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Woman unloads a .38 revolver on an intruder

Postby ebake02 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:28 pm

This woman deserves a medal!

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/wo ... der/nTm7s/

Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder


LOGANVILLE, Ga. —

A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.

The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.

But the man eventually found the family.

"The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he's staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver," Chapman told Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh.

The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he moved.

"She's standing over him, and she realizes she's fired all six rounds. And the guy's telling her to quit shooting," Chapman said.

The woman ran to a neighbor's home with her children. The intruder attempted to flee in his car but crashed into a wooded area and collapsed in a nearby driveway, Chapman said.

Deputies arrested 32-year-old Atlanta resident Paul Slater in connection with the crime. Chapman said they found him on the ground saying, "Help me. I'm close to dying." Slater was taken to Gwinnett Medical Center for treatment. Chapman said Slater was shot in the face and neck.

In February, Slater was arrested on simple battery charges, according to the Gwinnett County Sheriff's Office. He has been arrested six other times in the county since 2008.

Kavanaugh was the first reporter at the scene as deputies investigated. The victim's husband told Kavanaugh he's proud of his wife. He was on the phone with her as the intruder broke in.

"My wife is a hero. She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do as responsible, prepared gun owner," Donnie Herman said.

He said he's thankful for his family's safety.

"Her life is saved, and her kids' life is saved, and that's all I'd like to say," Herman said.

Channel 2’s Amy Napier Viteri learned from Chapman late Friday night that slater has been placed on a ventilator and suffers from punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach.

He said if Slater survives the night, doctors will try to operate in the morning to repair the damage.

Chapman said Slater has four exit wounds.

Slater is currently being charged with burglary.
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Postby Archetype » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:30 pm

Love it
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Postby slucero » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:40 pm

a .38?

Her husband needs to arm her with a .9mm semi-auto... 15 rounds... no need for the state to pay for hospital costs, trail or incarceration..

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Postby ebake02 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:45 pm

A .357 Magnum with jacketed hollow points would be my weapon of choice for self protection.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:51 pm

And people want to make the argument to take away our guns. They can kiss my red neck ass!
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Postby Archetype » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:55 pm

slucero wrote:a .38?

Her husband needs to arm her with a .9mm semi-auto... 15 rounds... no need for the state to pay for hospital costs, trail or incarceration..


She needs to go to the firing range more often. No reason for the intruder to not be dead before he hits the ground with good shot placement from a .38. But, unfortunately, it seems that most people would rather compensate for poor marksmanship with more shots, lasers, red dots and all kinds of other gadgets instead of spending more time at the range.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:58 pm

Archetype wrote:
slucero wrote:a .38?

Her husband needs to arm her with a .9mm semi-auto... 15 rounds... no need for the state to pay for hospital costs, trail or incarceration..


She needs to go to the firing range more often. No reason for the perp. to not be dead before he hits the ground with good shot placement from a .38. But, unfortunately, it seems that most people would rather compensate for poor marksmanship with more shots, lasers, red dots and all kinds of other gadgets instead of spending more time at the range.


As scared as this woman was, she was probably lucky to land one shot out of five. Quite a different scenario for a mom, vs. someone who trains for combat. But, I get your point.
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Postby slucero » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:04 pm

Archetype wrote:
slucero wrote:a .38?

Her husband needs to arm her with a .9mm semi-auto... 15 rounds... no need for the state to pay for hospital costs, trail or incarceration..


She needs to go to the firing range more often. No reason for the intruder to not be dead before he hits the ground with good shot placement from a .38. But, unfortunately, it seems that most people would rather compensate for poor marksmanship with more shots, lasers, red dots and all kinds of other gadgets instead of spending more time at the range.


He was gut shot and lung shot.. then neck & head.. that's muzzle rise from a snub nosed .38. He did her a favor by standing in front of her while she shot him.

a .38 with 6 shots vs. a 9mm with a 4" barrel and 15 rounds... and some training = dead burglar

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Postby Archetype » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:38 pm

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slucero wrote:a .38?

Her husband needs to arm her with a .9mm semi-auto... 15 rounds... no need for the state to pay for hospital costs, trail or incarceration..


She needs to go to the firing range more often. No reason for the intruder to not be dead before he hits the ground with good shot placement from a .38. But, unfortunately, it seems that most people would rather compensate for poor marksmanship with more shots, lasers, red dots and all kinds of other gadgets instead of spending more time at the range.


He was gut shot and lung shot.. then neck & head.. that's muzzle rise from a snub nosed .38. He did her a favor by standing in front of her while she shot him.

a .38 with 6 shots vs. a 9mm with a 4" barrel and 15 rounds... and some training = dead burglar


.38 and some training = just as dead burglar. To go from the the gut to the head due to muzzle rise from a .38 makes it very evident that she had little to no idea what she was doing. I can easily keep all 6 shots from a .38 in a 4"-5" circle while pulling the trigger as fast as I can, and I'm not a huge strong guy. It's good that the story ended like it did, but her terrible muzzle control could have easily resulted in an injured or dead neighbor. That lack of accepting the fact that owning a firearm comes with a lot of responsibility (practicing a lot and learning how to properly and safely use it) makes the gun community as a whole look bad.
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Postby slucero » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:42 pm

Archetype wrote:
slucero wrote:
Archetype wrote:
slucero wrote:a .38?

Her husband needs to arm her with a .9mm semi-auto... 15 rounds... no need for the state to pay for hospital costs, trail or incarceration..


She needs to go to the firing range more often. No reason for the intruder to not be dead before he hits the ground with good shot placement from a .38. But, unfortunately, it seems that most people would rather compensate for poor marksmanship with more shots, lasers, red dots and all kinds of other gadgets instead of spending more time at the range.


He was gut shot and lung shot.. then neck & head.. that's muzzle rise from a snub nosed .38. He did her a favor by standing in front of her while she shot him.

a .38 with 6 shots vs. a 9mm with a 4" barrel and 15 rounds... and some training = dead burglar


.38 and some training = just as dead burglar. To go from the the gut to the head due to muzzle rise from a .38 makes it very evident that she had little to no idea what she was doing. I can easily keep all 6 shots from a .38 in a 4"-5" circle while pulling the trigger as fast as I can, and I'm not a huge strong guy. It's good that the story ended like it did, but her terrible muzzle control could have easily resulted in an injured or dead neighbor. That lack of accepting the fact that owning a firearm comes with a lot of responsibility (practicing a lot and learning how to properly and safely use it) makes the gun community as a whole look bad.


Agreed.. that's why I said training too... I'd still have preferred more rounds available... she saw one guy.. what it there was more than one?

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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:01 pm

Too bad she didn't have a gun with a 30 round clip. In the end though nice job. Bet he didn't expect that.
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Postby verslibre » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:58 pm

Now imagine if every career burglar had to factor in the possibility that the tenants of the house he plans to rob are armed...I bet a lot of them would switch careers.
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Postby Archetype » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:08 pm

slucero wrote:
Archetype wrote:
slucero wrote:
Archetype wrote:
slucero wrote:a .38?

Her husband needs to arm her with a .9mm semi-auto... 15 rounds... no need for the state to pay for hospital costs, trail or incarceration..


She needs to go to the firing range more often. No reason for the intruder to not be dead before he hits the ground with good shot placement from a .38. But, unfortunately, it seems that most people would rather compensate for poor marksmanship with more shots, lasers, red dots and all kinds of other gadgets instead of spending more time at the range.


He was gut shot and lung shot.. then neck & head.. that's muzzle rise from a snub nosed .38. He did her a favor by standing in front of her while she shot him.

a .38 with 6 shots vs. a 9mm with a 4" barrel and 15 rounds... and some training = dead burglar


.38 and some training = just as dead burglar. To go from the the gut to the head due to muzzle rise from a .38 makes it very evident that she had little to no idea what she was doing. I can easily keep all 6 shots from a .38 in a 4"-5" circle while pulling the trigger as fast as I can, and I'm not a huge strong guy. It's good that the story ended like it did, but her terrible muzzle control could have easily resulted in an injured or dead neighbor. That lack of accepting the fact that owning a firearm comes with a lot of responsibility (practicing a lot and learning how to properly and safely use it) makes the gun community as a whole look bad.


Agreed.. that's why I said training too... I'd still have preferred more rounds available... she saw one guy.. what it there was more than one?


More rounds available is always better than less rounds available, that's a good point. My home defense weapon has a 30 round magazine in it with several spares nearby, although I'd expect to fire no more than 1-2 shots if one person was trying to break in and harm me. That said, in her situation, a .38 revolver was more than adequate; her training and experience, not so much. I wouldn't tell the husband to get her a 9mm with higher capacity based off of this incident, I'd tell him to take her shooting. If she was a decent shot, that intruder would most assuredly be dead right now.
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Postby wednesday's child » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:41 am

ebake02 wrote:A .357 Magnum with jacketed hollow points would be my weapon of choice for self protection.


The beauty of ^that choice in handgun is you can load up with .38's for practice, then
ramp up to +P, and finally to .357 Magnum. I personally trust in .45 ACP out of a 1911,
however.
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Postby steveo777 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:45 pm

wednesday's child wrote:
ebake02 wrote:A .357 Magnum with jacketed hollow points would be my weapon of choice for self protection.


The beauty of ^that choice in handgun is you can load up with .38's for practice, then
ramp up to +P, and finally to .357 Magnum. I personally trust in .45 ACP out of a 1911,
however.


I guess there is no martial law in the P.I. anymore? :wink:
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Postby wednesday's child » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:00 am

steveo777 wrote:
wednesday's child wrote:
ebake02 wrote:A .357 Magnum with jacketed hollow points would be my weapon of choice for self protection.


The beauty of ^that choice in handgun is you can load up with .38's for practice, then
ramp up to +P, and finally to .357 Magnum. I personally trust in .45 ACP out of a 1911,
however.


I guess there is no martial law in the P.I. anymore? :wink:


There's no law, period. :twisted:
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Postby TotoStu » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:20 am

It'd be a lot more difficult to get away with this in the UK (that's if "getting away with it" is the right phrase). Gun laws here are very tight. If someone stabbed an intruder, or thwacked one round the side of the head with a baseball bat - it could go either way with the law. I guess you have to REALLY convince the police that it was the only thing necessary.
There was one guy who killed an intruder not long ago in the UK though, and the police didn't even charge him. Hope I'm never in a situation like that...
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:17 am

Being shot five times in the neck and head with a .38, he's very lucky to be alive. She must have just grazed him. A simple .22 to the center of the forehead will take a person out.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:20 am

wednesday's child wrote:
ebake02 wrote:A .357 Magnum with jacketed hollow points would be my weapon of choice for self protection.


The beauty of ^that choice in handgun is you can load up with .38's for practice, then
ramp up to +P, and finally to .357 Magnum. I personally trust in .45 ACP out of a 1911,
however.


Me too!
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