Survivor is dead.

by **Andrew** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:32 am

My call -

There will be no new album ever.

Jimi won't hang around indefinitely waiting for promises to be fulfilled.

Nor will fans.

by **JTRock** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:00 pm

I believe you're right Andrew. With the music industry being what it is, what's the point of them releasing new music? Journey is a way more popular band, yet they admit that releasing their last album wasn't worth it. This would be a much more acceptable reason, than just sheer laziness or lack of motivation.

by **scarab** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:41 pm

I am hoping Jimi does bail, seen him a few times in the last few years solo, and he is just as good if not better than Survivor, plus you get to hear some deep tracks and not the same old stale dirty 1/2 dozen.

by **jaxmanjoe** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:01 am

At least we still have the old music to listen to. Frankie's lack of interest in the future does not stop my enjoyment of the past accomplishments of the band. I'll still have their music on my iPhone and computer and they will always be in heavy rotation.

Disappointed there seems to be no more music forthcoming? Sure. Not going to let it destroy my history with the band and all the good times I had and continue to have listening to them.

I think our 80's sound is just not going to be re-created, even from the 80's bands. I haven't heard anything from my favorite bands in recent years that touch greatness. The last great album from one of my bands was Arrival by Journey. Maybe Eddie Money's Ready Eddie.

God. I know how my parents felt listening to music that will never be made again from their youths...

We're getting old.

Joe

by **JTRock** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:13 am

jaxmanjoe wrote:I think our 80's sound is just not going to be re-created, even from the 80's bands.

The sad thing is the my kid and future generations won't be exposed to the diversity of music we had, way back when.

Now Bruno Mars releases a song that sounds like a Police song, and kids these days will assume its new and original, when I could sing "Message in a Bottle" along to this rip off.

The music industry is dead.

by **bulldog** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:00 am

I agree with Andrew ! I am surprised Jimi hasn't toured yet in 2013 with his new material ! Jimi busted his ass the past few years to make himself a viable solo artist . He needs to get on the opening bill on some other classic artist tours or start getting a full band together and tour the States. A Jimi Jamison show is better than a 10 song setlist of a Survivor show.
Jimi plays all the hits plus his songs and makes for a better and exciting show in my opinion.

Pride Of Lions ! Are they done ? Peterik & Jamison should have worked on more material !

Survivor doesn't have that live concert track record . They play in small midwest pockets of the world mostly.

I think Eddie Money did it right from an artist of the same era. Just give it to the fans live , treat them good and make a fun party. Eddie never had a need for new music all the time and never had to rely on selling cds to make a living.

Jimi never got the royalty checks the other guys in Survivor got. At 60 yrs old he was working harder than all of them in Europe to get his name out there and get albums for download released. Why did he ever return to Survivor when they played hardly any shows in 2012 ? There is no way the money was that great to give up on touring under his own new music for that.

by **Mikele** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:34 am

Pride of LIons new album is set for release, so they're not dead at all.

Andrew, before saying that Survivor are dead, let's see how european dates go. The market it's obviously there for these acts. Frontier labels (which is italian) knows that very well. It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Serafino on Survivor, since they were signed with the label. But. again, playing in Europe is a massive step ahead, at least compared to what we've seen (nothing) in the past 5 years.

by **def** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:14 am

Well, haven't they been dead since the first day the unsinspired Reach-release had been published? Since then I have only been looking to get some of the lost demos and of course Dave Bickler stuff. This has not been too successful, especially when the probably only owner of the Haunted Tiger demos is not wanting to share them...

I will not got to St. Goarshausen, Germany, when they are scheduled to play with Whitesnake, Toto, Rick Springfield etc..

Reasons:
- I do not believe or trust them that they finally appear.
- Even so, they alone are no reason anymore to go to a festival of which billing a have seen most of the other bands already.
- I do not find one desparate soul who is willing to go with me there just because SURVIVOR may be there or not...
- I have had my SURVIVOR live experience at least with Bickler, Peterik and - who cares - Sullivan in 1993. There is no way that they will ever top that.

Jamison is still on a worthy musical journey, Peterik too and hopefully Bickler finally releases his solo album...SURVIVOR is hopefully over.

P.S.: When will Peterik's memoirs be published? I want some dirty laundry or at least a reasonable explanation, why and how a band with such an unbelievable talent for songwriting finnaly did not work out...

by **Journey/Survivor** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:13 am

Funny thing is that I almost started a thread on here with the exact same title a few days ago.

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:02 am

JTRock wrote:
The sad thing is the my kid and future generations won't be exposed to the diversity of music we had, way back when.

The diversity is out there....probably more than ever. There is SO much access, it's just harder to filter through. But kids figure it out. The industry may be dead, but in no way is the music.

by **Andrew** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:26 am

Mikele wrote:Andrew, before saying that Survivor are dead, let's see how european dates go.

Does matter. The band is dead and the EU tour will perhaps be the last chapter.

by **Destiny** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:37 pm

Why I've got this feeling that Andrew knows more ?

So ok. If the EU Tour will be the last gigs isn't it a chance for Jamison or Peterik to fill the dead body of this band with New life ?

by **MarcelJordan** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:09 am

Andrew wrote:
Mikele wrote:Andrew, before saying that Survivor are dead, let's see how european dates go.

Does matter. The band is dead and the EU tour will perhaps be the last chapter.

You're confident theyll show up?

MJ

by **Yoda** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:15 am

I look at it like this. Peterik has Pride of Lions going strong. Jimi Jamison has been very active as of late. So, if the band itself is about ready to call it a day, then at least there is still some type of SurivorISH music to look forward to, both in studio and live.

Journey fans are starting to sense that the end might not be too far off in the distance, and right now, they really don't have anything to fall back on. Steve Augeri is actively touring and putting out bits and pieces of new material, but it's not really "Journey" sounding material. Steve Perry continues to string along his diehard fans but remains a recluse. I feel when that day comes and Journey's wheels stop turning, that fanbase is really going to suffer. But Survivor's fanbase still has hope to have something to feed the Survivor urges.

by **Destiny** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:57 am

I really love Pride of Lions but it's not something like a Survivor clone. Where they are ? They've got a great new album but where are the tourdates ? There's nothing. Here in europe fans would like come with open arms to see them but the only one who comes over years is Jamison. He's working his ass off and bring the ghost of Survivor to the fans while Sullivan and Peterik doing nothin at the tour front.

by **Tito** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:34 am

Apparently everyone missed this a month ago in a different thread. You're all wrong!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vqGyWTs3c[/url]

by **Abitaman** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:19 am

Jim and Jimmy should start a group called Survivor 2, or sue Frankie for the name. Jimmy yin the 90's toured as Survivor, why can't they again? Take it on the road and see Frankie in court. Give a cut of $, anything, just make some music with a good guitarist for a change.

by **Destiny** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:42 pm

Jim is much to tired for touring I think. Like I told..he don´t bring his POL on the road and it wouldn´t change if he have the option to tour under the Survivor logo. Give Jimi the fucking name and he can tour his ass off. He´s the only one who earns the name just because he LOVES playing live and is the only one who´s giving the fans what they want. Let Frankie play airguitar in his bathroom and Jim produce another boring jazz, soul or whatever album.

by **Yoda** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:55 pm

I'd love for Jim Petrik, Jimi Jamison, and Dave Bickler to get together and write new "Survivor" music, let them record it under some project name that relates to Survivor, and let Jimi and Dave get a good group of musicians together and tour as the voices of "Survivor" or something like that. Survivor is one of those bands where I loved the vocals from both Dave and Jimi, and had always felt having those two guys on one CD would be awesome if the songs sounded like Survivor.

by **Destiny** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:07 am

There is not making enuogh money with a record like this and Jimi and Dave on the front is to much. Just give the rights on the band name to someone who deserve it and bring the songs live to people!It was so fucking amazing what Jimi done at Firefest 2011 with guys from H.E.A.T. in the back and Tommy Denander on guitar. This was passion for music. The guys had fun and played so fucking great. Sure ...Frankie and Jim wrote the songs but they don´t live them anymore. They´re sick of it and the result ist that we´re siting here and talking about "what if". Jim P. isn´t little better than Frankie. Ok..he put out a POL album here and there but the fans wan´t more than 11 songs in 3 years. They want the songs live. The new ones and the classics. And here in europe...we pay for it! But no live shows...just broken promises. Like I told...Give it all to Jamison and let him tour till the end of days with it.

by **Yoda** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:18 pm

Destiny wrote:There is not making enuogh money with a record like this and Jimi and Dave on the front is to much. Just give the rights on the band name to someone who deserve it and bring the songs live to people!It was so fucking amazing what Jimi done at Firefest 2011 with guys from H.E.A.T. in the back and Tommy Denander on guitar. This was passion for music. The guys had fun and played so fucking great. Sure ...Frankie and Jim wrote the songs but they don´t live them anymore. They´re sick of it and the result ist that we´re siting here and talking about "what if". Jim P. isn´t little better than Frankie. Ok..he put out a POL album here and there but the fans wan´t more than 11 songs in 3 years. They want the songs live. The new ones and the classics. And here in europe...we pay for it! But no live shows...just broken promises. Like I told...Give it all to Jamison and let him tour till the end of days with it.

I understand what you're saying. You want the band to tour live and hear their classic live. I'd love to hear Survivor live as well. I've never been to a Survivor concert, so it would be a treat for me, too. However, having listened to their classics time and time again, I would hate to think that any of these guys, whether if it is Jimi or Jim, Dave or Frankie, would never grace us with new material. I want these bands to continue being creative, especially if some of these guys still have a passion for it, such as what Jimi does. I only threw out the idea of a CD with both Jimi and Dave, because I love both singers and I haven't head anything new out of Dave in years. And Dave was a guest singer on Jimi's Crossroads CD, so I don't think it would be an impossible feat to have them both partner up for a disc. I'm not saying it would be Survivor. I'm just saying that I would want the music to be in the style of Survivor - Jim or Dave could call it whatever they want.

by **G.I.Jim** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:01 am

Yoda wrote:I'd love for Jim Petrik, Jimi Jamison, and Dave Bickler to get together and write new "Survivor" music, let them record it under some project name that relates to Survivor, and let Jimi and Dave get a good group of musicians together and tour as the voices of "Survivor" or something like that. Survivor is one of those bands where I loved the vocals from both Dave and Jimi, and had always felt having those two guys on one CD would be awesome if the songs sounded like Survivor.

Very good idea! They could call it "Survived". :lol:

by **Yoda** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:22 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Yoda wrote:I'd love for Jim Petrik, Jimi Jamison, and Dave Bickler to get together and write new "Survivor" music, let them record it under some project name that relates to Survivor, and let Jimi and Dave get a good group of musicians together and tour as the voices of "Survivor" or something like that. Survivor is one of those bands where I loved the vocals from both Dave and Jimi, and had always felt having those two guys on one CD would be awesome if the songs sounded like Survivor.

Very good idea! They could call it "Survived".

Perfect!!!!!

by **Eyeof** » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:44 am

I think Dave, JP and JJ should start a group and call it "Frankie is a duesh bag".

by **Lionheart** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:13 am

It may be indeed that we would never see the band like the times of REACH but the music is there and is a treasure that cant be forgotten

MR

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