THE DARK KNIGHT RISES... OK, I'm excited now! :)

[Gideon]

Kevin Spacey was an inspired choice for Lex, though, IMHO.

[verslibre]

Thought it was lame... The Superman trailer.

The teaser shown before The Dark Knight Rises hardly shows you anything. I thought it would showcase more of the Comic-Con footage, but nope.

I hope it will be to Superman as Nolan's films are to Batman.

Speaking of Batman, I just got back from watching TDKR. Holy cow! Tom Hardy was awesome. Bane is a scary tough mofo. Hardy got big again, like his role in Bronson. How guys like him can go from rail to tank, and back to rail, and then tank again, is a trip.

Anne Hathaway (Selina Kyle) and Marion Cotillard (Miranda Tate) are hot. Hot stuff. Serious eye candy. Hathaway was perfect.

Bale, Freeman, Oldman, of course, were all great, if a bit outshined by the new arrivals.

Can't forget Joseph Gordon-Levitt was great. I thought he'd be just another face to add texture, but nope. There's more to him. And he kicked ass in his role.

This movie has some great stunts, too. I won't ruin it, though. Everyone should see it. Nolan's concept is seen through and the trilogy has a proper ending. No pseudo-deus ex machina as in Avengers.

[brywool]

Kevin Spacey was an inspired choice for Lex, though, IMHO.

oh, yeah. He was. There just wasn't enough for him to DO.

[Gideon]

lol @ Cotillard outshining anyone in this movie. Literally everything about her was to the film's detriment.

Bale was less boring than in previous films, Freeman and Caine were wasted, Oldman was good, Hathaway & Gordon-Levitt were excellent and the true acting heart of this film. Bane stole the show and is this generation's Darth Vader. And rather like Vader, it owed very little to the man beneath the mask.

Definitely wasn't better than the Avengers: Whedon is every bit Nolan's equal in the storytelling department and a vastly wittier man (Batman's cliched response to Bane at the climax: "No, I came to stop you!" made more than a few people chuckle at my screening), the main characters were stronger and better utilized. The only thing that the TDKR had in its favor was a better villain and Nolan very nearly ruined that in the end.

The Avengers was ab 8.5 or 9/10. This was 8ish. It's not a completely lopsided spectacle, but hey, at least TDKR is DARK and GRIM and EDGY.

[verslibre]

Avengers is a very cool movie, but it has some issues, not the least of which is that ending which is basically "Phantom Menace, Part Deux." Whedon must have had writer's block something fierce.


And it was really funny seeing a mortal superhero (Captain America) have to "instruct" a Norse god/otherworlder (Thor) on "how" to prevent more Chitauri from coming through the portal. Thor should have been wayyyyyyy on top of that. For as much as people complain about Nolan, his trilogy is pretty untouchable in the superhero film dept. for the time being.


I loved Cotillard. TDKR has an awesome cast. I wasn't originally sold on Levitt, but he owned it (and then some).

[Gideon]

That's right, being DARK and GRIM and EDGY equates to spectacular narratives, acting, direction, cinematography, etc.
You and the rest of the Starbucks mafia never cease to entertain with your bizarre, contorted qualifications for what does and what does not constitute a film.

I'll take 3 dimensional characters and you can have the rest with black leathers and gimp masks.

I still say Cotillard was unnecessary. She very nearly neutered Bane's awesomeness.

[verslibre]

That's right, being DARK and GRIM and EDGY equates to spectacular narratives, acting, direction, cinematography, etc.
You and the rest of the Starbucks mafia never cease to entertain with your bizarre, contorted qualifications for what does and what does not constitute a film.

Nah, you're getting carried away. And I don't give Starbucks one red cent. For many years now.

'Sides, if you don't like what Nolan does, why did you go see the movie? Black leather, vinyl, whatever...Anne Hathaway can wear it for me, anytime. She looked a-may-ziiiing!!

And don't worry, the next incarnation of Batman will probably be halfway between "Nolan edgy" and "Burton campy"...just for you, baby!

I also don't get the comparisons to Avengers. Wait for the eventual Justice League movie and compare the team films.

The Fantastic Farce flix will always be on the bottom. A Doctor Doom sans Latverian accent...

[Gideon]

Nolan is great and so are his films. I just don't think he belches excellence and shits rainbows (they're not nearly DARK and GRIM and EDGY enough). Likewise, I don't think his movies are perfect and untouchable.

Daredevil and the Punisher sequel rivaled the Fantastic Four in their awfulness.

[verslibre]

Nolan is great and so are his films. I just don't think he belches excellence and shits rainbows (they're not nearly DARK and GRIM and EDGY enough). Likewise, I don't think his movies are perfect and untouchable.

Daredevil and the Punisher sequel rivaled the Fantastic Four in their awfulness.

Dude, Batman isn't Chihuahuaman. Could Chihuahuaman be DARK and GRIM and EDGY?

Rip said Punisher: War Zone was pretty good so it must be decent.

[Gideon]

Batman not being especially lighthearted isn't a problem. The problem is the pack mentality propagated by the Hot Topic militia that DARKer and EDGier and GRIMmer translates to quality stories. Like I said, in the real world, chocolate can be as trite as vanilla.

[verslibre]

Batman not being especially lighthearted isn't a problem. The problem is the pack mentality propagated by the Hot Topic militia that DARKer and EDGier and GRIMmer translates to quality stories. Like I said, in the real world, chocolate can be as trite as vanilla.

Amazing Spider-Man is darker than its predecessors, IMO. Good movie, though Garfield looks too pretty to be a geek.

[YoungJRNY]

Dark Knight Rises. That's all that needs to be said. PERIOD. My mind is still blown away the next day. Nothing will EVER top the Dark Knight trilogy as the 3 movies on their own merit will forever be impactful on how the industry goes about filming movies. Unreal. My girlfriend even enjoyed the shit out of it & THAT'S saying something. One of the most complete movies of our new generation. Defiantly tops my list as a POWERFUL favorite of ALL-TIME. I said earlier that TDKR is going to TRUMP TDK. IMHO, as far as script-wise is concerned, TDK isn't even on the same horizon as TDKR. I love how everything comes together. A beautiful trilogy.

With Nolan overlooking the Man of Steel and with Zack Snyder being THEE best visual director in Hollywood (there will be better visuals for Superman, which it should) there's no reason the next Man of Steel series won't hit the same success.

[YoungJRNY]

verslibre, not sure about what you thought of this, but ....

(SPOILER!!!!)






the scene where The Bats shows up from above and helps Catwoman fend off Bane's cronies was powerful from a verbiage standpoint. What Batman said might of been over-looked by the general public but it stood out for me. When Catwoman was going to go off on the cronies, Batman knocked the weapons out of her hands and said "NO GUNS, NO KILLING...."

That was a great moment for me. Great homage to the character (to NEVER kill) that we didn't see in the first 2 flicks as Batman seemed more people-personal in this one once he donned the cowl again. Also loved the respects in the first fight scene with Bane where he use's his knee to jack Batman's back up.

There was more to Bale's Batman here. Loved his performance. Right now, I can't make up my mind to who had the best overall performance. Bale, Hardy, Oldman, Hathaway, Levitt & even Michael Caine's Alfred stole the show in some moments. Bravo for Nolan and company for giving us this outstanding movie.

[verslibre]

verslibre, not sure about what you thought of this, but ....

(SPOILER!!!!)






the scene where The Bats shows up from above and helps Catwoman fend off Bane's cronies was powerful from a verbiage standpoint. What Batman said might of been over-looked by the general public but it stood out for me. When Catwoman was going to go off on the cronies, Batman knocked the weapons out of her hands and said "NO GUNS, NO KILLING...."

That was a great moment for me. Great homage to the character (to NEVER kill) that we didn't see in the first 2 flicks as Batman seemed more people-personal in this one once he donned the cowl again.

Mos' def'! There's that famous panel in Miller's The Dark Knight Returns where Batman breaks a shotgun and exclaims "This is the weapon of the enemy! We will not use it!"

Also loved the respects in the first fight scene with Bane where he use's his knee to jack Batman's back up.

Yeah, I was waiting for it. I wasn't sure if Nolan was actually going to do it. That was a great scene.

And Batman and the bomb...what a homage. You get it, right?

[YoungJRNY]

And Batman and the bomb...what a homage. You get it, right?

Please tell me you're not talking about Adam West running through a village, holding a lit bomb over his head running frantically to God knows where? Lmao.



The laughter is TOO MUCH for me to handle right now.

[verslibre]

I had a GIF ready to go but yours is better. It's longer by 1.5 seconds.

[verslibre]

What the hell.

[YoungJRNY]

Oh my GAWD. Classic.

BTW: Watch this NOW before WB takes it down.

A clear leaked bootleg of the Man of Steel trailer at Comic Con! OUTSTANDING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DoW5F64_Jg

GO!

NOW!

[verslibre]

They should have tossed a couple more nuggets into the teaser that's in theaters, like Superman getting tossed into that vault.

Now what's that pile of skulls all about? Hmmm...

[YoungJRNY]

They should have tossed a couple more nuggets into the teaser that's in theaters, like Superman getting tossed into that vault.

Now what's that pile of skulls all about? Hmmm...

I'm thinking he's hallucinating or maybe having nightmare's. Maybe right after he learned he's from another world and him being alone on Earth, he's trapped into the souls and skulls of his Kryptonian people, trapped with nowhere to go with nobody to understand or listen as he has questions on who he really is at the core. This re-imagining is going to run pretty deep into the mindset of a young man who battles having the worlds most intense and advanced powers, but yet, powerless of being a nobody. Not to mention battling the fear of human-being's for revealing himself as Superman, the alien (Supes handcuffed being marched down a hallway by our armed forces, obviously cooperating to our authority. Powerful struggles.) I think Man of Steel is going to define DC-Nation into their next era.

[verslibre]

They should have tossed a couple more nuggets into the teaser that's in theaters, like Superman getting tossed into that vault.

Now what's that pile of skulls all about? Hmmm...

I'm thinking he's hallucinating or maybe having nightmare's. Maybe right after he learned he's from another world and him being alone on Earth, he's trapped into the souls and skulls of his Kryptonian people, trapped with nowhere to go with nobody to understand or listen as he has questions on who he really is at the core. This re-imagining is going to run pretty deep into the mindset of a young man who battles having the worlds most intense and advanced powers, but yet, powerless of being a nobody. Not to mention battling the fear of human-being's for revealing himself as Superman, the alien (Supes handcuffed being marched down a hallway by our armed forces, obviously cooperating to our authority. Powerful struggles.) I think Man of Steel is going to define DC-Nation into their next era.

That's we need, a movie that looks at him coping with who he actually is beyond "Cool! I can fly! And check out my house! Joan Rivers is gonna be SO jealous!"

Maybe those are Kryptonite handcuffs!

[The Sushi Hunter]

In other words, a movie that can be read into from many different angles.

[YoungJRNY]

A quick Comic-Con collage I put together quickly for Man of Steel:

[verslibre]

Wow, that is quite a large figure in the frame in the bottom left-hand corner.

[YoungJRNY]

I noticed the same thing and initially thought "holy shit, DOOMSDAY" but I do believe it's Zod decked out in full Kryptonian war-armor. The way the picture is takin and watching the trailer, it even comes off as a Doomsday-like pose. What catch's my attention is how Snyder is STILL tight lipped about the 'villains' and still won't even confirm Zod. Another thing, Cavill was asked what comic books influenced him on his take of the character and the Death & Return of Superman was one of them. HMMMM.

[verslibre]

I noticed the same thing and initially thought "holy shit, DOOMSDAY" but I do believe it's Zod decked out in full Kryptonian war-armor. The way the picture is takin and watching the trailer, it even comes off as a Doomsday-like pose. What catch's my attention is how Snyder is STILL tight lipped about the 'villains' and still won't even confirm Zod. Another thing, Cavill was asked what comic books influenced him on his take of the character and the Death & Return of Superman was one of them. HMMMM.

I'd be really surprised if they featured Doomsday. I also thought it could be Zod in a suit, but I also thought of another villain: Mongul. I don't think he'll be in this movie, though.

And the thing is...why would Zod need Kryptonian battle gear on Earth? "Kneeeeel...before Zod!"

[YoungJRNY]

This movie may spend a lot of focus on Superman's two identities. Not necessarily the disguise of Clark Kent and Superman, but who he would of been on Krypton VS his current life on Earth. I think that could make for a powerful message.

With that, comes uncertainty with the world and we see clips of our military fighting against Superman as if he were the threat. If this is the case, I won't be surprised to see an Earth origin-villain turned hybrid superhuman. Someone like John Corben (Metallo, who was a military hero before being operated by a Kryptonite heart, a super warrior used to specifically take on Superman) but the first flick may be TOO early for Kryptonite, MAYBE.

Mongul is more of a multiverse type villain. A Justice League dilemma, not typically a straight Superman rogue. Same category as Darkseid so to speak.

Zod is defiantly in the Kryptonian war-suite. It's been said that the Kryptonian heritage is going to be showcased like we've never seen before so it'll be cool to see some exploding fight scenes as if it were on the destruction of Krypton. Add in yellow-sun radiation which gives them their equal power-set we're in for a treat, especially with Zack Snyder's strengths: visuals.

[verslibre]

I'm just glad the costume looks a lot better.

I hope there isn't too much slo-mo.

Supes and Lois should boff in the air, like Silk Spectre and Nite Owl in Watchmen. And then Supes can squeeze a few off like Hancock. Ventilate a brick wall or something. :lol::lol:

[Rip Rokken]

Nolan is great and so are his films. I just don't think he belches excellence and shits rainbows (they're not nearly DARK and GRIM and EDGY enough). Likewise, I don't think his movies are perfect and untouchable.

Daredevil and the Punisher sequel rivaled the Fantastic Four in their awfulness.

Dude, Batman isn't Chihuahuaman. Could Chihuahuaman be DARK and GRIM and EDGY?

Rip said Punisher: War Zone was pretty good so it must be decent.

If you haven't seen the Director's Cut of Daredevil, it's MUCH better and includes a whole separate sub-plot that was cut from the theatrical version to save time. It really helps flesh out that film. My main complaint with Daredevil was that the showdown with the Kingpin seemed so rushed and abbreviated. Other than that, I really enjoyed the film and thought Affleck did a very good job.

I believe Punisher: War Zone was truly for the fans, and was a huge surprise for me because I'd heard nothing but horrible things about it all the way back to the first review of a leaked script. Hell, even Tom Jane said he pulled out because he didn't like what they were doing with the film. But it turned out to be the best Punisher film so far, and Lexi (forget her last name) really nailed the dark satire of the Garth Ennis run of the comics - exactly what they'd tried but failed to do in the Tom Jane version. Ray Stevenson totally had the Punisher look, too.

Speaking of Tom Jane... he recently released a short 10 minute "Punisher" film that I believe he self-financed (Ron Perlman appears, too). Jane calls it his "love letter" to the character -- pretty cool! It's called "Dirty Laundry" - check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc

P.S. - saw TDKR twice - the 2nd time in IMAX. LOVED IT!!!!

[verslibre]

If you haven't seen the Director's Cut of Daredevil, it's MUCH better and includes a whole separate sub-plot that was cut from the theatrical version to save time. It really helps flesh out that film. My main complaint with Daredevil was that the showdown with the Kingpin seemed so rushed and abbreviated. Other than that, I really enjoyed the film and thought Affleck did a very good job.

I knew he'd be Daredevil before they even cast him. I hate the costume and I don't think I'll ever watch the movie again (which I've never seen 100% of). DD was one of my favorite characters from back in the day (still is), and he deserves a proper reboot. Not an easy character to portray, though.

Speaking of Tom Jane... he recently released a short 10 minute "Punisher" film that I believe he self-financed (Ron Perlman appears, too). Jane calls it his "love letter" to the character -- pretty cool! It's called "Dirty Laundry"

I saw it at Jane's RAW panel at the Con. Very cool, indeed.