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Postby Don » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:52 am

I'm sure it's a catch-22 for the band. While they would probably love to do a VH1 part two to commemorate their success since Arnel's inclusion into the group, they can't just gloss over the decade prior as if it had never existed.
Unfortunately, Nomota has done just that at a lot of their media appearances letting the myth proliferate that Arnel's membership with Journey is a linear continuation of the band after Perry's tenure had concluded.
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Postby Gideon » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:08 am

I'm not sure any of these guys are or ever were bright in any realm other than music. :lol:
'Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. “I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Steve Perry (Feb 2012).'
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Postby belar » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:16 am

Gideon wrote:I'm not sure any of these guys are or ever were bright in any realm other than music. :lol:


That pretty much sums it up.
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Postby Deb » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:20 am

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It's a bad move, but for me sounds like an attempt to fit the band's timeline with the media's. Most of the press didn't do coverage or didn't care about the band when Augeri and JSS were on board...they jumped from 1998 to 2008.


I agree. I think VH1 needs to do another Behind The Music show for Journey. Could you imagine how entertaining that would be if Augeri and JSS were legally able to tell their side of the story? Wow! :shock:


It would be awesome!!


Nice idea, but no way would this ever happen. I am sure there are some things that Augeri wishes people knew, but with all that transpired around his departure, I doubt he even wants to shed a lot of light on that, regardless to rationale or circumstances. While I am sure there are still some hurt feelings, from his comments and meeting him a couple times post-Journey, Steve always talks with respect toward the band and is very gracious about everything. Jeff on the other hand might be a different story because of what all happened there. The bottom line is part 2 to this BTM doesn't make anyone look particularly good. At least from a band perspective, the first one at showed the band in a good state, moving on with Augeri, and continuing to play music.


LOL, true that. I'm sure it irks them enough having their dirty laundry aired here, let alone on public tv. :lol: But it sure would make for one interesting BTM! Let's see.......who could they approach for comments?? SA, JSS, Deano, SP, Lora, Cyndy, etc. Directors cut indeed! :lol: :shock:
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Postby Gideon » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:21 am

belar wrote:
Gideon wrote:I'm not sure any of these guys are or ever were bright in any realm other than music. :lol:


That pretty much sums it up.


Herbie won me over years ago as far as persuading me that he was the guiding intellect behind the band's success.
Neal might be a technical virtuoso, Jon might be an immensely talented musician, Perry might once have been one of rock's finest singers, and Ross might be a bassist, but the idea of these guys having ever trudged it out on their own without Herbie is truly terrifying. :lol:
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Postby Deb » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:30 am

Gideon wrote:
belar wrote:
Gideon wrote:I'm not sure any of these guys are or ever were bright in any realm other than music. :lol:


That pretty much sums it up.


Herbie won me over years ago as far as persuading me that he was the guiding intellect behind the band's success.
Neal might be a technical virtuoso, Jon might be an immensely talented musician, Perry might once have been one of rock's finest singers, and Ross might be a bassist, but the idea of these guys having ever trudged it out on their own without Herbie is truly terrifying. :lol:


Billy Sheehan sure has great things to say about him to this day too......

Ryan: In our past conversations I've never asked you about Herbie Herbert who I know was the bands first manager and is of course famous for managing Santana and Journey. How did you hook up with him initially, was he managing Eric at the time?

Billy: He was involved with Eric, not officially managing him, but he was kind of taking care of him. I went up and had a meeting with Eric and Herbie and proposed the band. I told them about Paul Gilbert and that I had a drummer named Pat. Herbie liked the idea and said he'd be happy to manage it, so that's how it started. Herbie has my eternal respect and gratitude for what he did for Mr. Big. The success of the band is for the most part due to Herbie Herbert. He was one of the founding fathers in the music business in many ways and iconic in so many ways. If no one knew about managers they knew about Herbie. I have such a great respect for him and like I said I'm eternally grateful for what he did for Mr. Big.


Say what ya will about HH, he knew a great singer when he heard one, I gotta appreciate the fact he introduced 2 of my all-time favorite vocalists!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:53 am

I'll give him that too, Deb...he knows talent
all the way around....musically... :wink:
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Postby Archetype » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:15 am

Steve Augeri band dream set list. Weekend warrior like Dennis DeYoung to preserve his voice

Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)
Chain Of Love
Stone In Love
Higher Place
Riverside
Signs Of Life
Only The Young
Send Her My Love
Home Again
Eternal Light
Kiss Me Softly
Lights
Who's Crying Now?
Place In Your Heart
I'll Be Alright Without You
Let It Go
Faithfully
Any Way You Want It
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Don't Stop Believing
Faith In The Heartland
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Postby george_g » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:50 pm

Archetype wrote:Steve Augeri band dream set list. Weekend warrior like Dennis DeYoung to preserve his voice

Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)
Chain Of Love
Stone In Love
Higher Place
Riverside
Signs Of Life
Only The Young
Send Her My Love
Home Again
Eternal Light
Kiss Me Softly
Lights
Who's Crying Now?
Place In Your Heart
I'll Be Alright Without You
Let It Go
Faithfully
Any Way You Want It
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Don't Stop Believing
Faith In The Heartland



Sounds great!
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Postby Duncan » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:12 am

Gideon wrote:
belar wrote:
Gideon wrote:I'm not sure any of these guys are or ever were bright in any realm other than music. :lol:


That pretty much sums it up.


Herbie won me over years ago as far as persuading me that he was the guiding intellect behind the band's success.
Neal might be a technical virtuoso, Jon might be an immensely talented musician, Perry might once have been one of rock's finest singers, and Ross might be a bassist, but the idea of these guys having ever trudged it out on their own without Herbie is truly terrifying. :lol:


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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:17 am

Duncan wrote:
Gideon wrote:
belar wrote:
Gideon wrote:I'm not sure any of these guys are or ever were bright in any realm other than music. :lol:


That pretty much sums it up.


Herbie won me over years ago as far as persuading me that he was the guiding intellect behind the band's success.
Neal might be a technical virtuoso, Jon might be an immensely talented musician, Perry might once have been one of rock's finest singers, and Ross might be a bassist, but the idea of these guys having ever trudged it out on their own without Herbie is truly terrifying. :lol:


:lol:

:lol: :lol: Brilliant Gideon!!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:21 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Duncan wrote:
Gideon wrote:
belar wrote:
Gideon wrote:I'm not sure any of these guys are or ever were bright in any realm other than music. :lol:


That pretty much sums it up.


Herbie won me over years ago as far as persuading me that he was the guiding intellect behind the band's success.
Neal might be a technical virtuoso, Jon might be an immensely talented musician, Perry might once have been one of rock's finest singers, and Ross might be a bassist, but the idea of these guys having ever trudged it out on their own without Herbie is truly terrifying. :lol:


:lol:

:lol: :lol: Brilliant Gideon!!! :lol: :lol:


I think the Jury's still out and what Ross might be. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny shit, Gideon!
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Postby Gideon » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:17 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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