2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

[conversationpc]

Manning choosing Denver makes absolutely no sense at all. Arizona and San Fran were by far his best choices. He fucked it up. He couldn't handle the expectations that would have come with going to San Fran.

Denver is a mediocre team that was incredibly lucky to be a playoff team last year at 8-8 including a 3 game slide to end the season. And they couldn't have gotten luckier to play against a broken down Steelers.

There's no way anyone can say that he fucked it up. They're a team with a decent O-line, a good running game, a good young receiver. With as much control as Peyton takes of the offense (basically being an offensive coordinator on the field), I don't think it would've worked with the hard-headed Harbaugh.

[Enigma869]

I don't think it would've worked with the hard-headed Harbaugh.

That wasn't the issue. Hell, Manning took Harbaugh's job from him when he was the starting QB in Indy, so if that were going to be an issue, Harbaugh would have never pursued the guy. Manning and his family get to continue the family circle jerk about a "Manning vs. Manning" Super Bowl, so he was NEVER going to an NFC team. I honestly thought he would land in Miami, but I didn't think there was an NFC team in the league he would have signed with, under ANY circumstances.

[YoungJRNY]

Report: Looks like Mendenhall's Steelers career has ended. His ACL tear was pretty bad at the end of last season and he won't be ready for this season at all. He'll be on the PUP list and will be cut in 2013 so expect the Steelers to maybe go RB in the earlier rounds, maybe 3 or 4 for a possible replacement long term.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Mendenhall was never that good, even when healthy. He was no better than Benjarvus Green-Ellis, who was the picture of mediocrity (except Benjarvus fumbled a lot less than Mendenhall). I don't view this as a loss for the Steelers, AT ALL. Mendenhall is EASILY replaceable.

In most case's, he was well on his way to be replaced. He's a Reggie Bush-esq player and could be one of the most dangerous backs in open space but the emergence of Isaac Redman, who runs and is built more like Michael Turner, runs with more precision and consistency. He fits the mold of a Steelers back WAY more than Mendenhall would. We just had a stubborn offensive coordinator that spoon-fed the running game just to spoon-feed it when all he was worried about was WR screens all game long that made no sense. In that Denver game, Redman had only 17 carries but for 121 yards and bonehead Arians just took him right out of the game plan and left it at that. I'm confident in Haley to get these backs up and going again and play to our overall strength of balance. RB's are the easiest to replace by far.

[slucero]

Peyton Manning Agrees to $96 Million Deal With Broncos

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46795923

[Enigma869]

Just one more reason that I love Logan Mankins. Toughest, most nasty SOB in the NFL. Playing the Super Bowl with a torn ACL is fucking NUTS

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... y-torn-acl

[YoungJRNY]

Tebow to the Jets. Now they have 2 under performers at QB, one to who they just gave a 3 year extension to. The lost boys in all the Manning hoopla. They just put Jesus in the Devil's locker room, lmao.

Saints bounty gate: Sean Payton suspended for one year. Greg Williams suspended indefinitely.

[Enigma869]

Tebow to the Jets. Now they have 2 under performers at QB, one to who they just gave a 3 year extension to. The lost boys in all the Manning hoopla. They just put Jesus in the Devil's locker room, lmao.

Saints bounty gate: Sean Payton suspended for one year. Greg Williams suspended indefinitely.

What a fucking circus that will be. Now the Jets have two QB's who can't play!

[conversationpc]

Tebow to the Jets. Now they have 2 under performers at QB, one to who they just gave a 3 year extension to. The lost boys in all the Manning hoopla. They just put Jesus in the Devil's locker room, lmao.

Saints bounty gate: Sean Payton suspended for one year. Greg Williams suspended indefinitely.

What a fucking circus that will be. Now the Jets have two QB's who can't play!

[YoungJRNY]

Reports are now saying a void within the language of the trading contract could derail Tebow's movement to the Jets. The St.Louis Rams may land Tebow. Stay tuned.

[Enigma869]

Reports are now saying a void within the language of the trading contract could derail Tebow's movement to the Jets. The St.Louis Rams may land Tebow. Stay tuned.

The fact that the Jets even contemplated this move is just plain fucking moronic. They already have a guy at QB who is VERY suspect. Why the hell would they ever bring in a guy who sucks worse than they guy they already have? It makes ZERO sense. Not to mention, you put these two mediocre QB's in the NY media market and complete chaos and disorder will ensue. Talk about a fucking distraction. As a fan of an AFC East team, I would welcome the move, because I think the Jets would have trouble winning 6 games, with all of the distractions around them.

[Ehwmatt]

Reports are now saying a void within the language of the trading contract could derail Tebow's movement to the Jets. The St.Louis Rams may land Tebow. Stay tuned.

The fact that the Jets even contemplated this move is just plain fucking moronic. They already have a guy at QB who is VERY suspect. Why the hell would they ever bring in a guy who sucks worse than they guy they already have? It makes ZERO sense. Not to mention, you put these two mediocre QB's in the NY media market and complete chaos and disorder will ensue. Talk about a fucking distraction. As a fan of an AFC East team, I would welcome the move, because I think the Jets would have trouble winning 6 games, with all of the distractions around them.

I can only guess at two possible rationales.

1. Light a fire under the once-anointed franchise QB whose development has stagnated and arguably regressed in the last 2 years by bringing in a high-profile backup.

2. Bring Tebow in to use him in special goal line packages

Neither makes tons of sense, especially given the circus that will accompany Tebow. I *might* buy either rationale if Tebow weren't the media circus he is.

[YoungJRNY]

This is the NFL and reports indicated that Bill Bellichick was indeed, interested in Teblow. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan got a whiff of it and needed to do anything that was possible to get Teblow off the market so he wouldn't land in New England, that's just the way the business works. I don't think even the Jets know what the hell to do with him because Denver sure as hell didn't, hence, the swift kick in the ass out of the door.

The Jets are just in major turmoil right now. A couple more gaffes by Ryan and I wouldn't be surprised to see him fired within a 2 year radius. He's as big of a jackass as the Bronco coming into the locker room (if trade holds up.)

[Enigma869]

This is the NFL and reports indicated that Bill Bellichick was indeed, interested in Teblow. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan got a whiff of it and needed to do anything that was possible to get Teblow off the market so he wouldn't land in New England, that's just the way the business works. I don't think even the Jets know what the hell to do with him because Denver sure as hell didn't, hence, the swift kick in the ass out of the door.

The Jets are just in major turmoil right now. A couple more gaffes by Ryan and I wouldn't be surprised to see him fired within a 2 year radius. He's as big of a jackass as the Bronco coming into the locker room (if trade holds up.)

Whether the Jets get him or not, it creates all kinds of turmoil for Sanchez. Shefter is reporting that the Jaguars are back in the game for Tebow.

[YoungJRNY]

This is the NFL and reports indicated that Bill Bellichick was indeed, interested in Teblow. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan got a whiff of it and needed to do anything that was possible to get Teblow off the market so he wouldn't land in New England, that's just the way the business works. I don't think even the Jets know what the hell to do with him because Denver sure as hell didn't, hence, the swift kick in the ass out of the door.

The Jets are just in major turmoil right now. A couple more gaffes by Ryan and I wouldn't be surprised to see him fired within a 2 year radius. He's as big of a jackass as the Bronco coming into the locker room (if trade holds up.)

Whether the Jets get him or not, it creates all kinds of turmoil for Sanchez. Shefter is reporting that the Jaguars are back in the game for Tebow.

I really don't get this entire drama. Man, whenever it involves Tebow it's drama through the roof. Can't stand it. Now, Tebow could of picked between the Jags OR the Jets and he picked the Jets. Maybe they were pitching him an opportunity to start over dirty? Sanchez bites the dong, but does Ryan really think he's worse than Tebow? It's pretty obvious New York is trying to axe Sanchez for the longterm.

[Ehwmatt]

This is the NFL and reports indicated that Bill Bellichick was indeed, interested in Teblow. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan got a whiff of it and needed to do anything that was possible to get Teblow off the market so he wouldn't land in New England, that's just the way the business works. I don't think even the Jets know what the hell to do with him because Denver sure as hell didn't, hence, the swift kick in the ass out of the door.

The Jets are just in major turmoil right now. A couple more gaffes by Ryan and I wouldn't be surprised to see him fired within a 2 year radius. He's as big of a jackass as the Bronco coming into the locker room (if trade holds up.)

Whether the Jets get him or not, it creates all kinds of turmoil for Sanchez. Shefter is reporting that the Jaguars are back in the game for Tebow.

I really don't get this entire drama. Man, whenever it involves Tebow it's drama through the roof. Can't stand it. Now, Tebow could of picked between the Jags OR the Jets and he picked the Jets. Maybe they were pitching him an opportunity to start over dirty? Sanchez bites the dong, but does Ryan really think he's worse than Tebow? It's pretty obvious New York is trying to axe Sanchez for the longterm.

So the humble Tebow eschews the comforts of home and a chance to compete with an even worse QB in Blaine Gabbert for the bright lights and temptations of New York? Maybe this will be like the part in the Bible where Satan tempts Jesus in the desert.

[slucero]

wow.. Goodell just brought the hammer down on the Saints...

[Enigma869]

wow.. Goodell just brought the hammer down on the Saints...

Really not a surprise. The NFL is currently being sued by countless retired players about the violence of the game and how they did nothing to stop it. If they look the other way on a bounty program, it doesn't look good for their court cases. To me, this is no different than "Spygate". NFL teams have been doing this shit FOREVER. The fact that some fans actually think this is news tells me that they really don't understand the NFL. None of this is news, AT ALL. Again, the decision made by Goodell is all about self-preservation for the league and allows the league to defend themselves in court and say "See how tough we are when we know that the safety of our players is in jeopardy". I can tell you this...There isn't a single team (not one!) in the NFL who hasn't engaged in "Spygate", or "Bountygate" at one point or another! No different than stealing signs in baseball and intentionally drilling a guy with a fastball.

[slucero]

I wonder what the odds are on Peyton getting fired....

[conversationpc]

wow.. Goodell just brought the hammer down on the Saints...

Really not a surprise. The NFL is currently being sued by countless retired players about the violence of the game and how they did nothing to stop it. If they look the other way on a bounty program, it doesn't look good for their court cases. To me, this is no different than "Spygate". NFL teams have been doing this shit FOREVER. The fact that some fans actually think this is news tells me that they really don't understand the NFL. None of this is news, AT ALL. Again, the decision made by Goodell is all about self-preservation for the league and allows the league to defend themselves in court and say "See how tough we are when we know that the safety of our players is in jeopardy". I can tell you this...There isn't a single team (not one!) in the NFL who hasn't engaged in "Spygate", or "Bountygate" at one point or another! No different than stealing signs in baseball and intentionally drilling a guy with a fastball.

I don't think anyone's really surprised that it goes on. If other NFL fans are like me, they're disgusted about guys purposely trying to injure other players. Obviously, I know it goes on but it doesn't make it any more acceptable. I understand, and actually even have no problem with, guys putting big hits on other players but that's different than doing so with an intent to injure someone.

[mikemarrs]

Michael Bush is heading to Chicago.Bush, a free agent running back who has played his entire career with the Raiders, has agreed to terms on a deal with the Bears. A league source tells PFT’s Mike Florio that the deal is a four-year, $14 million contract with $7 million guaranteed. At an average of $3.5 million a year, that’s the best deal a free-agent running back has received this year.

i really like this move by Chicago.Forte and Bush pretty good combo there.

[YoungJRNY]

Please, somebody be dumb enough to offer Mike Wallace the kind of money he thinks he's worth. I'm turned off about this kid in general. He has a very bad attitude and has a cocky swag about him that is not needed on the business side of things. I don't care how fast you are or what kind of elite speed you posses, when attitude starts to show through like a Desean Jackson, kick them to the curb and as a Steelers fan, I'm about there with Wallace. Other than Megatron and Fitz, NO WR is worth the kind of money Wallace is wanting. Brown is much more worth it next season IMHO. Lets get a #1 for this kid and sign Cotch to a multi-year deal and wipe our hands with this punk. Here's hoping someone dumb enough to offer him a contract comes forward.

[No Surprize]

Michael Bush is heading to Chicago.Bush, a free agent running back who has played his entire career with the Raiders, has agreed to terms on a deal with the Bears. A league source tells PFT’s Mike Florio that the deal is a four-year, $14 million contract with $7 million guaranteed. At an average of $3.5 million a year, that’s the best deal a free-agent running back has received this year.

i really like this move by Chicago.Forte and Bush pretty good combo there.

I do 2. I think the Bears are amping up for a run as long as Cutler stays healthy. Getting a stud like Marshall at WR was a big step also. This is turning into the toughest division in football.

[YoungJRNY]

[YoungJRNY]

Michael Bush is heading to Chicago.Bush, a free agent running back who has played his entire career with the Raiders, has agreed to terms on a deal with the Bears. A league source tells PFT’s Mike Florio that the deal is a four-year, $14 million contract with $7 million guaranteed. At an average of $3.5 million a year, that’s the best deal a free-agent running back has received this year.

i really like this move by Chicago.Forte and Bush pretty good combo there.

I do 2. I think the Bears are amping up for a run as long as Cutler stays healthy. Getting a stud like Marshall at WR was a big step also. This is turning into the toughest division in football.

Chicago was well on their way last season before Cutler got hurt. They were under the radar and just a couple more wins away from being a serious threat and contender. I like Chi-towns chances next season.

[mikemarrs]

LMAO,The Jets are fucking clueless.Rex Ryan knows nothing about QB's

[mikemarrs]

The Bears’ Wednesday signing of running back Michael Bush was at first perceived as a sort of insurance policy for unsigned franchise player Matt Forte. Bush could be Forte’s backup, giving Chicago a starting-capable runner in the event of another Forte injury, and also provide the Bears with some negotiating leverage in long-term contract talks with Forte.

But perhaps there’s more to it. Perhaps the Bears don’t want to sign Forte long term, at all.

Forte certainly isn’t happy, and he let his feelings be known on Twitter Thursday afternoon.

“There’s only so many times a man that has done everything he’s been asked to do can be disrespected!” Forte tweeted. “Guess the GOOD GUYs do finish last.”

Forte has played hard for the Bears, handling heavy workloads and playing through a knee injury in 2009. But he hasn’t exactly played the role of good soldier. He’s gone on ESPN repeatedly to voice his frustration about his contract demands

[mikemarrs]

Quarterback Josh Johnson played for 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh at the University of San Diego. Johnson will now get another chance to play for Harbaugh.

The 49ers have announced that Johnson has signed a two-year deal.

Johnson joins the 49ers after four seasons with the Buccaneers. He entered the league in 2008 as a fifth-round draft choice.


Its just my opinion but i think Josh will end up being the starter.49ers have finally found themselves a pretty good QB.I think Alex Smith will lose the starting position there in S.F.....Very good move by the niners and with the very talented WR group they have there i see Josh having plenty of success.Mark my words Josh Johnson will be the new starter and Alex Smith will be on his way out.I also happen to think Josh hasn't really gotten a good chance yet to show what he can do.Now he can.

[mikemarrs]

LMAO.....WTF? Now if this isn't the craziest shit i've read in quite a while......


Television evangelist Pat Robertson says the Denver Broncos didn’t show enough loyalty to Tim Tebow, and they may pay for it this season.

After the Broncos signed Peyton Manning and traded Tebow to the Jets, Robertson said he thinks it demonstrates that Tebow isn’t appreciated. And he said that if Manning’s neck injury keeps him off the field, the Broncos will be sorry.

“I think the Denver Broncos treated him shabbily,” Robertson said, via Mediaite.com. “He won seven games, he brought them into the playoffs, for heaven sakes. I mean, they were a nothing team. He rallied them together with spectacular last-minute passes and, you know, when they beat Buffalo — I mean, Pittsburgh, excuse me — it was a tremendous victory. And you just ask yourself, OK, so Peyton Manning was a tremendous MVP quarterback, but he’s been injured. If that injury comes back, Denver will find itself without a quarterback. And in my opinion, it would serve them right.”

It’s not often that we turn to Pat Robertson for football opinions, but hearing an odd opinion from an odd source feels like par for the course in this craziest of NFL offseasons.

[Ehwmatt]

LMAO.....WTF? Now if this isn't the craziest shit i've read in quite a while......


Television evangelist Pat Robertson says the Denver Broncos didn’t show enough loyalty to Tim Tebow, and they may pay for it this season.

After the Broncos signed Peyton Manning and traded Tebow to the Jets, Robertson said he thinks it demonstrates that Tebow isn’t appreciated. And he said that if Manning’s neck injury keeps him off the field, the Broncos will be sorry.

“I think the Denver Broncos treated him shabbily,” Robertson said, via Mediaite.com. “He won seven games, he brought them into the playoffs, for heaven sakes. I mean, they were a nothing team. He rallied them together with spectacular last-minute passes and, you know, when they beat Buffalo — I mean, Pittsburgh, excuse me — it was a tremendous victory. And you just ask yourself, OK, so Peyton Manning was a tremendous MVP quarterback, but he’s been injured. If that injury comes back, Denver will find itself without a quarterback. And in my opinion, it would serve them right.”

It’s not often that we turn to Pat Robertson for football opinions, but hearing an odd opinion from an odd source feels like par for the course in this craziest of NFL offseasons.

I'm not religious and I'm no friend of televangelists, Tebow, or Denver, but everyone (especially anti-religion people) wants to read this as this guy's wishing injury on Manning. He's not at all. He's simply saying that if Peyton does end up being as frail as he possibly could be, given the seriousness of his previous injury, it would serve the Broncos right for ditching Tebow. It's a world of difference between that and actually wishing Manning gets hurt.

People just read/hear what they want to hear in these types of situations.

[Enigma869]

LMAO.....WTF? Now if this isn't the craziest shit i've read in quite a while......


Television evangelist Pat Robertson says the Denver Broncos didn’t show enough loyalty to Tim Tebow, and they may pay for it this season.

After the Broncos signed Peyton Manning and traded Tebow to the Jets, Robertson said he thinks it demonstrates that Tebow isn’t appreciated. And he said that if Manning’s neck injury keeps him off the field, the Broncos will be sorry.

“I think the Denver Broncos treated him shabbily,” Robertson said, via Mediaite.com. “He won seven games, he brought them into the playoffs, for heaven sakes. I mean, they were a nothing team. He rallied them together with spectacular last-minute passes and, you know, when they beat Buffalo — I mean, Pittsburgh, excuse me — it was a tremendous victory. And you just ask yourself, OK, so Peyton Manning was a tremendous MVP quarterback, but he’s been injured. If that injury comes back, Denver will find itself without a quarterback. And in my opinion, it would serve them right.”

It’s not often that we turn to Pat Robertson for football opinions, but hearing an odd opinion from an odd source feels like par for the course in this craziest of NFL offseasons.

Isn't he the same Bible Thumper who was in the media a week ago saying that it was okay for my wife to smoke the baloney pony?