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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:01 am

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Sarcasm. They called a 15 yard personal foul on a Bills player for driving the QB (Brady) into the ground when all it really was, was a slight shove haha. If Stevie Johnson wasn't such a schmuck he could of helped that Bills team on the gas peddle since he's their most dynamic offensive player on the field.


Sorry dude. Was watching another game at the time, so I didn't see the play that you were referring to. Still think the Patriots looked "flat" today? I can only hope that they look this "flat" when it's really time to play!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:05 am

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Sarcasm. They called a 15 yard personal foul on a Bills player for driving the QB (Brady) into the ground when all it really was, was a slight shove haha. If Stevie Johnson wasn't such a schmuck he could of helped that Bills team on the gas peddle since he's their most dynamic offensive player on the field.


Sorry dude. Was watching another game at the time, so I didn't see the play that you were referring to. Still think the Patriots looked "flat" today? I can only hope that they look this "flat" when it's really time to play!


It doesn't get as flat coming out at home to far more inferior teams than being down 17-0 and then 21-0. As soon as Stevie Johnson was pulled the Bills simply stopped playing football. Blatantly obvious they weren't the same team that put up 21-0 in that first quarter. Dropped balls, fumbled snaps, stupid penalties and interceptions galore. This was a sloppy game from BOTH teams until New England warmed up to how pathetic the Bills were actually playing then the route was on. Buffalo reminded themselves they were Buffalo. I'm not scared of anyone in the playoffs. The true scary teams reside in the NFC.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:05 am

S2M wrote:Worst call I've ever seen this side of SB42....WOW. I don't care WHAT the score is.


You should watch the play again. I just watched it three times in super slow mo, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that was a bad call. McCourty led with his helmet and last I checked, that is a penalty in today's NFL.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:07 am

YoungJRNY wrote: I'm not scared of anyone in the playoffs. The true scary teams reside in the NFC.


I couldn't agree with you more. I actually think that most of the teams in the AFC are pathetic. Hell, the Broncos are in the playoffs if they win today. That's all you need to know about the AFC!
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Postby S2M » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:10 am

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S2M wrote:Worst call I've ever seen this side of SB42....WOW. I don't care WHAT the score is.


You should watch the play again. I just watched it three times in super slow mo, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that was a bad call. McCourty led with his helmet and last I checked, that is a penalty in today's NFL.


The call was 'hitting a defenseless player', not 'leading with the helmet'. Which tells me the only difference between a penalty, and a non-call, is whether the WR actually catches the ball. But I'm sure if he actually grabbed the ball - it then would've been leading with the helmet. Lame call either way...
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:13 am

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The call was 'hitting a defenseless player', not 'leading with the helmet'. Which tells me the only difference between a penalty, and a non-call, is whether the WR actually catches the ball. But I'm sure if he actually grabbed the ball - it then would've been leading with the helmet. Lame call either way...


I know what the call was. I was watching the game. It doesn't change the fact that he led with his helmet, and that is absolutely a penalty.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:42 am

Matt Flynn set a new Packer record today with 6 TD's and the most passing yards ever by a Green Bay QB. Bizarre. It's just a matter of time before some dopey GM gives up a first round pick for this guy.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:13 am

Congratulations to the pathetic Raiders on setting an NFL record for the most penalties and most penalty yards in a season. They probably hold the previous 10 records for penalties. Completely clueless team, regardless of who their coach is.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:33 am

Looks like it will come down to New England and Pittsburgh once again. Even though the Steelers didn't get the bye, playing Touchdown Jesus is very similar to having the week off. Steelers by 24. This Broncos team may be the worst team to ever make the playoffs. I think the Bengals are awful as well, but Houston is VERY beatable.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:39 am

With Kansas City beating Denver and Oakland and the Jets both losing, the Bengals still clinched the 6th seed with a loss to Baltimore. Went down to 3 tiebreakers between Denver and Oakland for the WEST. The 3 teams with the longest playoff drought is the Buffalo Bills (1999) Cleveland Browns (2002) and Oakland Raiders (2002.)

AFC:

1. New England Patriots
2. Baltimore Ravens
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3. Houston Texans
4. Denver Broncos
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5. Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Cincinnati Bengals.

Wild Card Weekend:

Pittsburgh @ Denver
Cincinnati @ Houston
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:41 am

YoungJRNY wrote:With Kansas City beating Denver and Oakland and the Jets both losing, the Bengals still clinched the 6th seed with a loss to Baltimore. Went down to 3 tiebreakers between Denver and Oakland for the WEST. The 3 teams with the longest playoff drought is the Buffalo Bills (1999) Cleveland Browns (2002) and Oakland Raiders (2002.)

AFC:

1. New England Patriots
2. Baltimore Ravens
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3. Houston Texans
4. Denver Broncos
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5. Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Cincinnati Bengals.

Wild Card Weekend:

Pittsburgh @ Denver
Cincinnati @ Houston


You must be sooooooo pumped for that first round draw. It's almost comical. The Steelers are way too good of a team to be facing such a shit team in the playoffs.
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:44 am

Enigma869 wrote:Congratulations to the pathetic Raiders on setting an NFL record for the most penalties and most penalty yards in a season. They probably hold the previous 10 records for penalties. Completely clueless team, regardless of who their coach is.

With Davis gone, the Raiders should fire Hue Jackson and hire Jeff Fisher. He'd be able to whip the Raiders into shape. Won't happen though.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:04 am

Comparing my Conference seeding predictions before the season to the final results (Correct playoff picks in bold:)

Predictions:

AFC Conference seedings:
1. New England Patriots (holding tie-breaker over Pittsburgh head to head)
2. Pittsburgh Steelers
3. San Diego Chargers (Better conference record over Houston)
4. Houston Texans
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5. New York Jets
6. Baltimore Ravens


Final result:

1. New England Patriots
2. Baltimore Ravens
3. Houston Texans
4. Denver Broncos
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5. Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Cincinnati Bengals



NFC Conference seedings:
1. Atlanta Falcons
2. Philadelphia Eagles
3. Green Bay Packers
4. St.Louis Rams
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5. New Orleans Saints
6. Detroit Lions


Final Result:

1. Green Bay Packers
2. San Francisco 49'ers
3. New Orleans Saints
4. New York Giants /Dallas Cowboys
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5. Atlanta Falcons
6. Detroit Lions


Fun year with many surprises and unusual upsets around the NFL that came down to Week 17. Good luck to your team in the playoff's if qualified.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:07 am

RedWingFan wrote:With Davis gone, the Raiders should fire Hue Jackson and hire Jeff Fisher. He'd be able to whip the Raiders into shape. Won't happen though.


That's just it with the Raiders though. They have had countless head coaches over the years and they always seem to lead the NFL in most penalties. It's bizarre, actually. You simply can't win in the NFL when you fuck up that often. Look how completely awful the Patriots defense is, and yet they have a better record than every other team in the AFC. It's because they don't commit endless, dopey penalties, and they don't give the ball away. If they give the ball away, at all in the post-season, they simply won't win with their defense.
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:18 am

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RedWingFan wrote:With Davis gone, the Raiders should fire Hue Jackson and hire Jeff Fisher. He'd be able to whip the Raiders into shape. Won't happen though.


That's just it with the Raiders though. They have had countless head coaches over the years and they always seem to lead the NFL in most penalties. It's bizarre, actually. You simply can't win in the NFL when you fuck up that often. Look how completely awful the Patriots defense is, and yet they have a better record than every other team in the AFC. It's because they don't commit endless, dopey penalties, and they don't give the ball away. If they give the ball away, at all in the post-season, they simply won't win with their defense.

If you look though they were all Al's "yes" men. The only one that wasn't was Gruden.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:40 am

Fact Finder wrote:Bengals are the luckiest team today...shit..you can't make this stuff up...EVERYBODY LOST THAT NEEDED TO!. That never happens in Cincinnati... :lol:


The amazing thing is that the Bengals (who are simply not a good team, AT ALL) have a very good shot of beating a very beat up Texans team. The Texans simply are not playing well, at all. This could be a VERY ugly playoff game. I am a HUGE Bengals fan next week. If they win, they get rewarded by coming to New England. It would be the worst playoff opponent that the Patriots have ever played.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:21 pm

Enigma869 wrote: You must be sooooooo pumped for that first round draw. It's almost comical. The Steelers are way too good of a team to be facing such a shit team in the playoffs.


I just don't like how the Steelers are entering the playoffs whatsoever. I feel they are going on a downward spiral as far as health is considered. The Steelers have some more significant injuries to their list after today. Leading tackler on Special Teams and a standout player on our dime defense, Cortez Allen may have a torn bicep. Rashard Mendenhall may have torn his ACL and FS Ryan Clark may not play in Denver due to his sickle cell trait that almost left him dead in 2007 in Denver's high altitudes. The Steelers should be able to handle Denver on paper but it'll be a tough game knowing we will probably have to travel to Baltimore in the Divisional Round and that is always a bruiser. The Steelers lack of production this season on the road is a concern but BRING IT ON, no room for error now.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:53 pm

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I just don't like how the Steelers are entering the playoffs whatsoever. I feel they are going on a downward spiral as far as health is considered. The Steelers have some more significant injuries to their list after today. Leading tackler on Special Teams and a standout player on our dime defense, Cortez Allen may have a torn bicep. Rashard Mendenhall may have torn his ACL and FS Ryan Clark may not play in Denver due to his sickle cell trait that almost left him dead in 2007 in Denver's high altitudes. The Steelers should be able to handle Denver on paper but it'll be a tough game knowing we will probably have to travel to Baltimore in the Divisional Round and that is always a bruiser. The Steelers lack of production this season on the road is a concern but BRING IT ON, no room for error now.


While I don't disagree with your assessment of the Steelers, there is ZERO chance they're not beating Touchdown Jesus! Boston College could beat the Broncos. I feel very differently about the Steelers now than I did about a month ago. I don't see them winning their second round game, and a month ago, I thought they were the favorite from the AFC to get to (and get smoked) in The Super Bowl. The Mendenhall thing really isn't an issue, at all for me. The reality is that Pittsburgh doesn't run the football, so it doesn't matter who their running back is. Not to mention, Mendenall really isn't anything special. The Steelers run for 8 more yards a game than the Patriots do. The problem for the Steelers, as I see it, is that they simply can't score enough points to beat any team who can actually score. They are in the bottom third of the league when it comes to scoring points, and if you really look at their schedule, they really haven't even played any teams (beyond the Patriots) who can score points the entire season. If you're a Steelers fan, you can still hang your hat on the fact that they give up the fewest points per game, but when you look at most of the teams they played, most of those teams simply cannot score points.
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Postby No Surprize » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:32 am

You would think a team who had a shot of making the playoffs would play their ass's off and it would be a playoff style atmosphere and game. Dallas has no fucking ball's whatsoever. It was like watching LSU beating the living hell out of Ole Miss. Dallas looked unprepared and as fucking helpless as a rag doll. That being said watching my Phin's help keep the Yet's out of the playoff's was priceless. The Jester's and their windbag jabba the hut coach, like his dad always talking big in Philly and not backing up a single word. Like father, like son. On the sad side of the game was knowing it was Jason Taylor's last one. What a class act he has been for the Dolphin's and the NFL for 16 years. More NFL players need to emulate this man, both on & off the field.
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Postby DavidWT » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:11 am

Well, the Jets finally had a bad year under Ryan... disappointing.
My hopes of a Jets / Giants superbowl are dashed yet again. That being said, the Giants look to be peaking at the right time.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:10 am

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I just don't like how the Steelers are entering the playoffs whatsoever. I feel they are going on a downward spiral as far as health is considered. The Steelers have some more significant injuries to their list after today. Leading tackler on Special Teams and a standout player on our dime defense, Cortez Allen may have a torn bicep. Rashard Mendenhall may have torn his ACL and FS Ryan Clark may not play in Denver due to his sickle cell trait that almost left him dead in 2007 in Denver's high altitudes. The Steelers should be able to handle Denver on paper but it'll be a tough game knowing we will probably have to travel to Baltimore in the Divisional Round and that is always a bruiser. The Steelers lack of production this season on the road is a concern but BRING IT ON, no room for error now.


While I don't disagree with your assessment of the Steelers, there is ZERO chance they're not beating Touchdown Jesus! Boston College could beat the Broncos. I feel very differently about the Steelers now than I did about a month ago. I don't see them winning their second round game, and a month ago, I thought they were the favorite from the AFC to get to (and get smoked) in The Super Bowl. The Mendenhall thing really isn't an issue, at all for me. The reality is that Pittsburgh doesn't run the football, so it doesn't matter who their running back is. Not to mention, Mendenall really isn't anything special. The Steelers run for 8 more yards a game than the Patriots do. The problem for the Steelers, as I see it, is that they simply can't score enough points to beat any team who can actually score. They are in the bottom third of the league when it comes to scoring points, and if you really look at their schedule, they really haven't even played any teams (beyond the Patriots) who can score points the entire season. If you're a Steelers fan, you can still hang your hat on the fact that they give up the fewest points per game, but when you look at most of the teams they played, most of those teams simply cannot score points.


John, that was AWESOME. Pretty refreshing to see a post from you to not see "Shitsburgh" or "Rapistberger" in there somewhere regarding the Steelers. That's pretty much spot on & exactly how I see the Steelers and how I feel as a diehard Steelers fan entering the 2011 playoffs. The last impressive win on the season for me for the Steelers was against the Patriots. Since then, they haven't been that great, kind of up and down with chemistry due to severity with injuries at elite positions (they DID put together a perfect game against the Bengals at Heinz Field a couple games ago but the overall up and downs started when Ben and Pouncey got hurt against the Browns on that Thursday Night matchup.) The offense hasn't been on the same page as of late, hence, Ben playing the entire game yesterday against the Browns to build that back up and also get familiar with playing with his ankle sprain (atleast Ben seemed mobile again.)

If you're a Steelers fan, you can still hang your hat on the fact that they give up the fewest points per game, but when you look at most of the teams they played, most of those teams simply cannot score points.


Yep, also agree. The other side of that, I STILL don't trust this defense against elite offense's or in crunch time. Time and time again, we've seen the likes of Joe Flacco, Blaine Gabbert, Curtis Painter, and even Tyler Palko have chances to win the game in regulation and even Colt McCoy some weeks ago put up numbers on the #1 passing defense in the NFL. That defense has produced only 35 sacks and 15 turnovers. To compare, they had 48 sacks and 35 turnovers last season. Their four miserable fumble recoveries will set a new franchise low by far. I just think out of the 3 elite teams right now in the AFC (Patriots; Ravens; Steelers) the Steelers rank 3rd under Baltimore (balance in running game) and New England (one of the top scoring offense's.)
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Postby AR » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:40 am

Satisfied with the Ravens performance yesterday. It will be nice to relax through a bye week and finally get to see a home playoff game for the first time in ages.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:52 am

AR wrote:Satisfied with the Ravens performance yesterday. It will be nice to relax through a bye week and finally get to see a home playoff game for the first time in ages.


You should go, AR. There's nothing like a playoff atmosphere. I know the Ravens haven't enjoyed a home playoff game since 2006 when McNair lost to the Colts. No team in the AFC scares me AT ALL, which is weird because that in itself is scary, meaning anyone can beat anyone. Enjoy the BYE week, I've been spoiled over the last couple with seeing the Steelers play at home in January. We'll see how Baltimore responds to their homefield in the postseason. Realistically, you'll probably see us in the Divisional round with Cinci going to New England, but who knows, the Cinci/Houston game is anyone's to predict.
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Postby S2M » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:56 am

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AR wrote:Satisfied with the Ravens performance yesterday. It will be nice to relax through a bye week and finally get to see a home playoff game for the first time in ages.


You should go, AR. There's nothing like a playoff atmosphere. I know the Ravens haven't enjoyed a home playoff game since 2006 when McNair lost to the Colts. No team in the AFC scares me AT ALL, which is weird because that in itself is scary, meaning anyone can beat anyone. Enjoy the BYE week, I've been spoiled over the last couple with seeing the Steelers play at home in January. We'll see how Baltimore responds to their homefield in the postseason. Realistically, you'll probably see us in the Divisional round.


You should be scared...13-3 WITHOUT a defense. Chung is back. Gronk and Hernandez are unstoppable. Welker is the best slot guy in the league. Quit smokin' so much Black(and gold) cock....lol
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AR wrote:Satisfied with the Ravens performance yesterday. It will be nice to relax through a bye week and finally get to see a home playoff game for the first time in ages.


You should go, AR. There's nothing like a playoff atmosphere. I know the Ravens haven't enjoyed a home playoff game since 2006 when McNair lost to the Colts. No team in the AFC scares me AT ALL, which is weird because that in itself is scary, meaning anyone can beat anyone. Enjoy the BYE week, I've been spoiled over the last couple with seeing the Steelers play at home in January. We'll see how Baltimore responds to their homefield in the postseason. Realistically, you'll probably see us in the Divisional round.


You should be scared...13-3 WITHOUT a defense. Chung is back. Gronk and Hernandez are unstoppable. Welker is the best slot guy in the league. Quit smokin' so much Black(and gold) cock....lol


Um, dude, S2M, use your God damn degree in comprehension once in awhile! :lol: I said above the Steelers rank 3rd under New England (one of the best scoring offense's) and Baltimore (balanced run-game) as far as the elite entering the playoffs. Other than Cinci and Houston, the Steelers are hurting right now.
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AR wrote:Satisfied with the Ravens performance yesterday. It will be nice to relax through a bye week and finally get to see a home playoff game for the first time in ages.


You should go, AR. There's nothing like a playoff atmosphere. I know the Ravens haven't enjoyed a home playoff game since 2006 when McNair lost to the Colts. No team in the AFC scares me AT ALL, which is weird because that in itself is scary, meaning anyone can beat anyone. Enjoy the BYE week, I've been spoiled over the last couple with seeing the Steelers play at home in January. We'll see how Baltimore responds to their homefield in the postseason. Realistically, you'll probably see us in the Divisional round.


You should be scared...13-3 WITHOUT a defense. Chung is back. Gronk and Hernandez are unstoppable. Welker is the best slot guy in the league. Quit smokin' so much Black(and gold) cock....lol


Um, dude, S2M, use your God damn degree in comprehension once in awhile! :lol: I said above the Steelers rank 3rd under New England (one of the best scoring offense's) and Baltimore (balanced run defense) as far as the elite entering the playoffs. Other than Cinci and Houston, the Steelers are hurting right now.



I usually mentally redact everything in your posts other than: I love the Steelers, The Stillers are awesome, and here we go Stillers! :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:07 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
S2M wrote:
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AR wrote:Satisfied with the Ravens performance yesterday. It will be nice to relax through a bye week and finally get to see a home playoff game for the first time in ages.


You should go, AR. There's nothing like a playoff atmosphere. I know the Ravens haven't enjoyed a home playoff game since 2006 when McNair lost to the Colts. No team in the AFC scares me AT ALL, which is weird because that in itself is scary, meaning anyone can beat anyone. Enjoy the BYE week, I've been spoiled over the last couple with seeing the Steelers play at home in January. We'll see how Baltimore responds to their homefield in the postseason. Realistically, you'll probably see us in the Divisional round.


You should be scared...13-3 WITHOUT a defense. Chung is back. Gronk and Hernandez are unstoppable. Welker is the best slot guy in the league. Quit smokin' so much Black(and gold) cock....lol


Um, dude, S2M, use your God damn degree in comprehension once in awhile! :lol: I said above the Steelers rank 3rd under New England (one of the best scoring offense's) and Baltimore (balanced run defense) as far as the elite entering the playoffs. Other than Cinci and Houston, the Steelers are hurting right now.



I usually mentally redact everything in your posts other than: I love the Steelers, The Stillers are awesome, and here we go Stillers! :lol:


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Postby Maui Tom » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:39 am

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Postby AR » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:19 am

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AR wrote:Satisfied with the Ravens performance yesterday. It will be nice to relax through a bye week and finally get to see a home playoff game for the first time in ages.


You should go, AR. There's nothing like a playoff atmosphere. I know the Ravens haven't enjoyed a home playoff game since 2006 when McNair lost to the Colts. No team in the AFC scares me AT ALL, which is weird because that in itself is scary, meaning anyone can beat anyone. Enjoy the BYE week, I've been spoiled over the last couple with seeing the Steelers play at home in January. We'll see how Baltimore responds to their homefield in the postseason. Realistically, you'll probably see us in the Divisional round with Cinci going to New England, but who knows, the Cinci/Houston game is anyone's to predict.


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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:53 am

Maui Tom wrote:Chris Mortensen @mortreport



Filed to ESPN: Irsay cleans house, including Bill and Chris Polian, per league source


I haven't had a chance to read the stories yet, but I haven't seen Caldwell's name in any of the headlines yet... does this clown still have a job?!
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