Religion & Morality

[parfait]

So let me get this straight....'god' lets your liver fail....then sends a doctor to 'fix' it.....is 'god' part of Obama's job-stimulus package?

Sugar if our bodies never deteriorated we would never die. You are not designed to live forever. God does not attack your liver. Your born with the genetics your born with, and a great deal we do to hurt ourselves.


Obama is Satan you know that right?

Have you read this? Kind of interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4003063.stm

Right.......it will never happen. How will we pay for the baby boomers if this happens!

It will most likely happen, maybe not in our lifetime though. Science is awesome.

[Rick]

So let me get this straight....'god' lets your liver fail....then sends a doctor to 'fix' it.....is 'god' part of Obama's job-stimulus package?

Sugar if our bodies never deteriorated we would never die. You are not designed to live forever. God does not attack your liver. Your born with the genetics your born with, and a great deal we do to hurt ourselves.


Obama is Satan you know that right?

Have you read this? Kind of interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4003063.stm

Right.......it will never happen. How will we pay for the baby boomers if this happens!

It will most likely happen, maybe not in our lifetime though. Science is awesome.

This dude says the first person to live to 1000 is probably 60 at the writing of the article. I'm thinking, only the very wealthy will be so privileged.

[Duncan]

...and his name is Steve Perry. This is why he is taking so long to release new music. Time is on his side.

[conversationpc]

...and his name is Steve Perry. This is why he is taking so long to release new music. Time is on his side.

So that probably makes the release date for his next studio album something like 2170? And, of course, those things are ALWAYS delayed several times, so don't expect anything before like 2420. Of course, this is also really good news for Tom Scholz.

[artist4perry]

So let me get this straight....'god' lets your liver fail....then sends a doctor to 'fix' it.....is 'god' part of Obama's job-stimulus package?

Sugar if our bodies never deteriorated we would never die. You are not designed to live forever. God does not attack your liver. Your born with the genetics your born with, and a great deal we do to hurt ourselves.


Obama is Satan you know that right?

Have you read this? Kind of interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4003063.stm

Right.......it will never happen. How will we pay for the baby boomers if this happens!

It will most likely happen, maybe not in our lifetime though. Science is awesome.

Always searching for the fountain of youth. Never finding it. Science can do many things. Stop aging? Then you open a Pandora's box. Children are born every day. If no one ages or dies, or lives to extreme old age, we will end up like a pack of rats overflowing into the sea. Sometimes you need to think through what you wish for.

[Duncan]

So let me get this straight....'god' lets your liver fail....then sends a doctor to 'fix' it.....is 'god' part of Obama's job-stimulus package?

Sugar if our bodies never deteriorated we would never die. You are not designed to live forever. God does not attack your liver. Your born with the genetics your born with, and a great deal we do to hurt ourselves.


Obama is Satan you know that right?

Have you read this? Kind of interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4003063.stm

Right.......it will never happen. How will we pay for the baby boomers if this happens!

It will most likely happen, maybe not in our lifetime though. Science is awesome.

Always searching for the fountain of youth. Never finding it. Science can do many things. Stop aging? Then you open a Pandora's box. Children are born every day. If no one ages or dies, or lives to extreme old age, we will end up like a pack of rats overflowing into the sea. Sometimes you need to think through what you wish for.

I'm surprised you are against this. Noah lived until he was 950. If it's good enough for Noah it's good enough for me.

[artist4perry]

So let me get this straight....'god' lets your liver fail....then sends a doctor to 'fix' it.....is 'god' part of Obama's job-stimulus package?

Sugar if our bodies never deteriorated we would never die. You are not designed to live forever. God does not attack your liver. Your born with the genetics your born with, and a great deal we do to hurt ourselves.


Obama is Satan you know that right?

Have you read this? Kind of interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4003063.stm

Right.......it will never happen. How will we pay for the baby boomers if this happens!

It will most likely happen, maybe not in our lifetime though. Science is awesome.

Always searching for the fountain of youth. Never finding it. Science can do many things. Stop aging? Then you open a Pandora's box. Children are born every day. If no one ages or dies, or lives to extreme old age, we will end up like a pack of rats overflowing into the sea. Sometimes you need to think through what you wish for.

I'm surprised you are against this. Noah lived until he was 950. If it's good enough for Noah it's good enough for me.

Hey go for it. Overpopulation and starvation are a great things to live through. Of course in the day of Noah the world was not as highly populated as it is now.

[parfait]

So let me get this straight....'god' lets your liver fail....then sends a doctor to 'fix' it.....is 'god' part of Obama's job-stimulus package?

Sugar if our bodies never deteriorated we would never die. You are not designed to live forever. God does not attack your liver. Your born with the genetics your born with, and a great deal we do to hurt ourselves.


Obama is Satan you know that right?

Have you read this? Kind of interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4003063.stm

Right.......it will never happen. How will we pay for the baby boomers if this happens!

It will most likely happen, maybe not in our lifetime though. Science is awesome.

Always searching for the fountain of youth. Never finding it. Science can do many things. Stop aging? Then you open a Pandora's box. Children are born every day. If no one ages or dies, or lives to extreme old age, we will end up like a pack of rats overflowing into the sea. Sometimes you need to think through what you wish for.

I'm surprised you are against this. Noah lived until he was 950. If it's good enough for Noah it's good enough for me.

Hey go for it. Overpopulation and starvation are a great things to live through. Of course in the day of Noah the world was not as highly populated as it is now.

Are you the one to tell the old and frail that they'll just suck it up and die and not get their youth back?

And you're joking about Noah, right? That's not something to be taken literally.

[artist4perry]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

And no not many people during Noah's time. Considering if you believe in Noah you would know 8 people existed after the flood. But since you don't believe in Noah, there would not have been anyone to live to his age now would there. So we still would not know what that would be like now would we?

[S2M]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

And no not many people during Noah's time. Considering if you believe in Noah you would know 8 people existed after the flood. But since you don't believe in Noah, there would not have been anyone to live to his age now would there. So we still would not know what that would be like now would we?

Lemme guess....all HS art teachers?

[artist4perry]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

And no not many people during Noah's time. Considering if you believe in Noah you would know 8 people existed after the flood. But since you don't believe in Noah, there would not have been anyone to live to his age now would there. So we still would not know what that would be like now would we?

Lemme guess....all HS art teachers?

Nah. We would have painted the boat pretty colors. He stated he wanted to live as long as Noah. I responded that in Noah's day the population dropped drastically after a disaster of Godly proportions.

Go bait someone else. My answer was tongue in cheek, and you guys are just looking for someone or anything to argue with.

[verslibre]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

He thinks by that time we'll have colonized Mars and set up resorts there, henceforth alleviating overpopulation on Earth.

That is science fiction. You know, like Total Recall and Logan's Run.

We can't even get our asses back to the flippin' Moon. And the whole "we haven't gone back because there's no need to" argument is bullshit.

[S2M]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

He thinks by that time we'll have colonized Mars and set up resorts there, henceforth alleviating overpopulation on Earth.

That is science fiction. You know, like Total Recall and Logan's Run.

We can't even get our asses back to the flippin' Moon. And the whole "we haven't gone back because there's no need to" argument is bullshit.

We haven't gone back because there is no money in it....once they figure out how to fleece the american people out of money - we'll be back.

[parfait]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

He thinks by that time we'll have colonized Mars and set up resorts there, henceforth alleviating overpopulation on Earth.

That is science fiction. You know, like Total Recall and Logan's Run.

We can't even get our asses back to the flippin' Moon. And the whole "we haven't gone back because there's no need to" argument is bullshit.

I never said that. de Grey has some decent answers on the overpopulation argument.

It's surely not science fiction; stuff like telomer shortening is something you learn about in biology in high school. What is fiction though, is that some dude brought a pair of each animal on a wooden boat and just chilled out on a wave.

[artist4perry]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

He thinks by that time we'll have colonized Mars and set up resorts there, henceforth alleviating overpopulation on Earth.

That is science fiction. You know, like Total Recall and Logan's Run.

We can't even get our asses back to the flippin' Moon. And the whole "we haven't gone back because there's no need to" argument is bullshit.

I never said that. de Grey has some decent answers on the overpopulation argument.

It's surely not science fiction; stuff like telomer shortening is something you learn about in biology in high school. What is fiction though, is that some dude brought a pair of each animal on a wooden boat and just chilled out on a wave.

Actually there were 2 of each common animal, and 7 of each clean. (Animals they would have eaten)

God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
Make it out of GOPHER BARKIE, BARKIE
Children of the lord! Everybody sing!

[S2M]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

He thinks by that time we'll have colonized Mars and set up resorts there, henceforth alleviating overpopulation on Earth.

That is science fiction. You know, like Total Recall and Logan's Run.

We can't even get our asses back to the flippin' Moon. And the whole "we haven't gone back because there's no need to" argument is bullshit.

I never said that. de Grey has some decent answers on the overpopulation argument.

It's surely not science fiction; stuff like telomer shortening is something you learn about in biology in high school. What is fiction though, is that some dude brought a pair of each animal on a wooden boat and just chilled out on a wave.

Actually there were 2 of each common animal, and 7 of each clean. (Animals they would have eaten)

God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
Make it out of GOPHER BARKIE, BARKIE
Children of the lord! Everybody sing!

The defense rests....

[parfait]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

He thinks by that time we'll have colonized Mars and set up resorts there, henceforth alleviating overpopulation on Earth.

That is science fiction. You know, like Total Recall and Logan's Run.

We can't even get our asses back to the flippin' Moon. And the whole "we haven't gone back because there's no need to" argument is bullshit.

I never said that. de Grey has some decent answers on the overpopulation argument.

It's surely not science fiction; stuff like telomer shortening is something you learn about in biology in high school. What is fiction though, is that some dude brought a pair of each animal on a wooden boat and just chilled out on a wave.

Actually there were 2 of each common animal, and 7 of each clean. (Animals they would have eaten)

God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
Make it out of GOPHER BARKIE, BARKIE
Children of the lord! Everybody sing!

There's close to 1,7 million different vertebrae and non-vertebrae species that we currently know of. Come on. Seriously?

[Gideon]

There's close to 1,7 million different vertebrae and non-vertebrae species that we currently know of. Come on. Seriously?

Well the Ark was big.

[artist4perry]

You guys didn't like my little song? Seriously you guys are just bored and looking to argue about anything.

How about this one! I sang this one in High School! This is a fun song to sing!

http://youtu.be/Yau2YHgHpVI

Ain't Got time to die!

Lord I keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
Ain't got time to die

Chorus:
'Cause it takes all of my time (It takes all of my time, it takes it all)
All of my time (to praise Him)
If I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Lord I keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Lord I keep so busy servin' my master (keep so busy)
Keep so busy servin' my master (I'm servin')
Keep so busy servin' my master
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all to Jesus)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all in all)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm givin' all of my life to Him)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Now won't you get out of my way (oh get out of my way)
Get out of my way (you better get out of my way)
Let me tell you if I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die
Ain't got time to die

[artist4perry]

Parfait, seriously if you cannot see the problems with people living long lives and children being born at a high rate I cannot help you. You cannot see issues with population explosion?

He thinks by that time we'll have colonized Mars and set up resorts there, henceforth alleviating overpopulation on Earth.

That is science fiction. You know, like Total Recall and Logan's Run.

We can't even get our asses back to the flippin' Moon. And the whole "we haven't gone back because there's no need to" argument is bullshit.

I never said that. de Grey has some decent answers on the overpopulation argument.

It's surely not science fiction; stuff like telomer shortening is something you learn about in biology in high school. What is fiction though, is that some dude brought a pair of each animal on a wooden boat and just chilled out on a wave.

Actually there were 2 of each common animal, and 7 of each clean. (Animals they would have eaten)

God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
God said to Noah,
To build me an ARKIE, ARKIE,
Make it out of GOPHER BARKIE, BARKIE
Children of the lord! Everybody sing!

The defense rests....

Sean you have no sense of fun.

[Duncan]

You guys didn't like my little song? Seriously you guys are just bored and looking to argue about anything.

How about this one! I sang this one in High School! This is a fun song to sing!

http://youtu.be/Yau2YHgHpVI

Ain't Got time to die!

Lord I keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
Ain't got time to die

Chorus:
'Cause it takes all of my time (It takes all of my time, it takes it all)
All of my time (to praise Him)
If I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Lord I keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Lord I keep so busy servin' my master (keep so busy)
Keep so busy servin' my master (I'm servin')
Keep so busy servin' my master
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all to Jesus)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all in all)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm givin' all of my life to Him)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Now won't you get out of my way (oh get out of my way)
Get out of my way (you better get out of my way)
Let me tell you if I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die
Ain't got time to die

Verses 6 & 7 are quite disturbing. This master/servant concept is vile and certainly shouldn't be taught to kids.

[verslibre]

This master/servant concept is vile

I thought you got off on stuff like that. You know, master & servant, sub/dom, leather, whips, gimp suit, etc.

[conversationpc]

You guys didn't like my little song? Seriously you guys are just bored and looking to argue about anything.

How about this one! I sang this one in High School! This is a fun song to sing!

http://youtu.be/Yau2YHgHpVI

Ain't Got time to die!

Lord I keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
Ain't got time to die

Chorus:
'Cause it takes all of my time (It takes all of my time, it takes it all)
All of my time (to praise Him)
If I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Lord I keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Lord I keep so busy servin' my master (keep so busy)
Keep so busy servin' my master (I'm servin')
Keep so busy servin' my master
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all to Jesus)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all in all)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm givin' all of my life to Him)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Now won't you get out of my way (oh get out of my way)
Get out of my way (you better get out of my way)
Let me tell you if I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die
Ain't got time to die

Verses 6 & 7 are quite disturbing. This master/servant concept is vile and certainly shouldn't be taught to kids.

The master/servant mentioned in this song is not the same thing as, for instance, the master/slave relationship.

[artist4perry]

You guys didn't like my little song? Seriously you guys are just bored and looking to argue about anything.

How about this one! I sang this one in High School! This is a fun song to sing!

http://youtu.be/Yau2YHgHpVI

Ain't Got time to die!

Lord I keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Keep so busy praisin' my Jesus
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
When I'm helpin' the sick (I'm praisin' my Jesus)
Ain't got time to die

Chorus:
'Cause it takes all of my time (It takes all of my time, it takes it all)
All of my time (to praise Him)
If I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Lord I keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Keep so busy workin' for the kingdom (workin' and I'm workin')
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
When I'm feedin' the poor (I'm workin' for the kingdom)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Lord I keep so busy servin' my master (keep so busy)
Keep so busy servin' my master (I'm servin')
Keep so busy servin' my master
Ain't got time to die

'Cause when I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all to Jesus)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm gonna give my all in all)
When I'm givin' my all (I'm servin' my master) (I'm givin' all of my life to Him)
Ain't got time to die

Repeat Chorus

Now won't you get out of my way (oh get out of my way)
Get out of my way (you better get out of my way)
Let me tell you if I don't praise Him the rocks are gonna cry out
Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die

Glory and honor, glory and honor
Ain't got time to die
Ain't got time to die

Verses 6 & 7 are quite disturbing. This master/servant concept is vile and certainly shouldn't be taught to kids.

It is an old spiritual. If you would actually listen to the song I put on you would know it was an African American song, written by African American's about their love for God. So if this is what they wanted to put into the song, and yes we see God as a Father, Master, Savior, and King. You would not understand that. Your too busy trying to see the ugly side, not a Master as a slave and master as in the slavery days, but one who is honored, loved, revered, and served willingly not under duress or force. When you obey your father your serving him. Are you doing so because your a slave? Or out of reverence?

Another name for God as master is Adonai. It is spoken in loving terms.

What is disturbing is how you twist things to be so ugly when in fact it is beautiful. Abba, Father, names Jesus spoke to God the father in prayer while in great sorrow.

The writer by the way was an African American gentleman named Hall Johnson, who wrote the song for expressing praise and joy to God.

Hall Johnson (March 12, 1888 – April 30, 1970) was one of a number of American composers and arrangers—including Harry T. Burleigh, R. Nathaniel Dett, and Eva Jessye—who elevated the African-American spiritual to an art form, comparable in its musical sophistication to the compositions of European Classical composers.

[artist4perry]

http://youtu.be/8eiI52WluF0

Another great song I enjoyed singing, "Soon I will be Done"
This is an arangement by Mahalia Jackson

Many rock songs get their roots from wonderful songs like this. She had a wonderful strong voice. I admire it greatly.

These songs taught me great power in song, complex arrangements, and helped me develop a strong soprano voice.

Soon I will be done

Soon I will be done
With the troubles of the world
Troubles of the world
Troubles of the world
Soon I will be done
Troubles of the world
I'm going home to live with God

No more weepin' and wailin'
No more weepin' and wailin'
No more weepin' and wailin'
I'm going home to live my Lord

Soon I will be done
With the troubles of the world
Troubles of the world
Troubles of the world
Soon I will be done
Troubles of the world
I'm going home to live with my Lord

I want to see my mother
I want to see my mother
I want to see my mother
I'm going home to live with God

Soon I will be done
With the troubles of the world
Troubles of the world
Troubles of the world
Soon I will be done
Troubles of the world
I'm going home to live with God

[artist4perry]

Many Gospel songs and gospel singing were some of the first songs that many rock singers sang and learned to sing.

Elvis Presley: I come to the garden alone

http://youtu.be/VSU_nCYvOeU

Ray Charles: Oh happy day

http://youtu.be/-9Y1DJqfg20

Aretha Franklin; God will take care of you

http://youtu.be/SDroNc1-RzE


The Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and the list goes on. Like it or not it is a part and parcel to Rock and Roll.

The African Americans sang many spirituals to help them deal with the sorrow and mistreatment during times of slavery and the civil rights movement. It was a great comfort to them and helped them cope when things were beyond what they could do to stop the unfairness.

[ebake02]

I didn't know this thread was still around.

[artist4perry]

I didn't know this thread was still around.

Yeah, S2M needs to bring it up from time to time to show how open minded he is.

I just like taking it on a lark when they do.

[S2M]

I didn't know this thread was still around.

Yeah, S2M needs to bring it up from time to time to show how open minded he is.

I just like taking it on a lark when they do.

Actually, the last time I posted in this thread was Sept 30th. Dave resurrected it on Nov 18th...

But by all means, ignore the facts....seems to be your M.O. - take it on faith.

[artist4perry]

I didn't know this thread was still around.

Yeah, S2M needs to bring it up from time to time to show how open minded he is.

I just like taking it on a lark when they do.

Actually, the last time I posted in this thread was Sept 30th. Dave resurrected it on Nov 18th...

But by all means, ignore the facts....seems to be your M.O. - take it on faith.

I was kidding S2M, you really take this all too seriously. I don't know who started it back up nor do I care. I find the whole thread just a joke sometimes because it is a you vs us kind of mentality for you guys. It is just personal opinions and belief systems and not everyone is going to see eye to eye with you. Maybe just learn something from it all.


Relax a little will ya?