Porsche's New 918 Spyder Will Set You Back $850K!

[JRNYMAN]

Holy Shit!! That's a lot of cheese for a Porsche! I mean, yeah it's freakin' awesome, but still....
On the other hand, if you don't want to drop that much you can get the new $900 Porsche go-cart instead. The only bummer is it's peddle-powered.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084 ... ld-out-yet

[Rick]

Holy Shit!! That's a lot of cheese for a Porsche! I mean, yeah it's freakin' awesome, but still....
On the other hand, if you don't want to drop that much you can get the new $900 Porsche go-cart instead. The only bummer is it's peddle-powered.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084 ... ld-out-yet

Wasn't Porche bought out by some Arab company?

[JRNYMAN]

Holy Shit!! That's a lot of cheese for a Porsche! I mean, yeah it's freakin' awesome, but still....
On the other hand, if you don't want to drop that much you can get the new $900 Porsche go-cart instead. The only bummer is it's peddle-powered.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084 ... ld-out-yet

Wasn't Porche bought out by some Arab company?

Hmm... I hadn't heard that. I don't know. I know British Ford bought Jaguar a few years back and Mazda bought controlling stock in one of the lux car mfrs. but can't remember which one at the moment but as for Porsche, I don't know.
Last month's Robb Report had an article about the Dubais police force now having a Maserati and 2 Ferrari's in their fleet - all 3 of which are brand spankin' new and loaded just as they would be if purchased by a private buyer. Basically all they did was add a light bar and siren. Does a siren really do THAT much good if you're going 180+ mph?

[G.I.Jim]

I'll buy two of them! If you want to buy a car, there's only one place to shop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUTWz7nu_wk

[JRNYMAN]

I'll buy two of them! If you want to buy a car, there's only one place to shop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUTWz7nu_wk

Outstanding! I used to play that game back in the 90's. I sold several lines of new cars and was a true pro and always took care of my customers. Steveo is the same kind of salesman. But when it came to used cars.... well, that was a totally different ball game! This was pretty much me back then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKu2QNt_PUs

[The Sushi Hunter]

The only Porsche Spyder I'd be interested in getting would be the same exact make/model that James Dean had.

[JRNYMAN]

The only Porsche Spyder I'd be interested in getting would be the same exact make/model that James Dean had.

Why is that Sushi? Compared to today's technology and engineering leaps, his 1955 Spyder would be the equivalent of a slot car AND that particular year/model by all accounts had horrible steering/suspension problems. I'm curious why you would want that model and that model only.

[The Sushi Hunter]

The only Porsche Spyder I'd be interested in getting would be the same exact make/model that James Dean had.

Why is that Sushi? Compared to today's technology and engineering leaps, his 1955 Spyder would be the equivalent of a slot car AND that particular year/model by all accounts had horrible steering/suspension problems. I'm curious why you would want that model and that model only.

Well I get all that new performance and technology with my M5 BMW. The '55 Porsche Spyder would be that classic car that I could add to my collection where I would take it out only on nice cruise evenings like I already do with my '70 Cuda with the 440 six pack. It all just depends on the application I guess. In my situation it would be the classic hobby car deal, saving all that modern performance and technology for my BMW (daily driver).

[JRNYMAN]

The only Porsche Spyder I'd be interested in getting would be the same exact make/model that James Dean had.

Why is that Sushi? Compared to today's technology and engineering leaps, his 1955 Spyder would be the equivalent of a slot car AND that particular year/model by all accounts had horrible steering/suspension problems. I'm curious why you would want that model and that model only.

Well I get all that new performance and technology with my M5 BMW. The '55 Porsche Spyder would be that classic car that I could add to my collection where I would take it out only on nice cruise evenings like I already do with my '70 Cuda with the 440 six pack. It all just depends on the application I guess. In my situation it would be the classic hobby car deal, saving all that modern performance and technology for my BMW (daily driver).

If memory serves, you live in Daly City or South City right? And you drive and insure an M5 and a 70 Cuda among other vehicles.... damn, your insurance premiums must be through the roof living there! When I lived in Dublin with my folks at the time I became of legal age to drive, I remember the rates being astronomical way back then! I don't know how or why you Cali people do it! And you'd think that since California has 10% of the nation's population from which to feed the tax base that taxes and insurances would be less expensive - the more people paying into it the lower each person's nut should be. Instead it's exactly the opposite for some reason. I know, I know, it's not simple economics but you see what I'm saying...

[The Sushi Hunter]

If memory serves, you live in Daly City or South City right? And you drive and insure an M5 and a 70 Cuda among other vehicles.... damn, your insurance premiums must be through the roof living there! When I lived in Dublin with my folks at the time I became of legal age to drive, I remember the rates being astronomical way back then! I don't know how or why you Cali people do it! And you'd think that since California has 10% of the nation's population from which to feed the tax base that taxes and insurances would be less expensive - the more people paying into it the lower each person's nut should be. Instead it's exactly the opposite for some reason. I know, I know, it's not simple economics but you see what I'm saying...

No, we are located about 35 miles South of San Francisco. Insurance....not as bad as you would think. The Cuda is under special collector car insurance, where I am very limited to how many miles I can drive it per calendar year, where it can and can't be parked, etc. It's classified as a "recreational" vehicle. Check on it and you will be a bit surprised how little it can be per year to insure a vehicle under that type of insurance policy. It's not through your typical AAA, Farmer's or insurance companies like that. It's exclusively for collector cars which are driven as such, not daily drivers. But there are lots of restrictions though such as mentioned above plus others, can't drive it more than 150 miles radius from home of record, have to have it parked in a secured garage, etc. and have to get it appraised by a vehicle appraiser before getting the insurance policy on it. Lot's of restrictions and stuff but well worth it I think. I only drive it between 700 and 900 miles per year so it works out well for me. The BMW, a bit more pricy and not under the same type of classification. Good driving record, what city you reside in and the insurance company that you insure with have a big impact on the premium cost. Like living in a town full of shitheads, premiums are higher because of the assholes around that area. My wife has an Mercedes SL500 and that's even more than my BMW. Anyways....

[JRNYMAN]

If memory serves, you live in Daly City or South City right? And you drive and insure an M5 and a 70 Cuda among other vehicles.... damn, your insurance premiums must be through the roof living there! When I lived in Dublin with my folks at the time I became of legal age to drive, I remember the rates being astronomical way back then! I don't know how or why you Cali people do it! And you'd think that since California has 10% of the nation's population from which to feed the tax base that taxes and insurances would be less expensive - the more people paying into it the lower each person's nut should be. Instead it's exactly the opposite for some reason. I know, I know, it's not simple economics but you see what I'm saying...

No, we are located about 35 miles South of San Francisco. Insurance....not as bad as you would think. The Cuda is under special collector car insurance, where I am very limited to how many miles I can drive it per calendar year, where it can and can't be parked, etc. It's classified as a "recreational" vehicle. Check on it and you will be a bit surprised how little it can be per year to insure a vehicle under that type of insurance policy. It's not through your typical AAA, Farmer's or insurance companies like that. It's exclusively for collector cars which are driven as such, not daily drivers. But there are lots of restrictions though such as mentioned above plus others, can't drive it more than 150 miles radius from home of record, have to have it parked in a secured garage, etc. and have to get it appraised by a vehicle appraiser before getting the insurance policy on it. Lot's of restrictions and stuff but well worth it I think. I only drive it between 700 and 900 miles per year so it works out well for me. The BMW, a bit more pricy and not under the same type of classification. Good driving record, what city you reside in and the insurance company that you insure with have a big impact on the premium cost. Like living in a town full of shitheads, premiums are higher because of the assholes around that area. My wife has an Mercedes SL500 and that's even more than my BMW. Anyways....

We have a Bimmer and a Mercedes as well. However, my BMW is an '82 320i that I bought about 10 years or so ago as a project car for $700 which I have fully restored. Fun little coupe. My wife's Mercedes is an '89 450SL that she's had since brand new and is her daily driver. I only carry liability on the 320i since carrying anything more would be ludicrous since it's basically a "scratch-n-total" in the insurance company's eyes. And of course, insurance here in Arizona isn't tons cheaper than in the Bay Area, but it's still less expensive for those of us with excellent driving records, multiple car discounts, no accidents, etc., etc. When I think about how much I pay to State Farm every year with the boat, 4 vehicles, a newly acquired scooter, homeowner's, etc., it just makes me want to scream! All the money paid to them over the decades with only one accident claimed in 30 years and a few replaced windshields along the way.... man what I could do with that pile of cash!
My best friend on the other hand just went through a nasty situation with his homeowner's insurance. A guest of theirs slipped on the front step and fell and cracked their skull pretty badly. After the surgeries, loss of work, therapy, etc., the bills were getting close to a million dollars and his ins. company contacts him and says they are only obligated up to a certain amount and when it's reached, he would have to pay the rest - which is complete and total bullshit and highly illegal - and that in addition to that, he was being cancelled and they would be notifying FHA, his mortgage company, and on and on which apparently is required by a company when they cancel coverage on a dwelling that has a mortgage - especially a federally insured mortgage. It got really nasty and almost came to blows between him and the team of appraisers that were given the task of making his life Hell. He's in the middle of a huge lawsuit with them now and most likely will win hands down because of their shady practices, harassment, etc. which he has either on audio and/or audio/video. By the time it's over, he just might end up owning said company!

[Archetype]

Holy Shit!! That's a lot of cheese for a Porsche! I mean, yeah it's freakin' awesome, but still....
On the other hand, if you don't want to drop that much you can get the new $900 Porsche go-cart instead. The only bummer is it's peddle-powered.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084 ... ld-out-yet

Wasn't Porche bought out by some Arab company?

Hmm... I hadn't heard that. I don't know. I know British Ford bought Jaguar a few years back and Mazda bought controlling stock in one of the lux car mfrs. but can't remember which one at the moment but as for Porsche, I don't know.
Last month's Robb Report had an article about the Dubais police force now having a Maserati and 2 Ferrari's in their fleet - all 3 of which are brand spankin' new and loaded just as they would be if purchased by a private buyer. Basically all they did was add a light bar and siren. Does a siren really do THAT much good if you're going 180+ mph?

The atmosphere of Dubai can't even be put into words. Those high performance cop cars would barely even grab your attention there compared to everything else going on.

[The Sushi Hunter]

We have a Bimmer and a Mercedes as well. However, my BMW is an '82 320i that I bought about 10 years or so ago as a project car for $700 which I have fully restored. Fun little coupe. My wife's Mercedes is an '89 450SL that she's had since brand new and is her daily driver. I only carry liability on the 320i since carrying anything more would be ludicrous since it's basically a "scratch-n-total" in the insurance company's eyes. And of course, insurance here in Arizona isn't tons cheaper than in the Bay Area, but it's still less expensive for those of us with excellent driving records, multiple car discounts, no accidents, etc., etc. When I think about how much I pay to State Farm every year with the boat, 4 vehicles, a newly acquired scooter, homeowner's, etc., it just makes me want to scream! All the money paid to them over the decades with only one accident claimed in 30 years and a few replaced windshields along the way.... man what I could do with that pile of cash!
My best friend on the other hand just went through a nasty situation with his homeowner's insurance. A guest of theirs slipped on the front step and fell and cracked their skull pretty badly. After the surgeries, loss of work, therapy, etc., the bills were getting close to a million dollars and his ins. company contacts him and says they are only obligated up to a certain amount and when it's reached, he would have to pay the rest - which is complete and total bullshit and highly illegal - and that in addition to that, he was being cancelled and they would be notifying FHA, his mortgage company, and on and on which apparently is required by a company when they cancel coverage on a dwelling that has a mortgage - especially a federally insured mortgage. It got really nasty and almost came to blows between him and the team of appraisers that were given the task of making his life Hell. He's in the middle of a huge lawsuit with them now and most likely will win hands down because of their shady practices, harassment, etc. which he has either on audio and/or audio/video. By the time it's over, he just might end up owning said company!

First off, most, if not all car insurance companies such as Farmers, AAA, etc. won't fully insure a used car that's over 15 years or so old. Because they aren't stupid and probably from past experiences figured out that people would fully insure a clunker that they purchased for a few hundred dollars and then turn around and have "something" happen to it to collect. The only way around that is if you purchased the car brand new and had full coverage on it from day one. Now if you've always had full coverage on it and now the car is over 20 years old, you can still have the same full coverage policy. It's if you just buy an older car say from the late 80's or 90's and try to get full coverage on it. You'll be pretty much SOL if you try to get full coverage for it.

So you have a boat, truck, scooter, on top of cars, well then that's why your paying so much, especially a boat. I don't know anything about a boat but I know if it flies or floats, you pay a ton for insurance, among other things.

In all reality, I'm hoping to get this Cuda sold. If I get the Cuda sold, I'm hoping within this year or next, I would then get rid of the current BMW I got and then just get one nice daily driver. It will most likely be another BMW as I cound't be more happy with BMW products. The wife's SL500, that was something her parents got that she asked them for. She's even thinking about getting rid of that one in the next few years since it's only a two seater and we have kids, so it's not practical. I'd like to get rid of all three vehicles and get one nice family orientated vehicle. Also I bet I'm at least ten years old then you are, well I'm not so sure about that but I'm betting I am. Since I'm older, my insurance is a bit cheaper as well.

Anyways, that Porsche Spyder make/model that James Dean had would be a nice little hobby car to have imo. But if I had the opportunity to buy one, I probably would pass on it because of my first hand experience with hobby cars. I love the Cuda and it generates so much attention when I get it out for a drive. But it's starting to be a real burden. It takes up space in the garage, I have to constantly be concerned with it, all the spare parts that I've collected over the past 26 years, not to mention it costs at least $1,000 per year just to own it (fuel, insurance, registration and the service and maintenance). I'd be better off getting rid of it and then taking that $1,000 per year and putting it into a high rate of interest investment.

[JRNYMAN]

We have a Bimmer and a Mercedes as well. However, my BMW is an '82 320i that I bought about 10 years or so ago as a project car for $700 which I have fully restored. Fun little coupe. My wife's Mercedes is an '89 450SL that she's had since brand new and is her daily driver. I only carry liability on the 320i since carrying anything more would be ludicrous since it's basically a "scratch-n-total" in the insurance company's eyes. And of course, insurance here in Arizona isn't tons cheaper than in the Bay Area, but it's still less expensive for those of us with excellent driving records, multiple car discounts, no accidents, etc., etc. When I think about how much I pay to State Farm every year with the boat, 4 vehicles, a newly acquired scooter, homeowner's, etc., it just makes me want to scream! All the money paid to them over the decades with only one accident claimed in 30 years and a few replaced windshields along the way.... man what I could do with that pile of cash!
My best friend on the other hand just went through a nasty situation with his homeowner's insurance. A guest of theirs slipped on the front step and fell and cracked their skull pretty badly. After the surgeries, loss of work, therapy, etc., the bills were getting close to a million dollars and his ins. company contacts him and says they are only obligated up to a certain amount and when it's reached, he would have to pay the rest - which is complete and total bullshit and highly illegal - and that in addition to that, he was being cancelled and they would be notifying FHA, his mortgage company, and on and on which apparently is required by a company when they cancel coverage on a dwelling that has a mortgage - especially a federally insured mortgage. It got really nasty and almost came to blows between him and the team of appraisers that were given the task of making his life Hell. He's in the middle of a huge lawsuit with them now and most likely will win hands down because of their shady practices, harassment, etc. which he has either on audio and/or audio/video. By the time it's over, he just might end up owning said company!

First off, most, if not all car insurance companies such as Farmers, AAA, etc. won't fully insure a used car that's over 15 years or so old. Because they aren't stupid and probably from past experiences figured out that people would fully insure a clunker that they purchased for a few hundred dollars and then turn around and have "something" happen to it to collect. The only way around that is if you purchased the car brand new and had full coverage on it from day one. Now if you've always had full coverage on it and now the car is over 20 years old, you can still have the same full coverage policy. It's if you just buy an older car say from the late 80's or 90's and try to get full coverage on it. You'll be pretty much SOL if you try to get full coverage for it.

So you have a boat, truck, scooter, on top of cars, well then that's why your paying so much, especially a boat. I don't know anything about a boat but I know if it flies or floats, you pay a ton for insurance, among other things.

In all reality, I'm hoping to get this Cuda sold. If I get the Cuda sold, I'm hoping within this year or next, I would then get rid of the current BMW I got and then just get one nice daily driver. It will most likely be another BMW as I cound't be more happy with BMW products. The wife's SL500, that was something her parents got that she asked them for. She's even thinking about getting rid of that one in the next few years since it's only a two seater and we have kids, so it's not practical. I'd like to get rid of all three vehicles and get one nice family orientated vehicle. Also I bet I'm at least ten years old then you are, well I'm not so sure about that but I'm betting I am. Since I'm older, my insurance is a bit cheaper as well.

Anyways, that Porsche Spyder make/model that James Dean had would be a nice little hobby car to have imo. But if I had the opportunity to buy one, I probably would pass on it because of my first hand experience with hobby cars. I love the Cuda and it generates so much attention when I get it out for a drive. But it's starting to be a real burden. It takes up space in the garage, I have to constantly be concerned with it, all the spare parts that I've collected over the past 26 years, not to mention it costs at least $1,000 per year just to own it (fuel, insurance, registration and the service and maintenance). I'd be better off getting rid of it and then taking that $1,000 per year and putting it into a high rate of interest investment.

The boat:
Nope, the boat is the 2nd lowest cost to insure after my BMW which is right around $300 per year. Boats are super cheap to insure here because most if not all ins. co's. add them as a rider on your homeowner's policy. Now, the first time you get a DUI in your boat or are convicted of wreckless boating which is basically the equivalent of assault with a deadly weapon as far as the police and insurance co's. go, things change dramatically and it affects your driving record, your vehicle insurance, you get an automatic 9 points added to your driving record and you don't even want to talk about a 2nd offense within 5 years!

High insurance prem's:
I didn't mean I pay high premiums comparatively. I meant that all the money I pay to an insurance company period. It would be different if all the money over the years replaced a couple of cars or I benefited from it somehow but I don't because I don't get in accidents, get tickets, get vandalized, etc. Insurance just sucks period.

Age:
Don't be too ready to claim an age bracket you really don't belong to. Unless you're almost 60, you're not a decade older than me. I'll be 49 in November. I look like I'm 35 and act like I'm still 25.

Truth be told, I've only ever driven a Porsche once in my life. I took a Targa Carerra in on trade back when I sold cars in the 90's and once the deal was done and the owner had taken delivery of their new vehicle, I got permission from the GM to use it as my demo for a weekend since they were going to take it to auction immediately with no intentions of putting it on their Honda lot. It was a lot of fun and hands down the tightest steering and handling I've ever experienced. Everything was just so precisely tuned and mated. Definitely very high attention to detail and very low tolerances for gap lines, etc. Other than that, I have nothing to compare driving a Porsche to - not even another Porsche.