Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

[tater1977]

Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

No, it wouldn't. Does anyone really believe this? Whatever Perry says, goes. As soon as he expresses interest in re-joining, Arnel would be sent packing on a slow boat back to Manilla. Creatively, at this point, I would welcome a Perry return. His songwriting touch is missed.

In reality, what would Steve Perry do WITH Journey, at this point?

Fixed that for you...

[Michigan Girl]

Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

No, it wouldn't. Does anyone really believe this? Whatever Perry says, goes. As soon as he expresses interest in re-joining, Arnel would be sent packing on a slow boat back to Manilla. Creatively, at this point, I would welcome a Perry return. His songwriting touch is missed.

In reality, what would Journey do WITH Steve Perry, at this point? Not much, would be my guess. His return would be entirely pointless unless it was for a farewell tour. Journey would not throw away their future touring potential and gamble on what Steve would or wouldn't do. No way would they launch Arnel. Too big of a gamble and my bet says it would be a losing one. Therefore I must respectfully disagree with you.

You are completely missing the point.
#1 noone here seems to believe that
Steve Perry is coming back to Journey because
#2 Steve Perry has not made these suggestions. '
'Tis Neal throwing that out there to
a.) make the public aware of the sweet guy he is and
b.) to take a swipe at Perry w/his so called devotion to Arnel
We are saying
#1. Neal you are not fooling us
if If IF SP wanted to return to the stage w/Journey, he would, and
B. if If IF SP refused to take that stage w/a replacement, Arnel would
be asked to step down, back ...get lost.
Is that clear enough?!? It's just the way it would be if it ever happened.
Your boyfriend would cheat on you w/his ex-wife.

[G.I.Jim]

Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

No, it wouldn't. Does anyone really believe this? Whatever Perry says, goes. As soon as he expresses interest in re-joining, Arnel would be sent packing on a slow boat back to Manilla. Creatively, at this point, I would welcome a Perry return. His songwriting touch is missed.

In reality, what would Journey do WITH Steve Perry, at this point? Not much, would be my guess. His return would be entirely pointless unless it was for a farewell tour. Journey would not throw away their future touring potential and gamble on what Steve would or wouldn't do. No way would they launch Arnel. Too big of a gamble and my bet says it would be a losing one. Therefore I must respectfully disagree with you.

You are completely missing the point.
#1 noone here seems to believe that
Steve Perry is coming back to Journey because
#2 Steve Perry has not made these suggestions. '
'Tis Neal throwing that out there to
a.) make the public aware of the sweet guy he is and
b.) to take a swipe at Perry w/his so called devotion to Arnel
We are saying
#1. Neal you are not fooling us
if If IF SP wanted to return to the stage w/Journey, he would, and
B. if If IF SP refused to take that stage w/a replacement, Arnel would
be asked to step down, back ...get lost.
Is that clear enough?!? It's just the way it would be if it ever happened.
Your boyfriend would cheat on you w/his ex-wife.

Ohhhhh SNAP! I have to side with MG here. If Perry wanted back, Arnel would be cast aside like a three day old burrito. Neal would be like "Arnel who?".

[steveo777]

Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

No, it wouldn't. Does anyone really believe this? Whatever Perry says, goes. As soon as he expresses interest in re-joining, Arnel would be sent packing on a slow boat back to Manilla. Creatively, at this point, I would welcome a Perry return. His songwriting touch is missed.

In reality, what would Journey do WITH Steve Perry, at this point? Not much, would be my guess. His return would be entirely pointless unless it was for a farewell tour. Journey would not throw away their future touring potential and gamble on what Steve would or wouldn't do. No way would they launch Arnel. Too big of a gamble and my bet says it would be a losing one. Therefore I must respectfully disagree with you.

You are completely missing the point.
#1 noone here seems to believe that
Steve Perry is coming back to Journey because
#2 Steve Perry has not made these suggestions. '
'Tis Neal throwing that out there to
a.) make the public aware of the sweet guy he is and
b.) to take a swipe at Perry w/his so called devotion to Arnel
We are saying
#1. Neal you are not fooling us
if If IF SP wanted to return to the stage w/Journey, he would, and
B. if If IF SP refused to take that stage w/a replacement, Arnel would
be asked to step down, back ...get lost.
Is that clear enough?!? It's just the way it would be if it ever happened.
Your boyfriend would cheat on you w/his ex-wife.

Ohhhhh SNAP! I have to side with MG here. If Perry wanted back, Arnel would be cast aside like a three day old burrito. Neal would be like "Arnel who?".

No, I think all of you are deluded that this would ever be feasible. It won't ever happen. Everyone knows Steve wouldn't be able to tour. He probably wouldn't anyway. All you'd have is a Journey with a blown head gasket. That would be like driving a tour bus with flat tires. So to anyone who thinks Perry could just snap his fingers and have the current Journey bow to that demand....well, guys, that's just nutty thinking.

[Don]

The thing is, the only ones in Journey who actually need to continue because of the money are the LEAST creative of the bunch. Pineda and Castronova (and maybe even Ross) have to tour because that's all they are good at.
Even during the band's downtime, these particular guys don't expand on their options preferring to keep riding the cover circuits instead of showing that they can do something beyond singing 30 year old songs written in another era by other people.

All the NEW Journey has done is keep repainting the old shell on the classic Journey engine. Even Pineda's documentary had to go to back to the nostalgia well for a vintage 1981 song title because it wouldn't be able to be noticed on its own merits.

In a way, Arnel has ironically helped kill the band's creative gene more than jump start it due to his ability to perfectly mimic and resell a product with a 1981 date stamp on the bottom.

[Yoda]

Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

No, it wouldn't. Does anyone really believe this? Whatever Perry says, goes. As soon as he expresses interest in re-joining, Arnel would be sent packing on a slow boat back to Manilla. Creatively, at this point, I would welcome a Perry return. His songwriting touch is missed.

In reality, what would Journey do WITH Steve Perry, at this point? Not much, would be my guess. His return would be entirely pointless unless it was for a farewell tour. Journey would not throw away their future touring potential and gamble on what Steve would or wouldn't do. No way would they launch Arnel. Too big of a gamble and my bet says it would be a losing one. Therefore I must respectfully disagree with you.

You are completely missing the point.
#1 noone here seems to believe that
Steve Perry is coming back to Journey because
#2 Steve Perry has not made these suggestions. '
'Tis Neal throwing that out there to
a.) make the public aware of the sweet guy he is and
b.) to take a swipe at Perry w/his so called devotion to Arnel
We are saying
#1. Neal you are not fooling us
if If IF SP wanted to return to the stage w/Journey, he would, and
B. if If IF SP refused to take that stage w/a replacement, Arnel would
be asked to step down, back ...get lost.
Is that clear enough?!? It's just the way it would be if it ever happened.
Your boyfriend would cheat on you w/his ex-wife.

Ohhhhh SNAP! I have to side with MG here. If Perry wanted back, Arnel would be cast aside like a three day old burrito. Neal would be like "Arnel who?".

No, I think all of you are deluded that this would ever be feasible. It won't ever happen. Everyone knows Steve wouldn't be able to tour. He probably wouldn't anyway. All you'd have is a Journey with a blown head gasket. That would be like driving a tour bus with flat tires. So to anyone who thinks Perry could just snap his fingers and have the current Journey bow to that demand....well, guys, that's just nutty thinking.

Again, nobody is saying that this IS going to happen, this is just a hypothetical situation. In my opinion, there's no way Perry would come back to Journey unless he knew he could tour and perform with them. And if Perry COULD tour and perform with Journey, Journey wouldn't need Arnel.

[steveo777]

Again, nobody is saying that this IS going to happen, this is just a hypothetical situation. In my opinion, there's no way Perry would come back to Journey unless he knew he could tour and perform with them. And if Perry COULD tour and perform with Journey, Journey wouldn't need Arnel.

True on the last part. But, let me ask you this.....how close to the original key would Perry be able to sing? Full step, two steps down? You guys think Faithfully plods along now, I can't even begin to imagine what it would sound like tuned down to where SP could handle it. That is just one example of why what once was will never be again.

[Don]

Again, nobody is saying that this IS going to happen, this is just a hypothetical situation. In my opinion, there's no way Perry would come back to Journey unless he knew he could tour and perform with them. And if Perry COULD tour and perform with Journey, Journey wouldn't need Arnel.

True on the last part. But, let me ask you this.....how close to the original key would Perry be able to sing? Full step, two steps down? You guys think Faithfully plods along now, I can't even begin to imagine what it would sound like tuned down to where SP could handle it. That is just one example of why what once was will never be again.

But would anyone care? If it's the original singer, it doesn't really matter what key it's in. The replacement singers are the ones who need to sound like the recording as that is why they were hired in the first place. It certainly wasn't for songwriting or any other skills that Arnel was brought on board for.

Look at VH. David Lee Roth can't even sing anymore but that isn't hurting Van Halen's tour numbers.


I don't believe Journey would be playing stadiums again with Perry but I am sure that they at least wouldn't be playing these smaller venues this summer with two opening acts of this caliber.

Ultimately though, I don't see anything changing from what it is now. Journey will continue to be an upper 2nd tier band, playing the hits in the same arenas from here on out. Arnel will continue to be a cover singer away from Journey and beyond vocals, a minimal contributor when he's with the band while Perry will stay retired, signing the occasional licensing agreement from here on out to make sure that he maintains some type of connection to the Journey brand as the renown vocalist from their glory days.

[Yoda]

Again, nobody is saying that this IS going to happen, this is just a hypothetical situation. In my opinion, there's no way Perry would come back to Journey unless he knew he could tour and perform with them. And if Perry COULD tour and perform with Journey, Journey wouldn't need Arnel.

True on the last part. But, let me ask you this.....how close to the original key would Perry be able to sing? Full step, two steps down? You guys think Faithfully plods along now, I can't even begin to imagine what it would sound like tuned down to where SP could handle it. That is just one example of why what once was will never be again.

Don's already alluded to this, but in the grand scheme of things, I don't believe the fans would even care if Perry was singing in the original key or not. For one thing, Perry wouldn't tour with the band if he felt he couldn't sing the songs well enough to do them justice. So, if Perry had to have the songs severely down-tuned, he wouldn't go through with it. But, keeping with the hypothetical situation that he would tour again with Journey, I would assume that meant that Perry could cover the songs well enough to where they still sounded pretty good live. I wouldn't expect Journey to have such a vigorous tour schedule, because the band could probably cover half the touring dates and still make about as much money. After all, having Perry back and on stage with the band would be an epic thing for them, and a pretty good cash cow at that. I know I would make the effort to see the band with Perry, even if it meant having to do some overnight travel to the nearest city.

[Gideon]

how close to the original key would Perry be able to sing?

Not even.

[Michigan Girl]

how close to the original key would Perry be able to sing?

Not even.

There you go, you just had to wait for the right
person to arrive to get the answer you were waiting for/wanted to hear, while ignoring
everything everyone else in this thread was saying to you.

Don is correct ...except for a few of you newer fans, noone would care.

[Lora]

You are completely missing the point.
#1 noone here seems to believe that
Steve Perry is coming back to Journey because
#2 Steve Perry has not made these suggestions. '
'Tis Neal throwing that out there to
a.) make the public aware of the sweet guy he is and
b.) to take a swipe at Perry w/his so called devotion to Arnel
We are saying
#1. Neal you are not fooling us
if If IF SP wanted to return to the stage w/Journey, he would, and
B. if If IF SP refused to take that stage w/a replacement, Arnel would
be asked to step down, back ...get lost.
Is that clear enough?!? It's just the way it would be if it ever happened.
Your boyfriend would cheat on you w/his ex-wife.

Excellent post!

[Ritchie]

Doesn`t matter if Perry can sing or not...the band understands that when the moment is there and they call it a day it would be appropriate that the guy who gave them their biggest success is there to drop that final curtain....and it also would be appropriate that all former members who ever were part of Journey would be there too.

[Gideon]

There you go, you just had to wait for the right
person to arrive to get the answer you were waiting for/wanted to hear, while ignoring
everything everyone else in this thread was saying to you.

Don is correct ...except for a few of you newer fans, noone would care.

I answered; the others equivocated. They may pull their punches when it comes to SP, but I won't. It strains credulity that the voice I heard on TBF would, almost 20 years later, suddenly become the voice I heard on Escape.

Of course, SP said not too long ago that he could work his voice up to par again if need be for a tour, so maybe I'm wrong.

the band understands that when the moment is there and they call it a day it would be appropriate that the guy who gave them their biggest success is there to drop that final curtain....

Agreed, Cain should definitely be there.

[Rick]

There you go, you just had to wait for the right
person to arrive to get the answer you were waiting for/wanted to hear, while ignoring
everything everyone else in this thread was saying to you.

Don is correct ...except for a few of you newer fans, noone would care.

I answered; the others equivocated. They may pull their punches when it comes to SP, but I won't. It strains credulity that the voice I heard on TBF would, almost 20 years later, suddenly become the voice I heard on Escape.

Of course, SP said not too long ago that he could work his voice up to par again if need be for a tour, so maybe I'm wrong.

the band understands that when the moment is there and they call it a day it would be appropriate that the guy who gave them their biggest success is there to drop that final curtain....

Agreed, Cain should definitely be there.

[Gideon]

I know, I know... I'll pay for that one.

[steveo777]

I know, I know... I'll pay for that one.

Andrew should implement a delay feature, so when you are getting ready to post something that you will probably pay for, you get a window that pops up and asks.....do you really want to post this?

That should cover about 46% of my posts here.

[Ritchie]

the band understands that when the moment is there and they call it a day it would be appropriate that the guy who gave them their biggest success is there to drop that final curtain....

Agreed, Cain should definitely be there.

You got me there.
You know I`m not a Perryloon,I acknowledge the importance of every bandmember past and present.
I`m just saying it would be great if the band could wrap things up nicely with ALL ex members...but it`s not a big deal to me if this would never happen.

[Michigan Girl]

There you go, you just had to wait for the right
person to arrive to get the answer you were waiting for/wanted to hear, while ignoring
everything everyone else in this thread was saying to you.

Don is correct ...except for a few of you newer fans, noone would care.

I answered; the others equivocated. They may pull their punches when it comes to SP, but I won't. It strains credulity that the voice I heard on TBF would, almost 20 years later, suddenly become the voice I heard on Escape.
Of course, SP said not too long ago that he could work his voice up to par again if need be for a tour, so maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah ...you bad.

Noone "equivocated", we were not speaking of Perry's ability to sing ...it's irrelevant, he would be back regardless ~IF
he wanted to come back. It hurts, I know.

the band understands that when the moment is there and they call it a day it would be appropriate that the guy who gave them their biggest success is there to drop that final curtain....

Agreed, Cain should definitely be there.

I don't think Cain would miss sharing the stage
with the great SP and I'm pretty sure Perry would
want him present.

You and Steveo make a great
tag team.

[YoungJRNY]

Perry's done forever.

[Gideon]

Yeah ...you bad.

What can I say? I crave your discipline.

Noone "equivocated",

You gave a noncommittal response that avoided the actual question.

we were not speaking of Perry's ability to sing ...it's irrelevant, he would be back regardless ~IF
he wanted to come back. It hurts, I know.

Not as much as the fact that Perry can't sing anymore hurts you, I'm sure.

Agreed, Cain should definitely be there.

I don't think Cain would miss sharing the stage
with the great SP and I'm pretty sure Perry would
want him present.[/quote]

Exactly, Perry knows who made him.

You and Steveo make a great
tag team.

That's what his wife says, too.

[Gideon]

I know, I know... I'll pay for that one.

Andrew should implement a delay feature, so when you are getting ready to post something that you will probably pay for, you get a window that pops up and asks.....do you really want to post this?

That should cover about 46% of my posts here.

That's a pretty conservative estimate.

[scarygirl]

Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

No, it wouldn't. Does anyone really believe this? Whatever Perry says, goes. As soon as he expresses interest in re-joining, Arnel would be sent packing on a slow boat back to Manilla. Creatively, at this point, I would welcome a Perry return. His songwriting touch is missed.

In reality, what would Journey do WITH Steve Perry, at this point? Not much, would be my guess. His return would be entirely pointless unless it was for a farewell tour. Journey would not throw away their future touring potential and gamble on what Steve would or wouldn't do. No way would they launch Arnel. Too big of a gamble and my bet says it would be a losing one. Therefore I must respectfully disagree with you.

You are completely missing the point.
#1 noone here seems to believe that
Steve Perry is coming back to Journey because
#2 Steve Perry has not made these suggestions. '
'Tis Neal throwing that out there to
a.) make the public aware of the sweet guy he is and
b.) to take a swipe at Perry w/his so called devotion to Arnel
We are saying
#1. Neal you are not fooling us
if If IF SP wanted to return to the stage w/Journey, he would, and
B. if If IF SP refused to take that stage w/a replacement, Arnel would
be asked to step down, back ...get lost.
Is that clear enough?!? It's just the way it would be if it ever happened.
Your boyfriend would cheat on you w/his ex-wife.

Ohhhhh SNAP! I have to side with MG here. If Perry wanted back, Arnel would be cast aside like a three day old burrito. Neal would be like "Arnel who?".

Three day old burrito = EWE!

[Kor'n]

Perry's done forever.

I guess he had an "Eclipse."

[Kor'n]

There you go, you just had to wait for the right
person to arrive to get the answer you were waiting for/wanted to hear, while ignoring
everything everyone else in this thread was saying to you.

Don is correct ...except for a few of you newer fans, noone would care.

I answered; the others equivocated. They may pull their punches when it comes to SP, but I won't. It strains credulity that the voice I heard on TBF would, almost 20 years later, suddenly become the voice I heard on Escape..

I believe the "voice [you] heard on TBF" is what garnered a grammy nomination from that 47 year old so why bother with the "voice [you] heard on Escape." Anyway, Schon is into "drowning out" his singer now-a-days.

Of course, SP said not too long ago that he could work his voice up to par again if need be for a tour, so maybe I'm wrong.

the band understands that when the moment is there and they call it a day it would be appropriate that the guy who gave them their biggest success is there to drop that final curtain....

Agreed, Cain should definitely be there.

Of course, "Cain should definitely be there" so the fans may hear all of his penned post-Perry elusive hits that keep the band "rolling in the deep."

"Don't Stop Believin."

[Monker]

There you go, you just had to wait for the right
person to arrive to get the answer you were waiting for/wanted to hear, while ignoring
everything everyone else in this thread was saying to you.

Don is correct ...except for a few of you newer fans, noone would care.

I answered; the others equivocated. They may pull their punches when it comes to SP, but I won't. It strains credulity that the voice I heard on TBF would, almost 20 years later, suddenly become the voice I heard on Escape..

I believe the "voice [you] heard on TBF" is what garnered a grammy nomination from that 47 year old so why bother with the "voice [you] heard on Escape." Anyway, Schon is into "drowning out" his singer now-a-days.

Of course, SP said not too long ago that he could work his voice up to par again if need be for a tour, so maybe I'm wrong.

the band understands that when the moment is there and they call it a day it would be appropriate that the guy who gave them their biggest success is there to drop that final curtain....

Agreed, Cain should definitely be there.

Of course, "Cain should definitely be there" so the fans may hear all of his penned post-Perry elusive hits that keep the band "rolling in the deep."

"Don't Stop Believin."

It doesn't make any difference. Steve Perry will never tour again. Not solo, and certainly not with Journey.

Neal knows this which is why he has this ridiculous "open invitation" for him to join a tour at any time...and now it has to include Arnel. All that is really saying is, "We know you can't tour Steve...but we have Arnel anyway..nya, nya, nay "

So, go ahead people, make all the lame arguments you want in Steve absence. He isn't comeing back to Journey, Journey neither wants nor needs him...and he isn't touring solo. You are in fact lucky to even get some background vocals on other people's songs...and even luckier if he releases a solo album, which I do not think will happen.

[Monker]

Perry's done forever.

I guess he had an "Eclipse."

No, he damaged his voice to the point where he can't sing that well any longer...and if you read his own words, his health health issues did not stop at his hip. So, yeah, he's done with the road.

So, not an eclipse that only blocks out the sun for a few minutes. More like a ancient red giant star that had it's time as significant, maybe even bringing life to some planet. But, now he is just slowly fading away into nothingness. And, nowadays, there are younger and brighter stars that people care a lot more about, and are much more significant.

[journey361]

Pretty much everything you all have said have a little if not alot of truth with some facts that are based on Perry's retirement over the years. But i'm gonna add to that last statement concerning singers that are active today. It's true, the public needs and picks the singers or bands they like in todays music.
Perry is not considered a active singer anymore and may never be, but with all that being said, to this day and beyond, i am still searching for that one singer who gives Perry a forminable equal or really anything near. I'm 53 years old and i have never found a singer with that sound (pitch, renosance, smooth transition to registers, tone) (Perry tools) that I can honestly say is a better singer than Steve Perry. I really do not believe their will ever be. There are great singers past and present, but to and through Perry's soft palette which he formed from Infinity on, my opinion, he was the best at vocals period.

[kgdjpubs]

Perry is not considered a active singer anymore and may never be, but with all that being said, to this day and beyond, i am still searching for that one singer who gives Perry a forminable equal or really anything near. I'm 53 years old and i have never found a singer with that sound (pitch, renosance, smooth transition to registers, tone) (Perry tools) that I can honestly say is a better singer than Steve Perry. I really do not believe their will ever be. There are great singers past and present, but to and through Perry's soft palette which he formed from Infinity on, my opinion, he was the best at vocals period.

Technically, there are a few. John Farnham would certainly be in consideration, along with a few others. Perry certainly made his mark though, and there's a heck of a lot of singers who count him as an influence, which will be his lasting legacy above and beyond the recorded songs.

[annie89509]

Reunion With STEVE PERRY Would Include ARNEL PINEDA

No, it wouldn't. Does anyone really believe this? Whatever Perry says, goes. As soon as he expresses interest in re-joining, Arnel would be sent packing on a slow boat back to Manilla. Creatively, at this point, I would welcome a Perry return. His songwriting touch is missed.

In reality, what would Journey do WITH Steve Perry, at this point? Not much, would be my guess. His return would be entirely pointless unless it was for a farewell tour. Journey would not throw away their future touring potential and gamble on what Steve would or wouldn't do. No way would they launch Arnel. Too big of a gamble and my bet says it would be a losing one. Therefore I must respectfully disagree with you.

You are completely missing the point.
#1 noone here seems to believe that
Steve Perry is coming back to Journey because
#2 Steve Perry has not made these suggestions. '
'Tis Neal throwing that out there to
a.) make the public aware of the sweet guy he is and
b.) to take a swipe at Perry w/his so called devotion to Arnel
We are saying
#1. Neal you are not fooling us
if If IF SP wanted to return to the stage w/Journey, he would, and
B. if If IF SP refused to take that stage w/a replacement, Arnel would
be asked to step down, back ...get lost.
Is that clear enough?!? It's just the way it would be if it ever happened.
Your boyfriend would cheat on you w/his ex-wife.

MG ... poster of the year