Bin Laden Dead!!!!!!

[Uno_up]

if its true, thank the united states military. notice i did not say thank god, or thank the easter bunny. thank the people that killed that piece of shit. thank you. one down, a shitload to go.

[Ftloperry]

This was great news to wake up to this morning.
A huge sense of relief that the Al Qaeda mastermind and main financier has been beaten.


But, then after the initial thoughts of 'thank goodness for that, what took them so long' - I began to feel uneasy.

What worries me is that he leaves 26 children behind and a fortune of approximately 250 million.

He may be dead, but his cause isn't. Nor are his supporters. And his money to pay for it all is still there.

And although I understand the rejoicing at US Intelligence and the Marines success - I can't help thinking of when the Scottish government released the Lockerbie bomber and the Libyans partied in the streets and gloated at us all. We all felt sickened, and angry and vengeful.
Their celebratory actions made us want to take revenge.

- all this partying in the streets over Bin Laden is bound to inflame our enemies further and they hate us all anyway.
So I think that maybe the celebrating at his death should be a bit more low key?



I'm more worried about reprisals than I am pleased he is dead.

I agree with you. While there is relief that he is dead there is also a bit of worry. We don't know what his followers will do and the world as a whole has to be on extreme alert.

[Uno_up]

all partisan politics aside for a second, good riddance. and all retaliations should be met with a gigantic, not proportional, response. if al fagga kills a tourist in Iraq, we drop an atomic crap on that city. fuck this 'you kill with no rules, we waste our time trying to be specific with justice." new world, new rules. your peeps kill our peeps, or our allies peeps, wake up on fire. i'm done. fucking kooks. it is not a liberal (which i am) or conservative debate. your mission is to kill us, so here is a big rocket exploding in your anus, allah is a fictional character. invented by hairy retarded men who had erectile dysfunction at age 15. allah can suck a big cock. and after you die you get shit. eternity of wart ridden penis in your unlubed ass. no virgins. no family pride. no martyrdom. nada. i believe in tolerance. if your bullshit creed says otherwise i wish a pox on your stupid house. enough. i just am at the point where it's like, you want to kill us, we don't want to kill all of you, are you sure you want to kill all of us? okey-dokey here is a gigantic atomic shit on your head. then the rest of us can argue about abortion, gay marriage, and air drop all of our human waste on the middle east. they are way more dedicated than we are. ok. they are way more ruthless. ok. boom.

[Saint John]

I think this was handled well. You kill him, you conform it's him, you document it (pictures coming soon) and you dispose of him immediately. I'm guessing that he was buried at sea so no memorial could be erected to commemorate him. This gives his followers no tangible place to visit. The administration seems to have handled this flawlessly.

As far as where he was found, we've known this for years. Virtually every expert I've heard on Fox or CNN for the last 5-7 years insisted he was being harbored in Pakistan, as he has a cult-like following there and is very much revered.

The following was written quite a few years ago by Mansoor Ijaz, a Fox News contributor. Turns out that is was highly accurate:

"Pakistan must now end the charade and get bin Laden... With so much of the retaliation infrastructure gone or unsustainable, bin Laden's martyrdom does not pose nearly the threat it did a year ago," Ijaz told the paper.

According to Ijaz, bin Laden is hiding in the "northern tribal areas", part of the long belt of seven deeply conservative tribal agencies which stretch down the length of the mountain ranges that mark Pakistan's winding border with Afghanistan.

The paper said that Ijaz, who recently visited Pakistan, believed that bin Laden was protected by an elaborate security cordon of three concentric circles, in which he is guarded first by a ring of tribesmen, whose duty is to report any approach by Pakistani troops or US Special Forces.

Inside them is a tighter ring, around 19 km in diameter, made up of tribal elders who would warn if the outer ring were breached.

At the centre of the circles is bin Laden himself, protected by one or two of his closest relatives and advisers.

Bin Laden has reportedly agreed with the elders that he will use no electronic communications but handwritten notes, and will move only at night and between specified places within a limited radius.

[Jana]

Still not enough to get him re-elected. The ruse ain't gonna work. We could have gotten him years ago. Don't fall for it, folks....

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Sometimes when I think you can't surprise me by your negative posts, you do.

[Deb]

I think this was handled well. You kill him, you confirm it's him, you document it (pictures coming soon) and you dispose of him immediately. I'm guessing that he was buried at sea so no memorial could be erected to commemorate him. This gives his followers no tangible place to visit.

For once I agree with you. As long as the proof comes out soon (pics/dna)........

[Michigan Girl]

A great day!!

[bluejeangirl76]

But, then after the initial thoughts of 'thank goodness for that, what took them so long' - I began to feel uneasy.

What worries me is that he leaves 26 children behind and a fortune of approximately 250 million.

He may be dead, but his cause isn't. Nor are his supporters. And his money to pay for it all is still there...

So I think that maybe the celebrating at his death should be a bit more low key?

I'm more worried about reprisals than I am pleased he is dead.

Thank you. This is what I've been saying since last night. I'm going to go ahead and be the unpopular opinion here. While we're all making big worldwide announcements about justice being done and celebrating in the streets and beating our chests about how "we got him", and this morning, showing our videos from the room where he was killed and blood all over the floor, the rest of the world, namely, um... Al Queda cells all over the world, for starters... is seeing all of this celebratory fanfare. Do we have the right to do so? I'd say yes, we're justified in feeling relief over it... but that doesn't mean parading this way is such a smart idea.

Granted, the guy needed to go. I'm in full agreement on that and I'm not exactly losing sleep over it. But the news keeps mentioning "likely anti-american retaliation" as an afterthought, and that should be a much bigger concern than it's being made out to be. I kept hearing people on the news this morning talking about justice being done and finally it's over... it's not over. Not by a long shot. He was one guy and there are a lot more just like him out there who won't hesitate.

Hell, I heard at one point this morning that US suspects that there are already Al Queda in place in the US for this specific purpose, to strike if anything ever happened to OBL. The more I think about that the more annoyed I get with the way we're so openly reacting (and enjoying) to this.

Still, I have to say a job well done on the military's part, with specific regard to the Navy Seals. Can you imaging being given that order... "We're pretty sure he's in there... go on in..." Not that it was that simple. But my god, to know you're being sent in to a face to face situation of that magnitude...

[Jana]

I think this was handled well. You kill him, you confirm it's him, you document it (pictures coming soon) and you dispose of him immediately. I'm guessing that he was buried at sea so no memorial could be erected to commemorate him. This gives his followers no tangible place to visit.

For once I agree with you. As long as the proof comes out soon (pics/dna)........

I agree. A great common sense post by SJ.

[conversationpc]

I think this was handled well. You kill him, you conform it's him, you document it (pictures coming soon) and you dispose of him immediately. I'm guessing that he was buried at sea so no memorial could be erected to commemorate him. This gives his followers no tangible place to visit. The administration seems to have handled this flawlessly.

I heard this morning that he was buried at sea because no other country in the area would accept his body.

[Michigan Girl]

But, then after the initial thoughts of 'thank goodness for that, what took them so long' - I began to feel uneasy.

What worries me is that he leaves 26 children behind and a fortune of approximately 250 million.

He may be dead, but his cause isn't. Nor are his supporters. And his money to pay for it all is still there...

So I think that maybe the celebrating at his death should be a bit more low key?

I'm more worried about reprisals than I am pleased he is dead.

Thank you. This is what I've been saying since last night. I'm going to go ahead and be the unpopular opinion here. While we're all making big worldwide announcements about justice being done and celebrating in the streets and beating our chests about how "we got him", and this morning, showing our videos from the room where he was killed and blood all over the floor, the rest of the world, namely, um... Al Queda cells all over the world, for starters... is seeing all of this celebratory fanfare. Do we have the right to do so? I'd say yes, we're justified in feeling relief over it... but that doesn't mean parading this way is such a smart idea.

Granted, the guy needed to go. I'm in full agreement on that and I'm not exactly losing sleep over it. But the news keeps mentioning "likely anti-american retaliation" as an afterthought, and that should be a much bigger concern than it's being made out to be. I kept hearing people on the news this morning talking about justice being done and finally it's over... it's not over. Not by a long shot. He was one guy and there are a lot more just like him out there who won't hesitate.

Hell, I heard at one point this morning that US suspects that there are already Al Queda in place in the US for this specific purpose, to strike if anything ever happened to OBL. The more I think about that the more annoyed I get with the way we're so openly reacting (and enjoying) to this.

Still, I have to say a job well done on the military's part, with specific regard to the Navy Seals. Can you imaging being given that order... "We're pretty sure he's in there... go on in..." Not that it was that simple. But my god, to know you're being sent in to a face to face situation of that magnitude...

Not at all...it's a natural, scary reality!!

[Ftloperry]

But, then after the initial thoughts of 'thank goodness for that, what took them so long' - I began to feel uneasy.

What worries me is that he leaves 26 children behind and a fortune of approximately 250 million.

He may be dead, but his cause isn't. Nor are his supporters. And his money to pay for it all is still there...

So I think that maybe the celebrating at his death should be a bit more low key?

I'm more worried about reprisals than I am pleased he is dead.

Thank you. This is what I've been saying since last night. I'm going to go ahead and be the unpopular opinion here. While we're all making big worldwide announcements about justice being done and celebrating in the streets and beating our chests about how "we got him", and this morning, showing our videos from the room where he was killed and blood all over the floor, the rest of the world, namely, um... Al Queda cells all over the world, for starters... is seeing all of this celebratory fanfare. Do we have the right to do so? I'd say yes, we're justified in feeling relief over it... but that doesn't mean parading this way is such a smart idea.

Granted, the guy needed to go. I'm in full agreement on that and I'm not exactly losing sleep over it. But the news keeps mentioning "likely anti-american retaliation" as an afterthought, and that should be a much bigger concern than it's being made out to be. I kept hearing people on the news this morning talking about justice being done and finally it's over... it's not over. Not by a long shot. He was one guy and there are a lot more just like him out there who won't hesitate.

Hell, I heard at one point this morning that US suspects that there are already Al Queda in place in the US for this specific purpose, to strike if anything ever happened to OBL. The more I think about that the more annoyed I get with the way we're so openly reacting (and enjoying) to this.

Still, I have to say a job well done on the military's part, with specific regard to the Navy Seals. Can you imaging being given that order... "We're pretty sure he's in there... go on in..." Not that it was that simple. But my god, to know you're being sent in to a face to face situation of that magnitude...

BJG thank you! I totally agree with you. Those people with Al Queda are prepared to die no matter what and now with there infamous leader gone things could get worse before they get better.

[Jana]

But, then after the initial thoughts of 'thank goodness for that, what took them so long' - I began to feel uneasy.

What worries me is that he leaves 26 children behind and a fortune of approximately 250 million.

He may be dead, but his cause isn't. Nor are his supporters. And his money to pay for it all is still there...

So I think that maybe the celebrating at his death should be a bit more low key?

I'm more worried about reprisals than I am pleased he is dead.

Thank you. This is what I've been saying since last night. I'm going to go ahead and be the unpopular opinion here. While we're all making big worldwide announcements about justice being done and celebrating in the streets and beating our chests about how "we got him", and this morning, showing our videos from the room where he was killed and blood all over the floor, the rest of the world, namely, um... Al Queda cells all over the world, for starters... is seeing all of this celebratory fanfare. Do we have the right to do so? I'd say yes, we're justified in feeling relief over it... but that doesn't mean parading this way is such a smart idea.

Granted, the guy needed to go. I'm in full agreement on that and I'm not exactly losing sleep over it. But the news keeps mentioning "likely anti-american retaliation" as an afterthought, and that should be a much bigger concern than it's being made out to be. I kept hearing people on the news this morning talking about justice being done and finally it's over... it's not over. Not by a long shot. He was one guy and there are a lot more just like him out there who won't hesitate.

Hell, I heard at one point this morning that US suspects that there are already Al Queda in place in the US for this specific purpose, to strike if anything ever happened to OBL. The more I think about that the more annoyed I get with the way we're so openly reacting (and enjoying) to this.

Still, I have to say a job well done on the military's part, with specific regard to the Navy Seals. Can you imaging being given that order... "We're pretty sure he's in there... go on in..." Not that it was that simple. But my god, to know you're being sent in to a face to face situation of that magnitude...

Good post. Everyone I've talked to, it was the first thing we thought of. And I'm sure it's of the utmost concern for the Administration and the military. That's why the way it was handled as far as his body was probably really discussed in length.

[bluejeangirl76]

I think this was handled well. You kill him, you conform it's him, you document it (pictures coming soon) and you dispose of him immediately. I'm guessing that he was buried at sea so no memorial could be erected to commemorate him. This gives his followers no tangible place to visit. The administration seems to have handled this flawlessly.

I heard this morning that he was buried at sea because no other country in the area would accept his body.

I heard that it had something to do with some muslim custom? I know that 24 hours is also the custom, so I expected it would be fast, but the burial at sea part I wasn't aware of...

But if it's true that the none of the nearby countries wanted to be responsible for it, I can't say I blame them. Who would want that association.

[bluejeangirl76]

Good post. Everyone I've talked to, it was the first thing we thought of. And I'm sure it's of the utmost concern for the Administration and the military. That's why the way it was handled as far as his body was probably really discussed in length.

More than at length even. The original operation was to bomb the compound and the US (Obama) scrapped that plan and went for the more dangerous option of face to face so they could be sure that not only got him, but could make sure it was him. I heard this morning that they even built a replica of the place and ran drills on going in for the raid.

[Rick]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on! Fuck them to tears, frontwards, backwards and sideways. We do not kowtow to some nutbag extremist faction. The Taliban wants some spring offensive? Bomb those sand grooming bastards back to the stone ages.

It truly sickens me to see any of our military guys and gals get harmed or killed, but we can not roll over for these people. We must be always on the offensive and in their faces.

If our celebrations anger them, then so be it. Fuck them.

[Behshad]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on! Fuck them to tears, frontwards, backwards and sideways. We do not kowtow to some nutbag extremist faction. The Taliban wants some spring offensive? Bomb those sand grooming bastards back to the stone ages.

It truly sickens me to see any of our military guys and gals get harmed or killed, but we can not roll over for these people. We must be always on the offensive and in their faces.

If our celebrations anger them, then so be it. Fuck them.

The WORLD is celebrating today

The problem is though, they dont give a fuck if we kill 1 , 10 or 1000000 of them ! so they will attack again, kill thousands of our people, only for us to take another 10 years and kill ONE of theirs and cheer. How does THAT makes us look ?

[conversationpc]

Good post. Everyone I've talked to, it was the first thing we thought of. And I'm sure it's of the utmost concern for the Administration and the military. That's why the way it was handled as far as his body was probably really discussed in length.

More than at length even. The original operation was to bomb the compound and the US (Obama) scrapped that plan and went for the more dangerous option of face to face so they could be sure that not only got him, but could make sure it was him. I heard this morning that they even built a replica of the place and ran drills on going in for the raid.

I've heard that we did not even sustain any injuries. If that's true, that is amazing and a huge testament to the excellence of the Navy Seals.

[S2M]

Still not enough to get him re-elected. The ruse ain't gonna work. We could have gotten him years ago. Don't fall for it, folks....

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Sometimes when I think you can't surprise me by your negative posts, you do.

That's not negative, Jana. That's the truth. Listen, it's getting to the point where a criminal just has to breath at a crime scene and we can nail his ass....pretty soon it'll be like Minority Report, and just have to think of commiting a crime to get busted - and the most powerful country in the world couldn't find this dude's slimey ass for 9+ years? C'mon.

Having him loose during the Bush administration got him re-elected.....so that was the illiterate's reason for dragging ass with this thing....

I have no idea what Obama's reason was for taking so long....his Occidental/Harvard/Columbia education must have finally allowed himself to dissect his poll numbers and realize he had to do something.....

I'm glad he's dead, too....but I'm not doing cartwheels about it. There's a reason behind everything....

[Melissa]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on! Fuck them to tears, frontwards, backwards and sideways. We do not kowtow to some nutbag extremist faction. The Taliban wants some spring offensive? Bomb those sand grooming bastards back to the stone ages.

It truly sickens me to see any of our military guys and gals get harmed or killed, but we can not roll over for these people. We must be always on the offensive and in their faces.

If our celebrations anger them, then so be it. Fuck them.

+1 Rick. The retaliations would be over his death, whether people here and all over the world celebrate or not. I remember the celebrations being shown from his people on 9/11, over the THOUSANDS they killed.

THANK YOU to the U.S. Navy Seals! Bad-assery at it's finest.

[Jana]

Excerpt from MSNBC:

The officials also said they expect attacks from bin Laden's loyalists who may step up the timing of previously planned operations.

"In the wake of this operation, there may be a heightened threat to the U.S. homeland. The U.S. is taking every possible precaution." The State Department has sent advisories to embassies worldwide and has issued a travel ban for Pakistan.

"Although al-Qaida will not fragment immediately," an official said, "the death of bin Laden puts al-Qaida on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse."

[Deb]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on! Fuck them to tears, frontwards, backwards and sideways. We do not kowtow to some nutbag extremist faction. The Taliban wants some spring offensive? Bomb those sand grooming bastards back to the stone ages.

It truly sickens me to see any of our military guys and gals get harmed or killed, but we can not roll over for these people. We must be always on the offensive and in their faces.

If our celebrations anger them, then so be it. Fuck them.

+1 Rick. The retaliations would be over his death, whether people here and all over the world celebrate or not. I remember the celebrations being shown from his people on 9/11, over the THOUSANDS they killed.

THANK YOU to the U.S. Navy Seals! Bad-assery at it's finest.

Have to agree. I'm not celebrating, but have always been a believer of an eye for an eye. Just like with child rapists, etc.......I think big prison bubba should knock on their backdoors. But a shot to the head is a much more civilized way to take him out compared to how some of those innocent people parished in the towers (Canadians amongst them).

[Rick]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on! Fuck them to tears, frontwards, backwards and sideways. We do not kowtow to some nutbag extremist faction. The Taliban wants some spring offensive? Bomb those sand grooming bastards back to the stone ages.

It truly sickens me to see any of our military guys and gals get harmed or killed, but we can not roll over for these people. We must be always on the offensive and in their faces.

If our celebrations anger them, then so be it. Fuck them.

The WORLD is celebrating today

The problem is though, they dont give a fuck if we kill 1 , 10 or 1000000 of them ! so they will attack again, kill thousands of our people, only for us to take another 10 years and kill ONE of theirs and cheer. How does THAT makes us look ?

We can't do a thing about what they do. All we can do is fight back or hide our heads in the sand, and you know we won't do that. It doesn't matter what we do, they'll find an excuse to attack us. So we need to be ever vigilant and in their faces. If our celebrations make them mad, then so be it. Pissed off people get hasty and make mistakes.

[Melissa]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on! Fuck them to tears, frontwards, backwards and sideways. We do not kowtow to some nutbag extremist faction. The Taliban wants some spring offensive? Bomb those sand grooming bastards back to the stone ages.

It truly sickens me to see any of our military guys and gals get harmed or killed, but we can not roll over for these people. We must be always on the offensive and in their faces.

If our celebrations anger them, then so be it. Fuck them.

+1 Rick. The retaliations would be over his death, whether people here and all over the world celebrate or not. I remember the celebrations being shown from his people on 9/11, over the THOUSANDS they killed.

THANK YOU to the U.S. Navy Seals! Bad-assery at it's finest.

Have to agree. I'm not celebrating, but have always been a believer of an eye for an eye. Just like with child rapists, etc.......I think big prison bubba should knock on their backdoors. But a shot to the head is a much more civilized way to take him out compared to how some of those innocent people parished in the towers (Canadians amongst them).

Yep, when it comes to murder and everything as horrible and evil as that, I've always believed in the eye for an eye too. And yeah his death and now supposed burial are WAY civilized (and not deserved) compared to what his people did on 9/11. Those victims' families didn't even have body PARTS to bury, let alone a body. This supposed burial of his nauseates me.

[Melissa]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on! Fuck them to tears, frontwards, backwards and sideways. We do not kowtow to some nutbag extremist faction. The Taliban wants some spring offensive? Bomb those sand grooming bastards back to the stone ages.

It truly sickens me to see any of our military guys and gals get harmed or killed, but we can not roll over for these people. We must be always on the offensive and in their faces.

If our celebrations anger them, then so be it. Fuck them.

The WORLD is celebrating today

The problem is though, they dont give a fuck if we kill 1 , 10 or 1000000 of them ! so they will attack again, kill thousands of our people, only for us to take another 10 years and kill ONE of theirs and cheer. How does THAT makes us look ?

We can't do a thing about what they do. All we can do is fight back or hide our heads in the sand, and you know we won't do that. It doesn't matter what we do, they'll find an excuse to attack us. So we need to be ever vigilant and in their faces. If our celebrations make them mad, then so be it. Pissed off people get hasty and make mistakes.

So true.

[bluejeangirl76]

I say we celebrate it loud and proud. They want to try and attack us? Bring it on!

Well, they've already done that. Celebrating, or whatever we want to call it, over taking out Bin Laden is one thing. Yes, it's a good thing - a very good thing. We should be relieved that someone so evil is no longer a (direct) threat, but the threat is by no means gone. And yes we should be extremely proud of our military. I know I am. What those men did and the courage it took to do it has all of my respect.

I just don't understand all the "Yay it's over, it's finally over" parading that I have seen all over tv. There's nothing to celebrate in that respect because, no, it's not over. And it's a lot scarier now, in my mind. Before it was "if they attack again..." now it's basically "when they attack again..." I just pray that the US is a little more on top of things from here out than it was in August of 2001. They'll come back for us, we'll go back at them, they'll get back at us, we'll go back... and it solves what? Hating people is certainly time consuming.

[StevePerryHair]

I for one am not celebrating anything. The world is still as fucked up as ever. This changes none of that. All it's doing is bringing out more in the worst of people and human nature. All I see is sadness and evil all around. Can't help it. It's how I'm built I guess. I know I'm a minority.

[S2M]

I for one am not celebrating anything. The world is still as fucked up as ever. This changes none of that. All it's doing is bringing out more in the worst of people and human nature. All I see is sadness and evil all around. Can't help it. It's how I'm built I guess. I know I'm a minority.

I'm evil and sad....

[StevePerryHair]

I for one am not celebrating anything. The world is still as fucked up as ever. This changes none of that. All it's doing is bringing out more in the worst of people and human nature. All I see is sadness and evil all around. Can't help it. It's how I'm built I guess. I know I'm a minority.

I'm evil and sad....

No, you're grumpy and buttheaded... there's a difference

[Rocker Chic]

This further proves that Pakistan can't be trusted! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42852700/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/from/toolbar

Pakistan have repeatedly led everyone to believe that he was hiding in a cave somewhere in the mountains near their border, when in fact, a huge, custom-built, heavily protected compound was erected around 2005 [EDIT: Now, I'm reading that someone is reported to have been living there for 10 years, so it's unclear about when it was built or whether the high walls were always there or if they came later], less than 40 minutes from their capital city, and 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy. Pakistan were also reported to have stated that Pakistan cooperated with us on this mission, when in fact the USA acted alone.

We'd better keep a VERY close eye on this country... They are NOT what they pretend to be.