Jamo talk new album

[Destiny]

https://www.facebook.com/JimiJamisonOff ... ment_reply

[jaxmanjoe]

Um....wow.

[Journey/Survivor]

I'm not on Facebook. What did Jimi say?

[lordreo]

I'm not on Facebook. What did Jimi say?

"Getting ready to start a new SURVIVOR cd"

[DavidWT]

Jamo probably wasn't supposed to reveal that, so now FS will get pissed off, fire Jamo, sue him, and then post long rants about "negative energy" and about how the "truth will be revealed in time", etc, etc, and all of this will prevent a new album from ever being recorded.

(am I getting too cynical?)

[Kid Dynamite]

We've all seen this before...

The only positive thing is that it was JJ not FS promising this time.

[kgdjpubs]

well, you have 2 singers in the band. Hopefully, this will actually come to something....

[def]

On Twitter Bickler recently has remarked as well, that he is working on new music with his friend Frankie. Well, I wish he would finish his solo record first, but probably this is put even on a longer hold as they seem to work on a new band record. I do not see a new SURVIVOR album and even if so I am rather pessimistic that it'll be something special.

[Mikele]

So there you go, I prompted this news with my previous message!

If it is REALLY going to be recorded and release, I'm sure it is gonna be something special, no doubts about it.

[Journey/Survivor]

So there you go, I prompted this news with my previous message!

If it is REALLY going to be recorded and release, I'm sure it is gonna be something special, no doubts about it.

I think that it will be good, and well worth having. But....I don't think that it will be as great as the albums from the Peterik years of the band.

[Journey/Survivor]

I'm not on Facebook. What did Jimi say?

"Getting ready to start a new SURVIVOR cd"

Thank you!

[Mikele]

So there you go, I prompted this news with my previous message!

If it is REALLY going to be recorded and release, I'm sure it is gonna be something special, no doubts about it.

I think that it will be good, and well worth having. But....I don't think that it will be as great as the albums from the Peterik years of the band.

I agree, but independently from Peterik...20+ years have their toll on everyone's inspiration. That said, I'm confident they still have it in them, though, and crafting a song is an art. Reach could have been so much better if Jamo was 100% into it

[DavidWT]

Reach could have been so much better if Jamo was 100% into it

That could have made it a bit better, I guess, but the songs were still not up to the caliber of earlier albums. I mean, just for one example, "Home" has to be the weakest closing track they've ever written. It can't even come close to competing with tracks like "Burning Bridges," "Silver Girl," "See You In Everyone," "Can't Let You Go," "Santa Ana Winds," etc, etc.

The production quality is pretty weak, too, which doesn't help. Something about the way that album is recorded literally gives me a minor headache if I listen through headphones.

It's not a terrible album, but it's not up to the quality of what they usually do.
I'm hoping this new one (IF it ever gets made) is better, but I can't say I'm feeling very optimistic.

[Andrew]

Anyone blaming Jamo for the lack of power and quality in REACH needs a serious lesson in Survivor history.

[BARON BLOOD]

I gotta agree with Andrew !......Jamison did a great performance (as always) on REACH but some of the songs were not up to par with what we usually get from SURVIVOR......main reason being that PETERIK wasn't there and he is as important as SULLIVAN for the SURVIVOR sound so........

[RockInDetroit]

I gotta agree with Andrew !......Jamison did a great performance (as always) on REACH but some of the songs were not up to par with what we usually get from SURVIVOR......main reason being that PETERIK wasn't there and he is as important as SULLIVAN for the SURVIVOR sound so........

Guy, seriously who is putting out better music than they did in their prime? Tell me one person or group.

I think Reach was good considering. It had some quality sounds and sounded like Survivor. It did not sound like the band trying reinvent itself. And considering Jamo pretty much quit in the middle of the recording of the cd I think it is really good considering the circumstances.

[Mikele]

Anyone blaming Jamo for the lack of power and quality in REACH needs a serious lesson in Survivor history.

If you are referring to my comment on Jamo's , I was not blaming him in any way. It's just how it is, his performance for one reason or another was below the usual top he's used to deliver. Independently from the circumstances. Still, I enjoy many songs on the record, the songwriting is good...who doesn't enjoy "Give me the word" or "Reach"?

[Idiosyncrasy]

I agree - no Peterik, no Survivor. The production really didn't help the scattering of Peterik co-writes on the last album but even they were light years ahead of the non-Peterik songs. Reach just didn't have the Survivor identity, musically, to me - in fact, the material was all over the place in terms of vibe and quality.

Let's hope Frankie gives Jimi a decent amount of time to record his vocals this time. And Dave, if he's involved (any confirmation on that Andrew?)

Personally, if this was a Peterik/Jamison Crossroads Moment sequel, I'd be wetting myself with delight. I still think that's the best album either have done post-Survivor, including Pride of Lions, Mecca, Empires, Never Too Late, etc. (I can even appreciate When Rock Was King for what it is - a novelty song). I know it's never going happen while Jimi's in Survivor but I hope the two of them are still on good terms. They seemed to have mended the rift completely around the time of Crossroads Moment and it would be shame for them to lose that again.

[kgdjpubs]

I gotta agree with Andrew !......Jamison did a great performance (as always) on REACH but some of the songs were not up to par with what we usually get from SURVIVOR......main reason being that PETERIK wasn't there and he is as important as SULLIVAN for the SURVIVOR sound so........

Guy, seriously who is putting out better music than they did in their prime? Tell me one person or group.

I don't hate Reach by any stretch, but although it started off strongly, it tailed off pretty significantly towards the end. It's not for lack of material either---there are still unreleased songs that are better than a couple that made Reach. The issue is songwriting....and no vocal masterpiece from Jamison is going to save a bad song.

As far as those making good albums still....Jimmy Barnes released his 15th or so solo cd in 2010, and I'd say it might be the 2nd best he has ever done--and as far as the Australian music scene goes, he is a VERY big name and has been around for a long time. His other band Cold Chisel released a 2nd reunion cd (the first in about 15 years) last year, and it was very good also.

On a bit closer to home, the UK rock band Magnum is about 7 cds into the reunion with a new one coming out about every 2 years or so. The last one was very good, and better than some of the cds they released while they were at the peak commercially.

It's not an impossible feat. Even the Peterik/Jamison album was pretty good once you cut it down to a respectable length. I've never heard a 15 song cd that was solid throughout--10 to 12 songs is more than enough. Honestly, if you just released the demos of the live stuff played across the "Bickler version 2" era, you have enough for a good cd that is probably better than Reach--and with very little overlap.

Losing Peterik is a drawback, but to be honest, there isn't that much that he has released since leaving Survivor that would actually fit in on a Survivor album. It sounds like Jim Peterik, but it doesn't really sound like Survivor---parts of the JJ/JP album being a notable exception to this, as long as you allow that the guitar parts would be different if you put Sullivan on there instead.

The key is having 10-12 strong songs to start with. If you don't have that, nothing will save you. Hopefully, if they are really working on a new cd, they have enough really good material to make the effort worthwhile.

[Mikele]

A question would be:
did they eventually tap Ron Nevison as hinted way back by Frankie??

[BARON BLOOD]

Losing Peterik is a drawback, but to be honest, there isn't that much that he has released since leaving Survivor that would actually fit in on a Survivor album. It sounds like Jim Peterik, but it doesn't really sound like Survivor---parts of the JJ/JP album being a notable exception to this, as long as you allow that the guitar parts would be different if you put Sullivan on there instead.

You are totally right !......and I am sure that if you take many songs on CROSSROAD MOMENTS and you ask SULLIVAN to play the guitar parts and solos you would have a great SURVIVOR album !..........NEVER TOO LATE has that SULLIVAN emulation at times but it's NOT SULLIVAN so it's different.......still very good though !
REACH has great songs !.....but you definitely miss PETERIK's involvment in there.....the melodic touch !

[Idiosyncrasy]

Losing Peterik is a drawback, but to be honest, there isn't that much that he has released since leaving Survivor that would actually fit in on a Survivor album. It sounds like Jim Peterik, but it doesn't really sound like Survivor---parts of the JJ/JP album being a notable exception to this, as long as you allow that the guitar parts would be different if you put Sullivan on there instead.

I respectfully have to disagree. To me, all 4 Pride of Lions albums have numerous songs that wouldn't sound at all out of place on a Survivor album, particularly the Vital Signs to When Seconds Count era. Not to mention some of the individual songs he's done with Kelly Keagy, Terry Brock, Two Fires, etc, etc. I admit, Peterik hasn't come out with much material that has the heavier Dave era or Too Hot to Sleep vibe, but he's certainly covered the lighter style from the mid-80s Survivor albums.

[Eyeof]

Canyons from faster than Survivor can record music...

I mean i understand, with the six and a half tour dates they do a year, it's hard to find the time.