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Postby Yoda » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:10 am

Enigma869 wrote:
artist4perry wrote: If Tim Tebow is sincere then it is his right to express his religion freely.


Sure he does, but other people also have the right to tell Tebow to shut his pie hole and to stop pontificating about the "God" he prays to. The reality is that most people don't give a shit where he genuflects. Never in my life have I come across a football player get this much attention who sucks as bad as Tebow does. The guy is fucking DREADFUL as an NFL QB. I actually feel badly for the guy, watching him on the field, because he is sooooo fucking lost! He's as bad of a QB as I've ever seen in the NFL. If he's a genuinely nice person, good for him. There are a lot of genuinely nice people in the world who don't feel compelled to tell anyone who is forced to listen to them about their religion. For me, it's no different than someone babbling on and on about their political stances. Again, most people don't care to listen to it. Unfortunately, because of Tebow's platform as an NFL player, most who don't want to listen to it are still forced to! The reason that Tebow is so polarizing is that his fan club won't stick to just annointing the guy as a saint and the greatest human being who has ever lived. They have to take that next step and actually make the argument that the guy is a good QB, and he simply isn't remotely good.


Yeah, but notice who started the thread about him. I would say those who hate him for his religion needs to equally keep their pie holes shut as well. Seems fair to me.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:37 am

What sucks so hard about his QB'ing?


Short and sweet: EVERYTHING. Footwork, accuracy, mechanics, release, decision making, technique, vision & the ability to NOT read a defense. If you would sit there and think "I want to put together the WORST quarterback I can think of and all the variables that go into it" it's Tim Tebow. He can't hit the wide-side of the barn and is lucky to complete 6 lousy pass's a game (his QB rating is a LEAGUE WORSE 46% when the average is 70%) and I'm talking the most common pass's for a quarterback to make when you're simply trying to settle down a player.

Now, his entire game is running the football due to his strong build and stature. He's a gloried running back that happens to touch the football EVERY play. If they will just use him at his strength's and put him in an H-back/Full-back position, then maybe he will last more than 2 years in the league and build on it. Quarterbacking isn't his natural instinct, it's his bottom half that makes him a decent football player.

See for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fH8ihdEz4w

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Postby Angel » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:48 am

Yoda wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
artist4perry wrote: If Tim Tebow is sincere then it is his right to express his religion freely.


Sure he does, but other people also have the right to tell Tebow to shut his pie hole and to stop pontificating about the "God" he prays to. The reality is that most people don't give a shit where he genuflects. Never in my life have I come across a football player get this much attention who sucks as bad as Tebow does. The guy is fucking DREADFUL as an NFL QB. I actually feel badly for the guy, watching him on the field, because he is sooooo fucking lost! He's as bad of a QB as I've ever seen in the NFL. If he's a genuinely nice person, good for him. There are a lot of genuinely nice people in the world who don't feel compelled to tell anyone who is forced to listen to them about their religion. For me, it's no different than someone babbling on and on about their political stances. Again, most people don't care to listen to it. Unfortunately, because of Tebow's platform as an NFL player, most who don't want to listen to it are still forced to! The reason that Tebow is so polarizing is that his fan club won't stick to just annointing the guy as a saint and the greatest human being who has ever lived. They have to take that next step and actually make the argument that the guy is a good QB, and he simply isn't remotely good.


Yeah, but notice who started the thread about him. I would say those who hate him for his religion needs to equally keep their pie holes shut as well. Seems fair to me.


Very good point.
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Postby Duncan » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:02 am

artist4perry wrote:Most idols have feet of clay, and crumble. If Tim Tebow is sincere then it is his right to express his religion freely. Check the first amendment. :wink: I don't idolize anyone to think that as humans we cannot err. For all have sinned and have come short of the glory of God. :wink:

But I have to agree with Angel on one thing........Rip be careful your good nature is not changed by your new lifestyle. :(


I haven't read all of this thread because I thought it was a football thread that I wouldn't understand. I have no idea who this guy is and I'm going to go back and read it all, but on this single point, whether is someone is sincere or not ,has nothing to to with their right to free speech. If fact, sincerity is a barrier to free speech. Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.
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Postby verslibre » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:40 am

Duncan wrote:Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.


Kind of like Europeans and humility.
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Postby Angel » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:42 am

verslibre wrote:
Duncan wrote:Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.


Kind of like Europeans and humility.


....and toothpaste. (or so I've heard)
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:54 am

Yoda wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
artist4perry wrote: If Tim Tebow is sincere then it is his right to express his religion freely.


Sure he does, but other people also have the right to tell Tebow to shut his pie hole and to stop pontificating about the "God" he prays to. The reality is that most people don't give a shit where he genuflects. Never in my life have I come across a football player get this much attention who sucks as bad as Tebow does. The guy is fucking DREADFUL as an NFL QB. I actually feel badly for the guy, watching him on the field, because he is sooooo fucking lost! He's as bad of a QB as I've ever seen in the NFL. If he's a genuinely nice person, good for him. There are a lot of genuinely nice people in the world who don't feel compelled to tell anyone who is forced to listen to them about their religion. For me, it's no different than someone babbling on and on about their political stances. Again, most people don't care to listen to it. Unfortunately, because of Tebow's platform as an NFL player, most who don't want to listen to it are still forced to! The reason that Tebow is so polarizing is that his fan club won't stick to just annointing the guy as a saint and the greatest human being who has ever lived. They have to take that next step and actually make the argument that the guy is a good QB, and he simply isn't remotely good.


Yeah, but notice who started the thread about him. I would say those who hate him for his religion needs to equally keep their pie holes shut as well. Seems fair to me.


You shut YO pie hole, you fat little green motha-FUCKA! Even the Force ended up having a scientific explanation. So does anything that happens in foo-ball.

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Postby verslibre » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:58 am

Rip Rokken wrote:Even the Force ended up having a scientific explanation.


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Postby Angel » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:36 am

Rip Rokken wrote:T-Bowl Admits he Sucks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70P1fcLwluE

Yep, he's humble for sure! I love it!
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Postby Duncan » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:38 am

verslibre wrote:
Duncan wrote:Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.


Kind of like Europeans and humility.


Oh, the irony!
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:40 am

Angel wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Duncan wrote:Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.


Kind of like Europeans and humility.


....and toothpaste. (or so I've heard)

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Postby parfait » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:48 am

Angel wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Duncan wrote:Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.


Kind of like Europeans and humility.


....and toothpaste. (or so I've heard)


You need to travel more.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:27 am

parfait wrote:
Angel wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Duncan wrote:Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.


Kind of like Europeans and humility.


....and toothpaste. (or so I've heard)


You need to travel more.


Why subject one's self to your kind? I like corresponding on the internet......can't smell ya that way. :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby Duncan » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:44 am

steveo777 wrote:
parfait wrote:
Angel wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Duncan wrote:Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.


Kind of like Europeans and humility.


....and toothpaste. (or so I've heard)


You need to travel more.


Why subject one's self to your kind? I like corresponding on the internet......can't smell ya that way. :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


Good work, from a concept to ignorance/racism in two american posts.
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Postby Angel » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:51 am

Duncan wrote:Good work, from a concept to ignorance/racism in two american posts.

....said the European that managed to do it in one.
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:31 pm

Foosball is the Devil!!! :wink:
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:32 pm

Angel wrote:
Duncan wrote:Good work, from a concept to ignorance/racism in two american posts.

....said the European that managed to do it in one.

Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.





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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:01 pm

artist4perry wrote:
Angel wrote:
Duncan wrote:Good work, from a concept to ignorance/racism in two american posts.

....said the European that managed to do it in one.

Ever heard of irony? No, of course not, you're Americans.





:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I've heard of "ironing" it sucked when my wife was away for a couple weeks! :shock: :wink:
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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:03 am

TIM TEBOW WOULD KILL ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS! :shock:
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Postby Babyblue » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:28 am

ScarabGator wrote:TIM TEBOW WOULD KILL ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS! :shock:



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Postby scarygirl » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:24 am

Even as a Christian I found the SNL skit kind of funny. Just to be on the safe side, I now walk around with an umbrella in case god decides to douse me with flaming poo. :lol:

God forbid anyone make fun of Muslims praying to Allah six times a day. :x If that were to happen, they would be throwing out FATWAS faster than Journey changes lead singers.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:16 am

ScarabGator wrote:TIM TEBOW WOULD KILL ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS! :shock:


So what you're saying is, he prays to the Old Testament? Makes sense now.
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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:45 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:TIM TEBOW WOULD KILL ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS! :shock:


So what you're saying is, he prays to the Old Testament? Makes sense now.


He prays to whatever Testament he wants to! We can joke about the guy's religion because obviously since his University of Florida days its somethings hes had to contend with. Its a complete shame that the only dirt people can pull up on him is A)Maintaing a good Christian life thanks to a good Chistian upbringing B) Maintaining his virginity until his wedding day 3) He is Pro-Life 4) He gets down on a knee and thanks God after a good play, and as a Florida supporter this is nothing new that he started in the NFL. Go back and watch his college years, all the way back to his first true freshman game. Hell, even old high school games. Hes always "Tebowed".
For all of this he definetly deserves to be hung from an old oak tree, wild west style.
Just always remember the following though and just maybe he will let you live:

•Life doesn't give Tim Tebow lemons. Life asks him which fruit he wants.
•Tim Tebow doesn't bowl strikes, he just knocks down one pin and the other nine faint.
•Tim Tebow can eat just one Lay's Potato Chip. Don't tell Tim what he can't do.
•There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Tim Tebow lives in Florida.
•God wanted to create the world in 10 days, Tim Tebow gave him 6.
•What color is Tim Tebow's blood? Trick question. Tim Tebow does not bleed.
•It takes Tim Tebow 20 minutes to watch 60 Minutes.
•Bo knows football. Bo knows baseball. Bo does not know Tim Tebow.
•Tim Tebow's tears can cure cancer ... but he's never cried. Ever.
•Tim Tebow is so fast, he can run around the Earth and stiff-arm himself in the back.
•The primary ingredient in Red Bull is Tim Tebow's sweat.
•'Icy-Hot' is too weak for Tim Tebow. After a game, Tim Tebow rubs his muscles down with liquid-hot magma.
•On a hot day, you can find Tim Tebow swimming in Lake Alice and biting the alligators.
•When Tim Tebow does a pushup, he isn't lifting himself up, he's pushing the Earth down.
•If at first you don't succeed, you're not Tim Tebow.
•Superman's weakness is Kryptonite. Tim Tebow laughs at Superman for having a weakness.
•Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Tim Tebow pajamas.
•Chuck Norris wears Tim Tebow pajamas.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:01 am

Its a complete shame that the only dirt people can pull up on him is A)Maintaing a good Christian life thanks to a good Chistian upbringing B) Maintaining his virginity until his wedding day 3) He is Pro-Life 4) He gets down on a knee and thanks God after a good play, and as a Florida supporter this is nothing new that he started in the NFL. Go back and watch his college years, all the way back to his first true freshman game. Hell, even old high school games. Hes always "Tebowed".


Huh? I think John said it best. His religious antics is NO different than if he would go out and throw a politic rant on his beliefs on Red and Blue. It's SIMPLE. There's a time and place for it and most athletes bring religion into play when it comes to sports. Tebow simply abuses it (he's obviously allowed to) but many people simply aren't interested in seeing that being displayed at the level Tebow does. In fact, you can thank Tebow for how much people resent that because he sure does understand the baggage it can cause and knows EXACTLY when the camera is on him. It was a problem when he wore "John 3:16" on his eye paint and it's posing a problem now. Just know that some people aren't too interested in how he goes about his beliefs. It's great of a man he is, but I think it's common sense on how people (including those around the NFL) will react to it!

Now, as far as saying "it's a complete shame that the only dirt people can come up with is his maintaining a good Christian life" that's not true. Only Tebow-worshippers think that. I can think of 1 million things off the top of my head the dirt on the guy as an NFL quarterback. I'm fine with Tebow's personal life, I'm strictly football but givin' how BAD Tebow really is as an NFL QB, the way he goes about his faith on the field during his terrible performances open that up for criticism. Again, his Christian life has no baring on how bad of a quarterback he is. That's what bothers me, the press he receives for simply not being anywhere NEAR good. If he didn't "Tebow" and if he wasn't such a publicized figure in college (because of his outcry in religion) then he'd receive 0 press on his on-field abilities. Tim Tebow is a great debate for criticism, hence, CRITICS.

•Tim Tebow's tears can cure cancer ... but he's never cried. Ever.


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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:17 am

Thats his heart man. I love his passion. The "tears" pic reminds me of the glory days he brought to us Gator fans. We will always hold him dear to our hearts, and we'd probably go to war for him. I know I would.
As far as the "bad QB" comment you made how in the hell can a reasonable football fan, like yourself-I thought, call him all of this after one half a season as a starter??? Does he not even get a learning curve? Hells Bells, we know hes playing poorly right now but you gotta remember. He is a 2nd year player who just became a starter midway thru this season. He didnt even get much of a training camp due to the lockout. I hate to tell you YJ, but the oddity is QB's who excel in the rookie year. For every Matt Ryan there is a Tebow, Stafford, on and on that didnt, although Tebow has won enough games to make it to the playoffs. In the NFL does bad QBs always make it to the playoffs??????
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:26 am

ScarabGator wrote:Thats his heart man. I love his passion. The "tears" pic reminds me of the glory days he brought to us Gator fans. We will always hold him dear to our hearts, and we'd probably go to war for him. I know I would.
As far as the "bad QB" comment you made how in the hell can a reasonable football fan, like yourself-I thought, call him all of this after one half a season as a starter??? Does he not even get a learning curve? Hells Bells, we know hes playing poorly right now but you gotta remember. He is a 2nd year player who just became a starter midway thru this season. He didnt even get much of a training camp due to the lockout. I hate to tell you YJ, but the oddity is QB's who excel in the rookie year. For every Matt Ryan there is a Tebow, Stafford, on and on that didnt, although Tebow has won enough games to make it to the playoffs. In the NFL does bad QBs always make it to the playoffs??????


You do realize Tim Tebow isn't a rookie, right? (You can't use the lockout argument for your debate. Tebow DID have training camp last season but this years class of rookies didn't. Result? Rookie quarterback's SMASHING long-league records and putting up 4,000+ passing yards. NO EXCUSE for Timmy and the lockout, they all had to go through it, including veterans.)

He had all last season to work on his game and couldn't even beat out Brady Quinn as the SECOND QB to backup Kyle Orton. There's a reason for that. Denver was so bad, they just threw Tebow in for the out-cry of the fans (and Fox to save his job) and because of the relentless nature of his defense in that winning streak, his true colors have now been shown, putting up the most PUTRID numbers ever as a starting NFL QB. He's simply a TERRIBLE, HIDEOUS quarterback. I understand your love for him at Florida, no one can take that away from you, but it's quite obvious that Tim Tebow is relevant only because the critics want to ride out his story as long as they can because he probably won't be in the leauge much longer playing under center.

Even John Elway and John Fox aren't sold on Tim Tebow and his performances (Brady Quinn is even getting snaps in this week due to Tebow's disgusting performances in recent weeks: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... for-quinn/.)

Broncos open to using Tebow's backup
By Dejan Kovacevic, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Are the Denver Broncos set to surprise the Steelers with a quarterback switch?

That was the buzz at Denver's training facility Friday after word emerged that Tim Tebow had been giving up some first-team practice snaps to backup Brady Quinn, though no one would confirm it. Practice has been off-limits to reporters all week.

Tebow will be the Broncos' starter Sunday, coach John Fox made clear again yesterday. And Fox continued to brush off questions about replacing Tebow with Quinn if Tebow struggles as he did in the team's final three games, all losses.

"I don't deal in hypotheticals," Fox said. "We expect our starters to play well, always."

But Fox then was asked how he could use Quinn, given that Quinn hasn't appeared in an NFL game since Dec. 20, 2009, while with the Cleveland Browns.

"He's on the football team," Fox said of Quinn, "and everybody on the team's ready. If for some reason an injury occurs or something happens, then it's the next man up. That won't change any more this week than it has all season."

Tebow speaks to the media only on Wednesdays of a game week, but he appeared to be in excellent spirits after practice and told the Tribune-Review in a brief discussion, "I'm really looking forward to this."

Quinn did speak with the media and drew quite a crowd at his stall. He denied that he had taken extra snaps or that coaches had told him to be prepared to enter Sunday, at least any more than usual. He later denied, in a text to NFL.com, a Pro Football Talk report that he had split snaps with Tebow all week.

"I'm as ready as you can be," Quinn said after practice. "Obviously, the backup doesn't get many reps, if any, so you'll just try to go out there and do the best you can when you get the opportunity."

Quinn's insertion would carry an air of desperation. In four years with the Browns - Denver acquired him via trade in March 2010 - he made only 12 starts and completed 52 percent of his passes with 10 touchdowns, nine interceptions and 20 sacks.

Over the final three games of the regular season, Tebow completed 30 of 73 passes for 439 yards with one touchdown and four interceptions. That included a 6 for 22, 60-yard output in the final game against Kansas City, one that prompted Denver's executive vice president and Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway to publicly admonish Tebow to "pull the trigger" and trust his arm.

Also yesterday, Denver announced that strong safety Brian Dawkins, a 16-year veteran and eight-time Pro Bowl selection, will not play because of a neck injury. Starting fullback Spencer Larsen is doubtful because of a knee injury.

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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:23 am

Yes, I know hes not a rookie man, if you re-read my post you will clearly see where I typed in "2nd year"
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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:27 am

OK YJ, its obvious you hate Tebow, wouldnt piss on him if he were on fire. Hate him for even having the nerve to call himself a football player. Maybe after tomorrow you will feel different. Maybe Tebow will be the force that sends your steelers home early.....4:30pm....the time of one man's destiny, the time for a formal super power to wilt like a 3 month old rose. No worrys tho mate (in andrews words-wow! a Florida-Georgia Redneck speaking australian!) I wont bust your balls about it if it happens.
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Postby parfait » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:39 am

scarygirl wrote:Even as a Christian I found the SNL skit kind of funny. Just to be on the safe side, I now walk around with an umbrella in case god decides to douse me with flaming poo. :lol:

God forbid anyone make fun of Muslims praying to Allah six times a day. :x If that were to happen, they would be throwing out FATWAS faster than Journey changes lead singers.


One doesn't mess with muslims. They got God on their side. Tebow seems like a faggot. You got to be incredibly ignorant if you think that some God had anything to do with you scoring a goal/point.
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