Helping one of the Forum Members...?

[artist4perry]

Thanks rick. Sushi i actually tried the millitary but i guess i'm too big for um. That
was a few years ago i was close to 400ish. Now i'm about 330ish. And the weird thing is
i haven't been trying to loose the weight just all the regular walking i do (lost the car a few years ago) is
slowly taking it off. Thanks for your advice though.

Get a job, get down to 230 and get your own place and I'll send $200. Document with pics.

Wow.... Mr Helpful have you seen the economy out there? My son took a year to get a job and all he could find is washing dishes part time...he is tickled pink to have it. He pounded the pavement every day. EVERY DAY. My brother in law lost his job and had to go out and start a business of his own after working as an accountant for years. Thanks to the present economy the factory he worked at had to lay him off even though they said he was one of the best people they had ever had. My son in law is only able to find work part time in construction and has to drive to another STATE to get work every other week. We need teachers but we are all stretched over classrooms that are busting at the seams because they cannot afford new ones.

That is three men right in my own family affected by the economy. Must be nice for you that you don't have to worry. I don't know what you were thinking with such a response. Maybe rethink it a bit. Maybe explain what you meant if that was not how you wanted it to come across. People are hurting all over the country.

[brywool]

Come on you guys, seriously?

Geez, EVERY TOPIC out there is not about left and right. That's the problem with our country right now- everything has become US and THEM. Either help the guy out or don't. But it's not cool to dog him when he's in this situation and I certainly didn't want things to go down this path. I'm just trying to help him. We're all fairly friendly here on these boards with each other (for the most part) and unfortunately, sh*t happens that's out of our control. If you don't feel like helping the guy because of your own philosophies, how about you just don't help and don't say anything about it?

One thing about the Internet, people say stuff online that they'd NEVER say in person. That is not always a good thing. Sure would be nice if Americans got back to having some civility.

Telling a person who needs immediate assistance "Come back and see me when you've lost 150 pounds" really doesn't do much to help the guy out at this particular moment. I'm sure it wasn't easy to ask me for help. And yes, I know that just handing him money doesn't SOLVE the issue. In fact, I said that very thing to Everett before I helped out... however, I STILL helped him out.

I should've known better than to ask forum members for help because it just turns into some negative discussion on political/economic philosophies...
Wow, disappointing for sure.

[Everett]

I hope Andrew bans you for this, but if he doesn't. GO FUCK YOURSELF! Right wing piece of shit.

I think you are reading him wrong, Rick. While we can help the guy in an emergency, that can only be a short term solution. When next month ends, then what?
From how I view it, FF is trying to give him a worthwhile goal that will also set him on the path of self reliance.

Bingo Don. And yes I would say something like that to my kids and I HAVE. It's called tough love. The only explanation needed here
Andrew is from Everett, not from me. Two years of living off of Moms unemployment is unacceptable to me when people are asking me for assistance. I'm pretty sure that over the last 2 years I've seen Eve post about some concerts he's attended and CD's he's bought. How the hell did he get money to go to shows and more importantly why did he go to them when he clearly couldn't afford it. That's irresponsible behavior IMHO. Giving money without a clear path for it's use will just lead to more irresponsible behavior I believe. I'm using the carrot and stick approach and my offer stands and is very real. Book it. And Rick, banning me for saying that is clearly what the hell is wrong with this Country and I say fuck you to that political correctness. Tebow gets castigated for wearing his religion on his sleeve (ie..told to stfu), while the likes of Jason Collins are allowed to flaunt their gayness right in our
face. Fuck that. Man up people and take some fucking responsibility for yourselves. Everett, you can do it if you put your mind to it. Just do it. Your path to a life of happiness lies within you and nobody else.

Fact finder i had no problems with your comments i actually gotta chuckle from them so thanks.
Anyway as far as your questions goes inbetween the last two years my mom and i have had various
temp agencie jobs but none of them have been long term. Yes we did use that for some leisure activities
but that was AFTER whatever bills/debts if any have been paid. I came to bry for help because the
unemployment was are only source of steady income. That ended last month so we have been stuck
since then. Believe me i DID NOT want to have to come to a guy i barely know and ask for help but i
really didn't have any other option. Our family is not really close so i had no option there as well. Anything
else you would like to know feel free to ask.

Everyone else thank you for your support. I'm not in as much dire strengths now as
i was before but any help you can give is greatly appreciated. Just have to figure out
this whole life thing again.

[Melissa]

I'm sure more people would help if they could. But I have to say I wasn't so sure about this after another member told me they too were homeless at one point and it turned out not to be true at all. And I was willing to scrape together whatever I could on my own to help that person. It was a slap in the face and very disheartening, so don't be so quick to assume why people may not be jumping on paypal or whatever else to help. If he truly is in this position, then yeah I guess it takes guts to say so here, and hopefully things will get better soon.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Get a job, get down to 230 and get your own place and I'll send $200. Document with pics.

I hope Andrew bans you for this, but if he doesn't. GO FUCK YOURSELF! Right wing piece of shit.

I think you are reading him wrong, Rick. While we can help the guy in an emergency, that can only be a short term solution. When next month ends, then what?
From how I view it, FF is trying to give him a worthwhile goal that will also set him on the path of self reliance.

Obviously to most people constructive criticism is a thing of the past like a lot of things are becoming. Your exactly right Don, about the short term/long term solutions point.

Lastly I will say again to the one down on his luck right now, good luck and I really hope things work out for you, I've been close to homelessness myself and so I know exactly what it's like. My way out of that mess was to join the mil but that is not the only option. You just have to find the one that works for you.

[scarab]

Have you considered relocating? North Dakota is begging for workers.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Have you considered relocating? North Dakota is begging for workers.

What type of work is now booming in North Dakota?

Relocating at a time when one has no money to a place they don't already have a job lined up and place to stay is just asking for failure.

[scarygirl]

I understand the advice to just move and in some ways I am with you, but unless one has a highly sought out skill set they may well be better off staying put. In my own job search I have found the best found skill is to have a company connection. Without a company connection there is almost zero chance of making it through the resume sift through.

Have you considered relocating? North Dakota is begging for workers.

[artist4perry]

Some of you folks should be damn glad you didn't grow up with my Father and Grandfather, scratch that, some of you folks should have grown up with my Father and Grandfather. Who the hell pussified this whole damn Country?

Ginger, I am self employed and believe me, I worry every day. I see the economy like everybody else does and I know it sucks. I did my best to steer people away from Obama/Pelosi and the liberal policies that have gotten us here, but it is what it is. Reap what you sow people. I'm taking care of #1.

Peace out.

Something you might not know is Everett did not come to us hat in hand. He confided in Brywool that he was going through tough times. Brywool being a nice person brought this to us to see if we wanted to help. Everett was not begging. Everett was not looking for sympathy and as a matter of fact he came on here when he did not have to and let us know it was him that Brywool was speaking of. I have Everett on Facebook and he has never approached me for one thin dime. He confided in a friend. Have we not all done that?

I would never ask any of you for any money no matter how dire things get. First of off my southern upbringing forbids it...Southern Bell 101, Second off I have always taken care of myself. I don't like people who go out there and beg for money. But this is not the case.
I cannot help Everett right now because of my own tight budget. Some may not be able to and that is fine. You might not want to because of your convictions and that is fine. But he did not come on here to beg. I think you need to think about that as well. Brywool did nothing wrong...he is kind hearted and meant well. If some want to help Everett that is their prerogative and I commend their kindness. There is no shame in not giving if you don't want to. But I don't see Everett as a lazy guy with his palm out stretched to use us. That is not his style either.
Maybe you wanted to jolt him with tough love, but he was not coming here playing little orphan Everett. A friend did this for him in the spirit of friendship and you would have not known who it was if he had not been open. And I do remember Everett saying the problem was solved as far as where to live by an Aunt. He went to his own resources for help. I just think you were a little quick to smack his hand...like most fathers do. Mothers on the other hand, take more time to assess the situation. Trust me if I thought he was a layabout beggar I would not defend him one bit.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I understand the advice to just move and in some ways I am with you, but unless one has a highly sought out skill set they may well be better off staying put. In my own job search I have found the best found skill is to have a company connection. Without a company connection there is almost zero chance of making it through the resume sift through.

Have you considered relocating? North Dakota is begging for workers.

Exactly. Don't move unless you have a job lined up, place to stay, a surplus of money to fall back on if things don't work out or are slow to start up. Trust me, I have had a few relatives try do relocate with nothing but a few possessions and they ended up coming back in a few months worse off then before they left.

[artist4perry]

I understand the advice to just move and in some ways I am with you, but unless one has a highly sought out skill set they may well be better off staying put. In my own job search I have found the best found skill is to have a company connection. Without a company connection there is almost zero chance of making it through the resume sift through.

Have you considered relocating? North Dakota is begging for workers.

Exactly. Don't move unless you have a job lined up, place to stay, a surplus of money to fall back on if things don't work out or are slow to start up. Trust me, I have had a few relatives try do relocate with nothing but a few possessions and they ended up coming back in a few months worse off then before they left.

Moving costs a lot and I have learned from much experience even though job pay sounds great in a big city, it does not mean it is enough to live there. Usually pay is equivalent to cost of living. Don't give up pounding the pavement, and don't become so proud you won't do two or three low paying part time jobs to make ends meet. You do what you have to, and diligence pays off. You have to keep plugging for jobs. Good luck!

[The Sushi Hunter]

Doesn't sound like he's got a job lined up anywhere yet so moving now would only be asking for trouble. Where he is now he's got some type of roots in place with his mother too. The relatives of mine who moved, didn't have all that much to move so the cost to relocate wasn't an issue at all. It's when they got to where they were going, they got a serious wake-up call that there was nothing for them when they got there. Sort of like picking a city/state on a map and driving there with only enough money to get there but not back. What do you do when you get there? Bad situation, don't get yourself in that spot.

[scarygirl]

I don't know what type of jobs skills Everett has, but it may help him to volunteer for a non-profit organization? That is a great way to build a resume and extra skills in between jobs, or at the very least to avoid job gaps between employers.

[scarygirl]

I know one thing, the job market is much tougher now than it has ever been. The skills test alone will kill you even if you get and ace the interview. I had two interviews last week, one with a background check company and the other as a waitress at On the Border. Both interviews I completely aced... The skills tests, meh.

The background check company had me take two skills test.

Skills test I was a three minute typing test. I type approximately 27 wpm, not great, not horrible either. About midway through the test, I notice my words aren't wrapping to the next line. Turns out they had it set like an old fashioned typewriter. Not ever using a type writer, I didn't realize that I should hit the space bar to get the word to the next line. Actually I hit enter and got the word to the next line, but the words were still showing FALSE errors. By the time I figured out how to correct this time was up.

Skills test 2 was to answer 8 questions in 45 seconds~! Go!! I get to the third question, boom it is over. The purpose on the test was to see how fast and accurate you are. I am a fairly accurate person. I used to proofread ads for a living, but I still need about 2O seconds to absorb and answer a solitary question.

THe waitress skills test consisted of a personality style test and math questions. The math questions asked were in no way related to math skills you would actually use on the job. They were to see if you could see patterns, shape patterns, what comes after this series of pictures, and number patterns, 2, 5, 7 X? Granted that is the simple version, the questions were actually much harder than that. I am not a stupid person, not by a long shot.. I can do basic math, add, subtract, multiply, divide, reduce fractions, make change, calculate percentages, good ole everyday business math. Only none of that was on the test, and so though I had tried to prep myself the best way I could, I had no real way of anticipating what would be on the test. The test consisted of those type of questions only. I had not done math like that in almost 30 years. Again, I don't think I am stupid, I just think it is amazing that vying for a WAITRESS job has become a quasi SAT and told him so nicely after being given notice that I failed the company test and wasn't eligible to be hired.

This was for a waitress job, something college kids do. I have waited on tables, not saying it isn't hard work, but the only skills I see a waitress needing is basic math , not dropping too many plates and people and multi tasking skills. That's it! This is not rocket science, but that is what the job market is being turned into today, needing some advanced degree for non skilled labor. Is it any wonder people without college degrees have such a rough time in the job market? I have had many great interviews only to be turned down after a skills test or not getting an interview because of the skills test, and these are for jobs I have years of experience in.

I have been taking stock of my weak points and trying to shore up so the same failures don't happen again, but it seems with every new test there is a new GOT YA! Most employers design the test in such a way that only a person who has worked there would pass the test. Instead of the test being broad it is very specific. There is no learning curve or training period anymore.

With that said, I am very persistent! I had an interview today that went very well, no test. Granted it was for a temp job. I hope to someday get another crack at the city job that I beat 200 other applicants for only to choke on the test ....

[Don]

The BBC just talked about this last week. Fracking has made the Dakotas and other mountain states the new frontier. Companies even have dorms there for the unskilled workers they are bringing in. Hard work but they'll take anyone with a clean record. The pay is decent and if you are skilled, it's great.

[Rick]

I hope Andrew bans you for this, but if he doesn't. GO FUCK YOURSELF! Right wing piece of shit.

I think you are reading him wrong, Rick. While we can help the guy in an emergency, that can only be a short term solution. When next month ends, then what?
From how I view it, FF is trying to give him a worthwhile goal that will also set him on the path of self reliance.

Bingo Don. And yes I would say something like that to my kids and I HAVE. It's called tough love. The only explanation needed here Andrew is from Everett, not from me. Two years of living off of Moms unemployment is unacceptable to me when people are asking me for assistance. I'm pretty sure that over the last 2 years I've seen Eve post about some concerts he's attended and CD's he's bought. How the hell did he get money to go to shows and more importantly why did he go to them when he clearly couldn't afford it. That's irresponsible behavior IMHO. Giving money without a clear path for it's use will just lead to more irresponsible behavior I believe. I'm using the carrot and stick approach and my offer stands and is very real. Book it. And Rick, banning me for saying that is clearly what the hell is wrong with this Country and I say fuck you to that political correctness. Tebow gets castigated for wearing his religion on his sleeve (ie..told to stfu), while the likes of Jason Collins are allowed to flaunt their gayness right in our face. Fuck that. Man up people and take some fucking responsibility for yourselves. Everett, you can do it if you put your mind to it. Just do it. Your path to a life of happiness lies within you and nobody else.

I understand where you're coming from, FF, I do. My dad is just like you. He's all about taking responsibility for one's self and so on, and that's definitely the way to be. He was a military man. Captain in the Army. I was brought up in a very strict environment. WAY strict.

At first read, your post seemed very cold, offending and mean. But as others have said and explained, it was most probably meant to be helpful. So, good on you for that. And I'm sick of political correctness too, so fuck me on that is right. I could care less about Tebow and the gay guy. I'm neither religious nor gay, so it's nothing of interest to me.

[yulog]

I have a family member who lost his job around 2009ish he collected unemployment for 2+ years and it was enough to get him by for that period of time . During that time the state removed 20 of his 28 teeth(he was hoping they would remove all of them) and made him dentures for free. he was also given the ability to be retrained for free. I had encouraged him to take that, there were many choices but he lives in florida so I told him to take the Ac technician course that they offered. He could stay in the south or come out to Arizona. There is always tons of work including overtime in that field in the hotter states. Well, he just sat around and talked about it but never did anything and then all of a sudden he was cut off and looking for help..........when he had free training staring him in the face . I think what happens is you get complacent and lose motivation and create your own demise so to speak. Every state has this type of program for free and there are tons of government programs that support low or no income families, and you can get the money even if your white.

[Rick]

Rick, what this world needs is some cold hard truths.

It does, true. And, evidently, Everett didn't take it in a bad way, so no harm no foul.

But that would that me days!

Whatever happened, this sentence didn't come out right and I want to know what you meant to say.

[Marabelle]

I haven't said a word because I"m not sure what I'm going to do. I think everyone is able to make their own decisions. Personally I think the entire conversation has turned into something other than a man's simple request to help another man out who is in dire financial difficulties. To me it's like walking by a homeless man in the street; either you help him or her or you don't. It's your prerogative.I might not like the idea that the adult man is still living with his mother in a hotel room because who knows his circumstances or how that happened. I might not like the idea that he weighs over 200 lbs or that he's able to come on line instead of spending time looking for work or his eyes are brown and his hair is long; or why isn't he exercising and why didn't he learn the same lessons about life that I did or someone else because then maybe he wouldn't be in this position. I think you give what you give because that is what you want to do. You give what you can afford without having to get answers to all your questions. We really can't change the man's life; we can only send him on his way with some hope and a prayer. You hope that he can find a job and improve his circumstance and you pray that you're not the next forum member having to ask for a handout from the other members on this site. Not only do I find the thread awfully humbling it's also incredibly embarrassing to allow others to pass judgments on your personal life situation because you are having a rough time in your life.

[Memorex]

I haven't said a word because I"m not sure what I'm going to do. I think everyone is able to make their own decisions. Personally I think the entire conversation has turned into something other than a man's simple request to help another man out who is in dire financial difficulties. To me it's like walking by a homeless man in the street; either you help him or her or you don't. It's your prerogative.I might not like the idea that the adult man is still living with his mother in a hotel room because who knows his circumstances or how that happened. I might not like the idea that he weighs over 200 lbs or that he's able to come on line instead of spending time looking for work or his eyes are brown and his hair is long; or why isn't he exercising and why didn't he learn the same lessons about life that I did or someone else because then maybe he wouldn't be in this position. I think you give what you give because that is what you want to do. You give what you can afford without having to get answers to all your questions. We really can't change the man's life; we can only send him on his way with some hope and a prayer. You hope that he can find a job and improve his circumstance and you pray that you're not the next forum member having to ask for a handout from the other members on this site. Not only do I find the thread awfully humbling it's also incredibly embarrassing to allow others to pass judgments on your personal life situation because you are having a rough time in your life.

Great post.

I gave cause what the hell. I mean, I'm struggling right now myself but I think the amount I could give is more important in this case than something else I may spend it on. Someone is hurting and we won't fix that but maybe it inspires just a little. And I can sleep better.

I sent some folks PM's privately to help someone else here in need a while back and got zip for a response. I thought that was particularly shitty.

This is a community, for what it's worth to each person. I spend more time reading everyone's stupid comments than I do on most other extra curricular activities. Every now and then we gotta put a little in the till to lift one of us up. I don't mind the people offering all the advice though. People need that as much as money sometimes.

[JRNYMAN]

Rick, what this world needs is some cold hard truths.

It does, true. And, evidently, Everett didn't take it in a bad way, so no harm no foul.

But that would that me days!

Whatever happened, this sentence didn't come out right and I want to know what you meant to say.

Rick, translated, that sentence means "This is how you keep a politically correct asshole in suspense!" Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

[Everett]

I haven't said a word because I"m not sure what I'm going to do. I think everyone is able to make their own decisions. Personally I think the entire conversation has turned into something other than a man's simple request to help another man out who is in dire financial difficulties. To me it's like walking by a homeless man in the street; either you help him or her or you don't. It's your prerogative.I might not like the idea that the adult man is still living with his mother in a hotel room because who knows his circumstances or how that happened. I might not like the idea that he weighs over 200 lbs or that he's able to come on line instead of spending time looking for work or his eyes are brown and his hair is long; or why isn't he exercising and why didn't he learn the same lessons about life that I did or someone else because then maybe he wouldn't be in this position. I think you give what you give because that is what you want to do. You give what you can afford without having to get answers to all your questions. We really can't change the man's life; we can only send him on his way with some hope and a prayer. You hope that he can find a job and improve his circumstance and you pray that you're not the next forum member having to ask for a handout from the other members on this site. Not only do I find the thread awfully humbling it's also incredibly embarrassing to allow others to pass judgments on your personal life situation because you are having a rough time in your life.

Great post.

I gave cause what the hell. I mean, I'm struggling right now myself but I think the amount I could give is more important in this case than something else I may spend it on. Someone is hurting and we won't fix that but maybe it inspires just a little. And I can sleep better

I sent some folks PM's privately to help someone else here in need a while back and got zip for a response. I thought that was particularly shitty.

This is a community, for what it's worth to each person. I spend more time reading everyone's stupid comments than I do on most other extra curricular activities. Every now and then we gotta put a little in the till to lift one of us up. I don't mind the people offering all the advice though. People need that as much as money sometimes.

And i really appreciate the help memorex. I can't thank you guys enough for your generosity it has been really
helpful. Things are getting better i scored a job interview on friday. Part time two days a week but hey it's something.

[steveo777]

I love all of you.....conditionally. Straighten the fuck up and fly right! Usually the number one destructor in your life is the one you see in the mirror every day. The song that plays in your head is either the most destructive or the most productive one. Change the station!!! If you believe you are a failure, you are. If you believe you are successful, you are.

So, I post this yet again. When I really came to understand this it changed my life.

“If you think you are beaten, you are;
If you think you dare not, you don't.
If you'd like to win, but think you can't
It's almost a cinch you won't.
If you think you'll lose, you've lost,
For out in the world we find
Success being with a fellow's will;
It's all in the state of mind.

If you think you're outclassed, you are:
You've got to think high to rise.
You've got to be sure of yourself before
You can ever win a prize.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man,
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.”

― Walter D. Wintle

Everett, you know what to do. God Blesss you. I know you will find it in you to pull through!

[The Sushi Hunter]

Check out this very interesting story.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/28/pf/nort ... /index.htm

Since we are "hearing" about this now and by the media, I would imagine word's gotten out already and there is boat loads of people pouring into that state already. One thing to also consider is who the jobs are meant for over there. Example: a number of years ago I was interested in getting a job on base in Japan as a civilian and even traveled there to do a few interviews only to discover that the vast majority of positions that are available across the board are reserved for dependents of active service members who are stationed at the base. These jobs I was applying for in Japan were used as a way to entice active service members to take orders in a place they really rather not go to for a few years tour, by promising that their dependents will get first crack at any and all jobs available. That's a hell of a leverage tool because I personally knew guys who were calculating how much their spouse could make working and saving that money for two years, they would be ending that two to three year tour with lots of savings. A few years later, a very good friend of mine who just retired from active duty in Japan was hired on base there and he informed me of this issue with the jobs being used as enticement.

So you got to also consider who these jobs in North Dakota are meant for and who will be hired for them before anybody else (outsider). It is quite possible that these jobs are being used the same way the jobs on base in Japan are used for, to entice oil workers to take up the job in North Dakota by promising that their dependents will get first crack at any and all jobs available. Something to consider before packing up and heading to North Dakota looking for one of those jobs to fill. Best thing to do would be applying for these jobs without going there first. This way if it doesn't pan out, you've not relocated and then are stuck with no food, money, or job in North Dakota.

[Moon Beam]

I'm taking care of #1.

This is the only post from you that I've read in this thread and that's all I need to see.
That attitude is what's wrong with the greedy dog eat dog world we live in.
Sorry, Sir, I can't stand that expression you used and just couldn't stay silent.
I'm sure you've good reason to wield those words but I won't wrap my heart around em.

[Don]

Check out this very interesting story.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/28/pf/nort ... /index.htm

Since we are "hearing" about this now and by the media, I would imagine word's gotten out already and there is boat loads of people pouring into that state already. One thing to also consider is who the jobs are meant for over there. Example: a number of years ago I was interested in getting a job on base in Japan as a civilian and even traveled there to do a few interviews only to discover that the vast majority of positions that are available across the board are reserved for dependents of active service members who are stationed at the base. These jobs I was applying for in Japan were used as a way to entice active service members to take orders in a place they really rather not go to for a few years tour, by promising that their dependents will get first crack at any and all jobs available. That's a hell of a leverage tool because I personally knew guys who were calculating how much their spouse could make working and saving that money for two years, they would be ending that two to three year tour with lots of savings. A few years later, a very good friend of mine who just retired from active duty in Japan was hired on base there and he informed me of this issue with the jobs being used as enticement.

So you got to also consider who these jobs in North Dakota are meant for and who will be hired for them before anybody else (outsider). It is quite possible that these jobs are being used the same way the jobs on base in Japan are used for, to entice oil workers to take up the job in North Dakota by promising that their dependents will get first crack at any and all jobs available. Something to consider before packing up and heading to North Dakota looking for one of those jobs to fill. Best thing to do would be applying for these jobs without going there first. This way if it doesn't pan out, you've not relocated and then are stuck with no food, money, or job in North Dakota.

This is actually one of those cases of "if you snooze, you lose." As you can see from the article, local businesses are hiring like crazy, there is no nepotism going on, it's whoever shows up first will get the job. You don't send a resume to work at a taco joint. You walk in, fill out the paper work and start earning your 15 bucks an hour.

The reason the media is talking about it now is because it's going to expand to other states like Wyoming and Montana. States with extremely small populations (568,000 for the former and one million people for the latter).
Fracking will be the new gold rush for the next 30 years. For people who are down on their luck, it's a great opportunity to start anew.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Check out this very interesting story.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/28/pf/nort ... /index.htm

Since we are "hearing" about this now and by the media, I would imagine word's gotten out already and there is boat loads of people pouring into that state already. One thing to also consider is who the jobs are meant for over there. Example: a number of years ago I was interested in getting a job on base in Japan as a civilian and even traveled there to do a few interviews only to discover that the vast majority of positions that are available across the board are reserved for dependents of active service members who are stationed at the base. These jobs I was applying for in Japan were used as a way to entice active service members to take orders in a place they really rather not go to for a few years tour, by promising that their dependents will get first crack at any and all jobs available. That's a hell of a leverage tool because I personally knew guys who were calculating how much their spouse could make working and saving that money for two years, they would be ending that two to three year tour with lots of savings. A few years later, a very good friend of mine who just retired from active duty in Japan was hired on base there and he informed me of this issue with the jobs being used as enticement.

So you got to also consider who these jobs in North Dakota are meant for and who will be hired for them before anybody else (outsider). It is quite possible that these jobs are being used the same way the jobs on base in Japan are used for, to entice oil workers to take up the job in North Dakota by promising that their dependents will get first crack at any and all jobs available. Something to consider before packing up and heading to North Dakota looking for one of those jobs to fill. Best thing to do would be applying for these jobs without going there first. This way if it doesn't pan out, you've not relocated and then are stuck with no food, money, or job in North Dakota.

This actually one of those cases of "if you snooze, you lose." As you can see from the article, local businesses are hiring like crazy, there is no nepotism going on, it's whoever shows up first will get the job. You don't send a resume to work at a taco joint. You walk in, fill out the paper work and start earning your 15 bucks an hour.

The reason the media is talking about it now is because it's going to expand to other states like Wyoming and Montana. States with extremely small populations (568,000 for the former and one million people for the latter).
Fracking will be the new gold rush for the next 30 years. For people who are down on their luck, it's a great opportunity to start anew.

Yeah your most likely right, but I was just throwing out the suggestion to really take a close look at it in all angles to make sure there are no big game changing surprises down the line.

[G.I.Jim]

Well, I've stayed out of this thread after my initial pledge to send some money as I watched this all unfold. I just read something on Facebook that I think is wrong, and can't keep this to myself (sorry Everett). I know that he's going through tough times right now, but even now as people have sent him money from here, he states on FB that he's going to a music festival. WTF??? You're begging people for money, then brag about going to a festival today? That's pretty damn despicable Everett, and I'm highly disappointed in you.

If there's more to this than I know, I apologize for jumping the gun. You did say you don't have to pay for the seats, but you did say you had to pay to get into the festival. There are a lot of great people here on MR with big hearts, and I don't want to see them get taken advantage of.

Even if you have someone else buying your ticket to get in there, it's in pretty poor taste to beg for money (which is what you did on FB), then post about going to a festival. Not cool my friend...

[Don]

Well, I've stayed out of this thread after my initial pledge to send some money as I watched this all unfold. I just read something on Facebook that I think is wrong, and can't keep this to myself (sorry Everett). I know that he's going through tough times right now, but even now as people have sent him money from here, he states on FB that he's going to a music festival. WTF??? You're begging people for money, then brag about going to a festival today? That's pretty damn despicable Everett, and I'm highly disappointed in you.

If there's more to this than I know, I apologize for jumping the gun. You did say you don't have to pay for the seats, but you did say you had to pay to get into the festival. There are a lot of great people here on MR with big hearts, and I don't want to see them get taken advantage of.

Even if you have someone else buying your ticket to get in there, it's in pretty poor taste to beg for money (which is what you did on FB), then post about going to a festival. Not cool my friend...

When Brywool first posted, I started the countdown.

And boom goes the dynamite.

[Rick]

Well, I've stayed out of this thread after my initial pledge to send some money as I watched this all unfold. I just read something on Facebook that I think is wrong, and can't keep this to myself (sorry Everett). I know that he's going through tough times right now, but even now as people have sent him money from here, he states on FB that he's going to a music festival. WTF??? You're begging people for money, then brag about going to a festival today? That's pretty damn despicable Everett, and I'm highly disappointed in you.

If there's more to this than I know, I apologize for jumping the gun. You did say you don't have to pay for the seats, but you did say you had to pay to get into the festival. There are a lot of great people here on MR with big hearts, and I don't want to see them get taken advantage of.

Even if you have someone else buying your ticket to get in there, it's in pretty poor taste to beg for money (which is what you did on FB), then post about going to a festival. Not cool my friend...

To be fair to Everett, he didn't ask for anything. Bryan asked for it, to help him out.