural clearing mechanism. Thats why govt spending and paying for it by printing money never works to cure a recession (examples 1932 and 2009 ) but have only let to a second dip - the second dip needed to correct the govt deb crisis created by printing money.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:15 am

steveo777 wrote:They only way to pay back all this funny money is to tax the shit out of us. That's the cold reality nobody wants to face or implement.
Maybe if we jerked away all the aid to illegals and welfare recipients who are capable of working, we could avoid some of the pain,
but there IS going to be pain.


There was a middle class that thrived back in the '90's, and the marginal rate on the rich was only 3% higher. Government is necessary and cannot function with such a draconian cut to revenues. Get a grip.
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Postby artist4perry » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:06 am

SusieP wrote:How can anyone take Donald Trump with THAT hair seriously?????



:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


I think it is an alien landing site. You think he would do something about that ugly hair by now. :shock: :shock: I wonder how much shellacking it took to keep it place? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

As far as Obama's BC.........I am not a fan of the man but by now who truly cares? He did enough to prove it to me a long time ago. Let's talk about the price of oil, or the economy or something pertaining to real issues. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Here is the BC Mr Trump, you silly sack of shit! ;)

Postby JohnH » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:06 am

Behshad wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110427/ap_on_el_ge/us_obama_birth_certificate



The whole thing is stupid and Obama should have done this from day one. Although not legal proof, the newspaper clipping from Hawaii should have practically sealed the deal. Newspapers back then generally would not have reported on some birth 8000 miles away. The paper covered local residents and local births.
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Postby slucero » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:45 pm

LMAO.. this just gets better and better... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbasVmeb ... r_embedded

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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:30 am

What a joke. These people need to get their heads examined, just like those idiotic 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
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Postby scarygirl » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:41 am

If Trump ever becomes president GOD help us all. A vote for him is a vote for the power of eminent domain. Bottom line he wanted a little old lady's land, she didn't want to move, and he used the government to try and force her out. GRANNY WON! Trump is nothing more than a power hungry wannabe granny thief. Any conservative who supports smaller government, but votes for Trump is more of the same.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen
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Postby scarygirl » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:44 am

Andrew wrote:Interesting to hear only Americans babbling in this post.

Here's a reality check from the rest of the world - AMERICA'S POLICIES ARE FUCKING UP EVERYTHING!

I love the USA like noting else, but everyone over there has to quit bitching like little school girls and just DO SOMETHING! You are sending me and thousands others broke.

I liked Obama, and I would have voted for him, but as far as I can see, he's very robotic and hasn't really handled any of the shit that Bush idiot left behind.

I happen to think Trump is one of the most arrogant assholes on the entire planet, but I LOVE that. He says what he means and there is no guessing what he might really think.
I respect his business sense and maybe USA needs a businessman to get them back on track right now.


He is a businessman who tried to steal an old lady's home.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen
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Postby Saint John » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:27 am

Jubilee wrote:
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Obama is just going to keep printing money until it's worthless. All of the people that did everything right and have been smart enough to implement the very simple concept of earn, save and spend responsibly will continue to watch the fruits of their labors decrease in value. And all of the people that have failed America will continue to have their votes bought in the form of free money. I think if you don't work you shouldn't vote. More specifically, if you're an able-bodied individual and you're not self-sufficient, fuck you, you don't get to vote. I'm tired of watching inner-city unemployed trashballs that need to be begged to vote (because that pre-determined day every 4 years is so hard to plan around :roll: ) cry about not having a job. I'm just glad that those scumbags don't vote for the party I tend to lean toward. I could never align myself with such failures and embarrassments. Perhaps if you had stayed in high school, not spent every penny on new rims for your '92 Caprice, quit smoking weed and quit buying the latest release by Lil Wayne with your welfare check, you'd have a fucking job. Fuck them and take away their votes.


:? :roll:
So voting should be a privilege reserved only for the landed gentry, Danillow? :roll: My guess is most of us aren't truely self-sufficient if we depend on someone else for employment.

One thing I do agree with you on is that this printing money nonsense had GOT to stop. The rest of this is utter douchebaggery. :roll:


People are having their votes bought by the left. Social programs now amount to nothing more than appeasing what has become a fairly large demographic of voters, many of whom don't work and/or have no desire to seek employment. Listen, social programs used to be a crutch during hard times, but mostly a helping hand when starting out. Today, social programs, namely welfare and other handouts, are an inherited lifestyle that serves to keep people down, dumb and dependent. I call it "votes for life" and that's exactly what it fucking is. These programs don't help anyone in masses. They cripple them, advertently make them dependent and render the vast majority of them helpless. So, until you're a tax-paying, functioning part of America (or were), fuck them and their right to vote. I'll vote for them. I help pay for every-fucking-thing for them anyway. It's the least they could give back. These dirt bags have to be begged to vote every 4 years anyway. My policy will help alleviate that terrible burden. :roll:
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