Final round of TV questions

[Journey/Survivor]

Just a question, please don't jump all over me: Who talked you into getting a Panasonic? You could have gotten a better Samsung 55" for $150 less.

If I was going to get an LCD model, I would have bought a Samsung. And like you mentioned, it would have been cheaper. I was tempted to go that route.

But I watch a lot of sports and action movies, and everything that I was reading on tech websites said that Plasmas are better for sports and movies because the picture doesn't blur as much during fast movement, and that the colors are better with a Plasma.

All of the reviews that I read said that Panasonic makes the best Plasmas now that Pioneer stopped making them.

So, based on what I read in many, many reviews from several different websites, I would suggest that if someone wanted an LCD, that they should get a Samsung. But that if they want a Plasma, Panasonic is the way to go at this time.

I mentioned it earlier, but I'm pretty sure that Panasonic is now using Pioneer's technology in their plasmas.

For Televisions, Panasonic is ranked number one as far reliability goes with a 2% fail rate.
Sony and Sharp are at a 3% rate.
LG, Toshiba, Samsung and surprisingly Funai (the makers of Phillips and Magnavox branded TVs) are at 4%.
Vizio and Sharp are around 6%.
After that it falls off rapidly. Westinghouse and Polaroid are other Western name brands being manufactured under license in mass market electronic factories like Coby, Haier, and Seiki.
While pretty much all the brands are MADE in China now, the latter group unfortunately have double digit failure rates.

Yes, Panasonic uses Pioneer's Kuro technology in their Plasmas. Now that Pioneer no longer make Plasmas, Panasonic's Plasmas rate the best.

[Journey/Survivor]

[quote="Don"][quote="Journey/Survivor"]

Double post.

[yulog]

Just a question, please don't jump all over me: Who talked you into getting a Panasonic? You could have gotten a better Samsung 55" for $150 less.

If I was going to get an LCD model, I would have bought a Samsung. And like you mentioned, it would have been cheaper. I was tempted to go that route.

But I watch a lot of sports and action movies, and everything that I was reading on tech websites said that Plasmas are better for sports and movies because the picture doesn't blur as much during fast movement, and that the colors are better with a Plasma.

All of the reviews that I read said that Panasonic makes the best Plasmas now that Pioneer stopped making them.

So, based on what I read in many, many reviews from several different websites, I would suggest that if someone wanted an LCD, that they should get a Samsung. But that if they want a Plasma, Panasonic is the way to go at this time.

I mentioned it earlier, but I'm pretty sure that Panasonic is now using Pioneer's technology in their plasmas.

For Televisions, Panasonic is ranked number one as far reliability goes with a 2% fail rate.
Sony and Sharp are at a 3% rate.
LG, Toshiba, Samsung and surprisingly Funai (the makers of Phillips and Magnavox branded TVs) are at 4%.
Vizio and Sharp are around 6%.
After that it falls off rapidly. Westinghouse and Polaroid are other Western name brands being manufactured under license in mass market electronic factories like Coby, Haier, and Seiki.
While pretty much all the brands are MADE in China now, the latter group unfortunately have double digit failure rates.

Yes, Panasonic uses Pioneer's Kuro technology in their Plasmas. Now that Pioneer no longer make Plasmas, Panasonic's Plasmas rate the best.

How much did you pay for your plasma and what size was it? I almost bought a samsung 51 inch plasma for 500 this weekend but i hear the plasmas put off a lot of heat and the colors ,especially yellow dont look as good on plasmas compared to lcd/led, i also noticed the black was not darker on this set compared to the surrounding lcd sets and the brightness function didnt change at all from lowest setting to highest setting(rendering it useless)

[Journey/Survivor]

Just a question, please don't jump all over me: Who talked you into getting a Panasonic? You could have gotten a better Samsung 55" for $150 less.

If I was going to get an LCD model, I would have bought a Samsung. And like you mentioned, it would have been cheaper. I was tempted to go that route.

But I watch a lot of sports and action movies, and everything that I was reading on tech websites said that Plasmas are better for sports and movies because the picture doesn't blur as much during fast movement, and that the colors are better with a Plasma.

All of the reviews that I read said that Panasonic makes the best Plasmas now that Pioneer stopped making them.

So, based on what I read in many, many reviews from several different websites, I would suggest that if someone wanted an LCD, that they should get a Samsung. But that if they want a Plasma, Panasonic is the way to go at this time.

I mentioned it earlier, but I'm pretty sure that Panasonic is now using Pioneer's technology in their plasmas.

For Televisions, Panasonic is ranked number one as far reliability goes with a 2% fail rate.
Sony and Sharp are at a 3% rate.
LG, Toshiba, Samsung and surprisingly Funai (the makers of Phillips and Magnavox branded TVs) are at 4%.
Vizio and Sharp are around 6%.
After that it falls off rapidly. Westinghouse and Polaroid are other Western name brands being manufactured under license in mass market electronic factories like Coby, Haier, and Seiki.
While pretty much all the brands are MADE in China now, the latter group unfortunately have double digit failure rates.

Yes, Panasonic uses Pioneer's Kuro technology in their Plasmas. Now that Pioneer no longer make Plasmas, Panasonic's Plasmas rate the best.

How much did you pay for your plasma and what size was it? I almost bought a samsung 51 inch plasma for 500 this weekend but i hear the plasmas put off a lot of heat and the colors ,especially yellow dont look as good on plasmas compared to lcd/led, i also noticed the black was not darker on this set compared to the surrounding lcd sets and the brightness function didnt change at all from lowest setting to highest setting(rendering it useless)

I bought a 50" Panasonic Plasma 1080P for $800.

I had recently discovered that a friend of mine's Samsung LCD was extremely hot, almost too hot to hold your hand on the back of the TV. So far, my Plasma is not getting hot.

They say that you will get deeper blacks on a Plasma. From what I read, they set the LCD's extra bright in showrooms, plus a Plasma won't look as good in a brightly lit store.

Again, from what I've read/heard, Panasonic makes the best Plasmas right now. Samsung's have a great reputation for LCD's. You probably won't go wrong with either one.

[Enigma869]

i hear the plasmas put off a lot of heat

That is true, but so do most other electronics, including every laptop I've ever owned. It is factual that plasma displays do use more energy than LCD's but it's not as significant as it used to be.

and the colors ,especially yellow dont look as good on plasmas compared to lcd/led,

Definitely hasn't been my experience. I've yet to come across a single LCD display (including the highest end models) that rival the highest end models of plasma displays when it comes to color accuracy.

i also noticed the black was not darker on this set compared to the surrounding lcd sets and the brightness function didnt change at all from lowest setting to highest setting(rendering it useless)

Black levels will ALWAYS be better on a plasma display versus an LCD display (with today's current technology). That gap has also finally closed, somewhat. A couple of years ago, the black levels on LCD displays were virtually non-existent. I will tell you that a brightly lit, electronics showroom isn't the place to judge black levels on any display. It also sounds like there was something wrong with the settings on the display that you were trying to tweak.

[Ehwmatt]

I'm with John here.

I own an LCD and a Plasma TV and there is simply no comparison between picture quality. There had to have been something wrong with the display if a plasma was getting "outblacked" by ANY LCD display.

[yulog]

I went to best buy and watched a panasonic plasma and saw the same as the samsung (as far as the yellows and whites} , the color was not as sharp as the lcds(not as bright ,at times it looked to have a greying effect) the tv as a whole was no where near as bright as the lcds but the dark blues on the plasma showed to be better the black on this set was very good but no better than many of the lcds surrouding it .

The best picture i saw by a lanslide was on a Samsung 40 inch 3d tv 1080p led. None of the other tvs even came close They wanted 1000 bucks for it and i have looked at both the 3d on a samsung(which is active-you have to buy your glasses and put batteries in them), and the Lg which is a passive system (4 sets of glasses come with the set) and it wasn't even close , the Lg was easily superior when it came to 3d picture.

[Enigma869]

I went to best buy and watched a panasonic plasma and saw the same as the samsung (as far as the yellows and whites} , the color was not as sharp as the lcds(not as bright ,at times it looked to have a greying effect) the tv as a whole was no where near as bright as the lcds but the dark blues on the plasma showed to be better the black on this set was very good but no better than many of the lcds surrouding it .

The best picture i saw by a lanslide was on a Samsung 40 inch 3d tv 1080p led. None of the other tvs even came close They wanted 1000 bucks for it and i have looked at both the 3d on a samsung(which is active-you have to buy your glasses and put batteries in them), and the Lg which is a passive system (4 sets of glasses come with the set) and it wasn't even close , the Lg was easily superior when it came to 3d picture.

A couple of points...as I said previously, an electronics showroom isn't the place to judge one technology over the other. In terms of brightness, sure the LCD's are brighter. They will ALWAYS be brighter. That's the entire point of LCD technology. A brighter picture does not equal a better picture. Most people who are sticklers for a great picture (and I count myself among that group) will tell you that LCD's are artifically bright, which isn't a good thing for some of us. Also, you need to understand that the TV's on display in stores like Best Buy have endless people picking up the remote and screwing with the settings, so you really don't have a level playing field for comparing anything. I've been heavily into the home theater scene for 20 years. I'm not an expert, but understand the different technologies on the market. I have 6 LCD TV's in my house, but the TV in my family room (our main room for watching TV)is a 65 inch Panasonic plasma. I'll personally take the picture quality over plasma every single time. At some point, we'll all be forced to buy LCD's, as plasmas will eventually be phased out. Until then, I will continue to watch plasma displays. One other thing...I think LG makes garbage products. Their products almost always rank very low through Consumer Reports, and I agree with their assessment, given my experience with the reliability (or lack thereof) of their products.

[yulog]

I went to best buy and watched a panasonic plasma and saw the same as the samsung (as far as the yellows and whites} , the color was not as sharp as the lcds(not as bright ,at times it looked to have a greying effect) the tv as a whole was no where near as bright as the lcds but the dark blues on the plasma showed to be better the black on this set was very good but no better than many of the lcds surrouding it .

The best picture i saw by a lanslide was on a Samsung 40 inch 3d tv 1080p led. None of the other tvs even came close They wanted 1000 bucks for it and i have looked at both the 3d on a samsung(which is active-you have to buy your glasses and put batteries in them), and the Lg which is a passive system (4 sets of glasses come with the set) and it wasn't even close , the Lg was easily superior when it came to 3d picture.

A couple of points...as I said previously, an electronics showroom isn't the place to judge one technology over the other. In terms of brightness, sure the LCD's are brighter. They will ALWAYS be brighter. That's the entire point of LCD technology. A brighter picture does not equal a better picture. Most people who are sticklers for a great picture (and I count myself among that group) will tell you that LCD's are artifically bright, which isn't a good thing for some of us. Also, you need to understand that the TV's on display in stores like Best Buy have endless people picking up the remote and screwing with the settings, so you really don't have a level playing field for comparing anything. I've been heavily into the home theater scene for 20 years. I'm not an expert, but understand the different technologies on the market. I have 6 LCD TV's in my house, but the TV in my family room (our main room for watching TV)is a 65 inch Panasonic plasma. I'll personally take the picture quality over plasma every single time. At some point, we'll all be forced to buy LCD's, as plasmas will eventually be phased out. Until then, I will continue to watch plasma displays. One other thing...I think LG makes garbage products. Their products almost always rank very low through Consumer Reports, and I agree with their assessment, given my experience with the reliability (or lack thereof) of their products.

Went back to best buy today and looked at some Panasonic plasmas, 42, 46, 50 inch . The 42 and 46 struggled with anything white(it all looked grey) i had the manager come over to see if he could fix it and the briteness setting was half way so he turned it all the way up and nothing changed. thats 2 different companies with the same issue. I did notice that the panasonic set was not giving off as much heat as the other plasmas i looked at , and shockingly the 50 inch insignia plasma actually looked a little better than the samsung in the same size category but it was very dark(still very clear but everything was on the dark side).

From what i can see the plasmas create a darker image of every color(which in some cases is not acurate) the color of the best buy shirts (running on their digital feed)is better represented on the lcd/led's whereas the plasma makes the lite blue shirt into a dark blue color, almost navy(still looks good but it was the least accurate of all the sets).I would have to guess that if the lcds are fake bright , then in the same token , the plasmas are fake dark. Its clear that watching sports is much better on the plasma almost no blur noted, where as the lcds are horrible in this area , unless you go 240hz(even then plasma looks better).The last thing i noticed was the plasma sets that had the glossy screens looked a bit sharper than the sets without .

I think both sets have their advantages and disadvantages and between the 2 types lcd and plasma its a trade off (plasmas cost almost twice as much to run but cost a lot less than the same size lcd counterparts, when being bought in the store. The sports are better on plasma but accurate color is better on lcd, do you want your tv to pop with brite colors , or do you want it to be sharp and darker.

Still , after looking at all these sets neither lcd or plasma came close to touching the quality on the 40 and 46 inch samsung led 1080p 120hz sets(it wasn't even close) the 40 inch has the 3d as well for a grand , the 46 didnt have the 3d and was 1100. I personally would go back in size to the 40 inch because that set was just fantastic, all screen and hardly a bezel, super lite, cost about a third of what the plasmas run at and the picture blew away the competition.

[Journey/Survivor]

Have any of you ever used one of those "Mohu Paper thin Leaf indoor HDTV antennas?"
If you have used one, are you happy with it?

[Enigma869]

Have any of you ever used one of those "Mohu Paper thin Leaf indoor HDTV antennas?"
If you have used one, are you happy with it?

4.4 out of 5 stars on Amazon out of almost 500 reviews probably means that it's a decent item.

http://www.amazon.com/Paper-Thin-Leaf-I ... 991&sr=8-1

[Behshad]

JFB
I disagree in regards to LG. They make very solid products. Their passive 3D is above the competition. Even going by your "Amazon ratings " , their 47" 5600 or 6500 both got 4.5 ratings stop being so biased and look at products with an open mind instead of bragging about what a guru you are

[Enigma869]

JFB
I disagree in regards to LG. They make very solid products. Their passive 3D is above the competition. Even going by your "Amazon ratings " , their 47" 5600 or 6500 both got 4.5 ratings stop being so biased and look at products with an open mind instead of bragging about what a guru you are

You're an idiot. First off...I never fucking claimed that I was a "guru". That implies some level of expertise. I never claimed to be an expert. I simply stated that I was an avid consumer of electronics and have been involved with home theater setups in various homes that I've owned. If you like LG, more power to you. Most people like the brand they buy (which is why they buy it). If you visit home theater sites, you won't find many people who buy a particular brand and then criticize that brand. If you visit sites or read publications from those who are actual experts in the field, LG isn't regarded the way Samsung and Panasonic are.

[Behshad]

JFB
I disagree in regards to LG. They make very solid products. Their passive 3D is above the competition. Even going by your "Amazon ratings " , their 47" 5600 or 6500 both got 4.5 ratings stop being so biased and look at products with an open mind instead of bragging about what a guru you are

You're an idiot. First off...I never fucking claimed that I was a "guru". That implies some level of expertise. I never claimed to be an expert. I simply stated that I was an avid consumer of electronics and have been involved with home theater setups in various homes that I've owned. If you like LG, more power to you. Most people like the brand they buy (which is why they buy it). If you visit home theater sites, you won't find many people who buy a particular brand and then criticize that brand. If you visit sites or read publications from those who are actual experts in the field, LG isn't regarded the way Samsung and Panasonic are.

You're the idiot , moron. You have claimed more than once that you're an expert which you're NOT. You're a wanna-be. You brag about expert websites while your link points to Amazon get a clue moron, you know as much about home theatre as Stevew2 knows about spelling. I have one Panasonic , two Sonys and an LG. so I dont base my brand preference on what I own. You probably do tho. Did I mention you're a fucking moron.

[Ehwmatt]

JFB
I disagree in regards to LG. They make very solid products. Their passive 3D is above the competition. Even going by your "Amazon ratings " , their 47" 5600 or 6500 both got 4.5 ratings stop being so biased and look at products with an open mind instead of bragging about what a guru you are

You're an idiot. First off...I never fucking claimed that I was a "guru". That implies some level of expertise. I never claimed to be an expert. I simply stated that I was an avid consumer of electronics and have been involved with home theater setups in various homes that I've owned. If you like LG, more power to you. Most people like the brand they buy (which is why they buy it). If you visit home theater sites, you won't find many people who buy a particular brand and then criticize that brand. If you visit sites or read publications from those who are actual experts in the field, LG isn't regarded the way Samsung and Panasonic are.

I'm no home theater guru, but I have a 50" LG plasma that I'm very happy with. I've owned it for almost 3 years now with no problems yet, so it wins in the reliability column. I think it's a pretty nice picture too. Now, of course, it doesn't compare to my old man's 60" Samsung LED that he paid 3x what I paid for mine. But I think LG is solid, too.

The best TV I've seen is my dad's old Pioneer Elite. Great fucking TV.

[Enigma869]

You're the idiot , moron. You have claimed more than once that you're an expert which you're NOT. You're a wanna-be. You brag about expert websites while your link points to Amazon get a clue moron, you know as much about home theatre as Stevew2 knows about spelling. I have one Panasonic , two Sonys and an LG. so I dont base my brand preference on what I own. You probably do tho. Did I mention you're a fucking moron.

Go fuck yourself douche rag!

[Behshad]

You're the idiot , moron. You have claimed more than once that you're an expert which you're NOT. You're a wanna-be. You brag about expert websites while your link points to Amazon get a clue moron, you know as much about home theatre as Stevew2 knows about spelling. I have one Panasonic , two Sonys and an LG. so I dont base my brand preference on what I own. You probably do tho. Did I mention you're a fucking moron.

Go fuck yourself douche rag!

Great comeback , dickbag
Instead of wasting your time on home theater forums , you should consider some anger management classes.
Your first lesson : remember temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it

[Enigma869]

Great comeback , dickbag
Instead of wasting your time on home theater forums , you should consider some anger management classes.
Your first lesson : remember temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it

In the event you haven't connected the dots, fuckwad, I don't like you and never have! Remember...you have sent me private messages through this board. I've never sent you a single message, because I simply don't like you or your passive aggressive nature. The only time I have ever even responded to you in any thread is when you decide to pretend what a tough guy you are and take me on. I choose not to interact with people whom I loathe! You're a passive aggressive fuck who thinks you're a whole lot tougher than you are, so go fuck yourself!

[Behshad]

Great comeback , dickbag
Instead of wasting your time on home theater forums , you should consider some anger management classes.
Your first lesson : remember temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it

In the event you haven't connected the dots, fuckwad, I don't like you and never have! Remember...you have sent me private messages through this board. I've never sent you a single message, because I simply don't like you or your passive aggressive nature. The only time I have ever even responded to you in any thread is when you decide to pretend what a tough guy you are and take me on. I choose not to interact with people whom I loathe! You're a passive aggressive fuck who thinks you're a whole lot tougher than you are, so go fuck yourself!

You just can't stand it when you're wrong ( which is quiet often).

Back to topic ,

http://www.pcworld.com/article/240404/t ... _2011.html

LG and their garbage seem to be doing pretty well

[conversationpc]

Great comeback , dickbag
Instead of wasting your time on home theater forums , you should consider some anger management classes.
Your first lesson : remember temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it

In the event you haven't connected the dots, fuckwad, I don't like you and never have! Remember...you have sent me private messages through this board. I've never sent you a single message, because I simply don't like you or your passive aggressive nature. The only time I have ever even responded to you in any thread is when you decide to pretend what a tough guy you are and take me on. I choose not to interact with people whom I loathe! You're a passive aggressive fuck who thinks you're a whole lot tougher than you are, so go fuck yourself!

You just can't stand it when you're wrong ( which is quiet often).

Back to topic ,

http://www.pcworld.com/article/240404/t ... _2011.html

LG and their garbage seem to be doing pretty well

Passive aggressive? Perhaps compared to John but still? WTF!

[Behshad]

Great comeback , dickbag
Instead of wasting your time on home theater forums , you should consider some anger management classes.
Your first lesson : remember temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it

In the event you haven't connected the dots, fuckwad, I don't like you and never have! Remember...you have sent me private messages through this board. I've never sent you a single message, because I simply don't like you or your passive aggressive nature. The only time I have ever even responded to you in any thread is when you decide to pretend what a tough guy you are and take me on. I choose not to interact with people whom I loathe! You're a passive aggressive fuck who thinks you're a whole lot tougher than you are, so go fuck yourself!

You just can't stand it when you're wrong ( which is quiet often).

Back to topic ,

http://www.pcworld.com/article/240404/t ... _2011.html

LG and their garbage seem to be doing pretty well

Passive aggressive? Perhaps compared to John but still? WTF!

[conversationpc]

Great comeback , dickbag
Instead of wasting your time on home theater forums , you should consider some anger management classes.
Your first lesson : remember temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it

In the event you haven't connected the dots, fuckwad, I don't like you and never have! Remember...you have sent me private messages through this board. I've never sent you a single message, because I simply don't like you or your passive aggressive nature. The only time I have ever even responded to you in any thread is when you decide to pretend what a tough guy you are and take me on. I choose not to interact with people whom I loathe! You're a passive aggressive fuck who thinks you're a whole lot tougher than you are, so go fuck yourself!

You just can't stand it when you're wrong ( which is quiet often).

Back to topic ,

http://www.pcworld.com/article/240404/t ... _2011.html

LG and their garbage seem to be doing pretty well

Passive aggressive? Perhaps compared to John but still? WTF!

Now sarcastic would probably be a MUCH BETTER description!

[Behshad]

Great comeback , dickbag
Instead of wasting your time on home theater forums , you should consider some anger management classes.
Your first lesson : remember temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it

In the event you haven't connected the dots, fuckwad, I don't like you and never have! Remember...you have sent me private messages through this board. I've never sent you a single message, because I simply don't like you or your passive aggressive nature. The only time I have ever even responded to you in any thread is when you decide to pretend what a tough guy you are and take me on. I choose not to interact with people whom I loathe! You're a passive aggressive fuck who thinks you're a whole lot tougher than you are, so go fuck yourself!

You just can't stand it when you're wrong ( which is quiet often).

Back to topic ,

http://www.pcworld.com/article/240404/t ... _2011.html

LG and their garbage seem to be doing pretty well

Passive aggressive? Perhaps compared to John but still? WTF!

Now sarcastic would probably be a MUCH BETTER description!

Me? Never!

[yulog]

Just a question, please don't jump all over me: Who talked you into getting a Panasonic? You could have gotten a better Samsung 55" for $150 less.

If I was going to get an LCD model, I would have bought a Samsung. And like you mentioned, it would have been cheaper. I was tempted to go that route.

But I watch a lot of sports and action movies, and everything that I was reading on tech websites said that Plasmas are better for sports and movies because the picture doesn't blur as much during fast movement, and that the colors are better with a Plasma.

All of the reviews that I read said that Panasonic makes the best Plasmas now that Pioneer stopped making them.

So, based on what I read in many, many reviews from several different websites, I would suggest that if someone wanted an LCD, that they should get a Samsung. But that if they want a Plasma, Panasonic is the way to go at this time.

I mentioned it earlier, but I'm pretty sure that Panasonic is now using Pioneer's technology in their plasmas.

For Televisions, Panasonic is ranked number one as far reliability goes with a 2% fail rate.
Sony and Sharp are at a 3% rate.
LG, Toshiba, Samsung and surprisingly Funai (the makers of Phillips and Magnavox branded TVs) are at 4%.
Vizio and Sharp are around 6%.
After that it falls off rapidly. Westinghouse and Polaroid are other Western name brands being manufactured under license in mass market electronic factories like Coby, Haier, and Seiki.
While pretty much all the brands are MADE in China now, the latter group unfortunately have double digit failure rates.

Yes, Panasonic uses Pioneer's Kuro technology in their Plasmas. Now that Pioneer no longer make Plasmas, Panasonic's Plasmas rate the best.

How much did you pay for your plasma and what size was it? I almost bought a samsung 51 inch plasma for 500 this weekend but i hear the plasmas put off a lot of heat and the colors ,especially yellow dont look as good on plasmas compared to lcd/led, i also noticed the black was not darker on this set compared to the surrounding lcd sets and the brightness function didnt change at all from lowest setting to highest setting(rendering it useless)

I bought a 50" Panasonic Plasma 1080P for $800.

I had recently discovered that a friend of mine's Samsung LCD was extremely hot, almost too hot to hold your hand on the back of the TV. So far, my Plasma is not getting hot.

They say that you will get deeper blacks on a Plasma. From what I read, they set the LCD's extra bright in showrooms, plus a Plasma won't look as good in a brightly lit store.

Again, from what I've read/heard, Panasonic makes the best Plasmas right now. Samsung's have a great reputation for LCD's. You probably won't go wrong with either one.

Just saw the Panasonic 60inch 1080p plasma at Costco today for $899

[Journey/Survivor]

Just a question, please don't jump all over me: Who talked you into getting a Panasonic? You could have gotten a better Samsung 55" for $150 less.

If I was going to get an LCD model, I would have bought a Samsung. And like you mentioned, it would have been cheaper. I was tempted to go that route.

But I watch a lot of sports and action movies, and everything that I was reading on tech websites said that Plasmas are better for sports and movies because the picture doesn't blur as much during fast movement, and that the colors are better with a Plasma.

All of the reviews that I read said that Panasonic makes the best Plasmas now that Pioneer stopped making them.

So, based on what I read in many, many reviews from several different websites, I would suggest that if someone wanted an LCD, that they should get a Samsung. But that if they want a Plasma, Panasonic is the way to go at this time.

I mentioned it earlier, but I'm pretty sure that Panasonic is now using Pioneer's technology in their plasmas.

For Televisions, Panasonic is ranked number one as far reliability goes with a 2% fail rate.
Sony and Sharp are at a 3% rate.
LG, Toshiba, Samsung and surprisingly Funai (the makers of Phillips and Magnavox branded TVs) are at 4%.
Vizio and Sharp are around 6%.
After that it falls off rapidly. Westinghouse and Polaroid are other Western name brands being manufactured under license in mass market electronic factories like Coby, Haier, and Seiki.
While pretty much all the brands are MADE in China now, the latter group unfortunately have double digit failure rates.

Yes, Panasonic uses Pioneer's Kuro technology in their Plasmas. Now that Pioneer no longer make Plasmas, Panasonic's Plasmas rate the best.

How much did you pay for your plasma and what size was it? I almost bought a samsung 51 inch plasma for 500 this weekend but i hear the plasmas put off a lot of heat and the colors ,especially yellow dont look as good on plasmas compared to lcd/led, i also noticed the black was not darker on this set compared to the surrounding lcd sets and the brightness function didnt change at all from lowest setting to highest setting(rendering it useless)

I bought a 50" Panasonic Plasma 1080P for $800.

I had recently discovered that a friend of mine's Samsung LCD was extremely hot, almost too hot to hold your hand on the back of the TV. So far, my Plasma is not getting hot.

They say that you will get deeper blacks on a Plasma. From what I read, they set the LCD's extra bright in showrooms, plus a Plasma won't look as good in a brightly lit store.

Again, from what I've read/heard, Panasonic makes the best Plasmas right now. Samsung's have a great reputation for LCD's. You probably won't go wrong with either one.

Just saw the Panasonic 60inch 1080p plasma at Costco today for $899

No, don't tell me that.

Actually, I had to draw the line somewhere, or next thing you know I would have been spending way more than I would have any business spending, just so I could have gotten a bigger screen.

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Have any of you ever used a preamp for a TV antenna, one that is not built into the antenna?
If you have, do you feel that it worked well?

Anyone have any suggestions for me on using a preamp with my new non-amplified Mohu Leaf indoor TV antenna?