With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

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Re: With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

Postby donnaplease » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:59 pm

Monker wrote:
donnaplease wrote:It seems that either there's a ton of sympathy for SA these days,


I think the problem is there isn't as much animosity towards Augeri these days. You do understand that calling Augeri a karaoke singer is an insult, correct? You may not mean it that way, but it is a passive aggressive insult to a professional singer.

My point to Ed was not to compare SA singing OA to SP, because it was not and never will be Augeri's song. He, as well as EVERYONE after him, are singing songs made famous by SP, thus the karaoke reference.


Monker wrote:It's not SP's song either...It's JOURNEY's song. In fact, if it is to be one single person's song, I'd say it is Jonathan's.


You would. But as SP was a co-writer and original vocalist of the song, in the context of this conversation, if it's anyone's, it's Steve Perry's.

Monker wrote:Journey performing Journey songs is not karaoke with another singer singing it. They are Journey's songs...therefore, if Augeri is doing karaoke by singing it solo - so is Steve Perry...


But we're not talking about Journey doing Journey songs, we're talking about SA doing Journey songs - songs that were done by another vocalist before his tenure in the band. Your argument doesn't hold water here with regard to Open Arms. If it were "Higher Place" or another SA-era song, you'd have a valid point. Again, as SP is co-writer and original vocalist, certainly he would have the right to sing OA any time or place.

Monker wrote:And, by your own definition, Steve Perry is doing karaoke by singing Eeel songs with Eel. Therefore, Perry is a karaoke singer.


I'm one of the few that wasn't crazy about that song. I get why he likes it so much though.

Monker wrote:Do you not see how this becomes a ridiculous argument? They are both professionals...instead of looking for reasons to insult them, why not prop them up for having the courage and abilities to do this at this stage in their career?


I do. And for lack of a better term I've attempted to "walk back" my characterization and/or clarify/elaborate on what I'm thinking. I find it interesting how you choose to pick apart my posts and only comment on certain aspects. The bottom line is this: SA is a nice guy who was put in a tough spot on more than one occasion during his time in Journey. First, he had humongous shoes to fill. And he worked his ass off to fill them. He was great when I saw him in '98. But over time he became less great, and resorted to less than honorable means to keep going. He wasn't the only one - but he was a huge part of it. To suggest he's better than the original is IMO ludicrous, it doesn't matter which singer it is, no one is gonna ever be better than the original...to me.
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Re: With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

Postby JeremyP » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:33 pm

Why do these things always degenerate into "my singer can beat up your singer" sandbox fights?

It's obvious what needs to happen and everyone has been putting it off for far too long.

We round up Rolie, Fleischman, Perry, Augeri, Soto, and Pineda ...drive them to a secure location in the desert...and....

CAGE MATCH - No Holds Barred

We'll give out MR i.d. cards so only forum members can attend and Andrew can ref.
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Re: With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

Postby lparn » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:01 pm

Steve perry did sound Alittle rusty yet it was awesome seeing him sing again. Thought the eels song was awesome.
I only saw jss. With them once, so is hard for me to compare or say.
Saw SA. A while back and sound was not so good. Wish Steve perry would make some new music or record that eels song. He is older now, as we all are, voices change. Was still awesome to see.
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Re: With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

Postby Pacfanweb » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:15 am

DracIsBack wrote:"I think Perry cleans his clock"
"Nope. Augeri is better at this stage. Sorry."

Look at you too, acting as though your 'opinions' are 'facts'


One is opinion, the other is stated as fact.


Does Augeri have a higher range now? Sure. Lots of people do. But "higher" doesn't always mean "better".

Listen to Perry do "Only Sixteen". That never gets old. Augeri just sounds like another dude who has a decent voice singing a Journey song. Steve Perry still sounds like Steve MF Perry, 2 octaves lower or not.

And, he's 10 years older than Augeri. That makes a good bit of difference. I'd still rather see Perry sing than Augeri, and no disrespect to Augeri intended at all.
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Re: With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

Postby perryfan61 » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:17 am

Pacfanweb wrote:
DracIsBack wrote:"I think Perry cleans his clock"
"Nope. Augeri is better at this stage. Sorry."

Look at you too, acting as though your 'opinions' are 'facts'


One is opinion, the other is stated as fact.


Does Augeri have a higher range now? Sure. Lots of people do. But "higher" doesn't always mean "better".

Listen to Perry do "Only Sixteen". That never gets old. Augeri just sounds like another dude who has a decent voice singing a Journey song. Steve Perry still sounds like Steve MF Perry, 2 octaves lower or not.

And, he's 10 years older than Augeri. That makes a good bit of difference. I'd still rather see Perry sing than Augeri, and no disrespect to Augeri intended at all.

I certainly agree.... As a friend of mine said, it's not what you have, it's what you do with it.
The injury that we do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance. Steve Perry
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Re: With all the Perry stuff, a little love for Steve A?

Postby Gina3008 » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:54 am

Monker wrote:Do you not see how this becomes a ridiculous argument? They are both professionals...instead of looking for reasons to insult them, why not prop them up for having the courage and abilities to do this at this stage in their career?

Monker's quote is from June 2014, but it still holds true and couldn't be said any better. Give each of them their due.
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