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Postby WIX » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:24 pm

All Hell, we all get angry. Shoot, I just kicked the shit out of the kid at Mcdonalds for looking at my ass!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:41 pm

Interesting how everyone is willing to look past Deano's demons Because they know the real him but they can't give journeys drummer the same benefit. Passing judgment on Deen without knowing him or the situation is stupid.
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Postby Gideon » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:48 pm

I'd say this board's predisposition to vilify members of Journey has diminished tremendously in the past year or so.
That said, domestic violence is serious business and stuff like that doesn't change, regardless of which De[e/a]n is throwing the punches.

Personally, I'm in the dark about each man's troubled past and I'd like to keep it that way, but I don't believe that it's appropriate to bring Dean into this.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:14 pm

Not my intention to "bring Dean" into it. Just making an observation how people act so differently depending on the person. I don't know Dean's private struggles anymore than I know Deen's...but that's sorta the point. Those who do know Dean are willing to look past his demons. But some have basically said they would not with Deen.

You are 100% correct that the board is and has always been extremely judgemental of the band members...
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Postby Gideon » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:35 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:Not my intention to "bring Dean" into it. Just making an observation how people act so differently depending on the person. I don't know Dean's private struggles anymore than I know Deen's...but that's sorta the point. Those who do know Dean are willing to look past his demons. But some have basically said they would not with Deen.

You are 100% correct that the board is and has always been extremely judgemental of the band members...


At the risk of sounding callous, all I care about is Deen's ability to play and sing for Journey.
I don't promote domestic violence but I couldn't care less about his personal life. The inevitable legal and social consequences for that conduct are independent of my personal interest. Justice will be served, I'm sure, one way or another.

But at the end of the day, the only time that I'll "be done" with Deen is when his behavior keeps him from contributing to this band.
It's not worth it to get invested in the lives of these men.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:45 pm

I agree, his playing is all that should matter. I've learned that my enjoyment of the band has suffered greatly due to knowing too much about the band.
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Postby WIX » Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:36 am

You know it is a sick world. It is kinda like the jury of a murder trial convicting a suspected murderer. There is a good chance that one of the jury members is a murderer themselves that just never got caught.
And here he is deciding the fate of another dude!

Personally all I care is that when I have my concert ticket and show up at the venue. Is that the band shows up to entertain me. Other than that it's all good!
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Postby mrsp » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:22 am

Domestic violence/ abuse is never OK. Everyone loses.
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Postby slucero » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:53 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:I agree, his playing is all that should matter. I've learned that my enjoyment of the band has suffered greatly due to knowing too much about the band.



Just playing Devils advocate... would you say the same thing if you had a young kid that idolized him??

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:35 pm

slucero wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:I agree, his playing is all that should matter. I've learned that my enjoyment of the band has suffered greatly due to knowing too much about the band.



Just playing Devils advocate... would you say the same thing if you had a young kid that idolized him??


I would definately tell my kid not to pass judgement without knowing the facts. I would also explain that the behaviour is not ok (if factual). But I would not tell my kid to no longer pay attention to the man's talent.
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