With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

[AR]

Glad Perry is out there.

Steve A is too and his voice sounds pretty damn good. (From about a year ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdZsalcTTw

[FamilyMan]

Still sounds like he's struggling to me.

[AR]

Still sounds like he's struggling to me.

Sounds great to me. Compare it to Steve Perry's recent version.

[FamilyMan]

Still sounds like he's struggling to me.

Sounds great to me. Compare it to Steve Perry's recent version.

I think Perry cleans his clock.

[AR]

Still sounds like he's struggling to me.

Sounds great to me. Compare it to Steve Perry's recent version.

I think Perry cleans his clock.

Singing it 2 keys down?

Nope. Augeri is better at this stage. Sorry.

Hope Perry does more, but he needs to stay away from Open Arms.

[brywool]

If he tweaked those guitar parts a bit, that could be a pretty cool arrangement there. He's playing chords where his voice is going where the chords should be different, but his voice part is correct, the guitar part just needs to be tweaked.
However, I don't hear him struggling vocally here. In fact, for him, this a good rendition.
DON'T STOP BELIEVIN'!

[scarab]

sounds really good, does he do a mostly Journey setlist? Anything from his solo or Tall Stories.
Would love to hear him do Kiss me Softly, his best song with Journey.

[Journey2Infinity]

Augeri has always been pitchy. Always. I saw him when Journey first re-launched in 1998. He not only struggled to hit the high notes, he was flat and sharp all over the place. Two of the three subsequent concerts I saw in 2000 and 2002 were horribly worse. The show I saw in 2003 had to have been lipped because he magically sounded pitch-perfect, strong and hit all the highs he could never hit before (and I can tell the difference between he and Deen). I still hear the same thing now from all these clips. He struggles with the highs and his pitch is all over the place. I liked a lot of Journey's studio songs with Augeri but the guy can't pull it off live.

And stop comparing Perry and Augeri. Different ages, different styles, different backgrounds.

[Monker]

sounds really good, does he do a mostly Journey setlist? Anything from his solo or Tall Stories.
Would love to hear him do Kiss me Softly, his best song with Journey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx_Lc3m04tw

[AR]

Augeri has always been pitchy. Always. I saw him when Journey first re-launched in 1998. He not only struggled to hit the high notes, he was flat and sharp all over the place. Two of the three subsequent concerts I saw in 2000 and 2002 were horribly worse. The show I saw in 2003 had to have been lipped because he magically sounded pitch-perfect, strong and hit all the highs he could never hit before (and I can tell the difference between he and Deen). I still hear the same thing now from all these clips. He struggles with the highs and his pitch is all over the place. I liked a lot of Journey's studio songs with Augeri but the guy can't pull it off live.

And stop comparing Perry and Augeri. Different ages, different styles, different backgrounds.

I'll take 2014 Augeri over 2014 Perry. I'll compare them all I want.

That does not negate that I got a kick out of seeing Steve Perry do those two appearances. However the loons abused every singer that was not Steve Perry for many years. Right now Perry is behind every singer that followed him. He's still the man. Don't get me wrong. But he shouldn't be getting a free pass. I think Augeri's version of Open Arms sounds a lot better than what Perry did last week.

[donnaplease]

Augeri has always been pitchy. Always. I saw him when Journey first re-launched in 1998. He not only struggled to hit the high notes, he was flat and sharp all over the place. Two of the three subsequent concerts I saw in 2000 and 2002 were horribly worse. The show I saw in 2003 had to have been lipped because he magically sounded pitch-perfect, strong and hit all the highs he could never hit before (and I can tell the difference between he and Deen). I still hear the same thing now from all these clips. He struggles with the highs and his pitch is all over the place. I liked a lot of Journey's studio songs with Augeri but the guy can't pull it off live.

And stop comparing Perry and Augeri. Different ages, different styles, different backgrounds.

I'll take 2014 Augeri over 2014 Perry. I'll compare them all I want.

That does not negate that I got a kick out of seeing Steve Perry do those two appearances. However the loons abused every singer that was not Steve Perry for many years. Right now Perry is behind every singer that followed him. He's still the man. Don't get me wrong. But he shouldn't be getting a free pass. I think Augeri's version of Open Arms sounds a lot better than what Perry did last week.

Ed, you can have him. I'll stick with my SMFP. Augeri is/was just as much a karaoke singer as Arnel. You did more than your share of trashing SA in '06 and '07 (Shall we go shopping - at the Gap maybe...?). And not ALL of us Loons 'abused every singer that wasn't Perry'. Don't paint us all with that same brush. I love you dearly, but I'm not giving you a pass on this. You trashed SA just as much as anyone else on this board. You felt betrayed by him, and rightfully so. I know how invested you were in the Augeri-era. His actions during tapegate don't get lessened just because Neal proved once and for all what a dick he is when he screwed over Jeff, though.

[ForceInfinity]

Augeri has always been pitchy. Always. I saw him when Journey first re-launched in 1998. He not only struggled to hit the high notes, he was flat and sharp all over the place. Two of the three subsequent concerts I saw in 2000 and 2002 were horribly worse. The show I saw in 2003 had to have been lipped because he magically sounded pitch-perfect, strong and hit all the highs he could never hit before (and I can tell the difference between he and Deen). I still hear the same thing now from all these clips. He struggles with the highs and his pitch is all over the place. I liked a lot of Journey's studio songs with Augeri but the guy can't pull it off live.

And stop comparing Perry and Augeri. Different ages, different styles, different backgrounds.

I'll take 2014 Augeri over 2014 Perry. I'll compare them all I want.

That does not negate that I got a kick out of seeing Steve Perry do those two appearances. However the loons abused every singer that was not Steve Perry for many years. Right now Perry is behind every singer that followed him. He's still the man. Don't get me wrong. But he shouldn't be getting a free pass. I think Augeri's version of Open Arms sounds a lot better than what Perry did last week.

Maybe I'm a little but more nuanced in my views... but I think there are some items where I would take 2014 Perry. I think if SP stuck with ROR/Street Talk/ and perhaps FTLOSM material, or perhaps material that didn't demand so much from the high ranges, he would do just fine. He doesn't have the high end anymore (he is 65 for god's sake), but he does bring that intangible to the song that I'm not sure SA has. I just don't think I'd want to listen to Open Arms or DSB from Perry (that's where AP brings more to the table I think). I like SA back in his Tall Stories days and it was cool seeing him going back to playing the guitar on some of the vids I've seen him in. I liked Wild on the Run, Chains of Love, Stay With me and Restless Ones from that album. He came off rather well on Arrival and I personally liked FITH from the Generations album (I'm from the midwest, so that song speaks to me)

[The_Noble_Cause]

Augeri has a little more of his higher end left. Perry remains the master of control and emotive delivery. Of all the one-time Journey singers, Kevin Chalfant sounds the best - mostly because no band will give him a job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3TxU16O7vE

[Monker]

Ed, you can have him. I'll stick with my SMFP. Augeri is/was just as much a karaoke singer as Arnel. You did more than your share of trashing SA in '06 and '07 (Shall we go shopping - at the Gap maybe...?). And not ALL of us Loons 'abused every singer that wasn't Perry'. Don't paint us all with that same brush. I love you dearly, but I'm not giving you a pass on this. You trashed SA just as much as anyone else on this board. You felt betrayed by him, and rightfully so. I know how invested you were in the Augeri-era. His actions during tapegate don't get lessened just because Neal proved once and for all what a dick he is when he screwed over Jeff, though.

First of all, not everyone on this forum was trashing SA. I never did that. i was saying Neal was an ass before it became so popular on this forum to do so. Neal was either the leader of the band, or he wasn't. The quote I repeated, over and over again, "The first rule of leadership: EVERYTHING is your fault." --- Hopper. Don't tell me that he didn't know what was doing on and approved of it, he probably even sanctioned it to get through more tours so he could get more $'s.

Second, Augeri was not on YouTube doing countless covers of other singers. He was in other bands writing and recording his own music both before and after Journey. He is NOT a karaoke singer like Arnel...saying that he was or is a karaoke singer is a flat out lie. You just don't like the fact that he was in Journey singing Journey songs so you throw the karaoke label about as an insult. By that definition, Perry is a karaoke singer for covering Eel and Sam Cooke.

[DracIsBack]

"I think Perry cleans his clock"
"Nope. Augeri is better at this stage. Sorry."

Look at you too, acting as though your 'opinions' are 'facts'

[Monker]

"I think Perry cleans his clock"
"Nope. Augeri is better at this stage. Sorry."

Look at you too, acting as though your 'opinions' are 'facts'

Well, maybe they are facts. How do we know that Perry doesn't go over to Augeri's house once a week to clean his clocks? Or, maybe Augeri fired him because he's better at cleaning clocks then Perry is. It could happen.

[Aaron]

Augeri is bad ass.

[JeremyP]

He's playing chords where his voice is going where the chords should be different, but his voice part is correct,

It takes MAJOR vocal skill/training/talent to do this. Those different chords naturally lead one's voice to a different place than the original arrangement but he's forcing his vocal to stick with the original chords as opposed to the ones he's playing on those parts. It gives it a unique flavor and I like that he's putting this much thought into the arrangements of classic Journey songs now that he's on his own.

He's the man.

Repost from different thread:

This has always been my favorite era of Journey. I love the songs and Steve's voice. He's got a really warm tone that suits Journey material and I appreciate that fact that his phrasing on classic Journey songs was more like the record as opposed to Perry and by extension, JSS, who would alter the melodies and phrasing frequently.

[donnaplease]

Ed, you can have him. I'll stick with my SMFP. Augeri is/was just as much a karaoke singer as Arnel. You did more than your share of trashing SA in '06 and '07 (Shall we go shopping - at the Gap maybe...?). And not ALL of us Loons 'abused every singer that wasn't Perry'. Don't paint us all with that same brush. I love you dearly, but I'm not giving you a pass on this. You trashed SA just as much as anyone else on this board. You felt betrayed by him, and rightfully so. I know how invested you were in the Augeri-era. His actions during tapegate don't get lessened just because Neal proved once and for all what a dick he is when he screwed over Jeff, though.

First of all, not everyone on this forum was trashing SA. I never did that. i was saying Neal was an ass before it became so popular on this forum to do so. Neal was either the leader of the band, or he wasn't. The quote I repeated, over and over again, "The first rule of leadership: EVERYTHING is your fault." --- Hopper. Don't tell me that he didn't know what was doing on and approved of it, he probably even sanctioned it to get through more tours so he could get more $'s.

Second, Augeri was not on YouTube doing countless covers of other singers. He was in other bands writing and recording his own music both before and after Journey. He is NOT a karaoke singer like Arnel...saying that he was or is a karaoke singer is a flat out lie. You just don't like the fact that he was in Journey singing Journey songs so you throw the karaoke label about as an insult. By that definition, Perry is a karaoke singer for covering Eel and Sam Cooke.

I guess you missed the part of my post that starts with "Ed,.....". Unless you really are Ed...

[Monker]

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I guess you missed the part of my post that starts with "Ed,.....". Unless you really are Ed...

No, I didn't. But, you must have missed the fact that you were replying on a public forum instead of Email.

The bottom line is you made some fairly generic statements that are flat out wrong. If I want to comment on it, I will.

Neal didn't become an ass when he fired SA. He became an ass when he pushed Augeri into more and more touring even though he knew his voice was failing and needed rest - and then denied he knew anything about what was going on, and threw Augeri under the bus because he wanted to replace him with JSS.

Insulting Augeri by calling him a karaoke singer is not just an insult, but a flat out lie. You c an't be a karaoke singer when you spend your career singing your own songs or the songs of the band you are a member of.

[donnaplease]

[
I guess you missed the part of my post that starts with "Ed,.....". Unless you really are Ed...

No, I didn't. But, you must have missed the fact that you were replying on a public forum instead of Email.

The bottom line is you made some fairly generic statements that are flat out wrong. If I want to comment on it, I will.

Neal didn't become an ass when he fired SA. He became an ass when he pushed Augeri into more and more touring even though he knew his voice was failing and needed rest - and then denied he knew anything about what was going on, and threw Augeri under the bus because he wanted to replace him with JSS.

Insulting Augeri by calling him a karaoke singer is not just an insult, but a flat out lie. You c an't be a karaoke singer when you spend your career singing your own songs or the songs of the band you are a member of.

Comment all you want, but keep in mind my response was to Ed, not you. You act as if I responded to a post you made, and your feigned outrage at my " lie" is frankly just a little weird. You took my comment to Ed out of context and accused me of being a liar because I compare the tenure of 2 singers who have done the exact same thing in Journey (spending your career mostly singing the songs your predecessor made famous, while simultaneously recording lesser known and successful albums that rarely get heard in live shows).

But tell me this... Do you perceive Arnel as a 'karaoke' singer, but not Augeri? There's really no difference, in the minds of the machine that is Journey, IMO.

Neal became an ass long before either of the things you mention occurred. He just shows his stripes more at some times than others. My original point in this thread is that Ed shouldn't put Augeri back up on a pedestal, especially after all the time and effort spent on this board by a ton of people trashing him for being a 'karaoke singer plucked from the Gap to front Journey'. Furthermore, comparing Augeri's version of "Open Arms" to Perry's only invites the suggestion that Augeri is a karaoke singer with respect to his time in Journey. It's no different than saying Arnel is better than SP on the Journey catalog - utterly ridiculous. I'm actually very glad Augeri is happy and well, and likely will be seeing an Augeri show sometime later this summer. I'll be sure to share your concerns about my comments if we get a chance to chat. I'll bet he appreciates your fervor on his behalf.


http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/ ... 132569.php

[MCC620]

[
I guess you missed the part of my post that starts with "Ed,.....". Unless you really are Ed...

No, I didn't. But, you must have missed the fact that you were replying on a public forum instead of Email.

The bottom line is you made some fairly generic statements that are flat out wrong. If I want to comment on it, I will.

Neal didn't become an ass when he fired SA. He became an ass when he pushed Augeri into more and more touring even though he knew his voice was failing and needed rest - and then denied he knew anything about what was going on, and threw Augeri under the bus because he wanted to replace him with JSS.

Insulting Augeri by calling him a karaoke singer is not just an insult, but a flat out lie. You c an't be a karaoke singer when you spend your career singing your own songs or the songs of the band you are a member of.

Comment all you want, but keep in mind my response was to Ed, not you. You act as if I responded to a post you made, and your feigned outrage at my " lie" is frankly just a little weird. You took my comment to Ed out of context and accused me of being a liar because I compare the tenure of 2 singers who have done the exact same thing in Journey (spending your career mostly singing the songs your predecessor made famous, while simultaneously recording lesser known and successful albums that rarely get heard in live shows).

But tell me this... Do you perceive Arnel as a 'karaoke' singer, but not Augeri? There's really no difference, in the minds of the machine that is Journey, IMO.

Neal became an ass long before either of the things you mention occurred. He just shows his stripes more at some times than others. My original point in this thread is that Ed shouldn't put Augeri back up on a pedestal, especially after all the time and effort spent on this board by a ton of people trashing him for being a 'karaoke singer plucked from the Gap to front Journey'. Furthermore, comparing Augeri's version of "Open Arms" to Perry's only invites the suggestion that Augeri is a karaoke singer with respect to his time in Journey. It's no different than saying Arnel is better than SP on the Journey catalog - utterly ridiculous. I'm actually very glad Augeri is happy and well, and likely will be seeing an Augeri show sometime later this summer. I'll be sure to share your concerns about my comments if we get a chance to chat. I'll bet he appreciates your fervor on his behalf.


http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/ ... 132569.php

I notice you didn't include JSS in your comparisons, because if you do, by your thinking, he was just another karaoke singer as well, considering he performed Journey songs on his solo tour well before being in the band. We all know that isn't true though, Augeri and JSS were chosen to start the band over so to speak. Clearly the only karaoke singer is Arnel in terms of his history before entering the band and his reason for being chosen, "legacy sound". As far as Ed putting Augeri on a pedestal, many have back-peddled on their opinion of him. It's as amusing to see as the wildfire set off by Perry singing again.

[donnaplease]

I notice you didn't include JSS in your comparisons, because if you do, by your thinking, he was just another karaoke singer as well, considering he performed Journey songs on his solo tour well before being in the band. We all know that isn't true though, Augeri and JSS were chosen to start the band over so to speak. Clearly the only karaoke singer is Arnel in terms of his history before entering the band and his reason for being chosen, "legacy sound". As far as Ed putting Augeri on a pedestal, many have back-peddled on their opinion of him. It's as amusing to see as the wildfire set off by Perry singing again.

Well... Jeff was never referred to as " Perry with a perm" but I do agree that as I recall there was more of an effort to start over with SA than with Arnel. I honestly have no idea what the thinking was behind Jeff's tenure. Now it seems like it was just to get them through the '06 tour, but that doesn't really jive with them actually making him an official member, short as it may have been.

[Aaron]

Naw, I do not believe this to be correct. Augeri came out of a band Tall Stories that was a pretty good band. Arnel came out of a cover band that did 0 originals. Augeri's band did original music. That is the difference IMHO. Augeri is a good dude and has WAY more finese the Arnel. Arnel had a bit more power back in the late 00's but I lost track when they went a half step down and started suckin arse.

Augeri has always been pitchy. Always. I saw him when Journey first re-launched in 1998. He not only struggled to hit the high notes, he was flat and sharp all over the place. Two of the three subsequent concerts I saw in 2000 and 2002 were horribly worse. The show I saw in 2003 had to have been lipped because he magically sounded pitch-perfect, strong and hit all the highs he could never hit before (and I can tell the difference between he and Deen). I still hear the same thing now from all these clips. He struggles with the highs and his pitch is all over the place. I liked a lot of Journey's studio songs with Augeri but the guy can't pull it off live.

And stop comparing Perry and Augeri. Different ages, different styles, different backgrounds.

I'll take 2014 Augeri over 2014 Perry. I'll compare them all I want.

That does not negate that I got a kick out of seeing Steve Perry do those two appearances. However the loons abused every singer that was not Steve Perry for many years. Right now Perry is behind every singer that followed him. He's still the man. Don't get me wrong. But he shouldn't be getting a free pass. I think Augeri's version of Open Arms sounds a lot better than what Perry did last week.

Ed, you can have him. I'll stick with my SMFP. Augeri is/was just as much a karaoke singer as Arnel. You did more than your share of trashing SA in '06 and '07 (Shall we go shopping - at the Gap maybe...?). And not ALL of us Loons 'abused every singer that wasn't Perry'. Don't paint us all with that same brush. I love you dearly, but I'm not giving you a pass on this. You trashed SA just as much as anyone else on this board. You felt betrayed by him, and rightfully so. I know how invested you were in the Augeri-era. His actions during tapegate don't get lessened just because Neal proved once and for all what a dick he is when he screwed over Jeff, though.

[donnaplease]

Naw, I do not believe this to be correct. Augeri came out of a band Tall Stories that was a pretty good band. Arnel came out of a cover band that did 0 originals. Augeri's band did original music. That is the difference IMHO. Augeri is a good dude and has WAY more finese the Arnel. Arnel had a bit more power back in the late 00's but I lost track when they went a half step down and started suckin arse.

It seems that either there's a ton of sympathy for SA these days, or I didn't articulate my thoughts very well (maybe a combination of the 2). My point to Ed was not to compare SA singing OA to SP, because it was not and never will be Augeri's song. He, as well as EVERYONE after him, are singing songs made famous by SP, thus the karaoke reference. This is not the first time this reference has been made, and a ton of other people have made it. It really doesn't matter what either SA or Arnel was doing before they joined the group. I guess I'm less likely to think of JSS in that way because he could never be 'confused' for SP during his time with the band - which is a big part of why I liked him so much. I'm not sure how you guys feel about Adam Lambert singing with Queen, but if someone came on here saying he was a better singer on classic Queen songs than Freddy Mercury, I'm sure there would be quite a heated debate to commence.

Again, as much as it may seem otherwise, it really wasn't a slam on Augeri. More of a calling out Ed, and he's my friend so I'm allowed - it's in the Annex bill of rights. I agree that Augeri seems like a good dude and also about his finesse. But I can't totally give him a pass for his participation in Tapegate. I never laid it solely at his feet, but he does bear some responsibility. And frankly, IMHO had Neal & Co not screwed JSS the way they had SA would still be perceived as a demon by many on this board and elsewhere.

[AR]

I just don't think Perry was all that great. Better in DC though and better on the Eels song than the tuned down Open Arms (where Augeri was WAY better) or LTS - which is the worst Journey song ever.

Perry performing again though was cool.

People on this board acted like Steve Perry was God. He's not. He can suck and he did. That said I like that he sang.

Who is Donna? PLEASE!

[Gideon]

People on this board acted like Steve Perry was God. He's not.

+1

That worldview is creepy as hell.

[Monker]

But tell me this... Do you perceive Arnel as a 'karaoke' singer, but not Augeri? There's really no difference, in the minds of the machine that is Journey, IMO.

I simply do not believe that to be true. The expressed reason for hiring Augeri was because Neal had heard him on the radio a few years earlier and thought Tall Stories sounded like a rockier version of Journey. That is is the direction Neal wanted to go with Augeri and that is why he was hired. They hired Arnel for the expressed reason to return to the legacy sound - a vocalist that sounded as close to Perry as possible. Keep in mind that that if Journey wanted to hire a karaoke singer back when they were looking to originally replace Perry, they would have hired Hugo - he was the OBVIOUS choice back then, if that is what they were looking for.

Neal became an ass long before either of the things you mention occurred.

That is probably true to Perry fans and those who were involved in the original creation of Journey's website.

My point in mentioning that is I was the only one at that time who was on this forum pointing my finger directly at Neal...and NOT laying so much of the blame on Augeri. It was obvious to me what was going on. The firing of JSS opened people's eyes to the real motive ($'s) of what was driving Journey at that time....and probably still.

My original point in this thread is that Ed shouldn't put Augeri back up on a pedestal, especially after all the time and effort spent on this board by a ton of people trashing him for being a 'karaoke singer plucked from the Gap to front Journey'.

People should have the freedom to change. I don't go about trashing Perry nearly like I once did. It's good that he's out there singing, and doing whatever makes him happy.

Furthermore, comparing Augeri's version of "Open Arms" to Perry's only invites the suggestion that Augeri is a karaoke singer with respect to his time in Journey. It's no different than saying Arnel is better than SP on the Journey catalog - utterly ridiculous. I'm actually very glad Augeri is happy and well, and likely will be seeing an Augeri show sometime later this summer. I'll be sure to share your concerns about my comments if we get a chance to chat. I'll bet he appreciates your fervor on his behalf.

Go ahead...he knows who I am. When I added him to Facebook a few years ago, he msg'd me and told me he remembered me from the old BT forums and thanked me for always having nice things to say about him. I never msg'd him back only because I like to stay far enough away because I get so far "involved" in these arguments that it seems best to keep my distance.....as i believe Deano found out with Neal, in the end.

[Monker]

I notice you didn't include JSS in your comparisons, because if you do, by your thinking, he was just another karaoke singer as well, considering he performed Journey songs on his solo tour well before being in the band. We all know that isn't true though, Augeri and JSS were chosen to start the band over so to speak. Clearly the only karaoke singer is Arnel in terms of his history before entering the band and his reason for being chosen, "legacy sound". As far as Ed putting Augeri on a pedestal, many have back-peddled on their opinion of him. It's as amusing to see as the wildfire set off by Perry singing again.

Well... Jeff was never referred to as " Perry with a perm" but I do agree that as I recall there was more of an effort to start over with SA than with Arnel. I honestly have no idea what the thinking was behind Jeff's tenure. Now it seems like it was just to get them through the '06 tour, but that doesn't really jive with them actually making him an official member, short as it may have been.

Well, IMO, I think JSS was hired because that's what Neal wanted. He did his album with JSS and wanted to get rid of Augeri and hire JSS. The problem was many of the FANS did not want JSS, and were vocal about it. And, IMO, Wal-Mart wanted to rerecord the GH with the new album and JSS; voice is just too different for that to make sense. So, the fan backlash, JSS posting on this forum and seeming to push Neal's authoritah, and Wal-Mart wanting to rerecord the GH...all of that combined to push JSS out of the band by the end of the tour.

And, BTW, I love both WET albums...awesome music - but it's not Journey.

[Monker]

It seems that either there's a ton of sympathy for SA these days,

I think the problem is there isn't as much animosity towards Augeri these days. You do understand that calling Augeri a karaoke singer is an insult, correct? You may not mean it that way, but it is a passive aggressive insult to a professional singer.

My point to Ed was not to compare SA singing OA to SP, because it was not and never will be Augeri's song. He, as well as EVERYONE after him, are singing songs made famous by SP, thus the karaoke reference.

It's not SP's song either...It's JOURNEY's song. In fact, if it is to be one single person's song, I'd say it is Jonathan's.

Journey performing Journey songs is not karaoke with another singer singing it. They are Journey's songs...therefore, if Augeri is doing karaoke by singing it solo - so is Steve Perry...

And, by your own definition, Steve Perry is doing karaoke by singing Eeel songs with Eel. Therefore, Perry is a karaoke singer.

Do you not see how this becomes a ridiculous argument? They are both professionals...instead of looking for reasons to insult them, why not prop them up for having the courage and abilities to do this at this stage in their career?