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Postby verslibre » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:46 am

Sure seems that way.
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Re: MAN OF STEEL....OK, I'm excited now! :)

Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:42 pm

Just what we expected on the forums: critics not giving Man of Steel the glowing reviews the general audience has thus far. Get this, labeling it: "Too much action. Too serious for Superman. Too loud & not enough romantic comedy.."

Lmao, these are the SAME critics that gave Superman Returns (dull, boring, chick-flick, outdated, no-action, BORING...BORING) a high review rating that generally bombed at the box office.

The fans who saw it are claiming it to be chillingly great and amazing as the critics are dogging it because Superman isn't saving kittens from trees. They prefer Superman Returns because it exists within the narrative of the Donner-verse (and these critics get paid to do this job, huh?)

So, in a nutshell, this is the Superman movie that we've all been busting to see for a long, long time :lol: All the negatives to the critics are high positives to the fans who screamed for a reboot in the first place.

As v said, sequel already a go. This is going to bring in HUGE bucks. Defiantly going to set a record for June block-buster. A couple more nights to wait! I'm jazzed up babi! :mrgreen:
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Postby No Surprize » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:25 pm

I for one, never go by what a critic says. In fact, if they shun it, 90% of the time it's a great movie. From the previews this "S" looks like it kick's ass and takes names!
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Re: MAN OF STEEL....OK, I'm excited now! :)

Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:22 am

Social media and fans reactions across the web are gleeing in their reviews, so within the general audiences reactions, we were expecting the average rating on Rotten Tomatoes to be around 90%. Now that the critics have spoken, though most of the reviews aren't all BAD (a few reviewers give it a 3/5 with a fresh rating and some 3/5's have it a rotten rating, doesn't make sense) it's sitting right now at 67% RT rating (33 positive; 16 negative) a whole 9% points down from Superman Returns's RT score (76%.)

The difference is the audience's "WANT TO" meter. Returns was around 57% I believe and MOS is a 97% WANT TO rating.

Most reviews after the movie will surely bump it up and may settle in the low 70% but it's strangely funny how critics see this and how the general audience who decide box office momentum sees it.

All the neg reviews are laughable and most of the people that say the stuff they say CLEARLY didn't get the reference of the reboot and that was surprising. Some older critics are just stuck with the Donner-verse and want to laugh at a Superman film. That's why critics critique I suppose. All the neg reviews I've read is the exact opposite in what I see a positive (Action, serious, etc)
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Postby Memorex » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:49 am

I'm not a comics book guy or even much of a super-hero movie guy. I don't have the time, though I suspect deep down inside I would have the requisite geek-ness.

I enjoyed the original Superman movies (most of them) and the TV show. I have been a fan of the Iron Man franchise simply because it was very nice to see RDJ go from passing out in a strangers house to becoming one of the biggest stars on the planet. And I have enjoyed many of the Batman movies. Otherwise I'd rather see a good comedy or drama than a supper-hero flick.

But down to the core of my balls, I am so f'ing excited to see this Man of Steel movie. Not sure why and I don't care why. I just know that at midnight tomorrow I will be there with with a room full of annoying popcorn chompers watching this thing.

I even hate watching commercials anymore (thank you DVR) but I watch many of them now since Superman seems to be in most of them. I just hope I am not over-hyping it in my own head. And I hope I can stay awake long enough. :)

And as for the aforementioned annoying popcorn chompers - seriously, why do I want to sit in public and listen to you eat? Get some manners for god's sake.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:21 am

Well??? Where's your review??? I'm sure you've probably seen it 3 times by now, so get your ass in here and start gushing about it! :lol:
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Postby Memorex » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:56 am

I didn't go last night because they pushed the opening till 12 and I was too tired to think I could fully enjoy it. I will try and make a late afternoon showing. I am going to do the imax 3D.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:28 am

I am working on a review as we speak, as well as already looking to go for a third viewing! It was NOT the movie I would of felt to expect and that is a VERY, VERY good thing. The first viewing soaks in all kinds of thoughts like a curious sponge, but the second viewing blows the roof entirely out of your mind

For now before I gather myself and lend a review:

Just got home from my SECOND viewing of Man Of Steel in one night and whoever has already seen it once, I urge you to go see it for a second time to soak in the imaginative and creative genius of this re-imagining of the Superman-mythos. The new wrinkles work and you simply can NOT appreciate the deepness of this movie unless you see it more than once. I have already seen it TWICE and plan on going a few more times. It's that good. Henry Cavill not only embodies the comic-book essence of Superman, but he BECOMES the man behind the "S". One helluva performance by our lead man. Amazing. 9/10 (room for a sequel.) Don't get me started on the action or CGI aspects. Words don't do it justice. Go see Man Of Steel and "Join him in the sun."
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Re: MAN OF STEEL....OK, I'm excited now! :)

Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:34 am

Memorex wrote:I didn't go last night because they pushed the opening till 12 and I was too tired to think I could fully enjoy it. I will try and make a late afternoon showing. I am going to do the imax 3D.


I suggest you see this in 2D! Trust me, the camera work is manually shaky for an alien effect and the amount of CGI involved in the action sequences is a whirlwind. It's a graphical prize fright for the ages and 3D would ruin your experience to catch the the right balance your eyes are tying to focus on. Lots of zoom ins and outs and out of focus/in-focus shots.
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Postby verslibre » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:39 am

I canNOT believe I'm seeing complaints of "too much action" for this film.

So now they want Bryan Singer's Superfairy back? :roll:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:58 am

verslibre wrote:I canNOT believe I'm seeing complaints of "too much action" for this film.

So now they want Bryan Singer's Superfairy back? :roll:


Don't worry about it, dude. Though THAT much action wouldn't work in any other superhero flick, it works with Superman givin' the context of what is at stake and it's a hellva ride. The combat involved shows off high levels of destruction. Most of the people claiming it too much action are swinging on the Donner-verse coattails with nothing more to latch onto any longer and are shooting in the dark. Forget everything Superman ever was in the Donnerverse and realize this new Superman lives in a more edgier society.

Henry Cavill--- JESUS CHRIST is this dude amazing. He caught the very essence of Superman from the modern pages and his delivery is pitch-perfect. A lot of small stuff made the movie for me on Cavill's performance. His body language, word delivery and stature is everything Superman is depicted from modern comics. He simply nailed it with flying colors. I can't praise him enough.
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Postby verslibre » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:03 am

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verslibre wrote:I canNOT believe I'm seeing complaints of "too much action" for this film.

So now they want Bryan Singer's Superfairy back? :roll:


Don't worry about it, dude. Though THAT much action wouldn't work in any other superhero flick, it works with Superman givin' the context of what is at stake and it's a hellva ride. The combat involved shows off high levels of destruction. Most of the people claiming it too much action are swinging on the Donner-verse coattails with nothing more to latch onto any longer and are shooting in the dark. Forget everything Superman ever was in the Donnerverse and realize this new Superman lives in a more edgier society.


That's exactly the point. This is supposed to be a new thing. If all we were to get is a Donner redux (we saw that already), it would be dead on arrival. Some people are impossible to please.

I've also seen at least one complaint of a too-short origin. Holy shit, that is a GOOD thing in my book. We don't need another 80-minute origin to get to the fuckin' story. :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:09 am

Everything in this movie simply worked for me. I highly, highly disagree with the "lack of origin" comment. I don't think it's short at all. Without saying too much, there' a certain type of sequence they tend to lean on and I saw right through it and accepted their direction in how they told Clark's story. As far as origin, the first 30-40 minutes is absolutley amazing. Krypton is fleshed out in an grandiose way and though it's a HEAVY plot (very imaginative to me, a lot to take in but very different in what I was expecting. Creative on its own right) the pace may suffer in most scenes but by no means does the origin skimp.

It's a 2 and a half hour movie and it feels like half of that. Very fast paced and hidden, subtle emotion. It's a nice vibe and absolutley felt NOTHING like the Nolanverse Bat-series (which shocked me.) Not even close to being as grim or dark. Clark just has a heavy alien background that rips him apart from society but the script calls for a collision of Earth and Krypton.

Shit, talking about it I want to see it again. A+ acting all throughout.
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Postby Memorex » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:16 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Memorex wrote:I didn't go last night because they pushed the opening till 12 and I was too tired to think I could fully enjoy it. I will try and make a late afternoon showing. I am going to do the imax 3D.


I suggest you see this in 2D! Trust me, the camera work is manually shaky for an alien effect and the amount of CGI involved in the action sequences is a whirlwind. It's a graphical prize fright for the ages and 3D would ruin your experience to catch the the right balance your eyes are tying to focus on. Lots of zoom ins and outs and out of focus/in-focus shots.


I'll take your advice and see 2D. But it would be nice if there was a 2D imax. It showed on 8 screens here at midnight last night. I didn't think we had that many people around here.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:57 am

Well, I just got home from seeing it... WOW!!! What an incredible movie!!!!!! To me, this is the best Superman film I've seen. The original was great back in the day, but does not stand up to the test of time. I will say... after watching it in RPX 3-D, I would definitely recommend seeing this in 2-D. The action will make you dizzy as hell and it's distracting. They could not have found anyone better to play this role, and I'm a believer. He IS Superman! Lol!!

This has now taken the title as MY favorite superhero movie. I will definitely be going back and seeing it again with the MRS. :D
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Postby brywool » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:25 am

verslibre wrote:

The movie was entertaining (yet predictable) up till the moment Cumberbatch (whose Sherlock series is brilliant, btw) spat out "My...name...is...KHAN!!!" (They should have had a brass cue for that one...it needed to be punctuated with a trumpety flatulence.) After that, it was a matter of everyone (and two ships) chasing each other. Biggest fucking cop-out ever as far as a script goes. If Harrison had been anyone else, it wouldn't have been so bad (at least till the lame Spock-Khan chase and showdown, which sucked). What makes Khan interesting is his personal beef with Kirk, and there was none of that in this movie. Khan's beef was with Admiral Robocop.

But when Kirk died, there was no emotion there. The scene didn't compare at all to Spock's sacrifice. And nuSpock screaming "KHAAAAAN!!!" was the biggest piece of monkey doo that got flung at us. It was shameless, gratuitous, condescending and just fucking stupid.

And then when you realize the guys who wrote this movie wrote the Transformers flicks, it all makes sense.

I'll say this..the FX in Star Trick You Into Buying A Ticket ARE badass.


Yer right on the money with all this. Decent movie until he said who he was and it just tanked from there. Serious copout of a movie. Psyched for MOS.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:29 am

G.I. glad you liked it, buddy! I hyped it for a reason all these years. These stupid ass critics who were expecting The Notebook can fuck off! Man Of Steel is truly a modern day Superman comic book coming to life in our world and Snyder PULLED IT OFF. He fucking pulled it of. :mrgreen:
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Postby verslibre » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:30 am

YoungJRNY wrote:These stupid ass critics who were expecting The Notebook can fuck off!


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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:19 am

Aint that the truth! v, when you seeing it?
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Postby verslibre » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:24 am

Not sure if I'll go tonight. Tomorrow fer sure, at the latest!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:07 am

EDIT: F*ck the critics! Bahahaha. :D
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Postby Don » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:08 pm

Does the El family do all of their clothes shopping at Wayne Enterprises?
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Postby Memorex » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:49 am

Ok. Saw it. Loved it! Very powerful imagery. Loved the visual nods to the old movie/stories. Excellent action sequences.

I would have loved a little more of the middle stuff, to be honest. But what there was of it was very good. Everyone was great in their part.

I'll see it again at some point.

And yes - there was the most annoying popcorn eater behind us for the first half of the movie. Guy must have thought he was alone in his living room. Very distracting.

Anyway, the good news is that no one aspect of the film is overdone. I could have easily sat through another hour and enjoyed it.
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Postby Everett » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:26 am

Do we have to call in a welfare check for trav? :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:57 pm

Everett wrote:Do we have to call in a welfare check for trav? :lol:


It's GREAT to be a nerd. I scored bigtime tonight. I saw it twice before today, so I went for a 3rd matinee' and I started talking about comics and the actual movie to the dude working the ticket booth. It got around to how he is an extra helper at my local comic book shop and unloads and files the comics. I haven't missed a comic in 5 years and I never saw 'em. He ended up passing me through no fee so I saw it free tonight haha. 8)

My last showing is tomorrow afternoon, fathers day with my bro.
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Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:09 pm

"We could have built a new Krypton on this squalor...but you chose humans over us."

Awesome fucking line.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:00 am

verslibre wrote:"We could have built a new Krypton on this squalor...but you chose humans over us."

Awesome fucking line.


Overall consensus?
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Postby verslibre » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:43 am

It was awesome,dude. Cavill was born for the part. Like the Nolan films, it boasts a great cast (Crowe and Costner stole every scene they were in). Origin exposition was handled perfectly. Amazing FX. Beautifully shot. It does look like a Nolan film here and there.

I'll be back later to write more. :)
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:35 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:Just what we expected on the forums: critics not giving Man of Steel the glowing reviews the general audience has thus far. Get this, labeling it: "Too much action. Too serious for Superman. Too loud & not enough romantic comedy.."

Lmao, these are the SAME critics that gave Superman Returns (dull, boring, chick-flick, outdated, no-action, BORING...BORING) a high review rating that generally bombed at the box office.

The fans who saw it are claiming it to be chillingly great and amazing as the critics are dogging it because Superman isn't saving kittens from trees. They prefer Superman Returns because it exists within the narrative of the Donner-verse (and these critics get paid to do this job, huh?)

So, in a nutshell, this is the Superman movie that we've all been busting to see for a long, long time :lol: All the negatives to the critics are high positives to the fans who screamed for a reboot in the first place.

As v said, sequel already a go. This is going to bring in HUGE bucks. Defiantly going to set a record for June block-buster. A couple more nights to wait! I'm jazzed up babi! :mrgreen:


Minus the kid-subplot, I thought Superman Returns was decent. Probably on-par with Singer's X films. Looking forward to seeing Snyder's MOS later this week.
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Re: MAN OF STEEL....OK, I'm excited now! :)

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:42 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:
verslibre wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:0:22 of that video has been consumed and now.....I am left disturbed. Nonetheless, the spoiler COULD be multiple things since there's a TON of 'stuff' going on that most say this is a movie you HAVE to see atleast 3 times just to have a full understanding of the creative nature that was engulfed in this movie when thinking sequels. We should exchange cell numbers and you can text me your INITIAL reactions when you're walking out of the theater. I'd be curious.


I expect nothing less from Goyer and Nolan. Nobody else has a hand in writing it, right? Nolan deliberately tries to avoid and discourage cheesy stuff, too. That's what I like about him. He was criticized for not liking Batman and being "embarrassed" he was doing Batman movies (which made no sense), but he was just trying to treat the character somewhat seriously. I'm not sure if I'll see Fri/Sat/Sun, but I'll see it opening weekend for sure. I'm not watching these two last trailers because they keep revealing stuff and the trailer three trailers ago was puh-lenty. To see somebody already rate it better than Avengers means something because while that movie's story was laid out face value-style, it was the first of its kind to be done that well and on a big budget.


It's funny how Man of Steel came about. The pitch and idea of MOS actually started when Goyer was feeling pressured to finish the last half of the script to TDKR. He was feeling burnt out and needed time away because he ate, slept and breathed Batman. Goyer went away and wanted ease his mind and indulge into some DIFFERENT literature other than Batman that shined a different light on any givin character.

If you want different (but the same) then why not read Superman?

He started reading multiple Superman stories and it was then where he started getting these insane ideas as to how he would tackle Superman and make him relevant again if he ever wrote him into a movie.

Nolan called Goyer and asked how things were coming with the final touch to TDKR script because WB was eager to read the finished product. He replied to Nolan (and I'm paraphrasing) "I'll get it done, don't worry...but I've been reading a lot of Superman in between and I know how to make him relevant again.."

He passed along his story to Nolan as to how his Superman would work. Nolan loved it so much, that he called WB right away. Though what he was calling for wasn't the finished TDKR script, he urged WB to hear them out about Goyers Superman idea.

Sure enough, since Nolan is a legend (they obviously trust him enough as a God-like status) WB set up a meeting. They were so impressed, they gave a Superman project a green-light and eventually hired Goyer to write the script once Nolan signed on to oversee the project.

It's weird that the Superman franchise was on the back-burner but resurrected during the last installment of Batman.

Most think MOS is going to be as dark as the TDK Trilogy and that ISN'T the case at all and so untrue. I do believe Goyer was the only one involved in the script and it's Snyder's visual baby. Nolan had nothing to do with it other than lifting it off the ground and overseeing some creative progress.

Other than that, Zack Snyder deserves 100% credit as far as the movie goes and how its visually directed (though you'll hear a lot of praise for Nolan from pure marketing and guaranteed ticket sales.)


Wasn't WB about to lose the movie rights to Superman? A Superman movie in some form was going to come out this year, regardless of Goyer's light bulb moment. Personally, and I haven't see MOS yet, I think Goyer basically sucks. He wrote and directed Blade 3, which was horrendous. Del Toro salvaged Blade 2 and made it into something special. But Goyer, left to his own devices, is very iffy. Luckily, Jonathan Nolan has been around to polish Goyer's scripts to DK and DKR. Jonathan (i think?) also has a writing credit for MOS, so I'm optimistic this will be another classic.
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