MAN OF STEEL....OK, I'm excited now! :)

[verslibre]

Yup. Not sure how anyone can deny this. Desperate move from a desperate stillborn franchise. MOS may have made a little more bank than Superman Returns, but the buzz is about the same. Nobody really gives a fuck.

Superman Returns
Budget
$270,000,000 (est.)
Opening Weekend July 2 (US)
$52,535,096 (USA)
Total Gross October 29 (US)
$200,081,192
Total Worldwide Gross
$391,081,092

Man Of Steel
Budget
$225,000,000 (est.)
Opening Weekend June 16 (US)
$116,619,362
Total Gross July 28 (US)
286,818,000
Total Worldwide Gross
636,818,000

Opening weekend domestic + total domestic + total worldwide...Man Of Steel kicks Superman Returns' ass up and down the block all day and twice on Sunday.

[verslibre]

And when it comes to Bryan Singer's movie costing 45 million MORE to make 7-8 years ago...I can't even tell where the fucking money went!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

And when it comes to Bryan Singer's movie costing 45 million MORE to make 7-8 years ago...I can't even tell where the fucking money went!!

I think Kevin Spacey's hairpiece had its own trailer. Listen, Returns was ok. I'm not dogging on it. Lois was horribly cast, the kid idea was dumb, and Luthor's plot was dull, dull, dull. As for MOS....it has the benefit of inflated 3d ticket prices. Nobody really cares about either movie. MOS was playing at the $2.00 discount theaters in a matter of weeks. It had no staying power at all.

[verslibre]

And when it comes to Bryan Singer's movie costing 45 million MORE to make 7-8 years ago...I can't even tell where the fucking money went!!

I think Kevin Spacey's hairpiece had its own trailer.

You're joking, but you're on the money. Spacey (the only "big" actor in the film) and the big kryptonite mountain sequence were reportedly the two most expensive things about the film. It just doesn't look like a $270M movie.

Listen, Returns was ok. I'm not dogging on it. Lois was horribly cast, the kid idea was dumb, and Luthor's plot was dull, dull, dull. As for MOS....it has the benefit of inflated 3d ticket prices. Nobody really cares about either movie. MOS was playing at the $2.00 discount theaters in a matter of weeks. It had no staying power at all.

I still don't get where the "nobody cares" is coming from. MoS' buzz has calmed some, but it's done better than expected, whereas The Wolverine's domestic opening is half of MoS. For all the flak Warner Bros. got, Fox should be much more concerned. The Wolverine was made for $50M less than its predecessor, yet it still opened to $30M less stateside. Aren't Wolverines and Hugh Jackmans and Marvel mutants supposed to be hot shit?

What it really boils down to is: too many movies came out this summer. Every week it seems like something major is coming out. Every genre has been represented by multiple films: Star Trek Into Darkness, Man Of Steel, Despicable Me 2, World War Z, Pacific Rim, Grown Ups 2, The Conjuring, Turbo, R.I.P.D., The Wolverine, etc., and Elysium is due in a few. No wonder some people are content with waiting till certain flicks hit DVD.

[YoungJRNY]

And when it comes to Bryan Singer's movie costing 45 million MORE to make 7-8 years ago...I can't even tell where the fucking money went!!

I think Kevin Spacey's hairpiece had its own trailer.

You're joking, but you're on the money. Spacey (the only "big" actor in the film) and the big kryptonite mountain sequence were reportedly the two most expensive things about the film. It just doesn't look like a $270M movie.

Listen, Returns was ok. I'm not dogging on it. Lois was horribly cast, the kid idea was dumb, and Luthor's plot was dull, dull, dull. As for MOS....it has the benefit of inflated 3d ticket prices. Nobody really cares about either movie. MOS was playing at the $2.00 discount theaters in a matter of weeks. It had no staying power at all.

I still don't get where the "nobody cares" is coming from. MoS' buzz has calmed some, but it's done better than expected, whereas The Wolverine's domestic opening is half of MoS. For all the flak Warner Bros. got, Fox should be much more concerned. The Wolverine was made for $50M less than its predecessor, yet it still opened to $30M less stateside. Aren't Wolverines and Hugh Jackmans and Marvel mutants supposed to be hot shit?

What it really boils down to is: too many movies came out this summer. Every week it seems like something major is coming out. Every genre has been represented by multiple films: Star Trek Into Darkness, Man Of Steel, Despicable Me 2, World War Z, Pacific Rim, Grown Ups 2, The Conjuring, Turbo, R.I.P.D., The Wolverine, etc., and Elysium is due in a few. No wonder some people are content with waiting till certain flicks hit DVD.

Stahp. Just stahp making so much fucking sense and start bashing everything illogically so we can keep arguing how everything sucks and nobody gives a fuck. Right on the goddamn money dude. With every word.

It's no secret MOS has got some flack, even some hate, but the changes by WB/Goyer/Snyder were expecting this type of backlash for the hardest character to tackle like Superman and most critics couldn't accept a direction so different on screen with their preconceived expectations.

Though most of those categories of people didn't like the non-linear approach, lack of love story and "too much action", many upon many were won over by the same standards and Superman garnered in a new fanbase because of it, which was the intent all along. MOS gained more recognition to the fanbase than it lost and that is hard to accomplish with Superman. For the most part, the GA loves MOS so it's exciting where they will take it from here in a larger universe.

[verslibre]

With the exception of a select few (or two, as in Kurosawa and planetman ), everyone WILL go see the next film.

[YoungJRNY]

With the exception of a select few (or two, as in Kurosawa and planetman ), everyone WILL go see the next film.

Don't let them fool you. They will see it and have seen MOS, front row in their red-panties.... twice over.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Stahp. Just stahp making so much fucking sense and start bashing everything illogically so we can keep arguing how everything sucks and nobody gives a fuck. Right on the goddamn money dude. With every word.

Yeh, dude, because all the "haters" just hallucinated the film's rapid decent and eventual dissaperance from the box office chart. MOS and Star Trek 2 were probably the two biggest financial dissapointments of the summer. I think its pretty intellectually dishonest to compare a summer tentpole like Superman to RIPD (based on an obscure comic) or The Conjuring (a haunted house flick with no celebrities).

[YoungJRNY]

MOS and Star Trek 2 were probably the two biggest financial dissapointments of the summer.

You're outta your Gaul if you seriously consider MOS's $643+ million dollars WW (and counting; yet to open in Japan until August) a disappointment. It's just not true dude.

When it's all said and done, MOS should get very, very close and flirt with $700 million WW, which is very hefty for a rebooted franchise for a studio known for flop after flop. Man of Steel is NOT that, pretty damn far from it.

In fact, it gives WB a very successful franchise to compete further down the road and give them confidence in their future acts and gives them one of their most prized characters back in the spotlight to advance in creativity. MOS proved there's still a market for Superman, which was the goal all along.

Goyer himself, out of his own mouth, said the magic number for WB is $600 million WW and even with the HUGE 64% drop in the second week, it still smashed that number (currently at $643,857,505 and of course, counting.) The numbers are where their supposed to be. No other way to spin it.

I think its pretty intellectually dishonest to compare a summer tentpole like Superman to RIPD (based on an obscure comic) or The Conjuring (a haunted house flick with no celebrities).

I'll give you that, only if you admit that it's intellectually dishonest not to compare the other summer tentpole's like DOMINANT Pixar films like Monsters University coming out that VERY next weekend and the summer BO not letting up in other releases such as Despicable Me 2 and America's latest zombie sweetheart in WWZ and comedies such as Grown Ups 2 to consistently compete with week after week.

MOS's showtimes were cut viciously out from underneath them as animation film after animation film needed those theaters, let alone the same genre like The Wolverine coming a month later. Still, MOS respectfully stabilized on its own merits in that stiff competition.

To consider MOS a financial disappointment while failing to realize the factual statements above is non-debatable any longer. $643+ WW and counting is no slouch for a reboot that automatically got the sequel greenlight just a months later, especially flat out DESTROYING its predecessor in Superman Returns.

Ohwell, in the end, I'm sure somebody will gladly warm up the seat you would of occupied in a sold out theater for WF in 2015 It's ALL good.

[YoungJRNY]

[verslibre]

That's pretty cool. Didjoo make that?

[verslibre]

(currently at $643,857,505

Where did you get this figure? Looks like boxofficemojo.com was off by about 7-8M last I checked it.

[YoungJRNY]

Nah, took it from a manips thread on SHH in the MOS forum.
Theres another variation of that image, ill post it here in a sec..

As for the BO, just updated last night on the 28th..foreign usually every Sunday.

[YoungJRNY]

[verslibre]

The first one's better. Maybe a different PoV on the second would improve it.

[YoungJRNY]

Yeah, that first one says it all. Almost speaks for itself without words

[The_Noble_Cause]

Still, MOS respectfully stabilized on its own merits in that stiff competition.

Except it didn't. It dropped precipitously in its second week, and kept dropping.

[YoungJRNY]

Except it didn't. It dropped precipitously in its second week, and kept dropping.

It didn't keep dropping (maybe on the numbered charts with other big movies released week after week, but not in its own overall numbering system.)

The big 2nd week drop was a scare and many thought the bleeding wouldn't be stopped (thus, total failure like GL.)

The weeks after proved that NOT to be the case. Instead, Man of Steel stabilized in the following weeks up against stiff competition and brought in some respectful numbers, especially over 4th of July weekend.

If it kept dropping and dropping like you describe, it wouldn't have even made it to $500 million WW if the second weekend were to have its way with the rest of its run.

MOS got a boost on its own merits and finished within the number it was supposed to: Over $600 million WW, which was the number WB had its eye on to label this reboot a success.

WB didn't waste anytime announcing the Supes/Bats crossover (if MOS was deemed a disappointment, we wouldn't have had any news at SDCC and the studio would have regrouped.)

Best case scenario for MOS was a sequel introducing the new Batman. Worst case was a solo Bat reboot for 2015. MOS stabilized after the big 2nd week meltdown and brushed itself off. It could have been ugly and could have projected under expectations. Instead, it exceeded them.

[verslibre]

Still, MOS respectfully stabilized on its own merits in that stiff competition.

Except it didn't. It dropped precipitously in its second week, and kept dropping.

Too many other movies people want(ed) to see. Watch The Wolverine take a swirl down the Tidy Bowl next week. It has the lowest opening of all the X-flicks to date.

[The_Noble_Cause]

So on a different note...any of you guys see Wolverine yet? I'm gonna try to catch a matinee this week. "Wolvie: Origins" was awful.

[verslibre]

Eventually. Not in a rush to see it in the thee-ay-ter after hearing some things about it. And the robot Silver Samurai pisses me off. The only motivation I have to see it is hot Japanese chicks.

[YoungJRNY]

So on a different note...any of you guys see Wolverine yet? I'm gonna try to catch a matinee this week. "Wolvie: Origins" was awful.

I saw it Friday night with a few of my buddies. It was an okay, solid late summer flick. The 2nd act was kind of dragging and boring but there is one action sequence that totally stole the show for me. Though the 3rd act suffers and will probably feel like you've seen this 100X over since 2000, that one action sequence I won't go much into will be well worth the price of admission. Other than that, though I always loved Jackman as the face of Wolvie, it's the typical Jackman, "X-yadayada" performance. I'm simply over his interpretation of Wolverine.

[YoungJRNY]

Eventually. Not in a rush to see it in the thee-ay-ter after hearing some things about it. And the robot Silver Samurai pisses me off. The only motivation I have to see it is hot Japanese chicks.

That would be SWEET..if there were hot Japanese chicks, haha. I didn't think the Japanese counter-parts, acting-wise- was all that tight. I mean, one just dialogues "LOGAN!" about 1 million times over. Kind of annoying.

[verslibre]

Go look at the 'box office' thread, dude.

[YoungJRNY]

The temperature in the BO thread is hitting a new high pm is so ridiculous and laugh out loud hilarious that we are now treating him like a prop, lmao. I'm Tra-El BTW in case you didn't know

[verslibre]

The temperature in the BO thread is hitting a new high pm is so ridiculous and laugh out loud hilarious that we are now treating him like a prop, lmao. I'm Tra-El BTW in case you didn't know

I knowz, I knowz!

[YoungJRNY]

I thought this was very interesting and relevant. 1,000 movie goers were polled at theaters in NYC about Batman Vs Superman and Man Of Steel among other questions.

It's interesting because this is the general public, and this is who WB/DC is targeting.

http://www.gotham-news.com/news/2013/07 ... nouncement

[YoungJRNY]

Regarding the BO, boxofficemojo seemed to have
predicted MOS's #'s almost exactly. $290 dom;
$360 foreign. Practically identical. Kudos to them for
calling it right on the money.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3674

[verslibre]

I thought this was very interesting and relevant. 1,000 movie goers were polled at theaters in NYC about Batman Vs Superman and Man Of Steel among other questions.

It's interesting because this is the general public, and this is who WB/DC is targeting.

http://www.gotham-news.com/news/2013/07 ... nouncement

I like the stats for Questions #5 and #8. Who was the fool at CBR who called WW a "second tier" character? Was that p-head, again?

[YoungJRNY]

I thought this was very interesting and relevant. 1,000 movie goers were polled at theaters in NYC about Batman Vs Superman and Man Of Steel among other questions.

It's interesting because this is the general public, and this is who WB/DC is targeting.

http://www.gotham-news.com/news/2013/07 ... nouncement

I like the stats for Questions #5 and #8. Who was the fool at CBR who called WW a "second tier" character? Was that p-head, again?

There could only be one diarrhea of a human being who would be retarded enough to label WW as "second tier" and that piece of excrement could be none other, than planetman.