I wonder what we can expect from the next Journey album?

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Postby Don » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:02 am

Neal said somewhere a few months back that 2011 and 2012 where to be exclusively for promoting Eclipse, (hence the the release of Resonate as a single nine months after Eclipse debuted) so don't look for anything new until after that, if ever.
Cain has said more than once that Eclipse was only possible because of the success of Revelation.

I would look for a live CD or even an EP of Augeri era tunes if anything.
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Postby brywool » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:06 am

I am really doubting a new album from Journey. I have a feeling after everything that's gone on, the band may actually be done. Perry? God, people, give it up.
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Postby Don » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:19 am

brywool wrote:I am really doubting a new album from Journey. I have a feeling after everything that's gone on, the band may actually be done. Perry? God, people, give it up.


I'll tell you what was really disappointing (for me anyway). Them not playing anything new besides COH at the Hollywood Bowl. Anything Is Possible had been on the A/C chart for six weeks and didn't get played even once live.
All the talk about how they were going to play what they wanted was just that, talk. Well, with the exception of La Do Da. How that got put in the set-list the last half of the tour is beyond me. Nothing from Revelation, one song from Eclipse yet they have room for a 35 year old song that absolutely no one is clamoring for.

Now, if Journey does go away and it's the end, I see no reason to lament. The group provided some great music during its run in the late 70s/early 80s. So much so that those tunes have overshadowed anything they have done the rest of their career as far as gaining public acknowledgement when it comes to new material.

This is proven further by their setlist which (when I saw them last) only contained one song written after 1988.

CDs and DVDs are wonderful media forms and for us the fans, with these at our disposal Journey (and many of its peers) will never truly be gone no matter what their decision is in the future as far as hanging it up or pressing on.
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Postby jrnyjetster » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:03 am

Don wrote:
I'll tell you what was really disappointing (for me anyway). Them not playing anything new besides COH at the Hollywood Bowl. Anything Is Possible had been on the A/C chart for six weeks and didn't get played even once live.
All the talk about how they were going to play what they wanted was just that, talk. Well, with the exception of La Do Da. How that got put in the set-list the last half of the tour is beyond me. Nothing from Revelation, one song from Eclipse yet they have room for a 35 year old song that absolutely no one is clamoring for.


I know, Anything Is Possible was actually getting some airplay and yet they completely fucking ignored the song. That really had me scratching my head. :? I actually like a surprise thrown in every now and then when they dust off an obscure classic, but another classic song should have been dropped in place of it. They should have kept at least 4 songs in the set from ECLIPSE, in my opinion.

And now they want to try and save ECLIPSE by releasing a video for Resonate? I'm afraid it may be too late....
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Postby maverick218 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:03 am

I'll be pleasantly shocked if there is ever a new album release of NEW material. Maybe a live CD or something, but that's about it. I think Neal's antics have effectively killed off any good future that the band had.
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Postby Jeremey » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:27 am

The Resonate video and the tour in 2012 I can only see as promoting Neal and possibly his desire to parlay a career change into reality tv star, which surprises me because he always struck me as a private person, but then again he's batty as Carlsbad Caverns, so, you know, "anything is possible," lol
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Postby brywool » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:47 am

Don wrote:
brywool wrote:I am really doubting a new album from Journey. I have a feeling after everything that's gone on, the band may actually be done. Perry? God, people, give it up.


I'll tell you what was really disappointing (for me anyway). Them not playing anything new besides COH at the Hollywood Bowl.


Personally, I don't mind that song, though I know many here lament it on a regular basis. It's more "anthemic" than say, "Resonate" which I saw in Seattle. "Resonate" is a good song, but it's not one people are gonna jump up and pound their fists at... though when the video comes out it sounds like people will be wanting to pump their fist through their TV. It was the only new tune. I too was really annoyed with only one new song. I think the shows up to Seattle, they'd dropped ALL the new stuff. I thought that was a drag. The fact is, Americans have the attention span of a 4 year old. My God... it's GOOD to hear something different now and then. "Anything is Possible" has more of the right feel. If yer gonna throw out a new tune, make it a bigger song.


Don wrote:All the talk about how they were going to play what they wanted was just that, talk. Well, with the exception of La Do Da. How that got put in the set-list the last half of the tour is beyond me. Nothing from Revelation, one song from Eclipse yet they have room for a 35 year old song that absolutely no one is clamoring for.


I like "La Do Da" actually. I have a hunch that was put in more for Deen so he could do Smith's drum solo. I didn't have a problem with that cuz I like the song and the solo. Yes- NOTHING off of Revelation was really NOT a good move. Say what you want about it, that album was as big as it's going to get for this band from the 70s and they shouldn't have just ignored it.

What the band needs to do is play longer shows so that things get covered. Otherwise, they're going to piss of their long time fans. The fact is, they HAVE to play the dirty dozen or every soccer mom in the house will revolt. Okay- fine. Play that stuff. Then add some time from the new album and recent albums and obscure stuff. With 5 more songs, they could make their fans a bit happier. Do away with the extended piano and guitar solos. Those are probably to give Arnel a bit of a break. And that's necessary, but he seems pretty tough vocally.

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Now, if Journey does go away and it's the end, I see no reason to lament. The group provided some great music during its run in the late 70s/early 80s. So much so that those tunes have overshadowed anything they have done the rest of their career as far as gaining public acknowledgement when it comes to new material.

This is proven further by their setlist which (when I saw them last) only contained one song written after 1988.

CDs and DVDs are wonderful media forms and for us the fans, with these at our disposal Journey (and many of its peers) will never truly be gone no matter what their decision is in the future as far as hanging it up or pressing on.


I would LOVE to hear new stuff from Journey. I LIKED Eclipse quite a bit. I liked Revelation quite a bit. So, to me, it's not that their music is suffering. But today's audience and today's record business has ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what to do with bands like Journey. And again, American audiences will not accept any kind of change to the "Formula". This went for Styx as well. They put out "Cyclorama" which was a great, current sounding album. Nobody knew what the hell to do with it. With Eclipse, Journey went out and did some TV and toured (and will tour again). What the heck else could they have done? I was all for the band taking a left turn. I thought this attempt was much better than other lefts like Red 13 or Generations. I dug Eclipse. Too bad the band didn't stand by it. To me, Neal was the ONLY one in the band that was beating the drum for it.
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Postby jestor92 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:26 am

They need a few years away from the lime light to make people want to hear the band again.
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Re: I wonder what we can expect from the next Journey album?

Postby strangegrey » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:41 am

jrnyjetster wrote:I wonder what we can expect from the next Journey album?


Assuming the same progression for the past 3-4 years...the next journey album will be pure shit, one hundred times over....
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:17 pm

Archetype wrote:
Eric wrote:Sea of Emotions, To Touch the Sky, Surrender, One World, I Can Breathe, Walking Away from the Edge, Remember Me, Good Time Tonight, Filmore Boogie......Any of these would have been 100x better than All the Way, Lifetime of Dream, With your Love and Loved by you


Where can one listen to some of these unheard of songs?


Sea of Emotions and To Touch the Sky are on the Jack Blades solo album. http://www.melodicrock.com/reviews/jack ... kblades.p3

Surrender and One World are on a Mickey Thomas solo album called Over the Edge, along with another unreleased song called Eyes Wide Open. http://www.melodicrock.com/reviews/overtheedge.p3

Good Time Tonight and Filmore Boogie were never officially released. Good Time Tonight was played early in the 1999 tour (along with the then-unreleased World Gone Wild). Filmore Boogie was played on the 1998 tour.

The rest were released as Journey songs, of course.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:16 pm

Fuck you neal. It's Jon's band now. Go back to the formula that made some great songs.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:14 am

atthistime wrote:Perry probably has a goldmine of great material stashed away that could put Journey on the map again. I have no doubt.


It's funny you should mention that, because last night, Sofia Vergara said that to me, as she, Jessica Biel, Rachel McAdams, and Jessica Alba took turns sitting on my face - right before Ed McMahon awoke from the dead to tell me I had won the Power Ball lottery. Mind you, I was pretty busy, as Ben Cherington had just called to tell me he was offering me $200 million for ten years to start in center field for the Red Sox. I picked up my Nobel Peace Prize on the way to the ballpark.
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Postby brywool » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:27 am

atthistime wrote:Perry probably has a goldmine of great material stashed away that could put Journey on the map again. I have no doubt.


If this were the case, Perry would've done it HIMSELF. This is a guy that quit Journey only to be pulled back by pressure from the record company. And in the end, it just wasn't in him to work with these guys (right or wrong). If Perry had the goods, he'd be releasing this stuff himself. This is simply not the case. Material? Probably. That could put Journey on the map again? Doubtful.
Journey has been on the map for the past few years. In fact, they've been all OVER the map, something that Perry wouldn't let them do before. Had the band's last two albums been promoted heavily and correctly, it would've been a much different outcome. The fact is that their management and promotional teams completely dropped the ball. Then with the idiotic press that Neal's been getting, it's pretty much screwed any chance for them.
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Postby Jana » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:17 am

There will not be another Journey album. Eclipse was their last.
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Postby RSParker » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:53 pm

This Michaela chick will dump Neal like a battery dead vibrator, he will write some sad ass, mean ass songs...hell maybe something good will come of this?

but of course thats wishful thinking...


Dump yoko, beg Perry and Smith for anything he can bring to the table and lets get this party started.
enough crap already!
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