Was Azoff supportive?

[pf1965]

Do you think the reason Eclipse was not promoted better was because Azoff didn't agree with the new direction? Would it have received a much better push if they churned out the usual style of music?

[steveo777]

I'd think he could have put the brakes on the damn thing if he didn't like it. I think he might
have gotten deluded into thinking that if Revelation could debut at #5, then Eclipse would
do it with ease. Wrong! Problem with this album is that it just needs to be listened to a
few times for people to get it, then you either love it or not. I'm not sure listening to samples
cause people to buy this record. Also, Azoff is older now and I'm not sure what his personal
music taste is.

[Rockindeano]

Do you think the reason Eclipse was not promoted better was because Azoff didn't agree with the new direction? Would it have received a much better push if they churned out the usual style of music?

No.

Look, Azoff owns their asses. If they were to break free from his chains, where would they go? he controls the majority of arenas/theaters. W/O him, they are playing places Mr Big does...bars and fairs, err carnivals. The other big name Mgrs only have one client. Bruce Allen and Jon Landau come to mind. They can swing and exchange blows with Irv, but would they be willing to take on Journey? Are they worth it? Probably not. Azoff did nothing, because he didn't have to, period.

[Don]

I think the band and management bought into ther own hype and thought the popularity of DSB, on top of the spectacular sales of Revelation guaranteed them a debut that if not bigger, would at least equal Revelation's numbers.

What they didn't figure out was it wasn't about Journey anymore. DSB became it's own entity, especially after Glee grabbed it.
Once Journey went away for the year, the song became a free agent for who ever could get the most mileage out of it causing the tune to finally get ran into the ground. By that time Journey had become a footnote on their own creation and Glee had assumed all identity with the song as it's primary artist.

[steveo777]

I think the band and management bought into ther own hype and thought the popularity of DSB, on top of the spectacular sales of Revelation guaranteed them a debut that if not bigger, would at least equal Revelation's numbers.

What they didn't figure out was it wasn't about Journey anymore. DSB became it's own entity, especially after Glee grabbed it.
Once Journey went away for the year, the song became a free agent for who ever could get the most mileage out of it causing the tune to finally get ran into the ground. By that time Journey had become a footnote on their own creation and Glee had assumed all identity with the song as it's primary artist.

I'd rather look at Lea Michele than Ross, that's for fucking sure!

[pf1965]

I think the band and management bought into ther own hype and thought the popularity of DSB, on top of the spectacular sales of Revelation guaranteed them a debut that if not bigger, would at least equal Revelation's numbers.

What they didn't figure out was it wasn't about Journey anymore. DSB became it's own entity, especially after Glee grabbed it.
Once Journey went away for the year, the song became a free agent for who ever could get the most mileage out of it causing the tune to finally get ran into the ground. By that time Journey had become a footnote on their own creation and Glee had assumed all identity with the song as it's primary artist.

Yes it seems they lose their identity quite often!