These fucking idiots are out of control....

[verslibre]

So now you have to obtain a permit to throw a ball "in pre-designated areas"?

I know the county's broke (just like the state), but...sheesh.

[yulog]

LA is such a mess

[brandonx76]

That is a fucking joke...

[verslibre]

[Monker]

When are we gonna rise up and stop this fucking nonsense....jeezLouise...get fucking real!

LA County OKs $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbee On Beaches

KCAL 9 - CBS http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/ ... n-beaches/

2/8/2011

CBS Los Angeles

Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:17:12 PM by MrShoop

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — When you head down to the beach for a little fun this summer, county officials want you to leave the pigskin at home.

The Board of Supervisors this week agreed to raise fines to up to $1,000 for anyone who throws a football or a Frisbee on any beach in Los Angeles County.


In passing the 37-page ordinance on Tuesday, officials sought to outline responsibilities for law enforcement and other public agencies while also providing clarification on beach-goer activities that could potentially disrupt or even injure the public.

The updated rules now prohibit “any person to cast, toss, throw, kick or roll” any object other than a beach ball or volleyball “upon or over any beach” between Memorial Day and Labor Day.

Exceptions allow for ball-throwing in predesignated areas, when a person obtains a permit, or playing water polo “in or over the Pacific Ocean”.

However, during the winter off-season, the new rules will be relaxed.

Officials warned that any activities that could potentially “any person or property on or near the beach” should not be allowed during the peak summer season.

Your kids could also end up costing you big bucks: the ordinance also prohibits digging any hole deeper than 18 inches into the sand except where permission is granted for film and TV production services only.

Has there been a rash of frisbee throwers breaking their ankles by falling into 19 inch holes dug into the sand? Has there been a sudden increase in the number of people dying from a thrown football on a beach?

I can understand that some idiots guacamole may have been spilled or gotten sand in it by some unruly beachgoers on a beach somewhere at somepoint, but lets get real folks. We are approaching insanity if we haven't reached it already.

Well, how many beaches in CA have you been to?

When I was there, years ago, the beaches were normally so busy at times you could hardly find room to walk. Throwing footballs about like that could actually be dangerous...so I could see why they would do this for public safety.

[rsimpson]

Would be sad if it was actually true.

The Department of Beaches and Harbors phone rang and rang Thursday.

Upset callers and reporters checked in from throughout the country. One reporter was in London.

"Why in the world would county officials ban Frisbee tossing on Los Angeles beaches?" they asked.

The trouble was, nobody had.

KCBS/KCAL had incorrectly reported that "LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches."

And like a virus, the story spread through the Internet, Facebook sites and Twitter. It showed up on the Drudge Report and other news websites - including dailybreeze.com

"I think the people of Los Angeles need to flip the finger to the idiots in the legislature who pass these antisocial laws and ordinances in order to fill the local city's coffers with the people's money," Robert Karol wrote on the Beaches and Harbor's Facebook site. "Fines for tossing a Frisbee or football? What about tossing the idiots out on their derriere who passed this ordinance?"

Down at Redondo Beach, residents provided with bad information from a reporter out working the "Frisbee ban" story rightly called the law ridiculous.

"That's un-American," Redondo Beach resident Kim Fine said. "What are families going to do with their kids at the beach? We are encourage kids to get more exercise and spend time with their families. This is counterproductive."

"It's stupid, it's too much
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control," said Kathy Foley of Redondo Beach. "That's what kids do - they play with Frisbees and footballs and dig holes."

It was all anger for nothing. The news report wasn't just incorrect, it was completely backward. County beach officials and the Board of Supervisors actually made it easier this week to play soccer, football, tennis and Frisbee on the sand.

An ordinance already in place, though not really enforced, since the 1980s actually banned such activities on the beach, said Santos Kreimann, the county's director of Beaches and Harbors.

"If somebody wanted to have a beach soccer tournament, the ordinance prohibited that, so we had to change that," Kreimann said.

With so many people wanting to take up sand sports like beach soccer or tennis, and play among the millions who prefer to soak up the sun or build sand castles, the agency came up with a plan to keep everybody safe.

"The facts of the matter are that the original ordinance prohibited ball playing on the beach," Kreimann said. "Our intent was to loosen those restrictions and to allow more ball playing on the beach. It never prohibited throwing a football or throwing a Frisbee."

The new ordinance declares that anyone can kick a ball or swat a tennis ball anywhere on the beach during the winter.

When beaches are crowded in the summer, from Memorial Day to Labor Day, lifeguards will designate areas where the games can be played "generally away from the crowd," Kreimann said.

Lifeguards can stop a game if it threatens safety in crowded areas. They can give a ticket to people who ignore them.

But as far as the $1,000 fines the media reported for kicking a ball, that also was wrong.

A first infraction for playing in the nondesignated area can be up to $100. A second infraction is $200, and a third can be up to $500 in a 12-month period.

But Kreimann said lifeguards and code enforcement officers aren't about to become beach Scrooges.

"We don't go out and look for violators," he said. "We've never issued a ticket. We've never done that. We understand that people like to recreate differently. We encourage that. That's what the beaches are for."

The ordinance does have some $1,000 fines written into it. You can't be nude, shoot a gun or swim or surf in hazardous conditions or prohibited areas.

Staff Writer Douglas Morino contributed to this article.

larry.altman@dailybreeze.com

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[Don]

I know Laguna Beach has an ordinance against throwing baseballs on the beach. Their beaches don't have a lot of space between the the cliff face and the water so it makes sense, especially with a baseball. I think the fine there is 50 dollars if I remember right and it is enforced.

[Monker]

I know Laguna Beach has an ordinance against throwing baseballs on the beach. Their beaches don't have a lot of space between the the cliff face and the water so it makes sense, especially with a baseball. I think the fine there is 50 dollars if I remember right and it is enforced.

LOL....exactly where I was talking about.