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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:57 am

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If you really get into the heart and soul of this great country, it’s all about the constitution and the First Amendment and the freedom of speech.


The same Freedom that (edit to add: militant, Don't want to generalize) gays tried to supress last week. :lol: Halford gets it. He's been around and realizes where the bread is buttered.


Precisely. And there is a percentage of people out there (me being one of them) who showed their support for this company exclusively because of what the gays and their sympathizers tried to do.
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Postby RyanHippFTW » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:51 am

Gays weren't trying to suppress freedom. Why is everyone trying to make this an issue about rights and freedom of speech? Chick-fil-a donates millions to anti-gay groups and organizations. That is the issue.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:33 am

I estimate that I've spent well over $10,000 at Starbucks between 08' to current, in both the US and Japan collectively. Yet you don't see me protesting them for what they are donating to.

That's why when all hell broke lose in regards to Chick-Fil-A, everyone made it the issue about rights and freedom of speech, because that is exactly what it is.
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Postby Monker » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:53 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:I estimate that I've spent well over $10,000 at Starbucks between 08' to current, in both the US and Japan collectively. Yet you don't see me protesting them for what they are donating to.

That's why when all hell broke lose in regards to Chick-Fil-A, everyone made it the issue about rights and freedom of speech, because that is exactly what it is.


Bullshit.

It's politics. The mayors were playing politics. The calls for a boycott were politics...and the "appreciation day" was a political response to the liberal politics.

Like I said, Chick-fil-a is a political tool.
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Postby Monker » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:03 am

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RyanHippFTW wrote:Gays weren't trying to suppress freedom. Why is everyone trying to make this an issue about rights and freedom of speech? Chick-fil-a donates millions to anti-gay groups and organizations. That is the issue.




And donating money = Freedom of Speech.

Google: supreme court free speech money


Not any differend than when:

Starbucks, Google, Amazon thanked for gay marriage support

Gay rights advocates are organizing a national day of appreciation for companies which support gay marriage.

"OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos waded into a developing corporate culture war over gay marriage Friday with a $2.5-million donation to keep same-sex unions legal in Washington state,"


What's the problem Ryan? :wink:


The hypocrisy of being 'conservative' is astounding. In this case they would rather limit a person's rights then admit they have one.

Why do you believe the government has any business defining who a person can love and marry? To me, it is incredibly hypocritical to be for limiting governments power over the people but at the same time be for government being empowered to determine who a person can marry.
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:50 am

Monker wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
RyanHippFTW wrote:Gays weren't trying to suppress freedom. Why is everyone trying to make this an issue about rights and freedom of speech? Chick-fil-a donates millions to anti-gay groups and organizations. That is the issue.




And donating money = Freedom of Speech.

Google: supreme court free speech money


Not any differend than when:

Starbucks, Google, Amazon thanked for gay marriage support

Gay rights advocates are organizing a national day of appreciation for companies which support gay marriage.

"OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos waded into a developing corporate culture war over gay marriage Friday with a $2.5-million donation to keep same-sex unions legal in Washington state,"


What's the problem Ryan? :wink:


The hypocrisy of being 'conservative' is astounding. In this case they would rather limit a person's rights then admit they have one.

Why do you believe the government has any business defining who a person can love and marry? To me, it is incredibly hypocritical to be for limiting governments power over the people but at the same time be for government being empowered to determine who a person can marry.





The definition of hypocrisy: wanting the government to stay out of your personal life and not tell you who to love or marry, but then wants the government to recognize who you want to love or marry.
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Postby Abitaman » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:39 pm

RyanHippFTW wrote:Gays weren't trying to suppress freedom. Why is everyone trying to make this an issue about rights and freedom of speech? Chick-fil-a donates millions to anti-gay groups and organizations. That is the issue.



So? If he believes against gay marriage, does he not have the right to give money to groups that believe the same thing? Are the groups out killing people? Taking stuff away? Or are they doing the same thing gay groups are doing? Trying to promote what they believe in?
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:02 am

Monker wrote:The hypocrisy of being 'conservative' is astounding. In this case they would rather limit a person's rights then admit they have one.


After all the crap I've seen you post over the last 10+ years, you of all people really have no standing to point out anyone else's hypocrisy. :lol:
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Postby Rick » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:20 am

conversationpc wrote:
Monker wrote:The hypocrisy of being 'conservative' is astounding. In this case they would rather limit a person's rights then admit they have one.


After all the crap I've seen you post over the last 10+ years, you of all people really have no standing to point out anyone else's hypocrisy. :lol:


He's right on that point though, Dave. You have to admit that. :lol: :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:47 am

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conversationpc wrote:
Monker wrote:The hypocrisy of being 'conservative' is astounding. In this case they would rather limit a person's rights then admit they have one.


After all the crap I've seen you post over the last 10+ years, you of all people really have no standing to point out anyone else's hypocrisy. :lol:


He's right on that point though, Dave. You have to admit that. :lol: :lol:


Ummm...No.
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Postby Monker » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:39 am

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
RyanHippFTW wrote:Gays weren't trying to suppress freedom. Why is everyone trying to make this an issue about rights and freedom of speech? Chick-fil-a donates millions to anti-gay groups and organizations. That is the issue.




And donating money = Freedom of Speech.

Google: supreme court free speech money


Not any differend than when:

Starbucks, Google, Amazon thanked for gay marriage support

Gay rights advocates are organizing a national day of appreciation for companies which support gay marriage.

"OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos waded into a developing corporate culture war over gay marriage Friday with a $2.5-million donation to keep same-sex unions legal in Washington state,"


What's the problem Ryan? :wink:


The hypocrisy of being 'conservative' is astounding. In this case they would rather limit a person's rights then admit they have one.

Why do you believe the government has any business defining who a person can love and marry? To me, it is incredibly hypocritical to be for limiting governments power over the people but at the same time be for government being empowered to determine who a person can marry.





The definition of hypocrisy: wanting the government to stay out of your personal life and not tell you who to love or marry, but then wants the government to recognize who you want to love or marry.


Sure, I'll agree that an alternative solution is to eliminate all benefits of marriage the state offers citizens, including health insurance, taxes, etc...and have a federal law, or Constitutional amendment, that states that no law shall be passed favoring a person's marital status....and the courts would have to open themselves up to lawsuits from singles who have been discriminated against due to their marital status.

That doesn't bother me at all.
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Postby Yoda » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:17 pm

Monker wrote:Sure, I'll agree that an alternative solution is to eliminate all benefits of marriage the state offers citizens, including health insurance, taxes, etc...and have a federal law, or Constitutional amendment, that states that no law shall be passed favoring a person's marital status....and the courts would have to open themselves up to lawsuits from singles who have been discriminated against due to their marital status.

That doesn't bother me at all.


I've been saying this very same thing on another discussion board. The government should stay completely out of marriage. This not only means trying to define it, but to even recognize it. People should already be free to put whoever they want on their health insurance so as long as both parties agree to the stipulations. In layman's terms, let's say my brother doesn't have health insurance, can't afford to have a policy of his own, I should be able to add him to mine just like I would do my wife and children. It shouldn't have to come down to marriage.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:21 pm

Yoda wrote:I've been saying this very same thing on another discussion board. The government should stay completely out of marriage. This not only means trying to define it, but to even recognize it. People should already be free to put whoever they want on their health insurance so as long as both parties agree to the stipulations. In layman's terms, let's say my brother doesn't have health insurance, can't afford to have a policy of his own, I should be able to add him to mine just like I would do my wife and children. It shouldn't have to come down to marriage.


I don't know about that. That could be a really slippery slope. Most policies allow you to pay a certain price for your entire family, regardless of how many children you have. If you have lots of children, either biologically or from adoption, that's a good deal for you because you typically don't get penalized for additional children (perhaps some policies do???). However, to add additional people on that simply because you come to an agreement with them I don't think is feasible.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:33 am

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:The definition of hypocrisy: wanting the government to stay out of your personal life and not tell you who to love or marry, but then wants the government to recognize who you want to love or marry.


The government shouldn't be involved in this one way or the other. Voters shouldn't be involved in it either. No one is saying men or women can't get married. If you want to get married, find someone of the opposite sex to get married to. Plain and simple.

What is hypocritical is when people want to remove the word "God" from the American currency and from the Pledge of Allegiance and then want the government to step in and change the criteria of a religious belief.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:37 am

Employers both in the public and private sectors already give same sex partners all of the same benefits as they give to married male and female couples. That is no longer an argument.

Monker wrote:
pinkfloyd1973 wrote:
Monker wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
RyanHippFTW wrote:Gays weren't trying to suppress freedom. Why is everyone trying to make this an issue about rights and freedom of speech? Chick-fil-a donates millions to anti-gay groups and organizations. That is the issue.




And donating money = Freedom of Speech.

Google: supreme court free speech money


Not any differend than when:

Starbucks, Google, Amazon thanked for gay marriage support

Gay rights advocates are organizing a national day of appreciation for companies which support gay marriage.

"OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos waded into a developing corporate culture war over gay marriage Friday with a $2.5-million donation to keep same-sex unions legal in Washington state,"


What's the problem Ryan? :wink:


The hypocrisy of being 'conservative' is astounding. In this case they would rather limit a person's rights then admit they have one.

Why do you believe the government has any business defining who a person can love and marry? To me, it is incredibly hypocritical to be for limiting governments power over the people but at the same time be for government being empowered to determine who a person can marry.





The definition of hypocrisy: wanting the government to stay out of your personal life and not tell you who to love or marry, but then wants the government to recognize who you want to love or marry.


Sure, I'll agree that an alternative solution is to eliminate all benefits of marriage the state offers citizens, including health insurance, taxes, etc...and have a federal law, or Constitutional amendment, that states that no law shall be passed favoring a person's marital status....and the courts would have to open themselves up to lawsuits from singles who have been discriminated against due to their marital status.

That doesn't bother me at all.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:25 am

“Until a final decision is made, alternative options will be served at After Midnight and other Union Board events” announced a letter sent from Adriana Nassar, who is the president of the Union Board on August 2nd."

It will probably be something that promotes South of the Border infestation.

By the way, this weekend I spent right around $30 at Starbucks. I got my products, I don't give a rat's ass what they decide to do with the money.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:18 am

Fact Finder wrote:Anybody wonder why this story just simply disappeared from the main stream media after the failed kiss-in? Hmmmmm. I know why, because the cause was dealt a crushing blow on Appreciation Day and that didn't fit the media template. Election Day will look alot like the pictures that started this thread.... :wink:


98% of media is tailored information crafted to get the greatest premium results.

Like here's a incident that you probably didn't hear about from most media outlets because it's not what fits in today's idea that only white people commit crimes against other races. Plus no one really wants to hear about non-whites victimizing whites as much as they like to hear about whites victimizine non-whites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdya9uOA8Q
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Postby SF-Dano » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:41 am

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Fact Finder wrote:Anybody wonder why this story just simply disappeared from the main stream media after the failed kiss-in? Hmmmmm. I know why, because the cause was dealt a crushing blow on Appreciation Day and that didn't fit the media template. Election Day will look alot like the pictures that started this thread.... :wink:


98% of media is tailored information crafted to get the greatest premium results.

Like here's a incident that you probably didn't hear about from most media outlets because it's not what fits in today's idea that only white people commit crimes against other races. Plus no one really wants to hear about non-whites victimizing whites as much as they like to hear about whites victimizine non-whites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdya9uOA8Q


Here was CNNs spin on this story. Apparently this happened about 5 or more years ago. In comparison to the attention the Trevon Martin case has received recently, this crime was clearly barely covered nationally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJiQxjO0Q4E&feature
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:36 am

There are some really off the wall nutjobs in this world. I wonder who he was voting for this November, or can we just get a picture of the back of his car and check for bumper stickers in order to arrive at the conclusion?
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Postby Liam » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:02 am

Looks like the libs are going to extremes to defame Chick-Fil-A.
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Postby hoagiepete » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:26 am

Wonder if the lib celebs really want over half their audience to quit going to their movies, buying their records or attending their concerts because they disagree with causes they support?
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Postby verslibre » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:14 am

Fact Finder wrote:Shooting at Family Research Council in Washington, D.C.

Authorities found 50 ammunition rounds, 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches on shooting suspect - FBI affidavit via @washingtonpost


32 mins agofrom www.washingtonpost.com by editor


Oh, no. Chick-fil-A was poisoning his mind!
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:20 am

Fact Finder wrote:Shooting at Family Research Council in Washington, D.C.

Authorities found 50 ammunition rounds, 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches on shooting suspect - FBI affidavit via @washingtonpost


32 mins agofrom www.washingtonpost.com by editor


The dude is mentally ill, acting in supporting of the mentally ill.
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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:26 am

Fact Finder wrote:Moscow's top court upholds a ban on gay pride marches in the Russian capital for the next 100 years.

http://t.co/qyFfOhPa


I applaud this. I see no need to parade someone's sexuality. Please, keep your bedroom life behind closed doors. I don't want to know about it.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:28 am

Rick wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Moscow's top court upholds a ban on gay pride marches in the Russian capital for the next 100 years.

http://t.co/qyFfOhPa


I applaud this. I see no need to parade someone's sexuality. Please, keep your bedroom life behind closed doors. I don't want to know about it.


Be careful, you could be the next labeled as a "hater".
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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:31 am

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Rick wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Moscow's top court upholds a ban on gay pride marches in the Russian capital for the next 100 years.

http://t.co/qyFfOhPa


I applaud this. I see no need to parade someone's sexuality. Please, keep your bedroom life behind closed doors. I don't want to know about it.


Be careful, you could be the next labeled as a "hater".


I might get boycotted. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Don » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:37 am

Rick wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Moscow's top court upholds a ban on gay pride marches in the Russian capital for the next 100 years.

http://t.co/qyFfOhPa


I applaud this. I see no need to parade someone's sexuality. Please, keep your bedroom life behind closed doors. I don't want to know about it.


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