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Postby jestor92 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:25 am

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jestor92 wrote:I'd like to see Arnel learn how to not over sing and write some decent songs.


Arnel's contributions are both very strong.



She's a mystery is a b type version of Patiently, It would be embarrasing to think this to be a very strong contribution. :lol:


Oh, but it is, for many of us. Not embarrassed at all. I love the song! :D

The best part of She's a Mystery is when they stop the shitty lyrics and Schon brings a monsterous riff and Arnel let's loose vocally (The best performance I've heard from him). The rest of the song blows ass.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:27 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Bring back Jack Blades.


What he said. Blades' songwriting give them some much-needed balls.
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:35 am

Seven Wishes wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Bring back Jack Blades.


What he said. Blades' songwriting give them some much-needed balls.

Jack Blades should keep all his kick-ass song writing ideas funneling into more great Night Ranger records. I'm looking forward to the next one. Let Journey go elsewhere for a great songwriter. It's Neil's band, he's got the reigns. If he's not up to the job? Screw him!
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Postby Idiosyncrasy » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:39 am

I honestly don't think they need any help in the songwriting department whatsoever... but if they did, I know Jim Peterik expressed an interest in writing with Jonathan Cain at one point. Plus, take a listen to "What Kind of Fool" from Pride of Lions' The Destiny Stone - very Frontiers era Journey (Send Her My Love vibe going on there).
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Postby Arkansas » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:03 am

I'd like to see JC make it big in Nashville as a writer/producer.
I still think that 'After All These Years' & 'Turn Down the World Tonight' could be big cross-over hits.
Maybe he could also boost his career (& Journey), by doing Trump's 'Celebrity Apprentice'. :?:



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Postby Behshad » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:24 am

To answer the topic question:


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Postby S2M » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:10 am

Behshad wrote:To answer the topic question:


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You're a day late and a dollar short. Stop thieving my material.... :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:27 am

S2M wrote:
Behshad wrote:To answer the topic question:


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You're a day late and a dollar short. Stop thieving my material.... :lol:


Your material? :roll: So anyone here suggesting something thats already been discussed, its "thieving material" ? :roll: :roll:
Besides the reason I missed you material is because I usually ignore your posts , DOPE :shock:
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Postby S2M » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:34 am

Behshad wrote:
S2M wrote:
Behshad wrote:To answer the topic question:


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You're a day late and a dollar short. Stop thieving my material.... :lol:


Your material? :roll: So anyone here suggesting something thats already been discussed, its "thieving material" ? :roll: :roll:
Besides the reason I missed you material is because I usually ignore your posts , DOPE :shock:



WOW....did Neal crawl up your ass again to get better acoustics? Come to think of it, I did notice his tone on Eclipse had a bit of an echoey characteristic to it....that explains it. Douche.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:42 am

S2M wrote:
Behshad wrote:
S2M wrote:
Behshad wrote:To answer the topic question:


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You're a day late and a dollar short. Stop thieving my material.... :lol:


Your material? :roll: So anyone here suggesting something thats already been discussed, its "thieving material" ? :roll: :roll:
Besides the reason I missed you material is because I usually ignore your posts , DOPE :shock:



WOW....did Neal crawl up your ass again to get better acoustics? Come to think of it, I did notice his tone on Eclipse had a bit of an echoey characteristic to it....that explains it. Douche.


Such a smooth comeback :roll:
And calling me douche is basically YOU stealing my material, as you are the crowned DOPE (Douche On Purpose Everyday) ;) No go try to find a fuckin cheat so you can get 100% on that shitty game youve been playing nonstop for two weeks instead of working! :D :twisted:
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:54 am

I like this thread. :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:02 am

Saint John wrote:I like this thread. :lol:


I wonder why, trouble! :lol: :lol:

Man sucks that you moved away, as Im planning a trip to ChiTown in October...
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:08 am

Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:I like this thread. :lol:


I wonder why, trouble! :lol: :lol:

Man sucks that you moved away, as Im planning a trip to ChiTown in October...


My mom still lives there, so I have free room and board whenever I want. When are you going?
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Postby Behshad » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:13 am

Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:I like this thread. :lol:


I wonder why, trouble! :lol: :lol:

Man sucks that you moved away, as Im planning a trip to ChiTown in October...


My mom still lives there, so I have free room and board whenever I want. When are you going?


Oct 21st-23rd. Going for the Yngwie show Friday night, so if you can make it bring your woman too.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:18 am

Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:I like this thread. :lol:


I wonder why, trouble! :lol: :lol:

Man sucks that you moved away, as Im planning a trip to ChiTown in October...


My mom still lives there, so I have free room and board whenever I want. When are you going?


Oct 21st-23rd. Going for the Yngwie show Friday night, so if you can make it bring your woman too.


I'll work on it. :)
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Postby Behshad » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:24 am

Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:I like this thread. :lol:


I wonder why, trouble! :lol: :lol:

Man sucks that you moved away, as Im planning a trip to ChiTown in October...


My mom still lives there, so I have free room and board whenever I want. When are you going?


Oct 21st-23rd. Going for the Yngwie show Friday night, so if you can make it bring your woman too.


I'll work on it. :)


Perfect! Hopefully we can get that faggot Matt to go with us and anyone else who wants to go 8)
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Postby RSParker » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:16 pm

Gideon wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote::lol: ...Virgil's pic of that dude spaz clapping with that face is classic :lol: :D .


You've never watched Dr. Strangelove?



That clip is from Citizen Kane. Just a fyi.
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Postby Gideon » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:31 pm

RSParker wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote::lol: ...Virgil's pic of that dude spaz clapping with that face is classic :lol: :D .


You've never watched Dr. Strangelove?



That clip is from Citizen Kane. Just a fyi.


Oh damn lol, you're right. My bad! :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Postby Monker » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:27 pm

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On that sort of note, I'd wish they'd get rid of their current manager and get Herbie back. I imagine that would help. :twisted:

Live Nation owns the majority, if not all of the venues that Journey plays in. The band doesn't want to be on Azoff's bad side.


There's actually a solution to that. John Baruck is Journey's manager, just under Azoff's umbrella. If Azoff would hire Herbie, Herbie could then be Journey's manager and Azoff would still get the band in his sheds. They just need someone that cares about promotion, advertising, the fans and the fan experience. Herbie (Lora and Cyndy, too) did.


Herbie will never step out of retirement to manage a band again. let alone work *for* Azoff :wink:


And, the fact that Neal, Jonathan, and Ross essentially allowed Perry to fire him, Gregg, and Chalfant, well, I just doubt he would care enough about Journey to get involved again...in fact, he would probably laugh at the idea and say it was the funniest joke he ever heard.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:18 pm

Idiosyncrasy wrote:I honestly don't think they need any help in the songwriting department whatsoever...


How so? Without Perry, (or some other third contributor like Blades) they are lacking big hooky memorably choruses. Once in a while they still hit AOR paydirt, but something's missing. Does anything on Eclipse comes close to Blades co-penned songs like "Remember Me", "Higher Place", "Never Too Late", or "I Got a Reason"? Maybe a few tracks, (see "Someone", "Ritual" and 'Chain of Love"), but overall, I'd say the answer is a resounding big fat NO.
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Postby Pelata » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:10 am

Frontiers65 wrote:A live album.


I can see this happening...but in reality they've already done 2 live DVD's with Arnel...so maybe not?
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Postby Gideon » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:18 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Idiosyncrasy wrote:I honestly don't think they need any help in the songwriting department whatsoever...


How so? Without Perry, (or some other third contributor like Blades) they are lacking big hooky memorably choruses. Once in a while they still hit AOR paydirt, but something's missing. Does anything on Eclipse comes close to Blades co-penned songs like "Remember Me", "Higher Place", "Never Too Late", or "I Got a Reason"? Maybe a few tracks, (see "Someone", "Ritual" and 'Chain of Love"), but overall, I'd say the answer is a resounding big fat NO.


I'd throw Resonate in there.
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Postby lights1961 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:47 am

where the band goes from here... keep on playing... but next year make it an eve with journey... as you did in 2002...
no tour packages...more intimate settings... in future... would also love to see an unplugged show done... or maybe something with a symphony like Kansas has done in the past or what STYX did in Cleveland not too long ago..make it a one night event... would love to hear the classics arranged in this format...

and cant wait until Schon's solo stuff comes out... him and smitty together again... will be awesome to hear... and to add... get Rolie again to work on some solo stuff with Schon... would be cool too...




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Postby Tito » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:33 am

Give the keys back to Cain.
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Postby Gideon » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:30 pm

Tito wrote:Give the keys back to Cain.


I'm pretty sure Ross wasn't the one tickling the ivories on Eclipse. :? :lol:
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Postby majik » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:50 pm

Ditch Arnel, I've tried to like his vocals but they do squat for me. Bring in Kip Winger to help compose and arrange produce and sing lead vocals. 8)
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Postby Gideon » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:59 pm

majik wrote:Ditch Arnel, I've tried to like his vocals but they do squat for me. Bring in Kip Winger to help compose and arrange produce and sing lead vocals. 8)


^^ This cannot be explained, only experienced. Why bother with text or words? 8)
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Postby portland » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:00 pm

Gideon wrote:
majik wrote:Ditch Arnel, I've tried to like his vocals but they do squat for me. Bring in Kip Winger to help compose and arrange produce and sing lead vocals. 8)


^^ This cannot be explained, only experienced. Why bother with text or words? 8)




I think Kip has done fine...no need to complicate his life! :lol:
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Postby majik » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:08 pm

Gideon wrote:
majik wrote:Ditch Arnel, I've tried to like his vocals but they do squat for me. Bring in Kip Winger to help compose and arrange produce and sing lead vocals. 8)


^^ This cannot be explained, only experienced. Why bother with text or words? 8)



And what a fucking experience that would be!!!! very content to listen to that in silence. :lol:
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Postby Pelata » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:26 pm

Maybe ditch Kevin Shirley? I wonder how Journey would sound with, say, John Shanks or Dann Huff at the helm?
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