Casey Anthony verdicts are in

[AR]

She got off on the major charges. Mostly just guilty of providing false information.

[Enigma869]

I'm quite surprised by this. It just shows you that you never quite know how these things are going to shake out. On another note...Is this Ed? Holy shit. I had no idea that Drew finally let you back into play.

[S2M]

She'll be in another club next week, trolling for cock.....whoring on her back. First Jed and Katherine Harris fuck over Gore, and now some FLorida jury sets a murderer free....what's going on down in the Sunshine State?

[AR]

I'm quite surprised by this. It just shows you that you never quite know how these things are going to shake out. On another note...Is this Ed? Holy shit. I had no idea that Drew finally let you back into play.

The guys on the Opie and Anthony show said from the beginning she was getting off on the most serious charges.

Hi John, yeah it's me. Andrew gave me a "Get out of Jail Free" card as long as I behave.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Well watching the scenes on TV Casey was celebrating like she's won Olympic gold. Thats just bizzarre, if you were unfairly on trial for the death of your daughter and were acquitted would you be dancing around happy. No you'd still be upset because your daughter is dead. your life would still be over

[Enigma869]

Hi John, yeah it's me. Andrew gave me a "Get out of Jail Free" card as long as I behave.

Welcome back dude and kudos to Drew for lifting his ban. He had you exiled from this place for WAY too long!

[lights1961]

watched on the computer at the office...CASEY was REALLY lucky... so now who did it, maybe somehow the grandparents are involved???? just asking the question... makes for interesting discussion for years to come.... the prosecution must be as stunned as the defense team... the way Casey appeared before court was in session today, I am sure she thought she was toast... amazed...

R

[Enigma869]

so now who did it, maybe somehow the grandparents are involved????

Never lose sight of the fact that a verdict of "not guilty" and innocent are two entirely different things. Not guilty doesn't mean that she didn't commit the crime. It means that the State of Florida wasn't able to convince the jury that she did commit the crime.

[StevePerryHair]

People need to remember when it comes to a jury, they have rules in how they can deliberate a case. No matter what they think inside. I never judge a jury. Only the lawyers, and did they do their jobs. Obviously the defense lawyers did a better job, for the jury to be forced to choose an innocent verdict. Also, the jury was sent out of the room many times, through evidence we got to hear, and they didn't. And the defense obviously did give them enough doubt that even if they BELIEVED she's guilty, they couldn't do it. I am surprised though. Thought shed get the child abuse charge for sure, with how her body was found, and her admitting to at least an accidental death.

I had a friend on a rape jury once. They HAD to find him innocent, based on poor evidence, beyond a doubt, knowing he was guilty, inside. When he left the court room smiling at them, it made her phisically ill. Jurors do not have an easy job. Sometimes they have to let the guilty free.

[StevePerryHair]

so now who did it, maybe somehow the grandparents are involved????

Never lose sight of the fact that a verdict of "not guilty" and innocent are two entirely different things. Not guilty doesn't mean that she didn't commit the crime. It means that the State of Florida wasn't able to convince the jury that she did commit the crime.

True...I should have used "not guilty" also, technically.

[bluejeangirl76]

I had a friend on a rape jury once. They HAD to find him innocent, based on poor evidence, beyond a doubt, knowing he was guilty, inside. When he left the court room smiling at them, it made her phisically ill. Jurors do not have an easy job. Sometimes they have to let the guilty free.

So very true. I sat on a pretty intense federal case quite some time ago that lasted 5 weeks. Everything is based on reasonable doubt, and if what they present isn't solid enough, you have no choice. The defendant in this particular case had around 20 counts of various things against him, and even though (we felt) he was additionally guilty of both murder and attempted murder, he was charged with neither because of poor investigating at the time of the death (and later 2 more attempted deaths) and lack of evidence toward either. They were allowed to present certain evidence pertaining to both because the evidence was related to some of the other charges (fraud and arson among them), but they were limited in what they could present and we were heavily instructed when it came time for deliberation. I'm telling you, I never want to go through that again.

The hardest part were the motions for certain testimony to be stricken, because you cannot use it once the judge allows a strike, but at that point, you've already heard it. We were even sent out at one point because one of the witnesses had a meltdown on the stand and the defense didn't want us seeing that so they had us removed - but again, you can't just un-see it. It was a whole weird deal.

[Red13JoePa]

We see this, and will continue to see this more and more.

You get jury pools who are exposed to shows like CSI who think every case should include the absolute orgies of evidence produced by the brilliant TV forensic experts with computers, blacklites, tweezers and microscopes otherwise you must aquit.

You also get news leaks to the juries (don't tell me they don't) of every 2-bit troll scumbag ambulance chasing "defense expert" going on TV saying "They're not proving it, though." in the face of mounting evidence (the more that's there, the more crackpot theories they'll put out to poke holes. Much like the OJ jury who thought WELCOMED the irrefutable evidence against him as a way to go "ha ha!!! We're STILL gonna aquit just to prove a point!").

Bottom line, a grieving mom doesn't ho around and party, get tatoos that say "Beautiful life" and make the "accidental" death of her little girl "look like a homicide."

[SteveForever]

No matter how screwed up the jury system....and technicalities be damned....

the little girl was only 2 and this whore partied while her dead daughter lay in the trunk of her car~
disgusting...

she'll wind up back in jail for doing something else....just like OJ...

[S2M]

People can't be serious in thinking that juries only take actual facts and evidence into consideration when deliberating. She got lucky. I'd really LOVE to debrief this jury. A court case is like a game. The judge is the ref. Refs screw up all the time. This ref screwed up. The jury fucked up. But don't kid yourself into thinking juries only consider facts....

[Rick]

I was just as stunned here as I was when they pronounced OJ "not guilty". Just fucking flabbergasted.

Welcome back, Ed. It's really good to see you on here again.

[YoungJRNY]

so now who did it

Casey Anthony

maybe somehow the grandparents are involved????

No. Did you see them leave the court-room? Disgusted even in their own daughters ruling of Not Guilty.

Here's to hoping some RAGED maniac gets to Casey and assassinates her. I'd like that.

[mrsromek]

I'm with YoungJRNY on this one. What a joke. She'll be in the pen, what, a year when it's all said and done? Big deal. My tax $ will pay for her vacation there, too, as it's been paying for her to live life knowing she killer her beautiful daughter. Then, once she's out, she'll be clubbing it up, maybe consider doing Playboy or maybe some reality show.

Yesterday while driving I saw about 8-10 cars pulled over on the highway for speeding. Let's see...it's not OK to go over the speed limit, but it's OK to kill someone. Nice.

[SteveForever]

and...the jurors don't wanna talk, wonder why? under Jedi mind tricks obviously!

[Red13JoePa]

People can't be serious in thinking that juries only take actual facts and evidence into consideration when deliberating. She got lucky. I'd really LOVE to debrief this jury. A court case is like a game. The judge is the ref. Refs screw up all the time. This ref screwed up. The jury fucked up. But don't kid yourself into thinking juries only consider facts....

Fantastic post.

And also not all doubt is "reasonable." Unless you talk to a defense attorney.

[Rick]

I'm with YoungJRNY on this one. What a joke. She'll be in the pen, what, a year when it's all said and done? Big deal. My tax $ will pay for her vacation there, too, as it's been paying for her to live life knowing she killer her beautiful daughter. Then, once she's out, she'll be clubbing it up, maybe consider doing Playboy or maybe some reality show.

Yesterday while driving I saw about 8-10 cars pulled over on the highway for speeding. Let's see...it's not OK to go over the speed limit, but it's OK to kill someone. Nice.

I'm not sure she will spend any time in the pen. I think she gets credited "time already served" towards whatever sentencing they hand down.

[StevePerryHair]

People can't be serious in thinking that juries only take actual facts and evidence into consideration when deliberating. She got lucky. I'd really LOVE to debrief this jury. A court case is like a game. The judge is the ref. Refs screw up all the time. This ref screwed up. The jury fucked up. But don't kid yourself into thinking juries only consider facts....

If they DON'T only follow the facts...THEY aren't doing their jobs. That is a worse jury, that bases it on "feelings". If anyone thinks the OJ case and this are the only guilty getting off, they're kidding themselves. This happens everyday, with different cases. This was just highly publicized. And many innocents go to jail too. Not a perfect system. But it's all we have. And based on what you just said, say that when you get called to jury duty, and they won't pick you.

[StevePerryHair]

I'm with YoungJRNY on this one. What a joke. She'll be in the pen, what, a year when it's all said and done? Big deal. My tax $ will pay for her vacation there, too, as it's been paying for her to live life knowing she killer her beautiful daughter. Then, once she's out, she'll be clubbing it up, maybe consider doing Playboy or maybe some reality show.

Yesterday while driving I saw about 8-10 cars pulled over on the highway for speeding. Let's see...it's not OK to go over the speed limit, but it's OK to kill someone. Nice.

No one wanted her in jail more than the cops. Don't use that comparison. I have several cops on my FB just as disgusted with the verdict, thinking why do they even bother being in that career, just for people getting away with their crimes. Cops write tickets, and cops like to see murderers in jail.

[S2M]

People can't be serious in thinking that juries only take actual facts and evidence into consideration when deliberating. She got lucky. I'd really LOVE to debrief this jury. A court case is like a game. The judge is the ref. Refs screw up all the time. This ref screwed up. The jury fucked up. But don't kid yourself into thinking juries only consider facts....

If they DON'T only follow the facts...THEY aren't doing their jobs. That is a worse jury, that bases it on "feelings". If anyone thinks the OJ case and this are the only guilty getting off, they're kidding themselves. This happens everyday, with different cases. This was just highly publicized. And many innocents go to jail too. Not a perfect system. But it's all we have. And based on what you just said, say that when you get called to jury duty, and they won't pick you.

I don't vote, therefore I don't get called in for jury duty. I'd love to sit on a jury.

[Peartree12249]

Well watching the scenes on TV Casey was celebrating like she's won Olympic gold. Thats just bizzarre, if you were unfairly on trial for the death of your daughter and were acquitted would you be dancing around happy. No you'd still be upset because your daughter is dead. your life would still be over

Well she was facing the death penalty that might make you celebrate just a little...

We all know she's guilty this is just another OJ, Robert Blake trial. Apparently the jury wanted a smoking gun and when the prosecution couldn't produce it they let her go. Sometimes the bad guys get away with it. What really makes me sick is that since she got acquitted, she can now profit from her child's murder by writing a book and movies of the week etc. Well, OJ finally got what's coming to him & is sitting in prison, maybe Casey will screw up down the line and they'll throw her ass in prison where she belongs.

[Rick]

People can't be serious in thinking that juries only take actual facts and evidence into consideration when deliberating. She got lucky. I'd really LOVE to debrief this jury. A court case is like a game. The judge is the ref. Refs screw up all the time. This ref screwed up. The jury fucked up. But don't kid yourself into thinking juries only consider facts....

If they DON'T only follow the facts...THEY aren't doing their jobs. That is a worse jury, that bases it on "feelings". If anyone thinks the OJ case and this are the only guilty getting off, they're kidding themselves. This happens everyday, with different cases. This was just highly publicized. And many innocents go to jail too. Not a perfect system. But it's all we have. And based on what you just said, say that when you get called to jury duty, and they won't pick you.

I don't vote, therefore I don't get called in for jury duty. I'd love to sit on a jury.

Then vote! Do your duty. Be a civic leader and shit like that.

[StevePerryHair]

People can't be serious in thinking that juries only take actual facts and evidence into consideration when deliberating. She got lucky. I'd really LOVE to debrief this jury. A court case is like a game. The judge is the ref. Refs screw up all the time. This ref screwed up. The jury fucked up. But don't kid yourself into thinking juries only consider facts....

If they DON'T only follow the facts...THEY aren't doing their jobs. That is a worse jury, that bases it on "feelings". If anyone thinks the OJ case and this are the only guilty getting off, they're kidding themselves. This happens everyday, with different cases. This was just highly publicized. And many innocents go to jail too. Not a perfect system. But it's all we have. And based on what you just said, say that when you get called to jury duty, and they won't pick you.

I don't vote, therefore I don't get called in for jury duty. I'd love to sit on a jury.

In FLORIDA you only need a driver's license. It's not by voter's registration. i can't believe states still go by voter's. Way to keep people from registering!!

[S2M]

Law 101....a defendant doesn't take the stand, they're quilty.

The 5th amendment to theconstitution gives every criminal defendant the right not to testify, and jurors will be told that they cannot assume anything negative if the defendant decides to keep quiet. Of course, some jurors do make assumptions -- and they cast their votes accordingly.

[StevePerryHair]

Law 101....a defendant doesn't take the stand, they're quilty.

The 5th amendment to theconstitution gives every criminal defendant the right not to testify, and jurors will be told that they cannot assume anything negative if the defendant decides to keep quiet. Of course, some jurors do make assumptions -- and they cast their votes accordingly.

Sean, I do not want to think that jurors MAKE ASSUMPTIONS. They are not doing their civic duty if they do. What you are suggesting, why even have a court system. You don't go by feelings. They are told exactly what they can and cant' do. And there isn't just one juror, so that the people who don't understand, a majority will follow things the way a jury is told to.

This was my husband's, a cop's, 2 cents from facebook and I agree, though I doubt any of you care. :

"My two cents
We still have the best, most fair, legal system in the world. Do most of us believe Casey is guilty? Sure we do. I think she's guilty as hell, and she'll burn there some day. Based on the rules of our society, we can't put people in jail because we think they deserve it..."

[bluejeangirl76]

and...the jurors don't wanna talk, wonder why? under Jedi mind tricks obviously!

I wouldn't expect them to talk - obviously their verdict is not approved of by most, and they have to think about their own safety. I wouldn't be talking either.

Frankly I'm always surprised when any juror does talk after long case like that, regardless of the verdict they handed down. When I did it, I came out of the elevator bank into the lobby of the Dirksen Federal Building (same place the Blagojevich drama went down last week) and there were media everywhere (it wasn't the biggest case, but around here it was definitely getting news). In this case though, we did give the verdict that "the people" wanted. And man, they descended on us like nothing I've experienced before... and when they tried to get me for comment, I just wanted no part of it. I and the others did what we did and that was it, and I didn't care to have my name and face all over the news for it. Only one of us 12 gave them a comment and later that night he was on the news. After such a long, tiring deal, you just don't want that in your face the minute you come out of there.

[S2M]

Law 101....a defendant doesn't take the stand, they're quilty.

The 5th amendment to theconstitution gives every criminal defendant the right not to testify, and jurors will be told that they cannot assume anything negative if the defendant decides to keep quiet. Of course, some jurors do make assumptions -- and they cast their votes accordingly.

Sean, I do not want to think that jurors MAKE ASSUMPTIONS. They are not doing their civic duty if they do. What you are suggesting, why even have a court system. You don't go by feelings. They are told exactly what they can and cant' do. And there isn't just one juror, so that the people who don't understand, a majority will follow things the way a jury is told to.

This was my husband's, a cop's, 2 cents from facebook and I agree, though I doubt any of you care. :

"My two cents
We still have the best, most fair, legal system in the world. Do most of us believe Casey is guilty? Sure we do. I think she's guilty as hell, and she'll burn there some day. Based on the rules of our society, we can't put people in jail because we think they deserve it..."

And I don't want to think that people do bad things to children - but they do. If Casey was innocent she should have taken the stand and defended herself. She's guilty, so she didn't. I've seen people go free when the prosecution had a signed, taped confession....video of said person committing the crime, and TONS of forensic evidence....all because some individual didn't dot a fucking *I* on form '234'...the law has long since stop protecting the innocent. The law is now protecting the guilty.