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Deb wrote:Andrew wrote:Rockindeano wrote: Bob Dylan doesn't suck like all you think.
Yes he does. He is an influential songwriter and headed the hippy-led singer/songwriter genre for a decade in the 60s, but fuck me...that was 40 year ago. The old todger has never been a "singer". Deano, you need to get a grip...or perhaps loosen your grip???
True that.That explains soooooo much when it comes to our debates. Dean, if you think Dylan is a good singer, then we are planets apart in our vocal tastes. Like Springsteen, he is definitely a great songwriter, but I seriously can barely make it through a whole song of Bob Dylan's singing.
That list is more of a 100 'most popular' guitarists..............I definitely wouldn't call it 100 'top' guitarists. There is lots of extremely talented guitarists MIA on that list.
artist4perry wrote:Deb wrote:Andrew wrote:Rockindeano wrote: Bob Dylan doesn't suck like all you think.
Yes he does. He is an influential songwriter and headed the hippy-led singer/songwriter genre for a decade in the 60s, but fuck me...that was 40 year ago. The old todger has never been a "singer". Deano, you need to get a grip...or perhaps loosen your grip???
True that.That explains soooooo much when it comes to our debates. Dean, if you think Dylan is a good singer, then we are planets apart in our vocal tastes. Like Springsteen, he is definitely a great songwriter, but I seriously can barely make it through a whole song of Bob Dylan's singing.
That list is more of a 100 'most popular' guitarists..............I definitely wouldn't call it 100 'top' guitarists. There is lots of extremely talented guitarists MIA on that list.
Bob Dylan is a great songwriter, but his voice is mundane.
Now if you want sucky singing I state that Yoko Ono is the worst! Watch this.........some think she is a genius.![]()
http://youtu.be/HdZ9weP5i68
http://youtu.be/bfZvHuh7wKM
musicfan17 wrote:Honestly, any list like this is subjective, but Rolling Stone's list as a whole are just crap. Putting 100 greatest of anything is always going to leave off people and have people in the list that not everyone will agree with. I think I'd have a hard time writing down a full 100 guitarists that I think are great! LOL and I played guitar for the better part of my life!! IMO should Schon be on a top 100 list? Yes. Top 50? Yes. But it doesn't break my heart that Rolling Stoned didn't include him, since that magazine sucks hairy donkey balls anyway.
As for Neal himself...Neal was actually a better player from say 1976 to around 2001 than he is today. He shreds way too much and lacks the melodic, sonic, emotional feel that was spread throughout much of his playing from earlier in his career. He is still a great, great guitar player, but I just don't hear him play from the same "place" melodically in Journey that he once did. His solo works show him in a better light IMO than Journey has in recent years.
Ehwmatt wrote:musicfan17 wrote:Honestly, any list like this is subjective, but Rolling Stone's list as a whole are just crap. Putting 100 greatest of anything is always going to leave off people and have people in the list that not everyone will agree with. I think I'd have a hard time writing down a full 100 guitarists that I think are great! LOL and I played guitar for the better part of my life!! IMO should Schon be on a top 100 list? Yes. Top 50? Yes. But it doesn't break my heart that Rolling Stoned didn't include him, since that magazine sucks hairy donkey balls anyway.
As for Neal himself...Neal was actually a better player from say 1976 to around 2001 than he is today. He shreds way too much and lacks the melodic, sonic, emotional feel that was spread throughout much of his playing from earlier in his career. He is still a great, great guitar player, but I just don't hear him play from the same "place" melodically in Journey that he once did. His solo works show him in a better light IMO than Journey has in recent years.
I think the reason for the decline is simple: the further he's gotten from playing with a dominating singer who's not afraid to show some control and direction, the further he's gotten from playing for the song. In 98 and 2001, he was still playing some really nice solos, e.g., Signs of Life, Livin to Do etc. He was still close enough to the Perry years. As he got further away from that and asserted more control over the band/music, there was simply no one there to rein him in.
Ehwmatt wrote:musicfan17 wrote:Honestly, any list like this is subjective, but Rolling Stone's list as a whole are just crap. Putting 100 greatest of anything is always going to leave off people and have people in the list that not everyone will agree with. I think I'd have a hard time writing down a full 100 guitarists that I think are great! LOL and I played guitar for the better part of my life!! IMO should Schon be on a top 100 list? Yes. Top 50? Yes. But it doesn't break my heart that Rolling Stoned didn't include him, since that magazine sucks hairy donkey balls anyway.
As for Neal himself...Neal was actually a better player from say 1976 to around 2001 than he is today. He shreds way too much and lacks the melodic, sonic, emotional feel that was spread throughout much of his playing from earlier in his career. He is still a great, great guitar player, but I just don't hear him play from the same "place" melodically in Journey that he once did. His solo works show him in a better light IMO than Journey has in recent years.
I think the reason for the decline is simple: the further he's gotten from playing with a dominating singer who's not afraid to show some control and direction, the further he's gotten from playing for the song. In 98 and 2001, he was still playing some really nice solos, e.g., Signs of Life, Livin to Do etc. He was still close enough to the Perry years. As he got further away from that and asserted more control over the band/music, there was simply no one there to rein him in.
Triple S wrote:Tomulator wrote:Any list that has Prince as high as it does yet DOESN'T INCLUDE STEVE FRIGGIN LUKATHER is trash.
You're right - Prince should be higher on the list.
AR wrote:Rolling Stone makes for nice toilet paper.
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