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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby trekman » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:11 pm

I just want to say.. Believe what you want. Just dont believe everything you read, see or hear. remember the Government is involved. ;)
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby tater1977 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:30 pm

Boston Marathon bomber manhunt: One suspect dead, second on the run, police say

By Jason Sickles and Dylan Stableford
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/bos ... 55149.html

BOSTON—A late-night police chase and shootout has ended with one marathon bombing suspect dead and another on the run here, Boston Police commissioner Ed Davis said early Friday morning. One police officer was killed and a transit officer seriously wounded during the pursuit.

Federal agents swarmed neighboring Watertown after local police were involved in a car chase and shootout with the men identified Thursday by the FBI as Suspect 1 and Suspect 2. During the pursuit, officers could be heard on police radio traffic describing the men as having grenades and other explosives.

At approximately 10:30 p.m. Thursday, a robbery was reported at a 7-Eleven in Cambridge, police officials said. An MIT officer responding to the call was shot and taken to a hospital where he was pronounced dead. The suspects fled in a stolen Mercedes-Benz. Watertown Police spotted car and engaged in gunfire with the suspects.

Suspect 1 was shot by police and later died, but the second fled on foot, leading to a tense manhunt that is still underway at this hour.

"We believe this to be a terrorist," Davis told reporters at a hastily arranged press conference in Watertown. "We believe this to be a man who has come here to kill people. We need to get him into custody."

A transit officer was seriously wounded during the exchange of gunfire, officials said.

The FBI has yet to publicly confirm a connection between the events in Watertown and the twin explosions that killed 3 people and injured 170 others at the Boston Marathon on Monday. But according to Boston Police, the suspect who remained at large was the "one in the white hat" seen in the photos released by the bureau on Thursday.

In a radio alert sent issued to fellow officers, the suspect was described as a "white male with dark complexion or a Middle Eastern male with thick curly hair wearing a charcoal gray hooded sweatshirt ... possibly with an assault rifle and explosives." Police in Watertown, Newton, Brighton and Cambridge were put on high alert as the suspect was said to be armed with a "long gun."

[Related: FBI releases photos of suspects in Boston Marathon bombings]

"We are aware of the law enforcement activity in the greater Boston area," Boston FBI spokesman Greg Comcowich said in a statement to Yahoo News. "The situation is ongoing. We are working with local authorities to determine what happened."

Worried residents in Watertown, a suburb about 10 miles from downtown Boston, were ordered to stay indoors and turn off their cell phones out of fear that they could trigger improvised explosive devices.

"Suspect 2" seen in 7-Eleven surveillance footage; police in Watertown (BPD/Getty)

Dozens of police officers, many of them off-duty, searched backyards in search of the second suspect, and a police perimeter of several blocks was established. K9 units and SWAT teams searched homes on Spruce Street as officers searched an SUV that the suspects had abandoned. Multiple devices were left in the road and two handguns were recovered, according to police scanners.

The Watertown shootout occurred after a gunfight erupted near the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where the MIT police officer was shot and later died. The campus was placed on lockdown for several hours, and students were told to remain indoors.

Shortly before 2 a.m. Friday, MIT issued a statement on its website saying that the suspect "in this evening's shooting is no longer on campus. It is now safe to resume normal activities. Please remain vigilant in the coming hours."

At approximately 3:30 a.m., Massachusetts State Police issued a plea on Twitter for residents of Watertown to lock their doors and not open them for anyone as they searched backyards and exteriors of houses there.

"Residents in and around Watertown should stay in their residences," the alert read. "Do NOT answer door unless it is an identified police officer."
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby FinnFreak » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:26 pm

AP Top News at 7:25 a.m. EST


1 of 2 Mass. bomb suspects dead; suburbs shut down


WATERTOWN, Mass. (AP)
- Two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing killed an MIT police officer, injured a transit officer in a firefight and threw explosive devices at police during their getaway attempt in a long night of violence that left one of them dead and another still at large Friday, authorities said as the manhunt intensified for a young man described as a dangerous terrorist. The suspects were identified to The Associated Press as coming from the Russian region near Chechnya, which has been plagued by an Islamic insurgency stemming from separatist wars. A law enforcement intelligence bulletin obtained by the AP identified the surviving bomb suspect as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, a 19-year-old who had been living in Cambridge, just outside Boston, and said he "may be armed and dangerous."


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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Moon Beam » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:38 pm

I never seem to learn that staying silent in other peoples say so's is a good thing so here I go, failing again!
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby JRNYMAN » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:38 pm

After last night's gunfight and subsequent killing of one of the suspects, everything in Boston and the surrounding towns/cities are literally on lockdown as they search for the remaining suspect. And when I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING!

-7 mile no fly zone around Boston for all aircraft flying below 3,000 feet
-Businesses in Boston and several other cities told to not open until further notice.
-Governor suspends all public transportation
-All schools and universities closed
-All residents of Boston were ordered to stay in their homes

A/P Wire- Authorities urged residents in Watertown, Newton, Arlington, Waltham, Belmont, Cambridge and the Allston-Brighton neighborhoods of Boston to stay indoors. At least a quarter of a million people live in those suburbs. All mass transit was shut down, and businesses were asked not to open Friday.

All modes of public transportation were shut down, including buses, subways, trolleys, commuter rail and boats, said Joe Pesaturo, spokesman for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority.

National Guard personnel and vehicles are assisting in "one of the most massive manhunts in US history.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby scarygirl » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:05 am

I am glad they caught one of the suspects. So sorry that Boston is going through all of this.

As to my previous comments, I was simply suggesting that it is wrong to trust government simply because they are government, democratic or not. Since governments are run by flawed men, it is best to keep them on their toes. The right to question the actions of our ELECTED leaders is not something to be taken lightly. Always question!!! On a personal note, I don't take any grievous harm from any comments made toward me. Opinions are like butt holes, everyone has them. :lol:
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby AR » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:31 am

FOX 25 News Boston ‏@fox25news 22m
Conn. State Police issued alert- Dzhokhar Tsarnaev may be driving a Honda CR-V bearing this license platenumber

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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:18 am

scarygirl wrote:Do you think it is possible that our own government is behind these events to further their means? I am not saying I believe that, but it has been suggested by others.


It is what it is. Today we get a more clear picture on who exactly was behind it. Two delusional brothers from Russia involved. The Elvis impersonator who sent poisonous letters to B.O, and others probably believes the government is behind this marathon bombing too.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:23 am

AR wrote:The link to the pictures I posted are from Alex Jones's "infowars" site and they are all conspiracy advocates. I'm not personally.

However those photos are interesting to say the least. Very surprised I haven't seen them on more websites.
http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/


I'm sure you will soon. Interesting because those pictures were some of the exact pix and of the same suspects that were only released late afternoon yesterday. I'm not into conspiracy theories but got to give them credit for having those pix and releasing them before anyone else did.

From what I'm hearing in the news this morning on my drive into work, there was quite a fireworks display going on in Boston throughout last night. Second brother they are still looking for is only 19 years old. God I look back at my own life when I was 19 and can't believe anyone that age would be involved in this type of thing at that age. The only thing on my mind back then was driving my first car, listening to music, playing my guitar, hangin out on the beach surfing with and but most importantly being in love with my Mexican highschool sweetheart who was teaching me to kiss good and speak Spanish.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby slucero » Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:58 am

watching the coverage on CNN... Wolf Blitzer is such a grandstanding asshole..

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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:15 am

Authorities searching for that second suspect have turned that town upside down today. My guess is they will eventually find him stinking up a crawspace or something already dead from an self inflicted wound.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby FinnFreak » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:28 am

Tomorrow, on the 20th, is the 51st anniversary of my father running the Boston Marathon & finishing 6th.

Nothing would please me more than knowing, that the individuals attacking this glorious event be captured.

And pay for their wrongs.

I wish you bombers... hell.


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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby FinnFreak » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:23 am

I'd like to see him captured alive.

That would be something.

It's easy to die.

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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby tater1977 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:30 am

Surrounded ^& alive still but around 20-30 shots fired...in Watertown ..
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby steveo777 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:34 am

It will be interesting to find out what the authorities find out about these people, once their homes and computers are investigated. Radicalized muslims would be my guess.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Don » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:53 am

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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby tater1977 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:06 am

Suspect was wounded during last nights shoot out...laying in the boat under the tarp...
cops sent in their remote controlled bud...

Last night the 26 year old had an IED strapped to his chest..
Wonder if this 19 year olds has one too...
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Don » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:43 am

They've got him in custody.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby slucero » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:00 am

So here's how it already being spun by mass media to justify further liberty abridging legislation.


"Since Al Queda is now a non-issue, we now have to fear homegrown, radicalized Islamic terrorists."


more CCTV cameras in cities, more liberty-infringing legislation, more, more, more government...

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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby FinnFreak » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:25 am

GREAT..! - It's a good start to investigate. ;)


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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby tater1977 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:40 am

Kind of ironic that it was his mom or sister that was charged with shoplifting from a
Lord & Taylors store...last year... :roll:
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby FinnFreak » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:45 am

The authorities really did a great job. IMHO.


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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Don » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:46 am

Unfortunately, a few innocent people and their families had their lives turned upside down because of cyber Sherlock Holmes erroneously tweeting them as potential suspects. The power of the internet.

This is sadly true and to the point.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-57580 ... on-faster/

"Why is CNN reporting wrong information as soon as possible? Because if CNN reports that info 20 minutes after it showed up on Twitter, the network will be skewered as pathetically behind the times. But should CNN or Fox report erroneous information in the rush to keep up, the networks will be skewered with identical glee and ruthlessness, while Reddit's slanderous and speculative threads will be congratulated as collaborative crowdsourcing that, while it may lead to devastating mistakes early on, eventually lands on the truth.
What kind of ridiculous double standard is that?"
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby JRNYMAN » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:21 pm

Fact Finder wrote:The Bomber and the 8 year old who was killed, his sister (in green jacket) also lost a leg.

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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Don » Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:07 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22228151

...Authorities captured the suspect following a tip from a resident of Franklin Street, Watertown, who emerged from his home after the lockdown was lifted and noticed blood near the boat.

Upon opening the tarp covering the boat, the resident found a man covered in blood in the stern and called police.

Bomb-squad vans and ambulances surrounded the house, while helicopters buzzed overhead.

Officers tossed flash-bang grenades into the boat to disorient the fugitive.

Police said they exchanged gunfire with the suspect for about an hour before moving in and seizing him.

A crowd near the scene cheered as he was taken into custody.

The property was apparently not searched earlier on Friday as police went door-to-door in Watertown...
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:30 am

This whole thing disgusts me beyond belief. It was refreshing to hear their uncle call them out for the fucks that they are. Most families in this situation are, at best, silent, and at worst, defiant and in denial about the nature of their relatives' acts. But as for their disgusting parents and aunt, who showed the latter traits in particularly ugly form with their conspiracy theory ravings and veiled threats, they better not ever be allowed to even THINK of coming to this country for any purpose--not even to collect the tattered body of Tamerlan or whatever his shitty name is. Ship his decaying carcass over on a rat-infested ship for all I care.

And also, I would take a GOOD, HARD, LONG look at the sow who married this monster. What did she know? What did she endorse? What did she do when the videos and pictures came out? Did she call it in, or did she stay silent? Once American and Christian, but secretly converted to Islam? I'm not sure we need her OR her daughter growing up here, regardless of the shock and surprise her family seems to be manifesting right now. Get her outta here. Seriously.

The FBI/DHS/CIA etc. need to retool and start taking things more seriously. The fact that this guy was flagged 2 years ago by ANOTHER country, interviewed by ours, let go, and then proceeded to leave the country for 6 months before returning and leaving clear electronic warning signs on public sites is disturbing, to say the least. The answer isn't to make people go watch a marathon naked. The answer is to take this shit more seriously on the front end. I don't believe these two doofuses are the only Chechen Islamic extremists flying under the radar here because they aren't as brown as the average terrorist or aren't walking around decked out in full Islamic dress. In fact, I vaguely recall some training handbook or strategic plan being collected in either Eastern Europe or the Middle East after a raid on a terrorist hideout/camp 6 or 7 years back. One of the strategic planning points they found indicated a plan to recruit more Western-looking, lighter-skinned, Americanized people to come over here and do exactly what these idiots did.

My solution is simple: I don't trust ANY Muslims, period.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:47 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:This whole thing disgusts me beyond belief. It was refreshing to hear their uncle call them out for the fucks that they are. Most families in this situation are, at best, silent, and at worst, defiant and in denial about the nature of their relatives' acts. But as for their disgusting parents and aunt, who showed the latter traits in particularly ugly form with their conspiracy theory ravings and veiled threats, they better not ever be allowed to even THINK of coming to this country for any purpose--not even to collect the tattered body of Tamerlan or whatever his shitty name is. Ship his decaying carcass over on a rat-infested ship for all I care.

And also, I would take a GOOD, HARD, LONG look at the sow who married this monster. What did she know? What did she endorse? What did she do when the videos and pictures came out? Did she call it in, or did she stay silent? Once American and Christian, but secretly converted to Islam? I'm not sure we need her OR her daughter growing up here, regardless of the shock and surprise her family seems to be manifesting right now. Get her outta here. Seriously.

The FBI/DHS/CIA etc. need to retool and start taking things more seriously. The fact that this guy was flagged 2 years ago by ANOTHER country, interviewed by ours, let go, and then proceeded to leave the country for 6 months before returning and leaving clear electronic warning signs on public sites is disturbing, to say the least. The answer isn't to make people go watch a marathon naked. The answer is to take this shit more seriously on the front end. I don't believe these two doofuses are the only Chechen Islamic extremists flying under the radar here because they aren't as brown as the average terrorist or aren't walking around decked out in full Islamic dress. In fact, I vaguely recall some training handbook or strategic plan being collected in either Eastern Europe or the Middle East after a raid on a terrorist hideout/camp 6 or 7 years back. One of the strategic planning points they found indicated a plan to recruit more Western-looking, lighter-skinned, Americanized people to come over here and do exactly what these idiots did.

My solution is simple: I don't trust ANY Muslims, period.


Couldn't have said it better. 8)


This is really telling:

Local reporter Ted Nesi of WPRI-TV 12 this afternoon tweeted: 'Suffolk U. confirms to me that a Katherine O. Russell of No. Kingstown RI was a student there from Fall 2007-Spring 2010. Did not graduate.'

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Paula Gillette, 59, a mother-of-one who lives over the road from the Russells, said: 'Before Katherine went to Suffolk she wore normal clothes like jeans, t-shirts and skirts but when she came back she was wearing a white headscarf.
'I don't think her family are religious.
'I have no idea what she is going to tell her kid. How can you tell them? How can you explain it?
'Who knows if she knew anything about what he was doing? We just don't know'.


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I think she knew EXACTLY what was going on and was too brainwashed to say otherwise. She drops out of school after 3 years? Completely normal before meeting him? Family not even religious? This is like some Homeland shit here. I'd have this cu n t in an interrogation room as we speak.

And this:


Ashley Stackowitz was a freshman at Suffolk University when she met Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the brothers suspected of being involved in the deadly marathon bombing. He and her roommate began dating.

At first, she said, Stackowitz would hang out with them too, going drinking at bars like the Underbar in Boston. He'd give them rides in his nice car and he would pay for things.

But eventually, Stackowitz said, she felt uncomfortable around Tsarnaev. She described him as the clear leader of his group of friends, with "an air of power." He was "wicked intense," she described, and at times forceful with women.

She said he had a thick Russian accent, but was comfortable speaking English. She said he was close to his family, particularly a sister and his mother, whom she remembered he lived with. She never heard him discuss religion or international affairs.

Her roommate broke up with him, but they got back together, though her friends warned against it. Stackowitz says her roommate eventually started wearing a headscarf and became a practicing Muslim.

Stackowitz said her roommate told her she'd dropped out of school when she got pregnant. The last time they talked in 2011, her roommate told her she'd married Tsarnaev at City Hall and had a daughter. She was considering changing her name to a Russian or Muslim name.

Stackowitz said they haven't been in touch since. When she tries to call her old roommate now, her messages go to a full voicemail.



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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:49 am

Also, can someone please explain to me how they keep reporting, without questioning, that the 19-year-old dipshit was a "second-year med student"? In this country, unless you are a complete prodigy, it is impossible to be a second-year med student at 19. More on this:

Dzhokhar went on to attend UMass-Dartmouth, according to university officials. He lived on the third floor of the Pine Dale dormitory. Harry Danso, who lives on the same floor, told the AP he saw him in a dorm hallway this week.

"He was regular, he was calm," said Danso.

The school would not say what he was studying. The father of the suspects, Anzor Tsarnaev, told the AP his younger son was "a second-year medical student," though he graduated high school in 2011.

"My son is a true angel ...," he said by telephone from the Russian city of Makhachkala. "He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here."

Still, The New York Times reported that a college transcript revealed that he was failing many of his college classes. In two semesters in 2012 and 2013, he got seven failing grades, including F's in Principles of Modern Chemistry, Intro American Politics, and Chemistry and the Environment.


Yeah, lots of potential there.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby scarygirl » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:32 am

While I agree with 99 percent of what you said, can we not leave the THREE year old out of it? She isn't responsible for her parent's actions. She is going to be WRONGLY tarnished enough by this as it is.

Ehwmatt wrote:This whole thing disgusts me beyond belief. It was refreshing to hear their uncle call them out for the fucks that they are. Most families in this situation are, at best, silent, and at worst, defiant and in denial about the nature of their relatives' acts. But as for their disgusting parents and aunt, who showed the latter traits in particularly ugly form with their conspiracy theory ravings and veiled threats, they better not ever be allowed to even THINK of coming to this country for any purpose--not even to collect the tattered body of Tamerlan or whatever his shitty name is. Ship his decaying carcass over on a rat-infested ship for all I care.

And also, I would take a GOOD, HARD, LONG look at the sow who married this monster. What did she know? What did she endorse? What did she do when the videos and pictures came out? Did she call it in, or did she stay silent? Once American and Christian, but secretly converted to Islam? I'm not sure we need her OR her daughter growing up here, regardless of the shock and surprise her family seems to be manifesting right now. Get her outta here. Seriously.

The FBI/DHS/CIA etc. need to retool and start taking things more seriously. The fact that this guy was flagged 2 years ago by ANOTHER country, interviewed by ours, let go, and then proceeded to leave the country for 6 months before returning and leaving clear electronic warning signs on public sites is disturbing, to say the least. The answer isn't to make people go watch a marathon naked. The answer is to take this shit more seriously on the front end. I don't believe these two doofuses are the only Chechen Islamic extremists flying under the radar here because they aren't as brown as the average terrorist or aren't walking around decked out in full Islamic dress. In fact, I vaguely recall some training handbook or strategic plan being collected in either Eastern Europe or the Middle East after a raid on a terrorist hideout/camp 6 or 7 years back. One of the strategic planning points they found indicated a plan to recruit more Western-looking, lighter-skinned, Americanized people to come over here and do exactly what these idiots did.

My solution is simple: I don't trust ANY Muslims, period.
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Re: Boston Explosion

Postby JRNYMAN » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:19 am

Fact Finder wrote:Man, a guy just can't hide anywhere these days. Peek-a-boo.... :lol: :lol:

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