2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

[conversationpc]

Isn't he the same Bible Thumper who was in the media a week ago saying that it was okay for my wife to smoke the baloney pony?

[Ehwmatt]

Broncos sign CALEB FUCKIN HANIE to be their backup quarterback.

First of all, this gives a lot more weight to those more-than-rumors that Manning is too insecure to have a decent backup QB around. After watching what he did to Chicago's solid team last year, there is no way this guy should be employed in the NFL as anything more than a 3rd string QB.

Second of all, this will be HILARIOUS to watch if Manning goes down, Hanie comes in and wrecks the team, and especially if Tebow has won the starter's job in NY and is doing ok at that point. That'd be a REAL circus.

[Enigma869]

Ha. I love this. Jets players are pissed off that Touchdown Jesus is holding a press conference tomorrow. What a fucking shit show this is going to be. I LOVE THIS! Bring on the NFL season.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... d%3D146387

[Angel]

Television evangelist Pat Robertson says the Denver Broncos didn’t show enough loyalty to Tim Tebow, and they may pay for it this season.

He's probably right.....but the NFL is about winning games not loyalty. I think Tebow had potential, I was happy with his successes last season but I'm still a Denver fan first and a Tebow fan second so I'm never opposed to bringing in someone that can get the job done better....that said, I still don't think Peyton Manning is that answer.

As a side note, my teams are now 1-Denver 2-whoever's playing Dallas 3-New York Jets

[YoungJRNY]

Ha. I love this. Jets players are pissed off that Touchdown Jesus is holding a press conference tomorrow. What a fucking shit show this is going to be. I LOVE THIS! Bring on the NFL season.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... d%3D146387

As bad and down right terrible Mark Sanchez is as a quarterback, he's going to put Tebow to shame. This upcoming season has tons of storyline & the new season has barely just begun. May be the most anticipated football season that I can think of in quite some time. Can't wait.

[Liam]

Every year the NFL becomes more and more like a fucking reality show.

[Angel]

Every year the NFL becomes more and more like a fucking reality show.

I think it's on purpose. They have to do something to keep people interested and anticipating the upcoming season more than they did the year before. It's a marketing ploy.

[Liam]

That would be fine for the people who don't like football, and are the vast minority. But people like me...I love the game...not all the bullshit drama going on behind the scenes.

Not blowing up at you...it's at the NFL. lol

[Angel]

That would be fine for the people who don't like football, and are the vast minority. But people like me...I love the game...not all the bullshit drama going on behind the scenes.

Not blowing up at you...it's at the NFL. lol

True...however, you and I are going to watch football, buy merchandise etc no matter what...the drama brings in those people that might otherwise not...again, marketing ploy.

[mikemarrs]

Noticed this little bit of info....

On Thanksgiving, the Lions will host the Texans or the Colts. The Cowboys will welcome an NFC team; this year, the visitor will come from among the Redskins, Giants, Eagles, Buccaneers, Saints, and Bears. No specific team has dibs on the third game Thanksgiving game, which will be televised for the first time on NBC.

The full schedule will be released prior to the draft.


i would love to see the Lions face the Texans that would be a really good game so i hope they do that instead of wasting it on Indy who will be rebuilding most likely with Luck at QB.As far as the Cowboys on T'Giving i'd love to see them face either the Bears or Saints.

[Enigma869]

Noticed this little bit of info....

On Thanksgiving, the Lions will host the Texans or the Colts. The Cowboys will welcome an NFC team; this year, the visitor will come from among the Redskins, Giants, Eagles, Buccaneers, Saints, and Bears. No specific team has dibs on the third game Thanksgiving game, which will be televised for the first time on NBC.

The full schedule will be released prior to the draft.


i would love to see the Lions face the Texans that would be a really good game so i hope they do that instead of wasting it on Indy who will be rebuilding most likely with Luck at QB.As far as the Cowboys on T'Giving i'd love to see them face either the Bears or Saints.

Hasn't the NFL schedule already been released? They're usually 5 years ahead on the schedule.

The Patriots opponents for the upcoming season are:


2012 Patriots home games: 49ers, Bills, Cardinals, Colts,Dolphins, Jets, Texans, Broncos


2012 Patriots away games: Bills, Dolphins, Jaguars, Jets, Rams,Seahawks, Titans, Ravens

[mikemarrs]

Noticed this little bit of info....

On Thanksgiving, the Lions will host the Texans or the Colts. The Cowboys will welcome an NFC team; this year, the visitor will come from among the Redskins, Giants, Eagles, Buccaneers, Saints, and Bears. No specific team has dibs on the third game Thanksgiving game, which will be televised for the first time on NBC.

The full schedule will be released prior to the draft.


i would love to see the Lions face the Texans that would be a really good game so i hope they do that instead of wasting it on Indy who will be rebuilding most likely with Luck at QB.As far as the Cowboys on T'Giving i'd love to see them face either the Bears or Saints.

Hasn't the NFL schedule already been released? They're usually 5 years ahead on the schedule.

The Patriots opponents for the upcoming season are:


2012 Patriots home games: 49ers, Bills, Cardinals, Colts,Dolphins, Jets, Texans, Broncos


2012 Patriots away games: Bills, Dolphins, Jaguars, Jets, Rams,Seahawks, Titans, Ravens

I think the schedule they are talking about is the time and dates.The teams already know who they are playing they just don't know the time and dates they will play each team yet.

[mikemarrs]

Eyebrows were raised around the NFL this offseason when the Steelers fired offensive coordinator Bruce Arians (a firing they falsely claimed was a retirement) and hired Todd Haley to replace him. Answering questions about that move for the first time on Tuesday morning, Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin said that was his decision and did not come from above.

“I thought that it was time for change,” Tomlin said, via Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Asked whether Steelers owner Art Rooney II pushed him to fire Arians, Tomlin said, “He did not . . . I hired Todd Haley as well, which is your next question. Art Rooney owns the football team. he can do what he wants to do, but those directives did not happen.”

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has a close relationship with Arians, and there’s been some talk that Roethlisberger and Haley will clash. But Tomlin said he doesn’t see why they can’t work well together.

“I’m not worried,” Tomlin said. “I don’t anticipate any issues. I anticipate both guys getting along great.”



I think the hiring of Haley was pretty interesting choice honestly.I can see already Big Ben and Haley up in each others faces getting heated up during a game.I was also wanting to see how he would run the offense if Wallace stays on the team this year.They were talking about getting rid of Mendenhall and now the reports are he could be staying so who knows.I will say this that the AFC North is just stacked with good teams and i could see Baltimore,Pittsburgh and Cincy right back in the postseason next year.

[YoungJRNY]

I think Haley is the exact presence that is needed when taking the reigns with the Steelers offense. He is Pittsburgh through and through and spent his whole life eating & breathing everything Black and Gold (Haley's father served decades with the Steelers organization.) He understands how the Rooney's do business and understand that Coach Tomlin is a natural motivator that doesn't believe in yelling in their face. He treats them like men. That said, the former Steelers leader of the offense, Bruce Arians, was such a stubborn dolt that his time was way out date once the same struggles yearly occured.

To make a change to jump-start another run, you must go outside and Haley was one of the guys I wanted right off the bat. Yes, he's going to be himself and show a lot of fiery on the sidelines, but you may remember a man and Hall of Fame head coach by the name of Bill Cowher who had the same style. Roethlisberger isn't the type to jaw back and forth with anybody and I believe he'd take a Haley bashing as a product to simply get better as a football player. I don't think there's going to be any problems in Pittsburgh. Can't wait to see what Haley does with our weapons. He's very capable of great things, something Arians failed on more than one occasion.

[YoungJRNY]

2012 NFL season kicks off with Dallas @ G-Men. Good way to start. Also, rumblings within' are saying Pittsburgh @ Denver first Sunday Night game Week 1. Called that shit.

[mikemarrs]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

[Ehwmatt]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

The 49ers are going "all in" for sure for the short-term. The only problem is I have serious doubts about Alex Smith. But I love their team and philosophy. I think we will see a retrenchment from arena league-esque teams like the Packers and Saints who merely outgun their opponents in this so-called "passer's league." In their place, we'll see teams undoubtedly adhering to the "passer's league mentality," but I think the future successful teams will strike an eventual "balance" between more passing but still having hard-hitting defense and at least some semblance of a running game.

[mikemarrs]

Titans have interest in Asante Samuel but the Eagles want a third round pick.Will be interesting to see if Tennessee really wants to or not.

[mikemarrs]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

The 49ers are going "all in" for sure for the short-term. The only problem is I have serious doubts about Alex Smith. But I love their team and philosophy. I think we will see a retrenchment from arena league-esque teams like the Packers and Saints who merely outgun their opponents in this so-called "passer's league." In their place, we'll see teams undoubtedly adhering to the "passer's league mentality," but I think the future successful teams will strike an eventual "balance" between more passing but still having hard-hitting defense and at least some semblance of a running game.

Exactly.The only player is I have serious doubts about is Alex Smith too.In my opinion i just don't think he is that good.My opinion is if the 49ers had a better QB they just might've made it to the super bowl last year.If the 49ers had a better QB i think they would be so much better.I have seen teams suffer and waste a super bowl talented team due to having a great team but mediocre QB.2008 Tennessee Titans were great but QB Kerry Collins sucked.2009-2010 NY Jets were very good but Mark Sanchez was the weak link at QB.Now you have a great niners team which is only as good as how far Alex Smith can lead them.For instance i think if the niners had a Matthew Stafford or even a guy like Andy Dalton they would be much better.I think this is why the niners went and got another QB Josh Johnson from Tampa Bay because they know Smith is really only gonna get them to a certain level.As soon as Alex Smith play declines in 2012 there will be a QB controversy in S.F. and Josh Johnson will take over at QB.

[Ehwmatt]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

The 49ers are going "all in" for sure for the short-term. The only problem is I have serious doubts about Alex Smith. But I love their team and philosophy. I think we will see a retrenchment from arena league-esque teams like the Packers and Saints who merely outgun their opponents in this so-called "passer's league." In their place, we'll see teams undoubtedly adhering to the "passer's league mentality," but I think the future successful teams will strike an eventual "balance" between more passing but still having hard-hitting defense and at least some semblance of a running game.

Exactly.The only player is I have serious doubts about is Alex Smith too.In my opinion i just don't think he is that good.My opinion is if the 49ers had a better QB they just might've made it to the super bowl last year.If the 49ers had a better QB i think they would be so much better.I have seen teams suffer and waste a super bowl talented team due to having a great team but mediocre QB.2008 Tennessee Titans were great but QB Kerry Collins sucked.2009-2010 NY Jets were very good but Mark Sanchez was the weak link at QB.Now you have a great niners team which is only as good as how far Alex Smith can lead them.For instance i think if the niners had a Matthew Stafford or even a guy like Andy Dalton they would be much better.I think this is why the niners went and got another QB Josh Johnson from Tampa Bay because they know Smith is really only gonna get them to a certain level.As soon as Alex Smith play declines in 2012 there will be a QB controversy in S.F. and Josh Johnson will take over at QB.

I've heard Colin Kaepernick (drafted in 2nd round last year) is the 49ers future hope at QB. They supposedly like him a lot.

[YoungJRNY]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

The 49ers are going "all in" for sure for the short-term. The only problem is I have serious doubts about Alex Smith. But I love their team and philosophy. I think we will see a retrenchment from arena league-esque teams like the Packers and Saints who merely outgun their opponents in this so-called "passer's league." In their place, we'll see teams undoubtedly adhering to the "passer's league mentality," but I think the future successful teams will strike an eventual "balance" between more passing but still having hard-hitting defense and at least some semblance of a running game.

Exactly.The only player is I have serious doubts about is Alex Smith too.In my opinion i just don't think he is that good.My opinion is if the 49ers had a better QB they just might've made it to the super bowl last year.If the 49ers had a better QB i think they would be so much better.I have seen teams suffer and waste a super bowl talented team due to having a great team but mediocre QB.2008 Tennessee Titans were great but QB Kerry Collins sucked.2009-2010 NY Jets were very good but Mark Sanchez was the weak link at QB.Now you have a great niners team which is only as good as how far Alex Smith can lead them.For instance i think if the niners had a Matthew Stafford or even a guy like Andy Dalton they would be much better.I think this is why the niners went and got another QB Josh Johnson from Tampa Bay because they know Smith is really only gonna get them to a certain level.As soon as Alex Smith play declines in 2012 there will be a QB controversy in S.F. and Josh Johnson will take over at QB.

I've heard Colin Kaepernick (drafted in 2nd round last year) is the 49ers future hope at QB. They supposedly like him a lot.

Just like Charlie Whitehurst was supposed to be the Seahawks future as well when they gave him a ludicrous contract when Pete Carrol came aboard. I don't buy into teams believing into young draftees who haven't proved themselves neither on the field OR practice field, especially what we've seen on how owners and head coach's are willing to do while jerking around QB's that atleast performed decent in their careers (Sanchez, Smith, etc.) I don't think the 9'ers are going to fully build around Kaepernick until he shows more than enough to atleast get on the field and then perform consistently thereafter.

[YoungJRNY]

As if the Bengals didn't already have a bad reputation, now our cheerleaders are getting in on the act....jeez!

Ben-Gal accused of sex with student

10:15 AM


A Cincinnati Ben-Gals cheerleader was indicted Thursday for allegedly having sex with a student when she was a teacher at Dixie Heights High School.

Here are some pics of Sarah Jones...man, those gals sure look better from the second deck.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... 801&Ref=PH

[Ehwmatt]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

The 49ers are going "all in" for sure for the short-term. The only problem is I have serious doubts about Alex Smith. But I love their team and philosophy. I think we will see a retrenchment from arena league-esque teams like the Packers and Saints who merely outgun their opponents in this so-called "passer's league." In their place, we'll see teams undoubtedly adhering to the "passer's league mentality," but I think the future successful teams will strike an eventual "balance" between more passing but still having hard-hitting defense and at least some semblance of a running game.

Exactly.The only player is I have serious doubts about is Alex Smith too.In my opinion i just don't think he is that good.My opinion is if the 49ers had a better QB they just might've made it to the super bowl last year.If the 49ers had a better QB i think they would be so much better.I have seen teams suffer and waste a super bowl talented team due to having a great team but mediocre QB.2008 Tennessee Titans were great but QB Kerry Collins sucked.2009-2010 NY Jets were very good but Mark Sanchez was the weak link at QB.Now you have a great niners team which is only as good as how far Alex Smith can lead them.For instance i think if the niners had a Matthew Stafford or even a guy like Andy Dalton they would be much better.I think this is why the niners went and got another QB Josh Johnson from Tampa Bay because they know Smith is really only gonna get them to a certain level.As soon as Alex Smith play declines in 2012 there will be a QB controversy in S.F. and Josh Johnson will take over at QB.

I've heard Colin Kaepernick (drafted in 2nd round last year) is the 49ers future hope at QB. They supposedly like him a lot.

Just like Charlie Whitehurst was supposed to be the Seahawks future as well when they gave him a ludicrous contract when Pete Carrol came aboard. I don't buy into teams believing into young draftees who haven't proved themselves neither on the field OR practice field, especially what we've seen on how owners and head coach's are willing to do while jerking around QB's that atleast performed decent in their careers (Sanchez, Smith, etc.) I don't think the 9'ers are going to fully build around Kaepernick until he shows more than enough to atleast get on the field and then perform consistently thereafter.

I don't know dick about Kaepernick other than his name. But I don't think Smith could be said to have performed "decently" in his career. The overwhelming body of his work has been decidedly subpar, and I'd be generous to rate him as "decent" last year.

And I don't know what Kaepernick showed or didn't show in practice last season. I do know he was a 2nd round rookie who didn't have an offseason on a team with all new personnel. And all of a sudden, that team found itself in playoff position early on. So of course they're going to stick with the veteran game manager at that point.

So all in all, I don't give a shit about Kapernick or who the 9ers have at QB. I just take issue with some of your statements above

[YoungJRNY]

Smith showed he can overcome the mental beatdown he went through over the past couple of years of being a #1 draft-bust AND going through a rebuilding phase with the San Francisco 49'ers. He proved last season that with the right head coach and people around him, he can manage the game good enough for an NFC Title run (that loss wasn't pinned on him.) That said, I don't think Alex Smith is anything special. He's a 2nd-3rd tier QB. To his credit, for a QB to bounce back what he's overcome and be the leader of a 13-3 team speaks volumes of the mental-capacity he has and that's what some QB's lack. The 9'ers pursuit of Manning was a no-brainer. Smith couldn't carry Manning's clipboard the right way but now, he deserves a chance to build on his career.

That said, obviously, no QB is safe unless you're of the elite. Plain and simple. Nothing will surprise me anymore with how a coach handles their QB situation not named Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger or Manning & Manning. Even with Phillip Rivers shitty play last season, I'm not sold on his tenure in S.D thus far.

[Jonny B]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

The 49ers are going "all in" for sure for the short-term. The only problem is I have serious doubts about Alex Smith. But I love their team and philosophy. I think we will see a retrenchment from arena league-esque teams like the Packers and Saints who merely outgun their opponents in this so-called "passer's league." In their place, we'll see teams undoubtedly adhering to the "passer's league mentality," but I think the future successful teams will strike an eventual "balance" between more passing but still having hard-hitting defense and at least some semblance of a running game.

Exactly.The only player is I have serious doubts about is Alex Smith too.In my opinion i just don't think he is that good.My opinion is if the 49ers had a better QB they just might've made it to the super bowl last year.If the 49ers had a better QB i think they would be so much better.I have seen teams suffer and waste a super bowl talented team due to having a great team but mediocre QB.2008 Tennessee Titans were great but QB Kerry Collins sucked.2009-2010 NY Jets were very good but Mark Sanchez was the weak link at QB.Now you have a great niners team which is only as good as how far Alex Smith can lead them.For instance i think if the niners had a Matthew Stafford or even a guy like Andy Dalton they would be much better.I think this is why the niners went and got another QB Josh Johnson from Tampa Bay because they know Smith is really only gonna get them to a certain level.As soon as Alex Smith play declines in 2012 there will be a QB controversy in S.F. and Josh Johnson will take over at QB.

What killed the 49ers last year wasn't Alex Smith, but two special teams gaffes. The 49ers defense was eating Eli Manning for breakfast lunch and dinner all day long before that. What they need is a few more weapons who can catch the ball. In addition, that running game is gonna be even stronger with Brandon Jacobs thrown into the mix. With a running game like that, they'll contend again next year regardless of who's the QB.

[Ehwmatt]

The last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he’ll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it’s a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter......


Gore,Jacobs,Hunter pretty good backfield there for the niners.Looks like they want to continue to play very tough defense and grind out yardage on the ground but they also have some good receivers too with Manningham plus Moss joining the team.The niners have done some things to make the offense better and the defense was already good.I would not be shocked to see the niners make it very far again next season.

The 49ers are going "all in" for sure for the short-term. The only problem is I have serious doubts about Alex Smith. But I love their team and philosophy. I think we will see a retrenchment from arena league-esque teams like the Packers and Saints who merely outgun their opponents in this so-called "passer's league." In their place, we'll see teams undoubtedly adhering to the "passer's league mentality," but I think the future successful teams will strike an eventual "balance" between more passing but still having hard-hitting defense and at least some semblance of a running game.

Exactly.The only player is I have serious doubts about is Alex Smith too.In my opinion i just don't think he is that good.My opinion is if the 49ers had a better QB they just might've made it to the super bowl last year.If the 49ers had a better QB i think they would be so much better.I have seen teams suffer and waste a super bowl talented team due to having a great team but mediocre QB.2008 Tennessee Titans were great but QB Kerry Collins sucked.2009-2010 NY Jets were very good but Mark Sanchez was the weak link at QB.Now you have a great niners team which is only as good as how far Alex Smith can lead them.For instance i think if the niners had a Matthew Stafford or even a guy like Andy Dalton they would be much better.I think this is why the niners went and got another QB Josh Johnson from Tampa Bay because they know Smith is really only gonna get them to a certain level.As soon as Alex Smith play declines in 2012 there will be a QB controversy in S.F. and Josh Johnson will take over at QB.

What killed the 49ers last year wasn't Alex Smith, but two special teams gaffes. The 49ers defense was eating Eli Manning for breakfast lunch and dinner all day long before that. What they need is a few more weapons who can catch the ball. In addition, that running game is gonna be even stronger with Brandon Jacobs thrown into the mix. With a running game like that, they'll contend again next year regardless of who's the QB.

Everybody will remember those special teams gaffes, but if you watch the game again with an objective eye you can see that Smith completely tightened up in the second half. He was skipping footballs off the ground 3 yards in front of him on screens and short slant routes and just couldn't do ANYTHING. Hard to throw interceptions when the ball isn't even in the air. He just doesn't have the arm. The era of Trent Dilfer-caliber QBs winning the Super Bowl is long over.

I'm pretty sure John (Enigma) is as unimpressed with Smith as I am. John--care to chime in?

[tater1977]

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[conversationpc]

Everybody will remember those special teams gaffes, but if you watch the game again with an objective eye you can see that Smith completely tightened up in the second half. He was skipping footballs off the ground 3 yards in front of him on screens and short slant routes and just couldn't do ANYTHING. Hard to throw interceptions when the ball isn't even in the air. He just doesn't have the arm. The era of Trent Dilfer-caliber QBs winning the Super Bowl is long over.

I'm pretty sure John (Enigma) is as unimpressed with Smith as I am. John--care to chime in?

I don't think he'll ever be a top-tier QB but he has, other than his 3rd year in the league, improved every single year and was far better last year than the year before. I think he'll play better this year with a chip on his shoulder. That being said, he probably won't be great but I think he can be more than good enough to win a Super Bowl with the 49ers.

[Liam]

New From Depend®: Football Pros Try the New Depend® Real Fit for Men

http://youtu.be/nf94Y8Tk1Bg

When I first saw that I said "Oh no, DWare".lol

[YoungJRNY]

Everybody will remember those special teams gaffes, but if you watch the game again with an objective eye you can see that Smith completely tightened up in the second half. He was skipping footballs off the ground 3 yards in front of him on screens and short slant routes and just couldn't do ANYTHING. Hard to throw interceptions when the ball isn't even in the air. He just doesn't have the arm. The era of Trent Dilfer-caliber QBs winning the Super Bowl is long over.

I'm pretty sure John (Enigma) is as unimpressed with Smith as I am. John--care to chime in?

I don't think he'll ever be a top-tier QB but he has, other than his 3rd year in the league, improved every single year and was far better last year than the year before. I think he'll play better this year with a chip on his shoulder. That being said, he probably won't be great but I think he can be more than good enough to win a Super Bowl with the 49ers.

If Smith doesn't play even BETTER than he did last season then he certainly won't be their QB of the future. This is a big season for Harbaugh as well to see if he can continue his rookie season success so if things don't work out for him, of course the scapegoat would be to cut ties with Smith only because of his background of being a #1 draft pick bust for most of his career. Smith isn't a game changing QB, he's nothing more than a manager (he's still even learning to manage for what it's worth) but I still feel he played well enough to earn the teams trust and get a shot at getting better. From there, anything can happen and he may turn out to be a fine QB entering his veteran years.