2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

[mikemarrs]

All I got to say, my head is ready to EXPLODE and cum is going to come shooting out. I love this off-season, so incredibly interesting. Doesn't even feel like an offseason with so many moves being made at literally every second.

This has been one of the best and most interesting offseasons we have had in many years.I am hoping we get Peyton here in Tennessee although it may not happen.He is trying to choose between Denver,Tennessee and now San Francisco.

[YoungJRNY]

I about popped a boner when I saw "Steelers in the lead to land Mike Tolbert." That would be a great signing for Pittsburgh and even though it may not happen, it's good to see a complete deceased Free Agency atleast be talked here in Pittsburgh for some kind of need and Tolbert would bolster a bruising Steelers offensive attack since Mendenhall won't be playing to start the season. But just like Plax last year, he's probably using the Steelers for leverage to sign on and make his market rise.

Also looks like the Pats will sign Brandon Lloyd, so Wallace's chances in staying with Pittsburgh is looking great at the moment. I would like to sign Jerricho Cotchery to a couple-year deal though. He's a sleeper that could make us 10X better and be more involved in the passing game & take over the veteran wideout spot to fill Hines Ward's role.

[Seven Wishes2]

If the Pats do sign Lloyd, I'll upgrade their offseason performance from a C to a B. A couple of nice pickups in the secondary so far. If they re-sign Anderson and Ellis, the line moves to an A-. And, if the rumors are true, and Landry is close to signing, too, it's an A+. Couple that with a good draft, and I'll be pumped.

[Ehwmatt]

Good god. 49ers just snagged Mario Manningham, too. If Peyton signs with them and can indeed be the OLD Peyton we know, this is going to be one of the scariest and most complete teams I can remember since the dawn of the current "passing league era."

[Enigma869]

Good god. 49ers just snagged Mario Manningham, too. If Peyton signs with them and can indeed be the OLD Peyton we know, this is going to be one of the scariest and most complete teams I can remember since the dawn of the current "passing league era."

If Manning signs with the 49'ers, they will instantly become EVERYONE's pick to win The Super Bowl. That worked out really well for the Eagles last season

[Enigma869]

If the Pats do sign Lloyd, I'll upgrade their offseason performance from a C to a B. A couple of nice pickups in the secondary so far. If they re-sign Anderson and Ellis, the line moves to an A-. And, if the rumors are true, and Landry is close to signing, too, it's an A+. Couple that with a good draft, and I'll be pumped.

Not a fan of Landry at all. The Patriots are far more in need of a lockdown corner and pass rusher than Landry. I'll take my chances with Pat Chung at the Safety position. Not to mention, have a look at Landry. Dude is a piss test away from being banned for steroids. NO Defensive Back should look like that dude looks!

[Ehwmatt]

Good god. 49ers just snagged Mario Manningham, too. If Peyton signs with them and can indeed be the OLD Peyton we know, this is going to be one of the scariest and most complete teams I can remember since the dawn of the current "passing league era."

If Manning signs with the 49'ers, they will instantly become EVERYONE's pick to win The Super Bowl. That worked out really well for the Eagles last season

I hear you there, but the key difference I see is that the heart and soul of the 49ers, their brutal defense, is almost totally back. And that is a team that is stocked with team players, especially on that side of the ball.

In other words, they are not trying to plug stars in haphazardly like the Eagles did. They are filling gaps with proven impact players. Of course, a lot of it would come down to whether Peyton can stay healthy and be the Peyton of old. But I'd definitely take my chances.

[Liam]

Still don't get one thing about the Iggles last year...moving an o-line coach to d-coordinator???? I STILL don't get how he still has his job either.

It's well known that I hate Filthadelphia...but that move made no sense.

[YoungJRNY]

Good god. 49ers just snagged Mario Manningham, too. If Peyton signs with them and can indeed be the OLD Peyton we know, this is going to be one of the scariest and most complete teams I can remember since the dawn of the current "passing league era."

If Manning signs with the 49'ers, they will instantly become EVERYONE's pick to win The Super Bowl. That worked out really well for the Eagles last season

I like Chicago's chances in the NFC. Before Cutler went out last season, he was having a Pro-Bowl caliber year and they were riding a nice little win streak. Once Cutler went down and then Forte', they were out for the count. I look for the Bears to make a huge turnaround and compete pretty hard for the NFC Title.

[AR]

My team just lost a shitload of good players but I trust Ozzie Newsome.

[mikemarrs]

My team just lost a shitload of good players but I trust Ozzie Newsome.

One of the best if not the best GM in the entire league.

[Liam]

Flynn to Seahawks.

[mikemarrs]

Flynn to Seahawks.

Wow that will be interesting.hopefully they didn't just get Kolb II but we all know what happened when Arizona snagged Kolb from Philly and he never lived up to the expectations.Hopefully Flynn will be a different story but he does have a strong running game to fall back on with Lynch at RB.Miami thought they might've had him in the bag due to getting Flynn's coach at GB Philbin but it didn't work out that way.I noticed free agents are avoiding Miami like the plaque....

[mikemarrs]

Like YoungJRNY said this has been one of the funnest electrifying offseasons we have had in a long long time especially coming on the heels of the lockout just one year earlier.Now i can't wait until the 2012 NFL Draft coming soon....

Justin Blackmon,Trent Richardson,Michael Floyd,Dontari Poe,Quinton Couples,Whitney Mercilus,Melvin Ingram,Nick Perry,Peter Konz are just some of the players projected to go in the first round.

[slucero]

Good god. 49ers just snagged Mario Manningham, too. If Peyton signs with them and can indeed be the OLD Peyton we know, this is going to be one of the scariest and most complete teams I can remember since the dawn of the current "passing league era."

If Manning signs with the 49'ers, they will instantly become EVERYONE's pick to win The Super Bowl. That worked out really well for the Eagles last season

I hear you there, but the key difference I see is that the heart and soul of the 49ers, their brutal defense, is almost totally back. And that is a team that is stocked with team players, especially on that side of the ball.

In other words, they are not trying to plug stars in haphazardly like the Eagles did. They are filling gaps with proven impact players. Of course, a lot of it would come down to whether Peyton can stay healthy and be the Peyton of old. But I'd definitely take my chances.

Smith for 3 years at 24 Million with 8M guaranteed vs Manning fo 60 - 90 Million with likely 30M guaranteed... Manning is pocket passer, has no mobility.. and is one crushing hit from a wheelchair... he'll have a bullseye on his neck

Smith is no Manning... but he's young, healthy, hungry and mobile and costs less. He got them to within one game of the SP last year.. and it wasn't his fault they lost...

Moss makes them a SB contender.. Vernon Davis and Moss lining up every play... both with 4.3 speed ... man.. that will make secondaries nervous.

I'd pass on Manning... to many unknowns....

[Enigma869]

Smith is no Manning... but he's young, healthy, hungry and mobile and costs less. He got them to within one game of the SP last year.. and it wasn't his fault they lost...

You already said what needed to be said...Smith is no Manning. Smith may have had a reasonable season last you, but it doesn't change the fact that the guy is a marginal NFL QB.

Moss makes them a SB contender

Um, no he doesn't! They're defense does. One thing I know about Moss is that he checks out completely if he has a QB who can't get him the ball (and Smith can't).

I'd pass on Manning... to many unknowns....

I probably would as well, but the guy has been too good for too many years for many NFL teams not to take a flyer on him. If he's healthy, he's the guy who would instantly make the Niners a favorite to win it all.

[slucero]

Smith is no Manning... but he's young, healthy, hungry and mobile and costs less. He got them to within one game of the SP last year.. and it wasn't his fault they lost...

You already said what needed to be said...Smith is no Manning. Smith may have had a reasonable season last you, but it doesn't change the fact that the guy is a marginal NFL QB.

... who got them to with in one game.. and the loos was not his fault...

Moss makes them a SB contender

Um, no he doesn't! They're defense does. One thing I know about Moss is that he checks out completely if he has a QB who can't get him the ball (and Smith can't).

Defense wins games... and offense scores points... the biggest hole in their offense was WR because Crabtree has been a bust.... Moss will be the primary WR... and because of his presence Davis will no longer be double teamed all the time... and that completely changes their options... and IMO will change their point total

I'd pass on Manning... to many unknowns....

I probably would as well, but the guy has been too good for too many years for many NFL teams not to take a flyer on him. If he's healthy, he's the guy who would instantly make the Niners a favorite to win it all.

1 Super Bowl in 14 years... does not make Manning the "savior" or the Niners contenders... maybe if it was Tom Brady...


didn't you just say their defense made them SB contenders?

[YoungJRNY]

1 Super Bowl in 14 years... does not make Manning the "savior" or the Niners contenders...

You still must read in between the lines before you go off and point out that fact. Fact of the matter is, is that Manning has been to countless number of AFC Championship games and two Super Bowls, winning one and earning Super Bowl MVP honors. He's also been an All-Pro his entire career and won NFL MVP numerous times as well.

If his resume is ANY indication, Manning will give his new team a 12 win season consistently for the rest of his tenure in the NFL and with that not only comes a chance at winning the division, but the #1 seed in the AFC/NFC playoffs. Manning's health plays a good part in all of this, but an 80% Peyton Manning will go a LONG WAYS for teams and owners foaming at the mouth to win a championship who hasn't had that taste for quite some time.

If Manning goes to the '9ers, they are automatic NFC favorites and most people will pencil them in as 2012 NFL champions. Thing what is scary to me, is that in all of those 14 years in Indianapolis, he has never played with that great of a defense (minus Freeney/MAthis) OR a consistent running game, especially when Edge left so for him to play with the likes of Patrick Willis and then not only have Randy Moss, Mario Manningham, Vernon Davis, (possibly Mike Wallace) but a bruising style running back in Frank Gore with a scrappy offensive line is terrifying. They'd be the most complete team BY FAR within this last decade or so.

[Enigma869]

didn't you just say their defense made them SB contenders?

That's exactly what I said. My point is that the Niners already have a stout defense. If they can add a better than average QB, it changes EVERYTHING. If you don't think a QB makes a difference, I'll direct your attention to last year's Patriots. They had one of the absolute worst defenses in the history of the NFL and still made it to The Super Bowl. with wide receivers playing defensive back.

[mikemarrs]

Peyton Manning is without a doubt one of the best QB's ever.If Peyton Manning goes to the 49ers i would pretty much predict them to win the NFC because that team would be so good it would be scary.The 49ers already have a good defense plus Peyton has Gore in the backfield and Gore is the best RB Peyton has had in years.Add to that the WR talent the niners have and its a no brainer.They also just signed Randy Moss plus they brought in Mario Manningham who Peyton's brother Eli threw to for a few years.They just might get Wallace from Pittsburgh and if that happened they would be unstoppable.If Manning goes to the 49ers they are pretty much guaranteed to win the NFC.

[mikemarrs]

According to Schefters podcast this morning:

"Alex Smith is waiting on Peyton Manning. Schefter does not think Smith would sign with Miami without knowing whether the San Francisco 49ers remained an option for him."

[YoungJRNY]

Peyton Manning is without a doubt one of the best QB's ever.If Peyton Manning goes to the 49ers i would pretty much predict them to win the NFC because that team would be so good it would be scary.The 49ers already have a good defense plus Peyton has Gore in the backfield and Gore is the best RB Peyton has had in years.Add to that the WR talent the niners have and its a no brainer.They also just signed Randy Moss plus they brought in Mario Manningham who Peyton's brother Eli threw to for a few years.They just might get Wallace from Pittsburgh and if that happened they would be unstoppable.If Manning goes to the 49ers they are pretty much guaranteed to win the NFC.

They are saying Wallace to the 9'ers is a long-shot. The possibility of Wallace going to the 9'ers is if both Alex Smith AND Peyton Manning split San Francisco but if Manning chooses the 9'ers, then Wallace probably won't get offered and the only girl left at the party for Wallace's service's would more than likely be Denver.

[YoungJRNY]

Looks like Peyton has picked Denver. He has informed his agent to start contract negotiations immediately with the Broncos. Reports coming off of ESPN now is that they are "deep" in contract negotiation's with Manning and the team is putting in a trade for Tim Tebow as we speak. Lmao, too funny. Week 1, Sunday Night Football. Pittsburgh @ Denver, WC rematch. I can see it.

RIP Tebow Time.

[Enigma869]

So long Touchdown Jesus!

[Liam]

Tebow will end up in Jax. That's just my hunch.

[YoungJRNY]

Does this mean God is a Peyton Manning fan? Maybe Tim H. Tebow needs to pray harder.

[Liam]

Still love that SNL skit of Jesus visiting the Broncos locker room. It has since been banned on youtube, otherwise I'd post it for you.

[YoungJRNY]

Tebow will end up in Jax. That's just my hunch.

Jacksonville's not interested, which is surprising. I honestly think teams don't want him. No one wants anything to do with the guy and what "Tebowmania" brings to their franchise, which is one big pain in the neck. It's simple: Tebow will be a career backup journeyman that will be out of the league within the next 3-5 years.

[mikemarrs]

I'm hoping he ends up in Jacksonville so the Titans can get two shots a year at him.The QB situation there would be....Henne,Gabbert,Tebow.Not exactly the kind of depth that lights the world on fire but i'm betting they would pretty much be forced to play him because he is a legend down in those parts plus it would fill the seats up and they can untarp everything.He probably won't go there but it would be interesting.

[mikemarrs]

Tebow will end up in Jax. That's just my hunch.

Jacksonville's not interested, which is surprising. I honestly think teams don't want him. No one wants anything to do with the guy and what "Tebowmania" brings to their franchise, which is one big pain in the neck. It's simple: Tebow will be a career backup journeyman that will be out of the league within the next 3-5 years.

What about Miami? i wonder if they would try and sign him.