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Postby slucero » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:24 pm

AR wrote:Keep in mind NFL Championships before the Super Bowl in this discussion. Major League Baseball doesn't pretend they started in 1966.



that would be why I only included the QB's with SB time.. non SB QB's I don't consider relevant...

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Postby AR » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:52 pm

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AR wrote:Keep in mind NFL Championships before the Super Bowl in this discussion. Major League Baseball doesn't pretend they started in 1966.



that would be why I only included the QB's with SB time.. non SB QB's I don't consider relevant...


Johnny Unitas isn't relevant? :shock:

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Postby Liam » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:13 pm

Just one thing...Aikman's one of the most accurate passers in NFL history. JUST so ya know.
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Postby slucero » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:14 pm

AR wrote:
slucero wrote:
AR wrote:Keep in mind NFL Championships before the Super Bowl in this discussion. Major League Baseball doesn't pretend they started in 1966.



that would be why I only included the QB's with SB time.. non SB QB's I don't consider relevant...


Johnny Unitas isn't relevant? :shock:

2 NFL Championships in 58, 59 and 2 Super Bowl appearances in 68 and 71 (partial games)



whoops!

Forgot about Johnny U.. I Was think more about Y.A. Title..

I agree Smith is no Aikman... but I also think given his current situation.. writing him off is a bit premature..

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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:39 pm

http://eaglesstats2012.blogspot.com/201 ... e.html?m=1

the link above has the leaked 2012 NFL schedule,legit or not i don't know

most likely fake but we will know soon.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:46 pm

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And yet... only Bradshaw (4-0), Montana (4-0), and Aikman (3-0), have 3 or more SB wins...





You better check your facts, Roger Goodell. Last I checked, Brady has three Super Bowl wins as well!
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Postby Liam » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:34 am

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slucero wrote:
And yet... only Bradshaw (4-0), Montana (4-0), and Aikman (3-0), have 3 or more SB wins...





You better check your facts, Roger Goodell. Last I checked, Brady has three Super Bowl wins as well!


Maybe he was talkin' about perfect records, as Brady is 3-2. I dunno. not in his mind. :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:45 am

slucero wrote:
AR wrote:
slucero wrote:
AR wrote:Keep in mind NFL Championships before the Super Bowl in this discussion. Major League Baseball doesn't pretend they started in 1966.



that would be why I only included the QB's with SB time.. non SB QB's I don't consider relevant...


Johnny Unitas isn't relevant? :shock:

2 NFL Championships in 58, 59 and 2 Super Bowl appearances in 68 and 71 (partial games)



whoops!

Forgot about Johnny U.. I Was think more about Y.A. Title..

I agree Smith is no Aikman... but I also think given his current situation.. writing him off is a bit premature..


It's not premature AT ALL. Alex Smith is entering his 7th NFL season (only starting 16 games 2 times) with only one good season to show for. To his credit, the 9'ers were rebuilding ever since he was takin first overall in 2005, but 7 years into the league, he is now a veteran and with San Francisco now dominating the defensive ranks and probably will for years to come led by Patrick Willis (who's the next Ray Lewis in terms of importance to that unit) they also found their head coach for the long-run & controversy already started this off-season with the 9'ers looking into bringing in other QB's that shocked Smith.

I believe Smith will be on a very, very short leash, one Jim Harbaugh isn't going to be patient with entering his 2nd season as head coach. Following an NFC Championship appearance is very tough and givin' the style of Alex Smith, they may not get there again with him as their starting QB.

I've said it once that he will get the opportunity to prove to the NFL and to the 9'ers he could turn into a nice veteran QB, but he will only have maybe half a season to do so.

If we are comparing him to other quarterbacks, then I'd say his time in San Fran and his overall career reminds me of Kordell Stewart's. A heavily scrutinized QB that underperformed most of his career that only has a couple good seasons to show for it while losing Conference Title games at home, all while dealing with different coordinators throughout his time under center and being on a short leash with always having to prove and look over his shoulder. Smith will be under major pressure entering '12.
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Postby Liam » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:53 am

Bring Ryan Leaf back into the NFL. He needs a job, and he's obviously not good at crime. :twisted: :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:03 am

Liam wrote:Bring Ryan Leaf back into the NFL. He needs a job, and he's obviously not good at crime. :twisted: :lol:


He could have his own show titled "America's Dumbest Criminals & QBs".
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Postby Liam » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:10 am

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Liam wrote:Bring Ryan Leaf back into the NFL. He needs a job, and he's obviously not good at crime. :twisted: :lol:


He could have his own show titled "America's Dumbest Criminals & QBs".


Fox's answer to "Hard Knocks". :lol:
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Postby slucero » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:05 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:
slucero wrote:
AR wrote:
slucero wrote:
AR wrote:Keep in mind NFL Championships before the Super Bowl in this discussion. Major League Baseball doesn't pretend they started in 1966.



that would be why I only included the QB's with SB time.. non SB QB's I don't consider relevant...


Johnny Unitas isn't relevant? :shock:

2 NFL Championships in 58, 59 and 2 Super Bowl appearances in 68 and 71 (partial games)



whoops!

Forgot about Johnny U.. I Was think more about Y.A. Title..

I agree Smith is no Aikman... but I also think given his current situation.. writing him off is a bit premature..


It's not premature AT ALL. Alex Smith is entering his 7th NFL season (only starting 16 games 2 times) with only one good season to show for. To his credit, the 9'ers were rebuilding ever since he was takin first overall in 2005, but 7 years into the league, he is now a veteran and with San Francisco now dominating the defensive ranks and probably will for years to come led by Patrick Willis (who's the next Ray Lewis in terms of importance to that unit) they also found their head coach for the long-run & controversy already started this off-season with the 9'ers looking into bringing in other QB's that shocked Smith.

I believe Smith will be on a very, very short leash, one Jim Harbaugh isn't going to be patient with entering his 2nd season as head coach. Following an NFC Championship appearance is very tough and givin' the style of Alex Smith, they may not get there again with him as their starting QB.

I've said it once that he will get the opportunity to prove to the NFL and to the 9'ers he could turn into a nice veteran QB, but he will only have maybe half a season to do so.

If we are comparing him to other quarterbacks, then I'd say his time in San Fran and his overall career reminds me of Kordell Stewart's. A heavily scrutinized QB that underperformed most of his career that only has a couple good seasons to show for it while losing Conference Title games at home, all while dealing with different coordinators throughout his time under center and being on a short leash with always having to prove and look over his shoulder. Smith will be under major pressure entering '12.



I think I said that here:


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