JOURNEY Drummer Arrested For Allegedly Assaulting His Girl.

[Michigan Girl]

That's a great pic of Deen ...one of the best I've seen!!
It actually looks better than his publicity shots ...he
looks rested, healthy and younger ...love the hair!!

I dunno...those eyes look pretty glassy to me...

Yeah ...a touch, I suppose. But still much better than
the last publicity shots w/the spiked hair, overly made~up
face and just a skosh gaunt. I'm sure that's the look
they were going for, goth, but I'm not a fan of that look!!
He looks filled out and healthy, here.

[Red13JoePa]

If everyone would take their time reading the initial blog they will see that the phone grabbing incident reportedly occurred outside the house after the alleged physical assault had happened inside the house. The guy wasn't hit with a bail of $52,000 for simply grabbing a cellphone.

K
Now we'll just have to wait for it to play out in court.

Why wait when we can start rumors that Castronovo is back on drugs?

[Don]

If everyone would take their time reading the initial blog they will see that the phone grabbing incident reportedly occurred outside the house after the alleged physical assault had happened inside the house. The guy wasn't hit with a bail of $52,000 for simply grabbing a cellphone.

K
Now we'll just have to wait for it to play out in court.

Why wait when we can start rumors that Castronovo is back on drugs?

If he is, I guess that could work as part of his defense...well, that and being Italian.

[strangegrey]

Wonder who is cringing more? Arnel or Jonathon?

Steve Perry!

No he's thanking Jesus he left this train wreck years ago!

Who wouldnt....but I disagree in so far as he has a vested interest in journey...and he wouldn't be involved in so many remasters and rereleases of Perry-era Journey without having a vested interest in how the band is currently viewed. He truly cares about the Legacy left behind...but there's more:

The dirty little secret here is that Perry has been able maintain an income stream following his departure from Journey...prior to that 10 year window, he got a cut of what the dipshits did. Now, he just gets paid for all these remasters....what happens to the sales of these remasters if Nealpoleon, the fairy and the hired help drive Journey into the ditch?? Do you honestly think Perry is going to go..."yay! See I told you they'd fuck up without me!!" bullshit, that's a juvenile, myopic view. He's perfectly happy with what journey is doing right now. His music lives on and his royalty checks keep rolling in.

The problem here is that at what point do we go from 'ah they're just rock stars..they can smack around their woman a little.' to 'this is a disgusting act and Deen deserves everything he gets'....

Frankly, from my pov, any man that's enough of a cowardly scumbag to get himself arrested for spousal abuse, no matter what the level of severity...deserves his fingernails torn off with neednose pliers...and then they should be forcibly fed down his urethra. I love Dan/St John, and miss him around here, but he needs to stop defending the assholes in this band...his initial comments defending Deen were disgusting....

[Don]

Wonder who is cringing more? Arnel or Jonathon?

Steve Perry!

No he's thanking Jesus he left this train wreck years ago!

Who wouldnt....but I disagree in so far as he has a vested interest in journey...and he wouldn't be involved in so many remasters and rereleases of Perry-era Journey without having a vested interest in how the band is currently viewed. He truly cares about the Legacy left behind...but there's more:

The dirty little secret here is that Perry has been able maintain an income stream following his departure from Journey...prior to that 10 year window, he got a cut of what the dipshits did. Now, he just gets paid for all these remasters....what happens to the sales of these remasters if Nealpoleon, the fairy and the hired help drive Journey into the ditch?? Do you honestly think Perry is going to go..."yay! See I told you they'd fuck up without me!!" bullshit, that's a juvenile, myopic view. He's perfectly happy with what journey is doing right now. His music lives on and his royalty checks keep rolling in.

The problem here is that at what point do we go from 'ah they're just rock stars..they can smack around their woman a little.' to 'this is a disgusting act and Deen deserves everything he gets'....

Frankly, from my pov, any man that's enough of a cowardly scumbag to get himself arrested for spousal abuse, no matter what the level of severity...deserves his fingernails torn off with neednose pliers...and then they should be forcibly fed down his urethra. I love Dan/St John, and miss him around here, but he needs to stop defending the assholes in this band...his initial comments defending Deen were disgusting....

Journey's Greatest Hits has seen resurgence on the charts again this month. The CD is in the top 50 and the Digital download is in the top 25. Having not released anything original over the last decade, I think Perry or the old time Journey members can't ask for anything more than having at least one evergreen title out there on the charts, over 30 years after release.

[SF-Dano]

If everyone would take their time reading the initial blog they will see that the phone grabbing incident reportedly occurred outside the house after the alleged physical assault had happened inside the house. The guy wasn't hit with a bail of $52,000 for simply grabbing a cellphone.

K
Now we'll just have to wait for it to play out in court.

Why? Seems we have already convicted the guy here. Because we have all the facts and are totally impartial.

[ebake02]

Deen off the wagon? In all seriousness though, I have to go with St. John on this one. There is a gross double standard with domestic violence laws in this country. It doesn't matter who called the cops and who the guilty party is, the guy almost always gets the shaft. Although we don't have all the facts, I suspect this was just another argument and his girlfriend is a little too dramatic.

[strangegrey]

If everyone would take their time reading the initial blog they will see that the phone grabbing incident reportedly occurred outside the house after the alleged physical assault had happened inside the house. The guy wasn't hit with a bail of $52,000 for simply grabbing a cellphone.

K
Now we'll just have to wait for it to play out in court.

Why? Seems we have already convicted the guy here. Because we have all the facts and are totally impartial.

Where there's smoke theres fire, when it comes to spousal abuse cases....not many woman will call the police on a man they're with...so complaints are rarely made lightly...

Defending Deen in this case is a bit of a head scratcher...

[Don]

Around 70% percent of abuse allegations are substantiated. That number jumps into the upper 80s when there has been a history of substance abuse.

Yet here, because of fandom or a few minutes spent at meet and greets, the perception seems to be that this has to automatically be the woman's fault as Deen is just too good of a guy to do something of this nature.

Hey look, we all want this to be nothing more than a false accusation but the numbers don't favor Deen. The overwhelming possibility of a bad thing having been done here by Castronovo has to realized.

[strangegrey]

Like I said, crack kills......



.....relationships.

[Rockindeano]

Around 70% percent of abuse allegations are substantiated. That number jumps into the upper 80s when there has been a history of substance abuse.

Yet here, because of fandom or a few minutes spent at meet and greets, the perception seems to be that this has to automatically be the woman's fault as Deen is just too good of a guy to do something of this nature.

Hey look, we all want this to be nothing more than a false accusation but the numbers don't favor Deen. The overwhelming possibility of a bad thing having been done here by Castronovo has to realized.

I got to know this guy. He is anything but a "good guy." During my time "knowing" him, he knifed in the back, Augeri(multiple times, Soto (multiple times), and another band member whom i won't name. I hate Deen. Fuck you Deen, you make up wearing crackhead.

[annie89509]

I have a heavy heart for any type of child or animal abuse. Anything else, I try to reserve judgment.

[Archetype]

Around 70% percent of abuse allegations are substantiated. That number jumps into the upper 80s when there has been a history of substance abuse.

Yet here, because of fandom or a few minutes spent at meet and greets, the perception seems to be that this has to automatically be the woman's fault as Deen is just too good of a guy to do something of this nature.

Hey look, we all want this to be nothing more than a false accusation but the numbers don't favor Deen. The overwhelming possibility of a bad thing having been done here by Castronovo has to realized.

I got to know this guy. He is anything but a "good guy." During my time "knowing" him, he knifed in the back, Augeri(multiple times, Soto (multiple times), and another band member whom i won't name. I hate Deen. Fuck you Deen, you make up wearing crackhead.

Why won't you name the other one?

[RPM]

Comparing this to the cover up and abetting of Child rape at penn state is ludicrous.
Its not funny.

LOL this place will be BATHING itself in Shadenfreude over this.

Journey is a mini Penn St.

It will start with some criticism of Castronovo.

Then the bashing will take a sharp turn towards Schon.

"LOOK WHAT NEAL'S PERSONAL DRUMMER DID!!!! HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!!"

[Andrew]

Saint John posted this @WTF:

"Let me be the first to stand up and denounce this ridiculous arrest. He grabbed a fucking cell phone from his girlfriend. Big God damn deal. During the course of many relationships, I've been slapped, kicked, punched, threatened and a few other pleasantries. The laws are simply rigged to shit on men and we're not hysterical crybabies that dial 911 for the simplest of shit. There's no "equality" in this country. Minorities and women, especially minority women, have it made. Unless I see his bimbo girlfriend with a black eye or some missing fucking teeth, I think SHE should be arrested for misuse of a 911 call. People are just fucking pathetic with some of these 911 calls, and she seems to fall into that category. Maybe I'm wrong, and we'll see pictures of her face showing that Deen belted out the Line Of Fire drumming on her grill, but I fucking doubt it. Dump her, dude, and find someone that can handle a little passion in the relationship. "Wah wah wah ... I'm calling my daddy on you, Deen."

If SJ wants his views posted here he can damn well post them himself - others can refrain from doing his work for him thanks.

[Ehwmatt]

Saint John posted this @WTF:

"Let me be the first to stand up and denounce this ridiculous arrest. He grabbed a fucking cell phone from his girlfriend. Big God damn deal. During the course of many relationships, I've been slapped, kicked, punched, threatened and a few other pleasantries. The laws are simply rigged to shit on men and we're not hysterical crybabies that dial 911 for the simplest of shit. There's no "equality" in this country. Minorities and women, especially minority women, have it made. Unless I see his bimbo girlfriend with a black eye or some missing fucking teeth, I think SHE should be arrested for misuse of a 911 call. People are just fucking pathetic with some of these 911 calls, and she seems to fall into that category. Maybe I'm wrong, and we'll see pictures of her face showing that Deen belted out the Line Of Fire drumming on her grill, but I fucking doubt it. Dump her, dude, and find someone that can handle a little passion in the relationship. "Wah wah wah ... I'm calling my daddy on you, Deen."

If SJ wants his views posted here he can damn well post them himself - others can refrain from doing his work for him thanks.

[Art Vandelay]

Around 70% percent of abuse allegations are substantiated. That number jumps into the upper 80s when there has been a history of substance abuse.

Yet here, because of fandom or a few minutes spent at meet and greets, the perception seems to be that this has to automatically be the woman's fault as Deen is just too good of a guy to do something of this nature.

Hey look, we all want this to be nothing more than a false accusation but the numbers don't favor Deen. The overwhelming possibility of a bad thing having been done here by Castronovo has to realized.

I got to know this guy. He is anything but a "good guy." During my time "knowing" him, he knifed in the back, Augeri(multiple times, Soto (multiple times), and another band member whom i won't name. I hate Deen. Fuck you Deen, you make up wearing crackhead.

Dude, your avatar is killing me....best one yet!

[Red13JoePa]

Comparing this to the cover up and abetting of Child rape at penn state is ludicrous.
Its not funny.

LOL this place will be BATHING itself in Shadenfreude over this.

Journey is a mini Penn St.

It will start with some criticism of Castronovo.

Then the bashing will take a sharp turn towards Schon.

"LOOK WHAT NEAL'S PERSONAL DRUMMER DID!!!! HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!!"

Oh button the fuck up.

[Behshad]

Comparing this to the cover up and abetting of Child rape at penn state is ludicrous.
Its not funny.

LOL this place will be BATHING itself in Shadenfreude over this.

Journey is a mini Penn St.

It will start with some criticism of Castronovo.

Then the bashing will take a sharp turn towards Schon.

"LOOK WHAT NEAL'S PERSONAL DRUMMER DID!!!! HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!!"

Oh button the fuck up.

[Red13JoePa]

LOL and that was from ME not Saint John.

[Behshad]

LOL and that was from ME not Saint John.

[Onestepper]

Hey the drummer is beating up his woman, and the lead guitarist is stealing another man's wife.

In other words, they really are a rock and roll band...

[MCC620]

Hey the drummer is beating up his woman, and the lead guitarist is stealing another man's wife.

In other words, they really are a rock and roll band...

except that they are about 30 years too late with this behavior.....

[steveo777]

Hey the drummer is beating up his woman, and the lead guitarist is stealing another man's wife.

In other words, they really are a rock and roll band...

Now they just need to trash some hotel rooms and cause some riots in big venues.

[Rockindeano]

Hey the drummer is beating up his woman, and the lead guitarist is stealing another man's wife.

In other words, they really are a rock and roll band...

Now they just need to trash some hotel rooms and cause some riots in big venues.

You mean small theaters. Dude, big venues are places Journey goes to WATCH real bands perform in. They themselves play wineries and casinos. Arenas, lmao. You clowns known as Journey fans embarrass yourselves more and more each day. it's almost as bad as Deb sating Mr Big is a quality band.

[Eric]

You mean small theaters. Dude, big venues are places Journey goes to WATCH real bands perform in. They themselves play wineries and casinos. Arenas, lmao. You clowns known as Journey fans embarrass yourselves more and more each day. it's almost as bad as Deb sating Mr Big is a quality band.

They are playing in front of way more people than when they let you tag along for a second...and you didn't have that opinion then.

To find Schon's relationships silly or be disgusted over this arrest is real...but to pretend they aren't doing very well right now hurts the credibility of anything you say.

[Don]

You mean small theaters. Dude, big venues are places Journey goes to WATCH real bands perform in. They themselves play wineries and casinos. Arenas, lmao. You clowns known as Journey fans embarrass yourselves more and more each day. it's almost as bad as Deb sating Mr Big is a quality band.

They are playing in front of way more people than when they let you tag along for a second...and you didn't have that opinion then.

To find Schon's relationships silly or be disgusted over this arrest is real...but to pretend they aren't doing very well right now hurts the credibility of anything you say.

While not a bad tour by any means, the tour last year wasn't quite as successful as the 2008 one. During the 2008 tour, they sold out around 60% of their shows. This past year, the band sold about 16% of their gigs. That's quite a drop. They increased their tour dates by half but only increased their gross profit by 7%. What makes it worse is that Pineda also suffered a torn ACL out of the deal when he fell off the stage; he only started rehabbing it last month it seems so I can't imagine the band having a heavy schedule again this summer.

[Rockindeano]

You mean small theaters. Dude, big venues are places Journey goes to WATCH real bands perform in. They themselves play wineries and casinos. Arenas, lmao. You clowns known as Journey fans embarrass yourselves more and more each day. it's almost as bad as Deb sating Mr Big is a quality band.

They are playing in front of way more people than when they let you tag along for a second...and you didn't have that opinion then.

To find Schon's relationships silly or be disgusted over this arrest is real...but to pretend they aren't doing very well right now hurts the credibility of anything you say.

Dude, if you really think they "are doing well" now, then we are on completely different pages. They are not a concert beast as you would claim them to be. First off, going out in three band packages and selling out 15% of the venues? Ok dude, spin it however you wish, that is shit.

[Rockindeano]

hurts the credibility of anything you say.

You're right, I have absolutely zero credibility about anything I say about Journey. That's cool. I don't want any, thank you.

[Eric]

You mean small theaters. Dude, big venues are places Journey goes to WATCH real bands perform in. They themselves play wineries and casinos. Arenas, lmao. You clowns known as Journey fans embarrass yourselves more and more each day. it's almost as bad as Deb sating Mr Big is a quality band.

They are playing in front of way more people than when they let you tag along for a second...and you didn't have that opinion then.

To find Schon's relationships silly or be disgusted over this arrest is real...but to pretend they aren't doing very well right now hurts the credibility of anything you say.

Dude, if you really think they "are doing well" now, then we are on completely different pages. They are not a concert beast as you would claim them to be. First off, going out in three band packages and selling out 15% of the venues? Ok dude, spin it however you wish, that is shit.

They averaged a little over 6k for the Generations Tour and were the opener on the Lippard tour. Looking at their attendance since then in 08, 09, 11 - its much better (Don is right in '08 it was the strongest). You are bitter about their treatment of you, I get that, but they are more successful now than at anytime '98 - '06 when you liked them, followed them and defended them.