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Boston's New Album

Postby FamilyMan » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:26 am

Geez, Tom, it's about time.
It's astonishing how much time is wasted in between recorded efforts with this band. Then when you get one, it's a hodgepodge of tracks with singers from 5 different eras? Boston has no identity anymore. It's sad. Rest in peace, Brad.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby AR » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:32 am

FUCK THAT BAND. Nice Halloween costume DeCarlo. Rot in hell.

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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby scarab » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:34 am

Why is he singing lead and even worse Dahme?
Her song was terrible on the last one.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby FamilyMan » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:48 am

Oh and by the way... Did we see the track listing? Two songs are re-records from other sucky albums. After ten years, the material's not even original. Shameful.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby JohnH » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:14 am

It's worse than that . 8 new songs and three are off Corp America. Glad I'm a fan of other bands that aren't so whacked as Tom. He keeps suing everyone every month too . Loved Decarlos vocals , but he's become the creep of the week with that Delp clone look. Maybe he can do shows with Hugo in the future, the Creeps Duo. Not sure what gets into these guy's heads, it happened to Ian Astbury too, he started taking on Jim's looks . It still wasn't as bad as DeCarlo. Look forward to the 8 new songs anyway .
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby Rick » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:29 am

There was nothing like Boston when they hit the scene in the 70's. They knocked us all on our collective asses. I loved their music practically from the first note. The first two albums were absolutely amazing. Then, Third Stage. Good, but cheesy. Some great tracks, but the whole space theme kinda got to be a bit too much. Then Walk On. No Delp. I do like some songs on it, but it's NOT Delp. Was hard to digest. Corporate America........ geesh. I enjoyed a couple of songs where Delp was involved, but the rest were nothing I wanted to play twice. I'll give this next record a listen, but I don't expect much. Hopefully it will blow me on my ass and I'll be wrong, but I most seriously doubt it. And you're right, JohnH, this bands fall has been solely on Scholz, I think. It's rise could surely be credited to him also, though.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby brywool » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:24 am

Why the DeCarlo hate? From what I heard, he did really well. Certainly fit them better than Michael Sweet. Having said that, he needs to ditch the "Brad look" that he's been sporting and be his own dude. That's the only thing I like about him. What else?
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:04 pm

3 retreads? Ouch.i didn't hate corp America by any means (it's on par with generations for me - some really good tracks mixed in with some preposterous stinkers), but one iteration of those songs was enough!
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby verslibre » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:07 pm

Fact Finder wrote:I would call Boston a one album wonder. That first disc was ok but after that nothing special. Total media creation with very little follow up work.


Word. I've no idea how or why these guys (or guy, really) continue to get any form of attention. Five chord snoozerama!
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:03 pm

This album sounds horrible. 8 new tracks after all this time? That's it? Prolly the biggest melodic rock disappointment since Journey's Generations. Anyone get Starship's new cd? Lacks big anthem hooks, but Mickey still sounds like a million bucks.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby marco17 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:53 am

AR wrote:FUCK THAT BAND. Nice Halloween costume DeCarlo. Rot in hell.

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The scary thing is that knowing TS he's probably forcing him to look the part if he wants to keep collecting a paycheck. And, I am sure he's getting paid better than he was at Home Depot. It is creepy as hell, but he looked like a chump next to Michael Sweet a couple years back when he really just looked like some guy who walked on stage from the audience in Dockers and a polo shirt... :twisted:
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby No Surprize » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:06 am

Rick wrote:There was nothing like Boston when they hit the scene in the 70's. They knocked us all on our collective asses. I loved their music practically from the first note. The first two albums were absolutely amazing. Then, Third Stage. Good, but cheesy. Some great tracks, but the whole space theme kinda got to be a bit too much. Then Walk On. No Delp. I do like some songs on it, but it's NOT Delp. Was hard to digest. Corporate America........ geesh. I enjoyed a couple of songs where Delp was involved, but the rest were nothing I wanted to play twice. I'll give this next record a listen, but I don't expect much. Hopefully it will blow me on my ass and I'll be wrong, but I most seriously doubt it. And you're right, JohnH, this bands fall has been solely on Scholz, I think. It's rise could surely be credited to him also, though.


Couldn't have said it better myself Pryor. Douse myself with gasoline and shit you summed it up perfectly. When I first heard "More than a feeling" I was like whoa, that was fucking awesome and to this day it's one of my Top ten tunes of all time. I never get tired of hearing it, "I close my eyes and she slips awayyyyyy", classic. :D
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby FamilyMan » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:34 am

Don't Look Back is also a phenomenal follow-up album... which I heard T.S. fought hard against releasing because he claimed it wasn't finished. If Epic hadn't insisted they deliver, we'd probably still be waiting for it. Steve Perry and Sholtz should start a band together........ :roll:
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby Rick » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:21 am

No Surprize wrote:
Rick wrote:There was nothing like Boston when they hit the scene in the 70's. They knocked us all on our collective asses. I loved their music practically from the first note. The first two albums were absolutely amazing. Then, Third Stage. Good, but cheesy. Some great tracks, but the whole space theme kinda got to be a bit too much. Then Walk On. No Delp. I do like some songs on it, but it's NOT Delp. Was hard to digest. Corporate America........ geesh. I enjoyed a couple of songs where Delp was involved, but the rest were nothing I wanted to play twice. I'll give this next record a listen, but I don't expect much. Hopefully it will blow me on my ass and I'll be wrong, but I most seriously doubt it. And you're right, JohnH, this bands fall has been solely on Scholz, I think. It's rise could surely be credited to him also, though.


Couldn't have said it better myself Pryor. Douse myself with gasoline and shit you summed it up perfectly. When I first heard "More than a feeling" I was like whoa, that was fucking awesome and to this day it's one of my Top ten tunes of all time. I never get tired of hearing it, "I close my eyes and she slips awayyyyyy", classic. :D


Brad Delp's incredible voice and Tom Scholz's equally incredible guitar sound hit the music scene at the best time it could have. I will always believe that we were lucky enough to have lived through the greatest time in music that there ever was. I'm sure our parents and kids think the same thing, but they're wrong. lol
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby RPM » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:15 pm

Rick wrote:There was nothing like Boston when they hit the scene in the 70's. They knocked us all on our collective asses. I loved their music practically from the first note. The first two albums were absolutely amazing. Then, Third Stage. Good, but cheesy. Some great tracks, but the whole space theme kinda got to be a bit too much. Then Walk On. No Delp. I do like some songs on it, but it's NOT Delp. Was hard to digest. Corporate America........ geesh. I enjoyed a couple of songs where Delp was involved, but the rest were nothing I wanted to play twice. I'll give this next record a listen, but I don't expect much. Hopefully it will blow me on my ass and I'll be wrong, but I most seriously doubt it. And you're right, JohnH, this bands fall has been solely on Scholz, I think. It's rise could surely be credited to him also, though.


Great post Rick. Scholz/Delp combo was rivaled only by Schon/Perry IMHO ...Walk On was pretty Damn good, but as you said , no Delp. C.A. was a mess. The production on "I had A Good Time" was shameful, hoping for at least one good sounding track with Brad.....
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:31 am

From what I've been aware of, issues such as this is nothing new with Boston. I remember when the Third Stage album came out and I sort of liked some of the songs on it, there was some good melodies I thought. Shortly after I was reading stuff like the record company wasn't happy because it took too long for them to put out that album or it was too long between the last album and that one. Wasn't that also a long time like ten years from the time they put out one album to the time Third Stage came out? I vaguely remember something to that effect. On top of that, I also read somewhere back then shortly after Third Stage was released that the record company had issues with most of the drum tracks in most of the songs on that album were done via programmable drum machine, not even a real drummer. Seems like this band has had these type of issues for a long time, from the 80's until now.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby JohnH » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:16 pm

Clips here. Really hard to tell if I would like it just from 45 seconds . I don't think this is going to be the return of the first album by any stretch. If Brad is only on two new songs are the others that sound like him just David and Tommy copying him? (Not talking about the three old songs).

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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby FamilyMan » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:06 am

"Hotly Anticipated" is a bit of a stretch, if that's your writing there, Drew. :o
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby RPM » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:41 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:From what I've been aware of, issues such as this is nothing new with Boston. I remember when the Third Stage album came out and I sort of liked some of the songs on it, there was some good melodies I thought. Shortly after I was reading stuff like the record company wasn't happy because it took too long for them to put out that album or it was too long between the last album and that one. Wasn't that also a long time like ten years from the time they put out one album to the time Third Stage came out? I vaguely remember something to that effect. On top of that, I also read somewhere back then shortly after Third Stage was released that the record company had issues with most of the drum tracks in most of the songs on that album were done via programmable drum machine, not even a real drummer. Seems like this band has had these type of issues for a long time, from the 80's until now.


There was a lawsuit that was preventing them from recording and releasing Third Stage.
In late 1979, Scholz began writing new material, but Boston's former co-manager, Paul Ahern, argued that, according to an agreement Scholz had signed years earlier with Ahern, Ahern owned a percentage of all songs Scholz wrote from that point on.[18] Delayed further by the dispute, Scholz suggested that in the meantime the individual members should work on whatever other projects they might be considering. Goudreau then decided to record a solo album that featured Boston members Delp and Hashian, and which was recorded with the help of Paul Grupp,[19] an engineer and producer familiar with Scholz's studio techniques.[13] The album, released in 1980, was titled Barry Goudreau and featured the minor hit single "Dreams". There was tension when CBS's marketing connected Goudreau's solo album to Boston's signature guitar sound, despite Scholz not having played at all on this album.[16][20] Scholz objected to the ad copy, but it became irrelevant when Epic dropped promotion on Goudreau's album citing lack of interest. Goudreau left the band in 1981 and formed Orion the Hunter. Delp contributed vocals and co-wrote songs on the debut album, but returned to Boston and recorded vocals on the third Boston album.[13]

While Scholz and Delp were recording new material for the third Boston album, CBS filed a $60 million lawsuit against Scholz, alleging breach of contract for failing to deliver a new Boston album on time.[13]

During this same period, Scholz founded his successful high-tech company Scholz Research & Development (SR&D), which made amplifiers and other musical electronic equipment. Its most famous product, the Rockman amplifier, was introduced in 1982.[21]

The legal trouble slowed progress toward the completion of the next album, which took six years to record and produce. Joining Scholz in the album's development again were Delp and Jim Masdea.[22] In 1985, guitarist Gary Pihl left Sammy Hagar's touring band to work with Scholz as both a musician and an SR&D executive. As CBS v. Scholz played out in court, CBS opted to withhold royalty payments to Scholz, hoping to force him to settle on unfavorable terms.The lawsuit's first round was eventually decided in Scholz's favor, and Scholz moved the band to MCA Records.[13]
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby StoneCold » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:22 pm

JohnH wrote:Clips here. Really hard to tell if I would like it just from 45 seconds . I don't think this is going to be the return of the first album by any stretch. If Brad is only on two new songs are the others that sound like him just David and Tommy copying him? (Not talking about the three old songs).

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Love-Hope-Bo ... B00G2KV92U

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Heard it through the day you linked it. Two songs sounded ok, I guess it was the Delp ones?
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby JohnH » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:52 pm

Im getting a very bad feeling about this. Ill have to get into the album when I get it, but those clips didn't excite me. It's official Brad is on a grand total of ONE NEW SONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sail Away) . The other ones, as I expected are Tommy and David just clone vocaling Brad. Sounded like more drum machines too.



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“Heaven on Earth” – Doesn’t happen very often; hang on to it if you find it.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Instruments: Tom Scholz
Lead Vocals: David Victor with special guest: Louis St. August
Harmony & Backing Vox: Tom Scholz

“Didn’t Mean to Fall in Love” – As they say, love happens when you least expect it. This was remastered from the original 2002 recording; released again here because I just really like this song.

Written by Tom Scholz, Curly Smith, Janet Minto
All Instruments: Tom Scholz
Lead Vocals: Brad Delp
Harmony & Backing Vox: Tom Scholz

“Last Day of School” – This instrumental was performed publicly for the first time on the huge pipe organ at Boston’s Symphony Hall for MIT’s 150th anniversary celebration, with the Boston Pops.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Instruments: Tom Scholz

“Sail Away” – A retrospective of Katrina and the devastation endured by the poor, swept under the rug by the rich. Sail away to a better place.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Instruments: Tom Scholz
Lead Vocals: Brad Delp, Kimberley Dahme
Harmony Vox: Brad Delp, Kimberley Dahme, Tom Scholz

“Life, Love, and Hope” – Sometimes it takes a traumatic event to make us realize what’s really important.

Written by Tom Scholz
Drums, Bass, Organ, Rhythm Guitars: Tom Scholz
Lead guitars: Tom Scholz, Gary Phil
Lead Vocals: Tommy Decarlo
Harmony Vox: Tom Scholz, Jeff Neal

“If You Were in Love” – We’ve all been there and we can all dream.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Instruments: Tom Scholz
All Vocals: Kimberley Dahme

“Someday” – A shout out to all those who stand up to bullying; malicious people make life worse for everyone.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Guitars, Keyboards, Bass, Drums: Tom Scholz
Harmonica: Curly Smith
Lead Vocals: Tommy Decarlo, Tom Scholz with special guest: Jude Nejmanowski
Harmony Vox: Tom Scholz

“Love Got Away” – A story from personal experience. I had to sing this one myself.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Instruments: Tom Scholz
Lead Vocals: Tom Scholz
Harmony Vox: Tom Scholz, Gary Pihl

“You Gave Up on Love (2.0)” – It’s too precious, don’t do it. This is a new arrangement and a rerecording of the song originally released on Corporate America.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Guitars, keys, bass, and drums: Tom Scholz
Flute: Kimberley Dahme
Lead Vocals: Kimberley Dahme, Tommy Decarlo, Tom Scholz
Harmony Vox: Kimberley Dahme, Tom Scholz, Beth Cohen

“Someone (2.0)” – The song is “Someone,” but most everyone who’s been in love can relate to this song, a version of which was first heard on Corporate America in 2002. This was my chance to release an arrangement more like my original concept, which somehow got lost the first time around. Now I can sleep tonight.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Instruments: Tom Scholz
Lead Vocals: Brad Delp
Harmony Vox: Brad Delp, Tom Scholz

“The Way You Look Tonight” – To my wife Kim, a very good ending after letting love get away.

Written by Tom Scholz
All Instruments: Tom Scholz
Lead Vocals: Tommy Decarlo
Harmony Vox: Tom Scholz, David Victor

Produced, Arranged, and Engineered by Tom Scholz
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby conversationpc » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:04 am

Rick wrote:Then, Third Stage. Good, but cheesy. Some great tracks, but the whole space theme kinda got to be a bit too much.


"Third Stage" is better than "Don't Look Back" overall. Not a weak track on the album, in my opinion. Whereas both "Party" and "Feelin' Satisfied" are both the standard party and rock and roll can save your life tunes.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby tater1977 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:01 am

New Boston Single Heaven on Earth

http://youtu.be/cNohrOGBI5E
Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby RPM » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:01 pm

tater1977 wrote:New Boston Single Heaven on Earth

http://youtu.be/cNohrOGBI5E


Sad. Embarrassing . Tom keeps sinking the Boston ship to new depths of horribleness.

Thank God he was forced to have John Boylan co produce the first album, where we have real drums
And properly mixed vocals. (Yeah I know Tom did most of the final tracks in his basement but John did a lot
More than people realize) now we get cheap Brad look a like sound somewhat alike with crappy drums
Songs and production. I was counting the days when Third stage was available , and it's pretty damn good.
Glad I wasn't waiting the Ten years it took for this. Maybe the one with Brad will be good.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby tater1977 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:08 pm

Boston- More than A Feeling

http://youtu.be/SSR6ZzjDZ94


Now thats the BOSTON I remember, growing up with.. :D
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby StoneCold » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:29 pm

tater1977 wrote:Boston- More than A Feeling

http://youtu.be/SSR6ZzjDZ94


Now thats the BOSTON I remember, growing up with.. :D



1982 - working as a dishwasher at a big truck stop diner.

We had a great rock station that played "classic" before it was. They did full album night once a week.

So I've got a boombox cranked while working and Boston's first album gets played. Later that night one of the servers told me a bunch of bikers were talking about how great the music was there and hung out to listen to the whole thing before leaving.

I admit I had it up loud. 8)
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby tater1977 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:14 pm

StoneCold wrote:
tater1977 wrote:Boston- More than A Feeling

http://youtu.be/SSR6ZzjDZ94


Now thats the BOSTON I remember, growing up with.. :D



1982 - working as a dishwasher at a big truck stop diner.

We had a great rock station that played "classic" before it was. They did full album night once a week.

So I've got a boombox cranked while working and Boston's first album gets played. Later that night one of the servers told me a bunch of bikers were talking about how great the music was there and hung out to listen to the whole thing before leaving.

I admit I had it up loud. 8)


I can remember 'borrowing' my older bros Boston 8 track tape and wore it out...then quietly and 'sneakily' :oops: if tthats
a word..put it back in his trunk...
And never said a word... :oops: :lol:
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby JohnH » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:05 pm

It's bad . The drums are so bloody awful it's unthinkable. The production is terrible. The attempts to sound as close to Brad's lower mellow range ( to fool unsuspecting listeners ?!!) is criminal . This makes Corporate America, which I actually liked , look like Sgt Peppers or Machine Head. I had thought Tom had sort of lost it last time around , I think he's finished. Suing everything in sight every five seconds has to ruin your creativity . I thought several of these new ones were Brad but it's just the two new guys trying to sound like him.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby Yoda » Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:03 am

How are you guys able to listen to these soundbytes? Amazon pulled the clips off of their site before I could listen to them, and now the video that was posted a couple of posts up has been taken down as well. I know this album is probably going to be sucky, but I'd at least like to listen to what everybody else is hearing.
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Re: Boston's New Album

Postby JohnH » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:16 am

Yes they are now all pulled. Standby I'm sure the song will be up again soon . By the way , how long before new singer David Victor gets sued by Tom for promoting himself as "from Boston"?!!! This is exactly what Barry, Anthony and his dad Fran were sued by Tom for . Which is absurd , what fucking band are they from anyway???

http://platinumrockstars.com/boston-styx-tribute-band/

And the ultimately irony is that David Victor joined Boston after he destroyed a successful La based tribute, Smokin, because he only wanted to play the radio hits and nothing else. ( He's just another radio Boston fan then , and not a true fan. )
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