Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[The_Noble_Cause]

A RWF post that is refreshing compared to TNC's horseshit.

Anything is refreshing compared to your endless cheerleading for a franchise that had less staying power than the video for "Gangam Style." Like. Nobody. Cares. Dude. Seriously.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Blah blah blah. Quite an incomprehensible word salad. Get a life, dude. I have no idea what Tapegate has to do with any of this. Ancient history. If you don't believe it, too bad. Voicemails on Deano's phone from Neal talking about it would indicate otherwise. And that was long after the whole fiasco was already a public secret.

Far from my point Not even close. You lack comprehension because you like to hear yourself moan and hate. You can't have a civil debate without going off the deep-end.

Nah, I'm pretty sure RedWing and myself have attacked the movie on it's own creative terms. In fact, I was just discussing the climatic neck snap and Kevin Costner's demise.

So innocent. Read your rubbish above. You can't talk about basically anything on its own creative terms. You turn everything into flaming wars when sometimes the conservation has no business to even escalate at that point. You're skilled at being miserable

This is a public message forum, not your bedroom, where globed Kleenex line the floor like landmines in the DMZ. If you can't take criticism, go eat Zack Snyder's hole elsewhere.

Criticism's are awesome if you can just stay sane in between posts. You don't need to be the funny-man and quick-witted tongue expert at all times. We get it. You're an all-pro wise-ass. It's ironic that your carefully placed insults above describe you more than anybody else who ever existed on this forum. Trolling at its finest. I should know better

[YoungJRNYfan]

A RWF post that is refreshing compared to TNC's horseshit.

Anything is refreshing compared to your endless cheerleading for a franchise that had less staying power than the video for "Gangam Style." Like. Nobody. Cares. Dude. Seriously.

There's nobody that cares more about this thread than you, TNC. Seriously. If you don't care, just leave it be, STFU and not even worry about what's happening in here. What's that? Can't help it? Thought so.

[YoungJRNYfan]

[YoungJRNYfan]

[verslibre]

Wait for it. Wait for it...

Either way, you clearly like nothing better than to be bent over a sawhorse, spread wide, and fisted by the spiked biker glove of humanity.

And there it is.

In fact, I was just discussing the climatic neck snap and Kevin Costner's demise.

You didn't "discuss" it. You gave your OPINION (in caps). My response cited Mark Waid's well-known rant. YoungJRNY threw in a full-on quote from the writer of the damned thing. You let it go because, if you can't be right, you don't want to talk about it.

[verslibre]

That level of zealotry described above is achieved in one single post by none other than yourself Coming from somebody that argued countless of years and hours as an expert, all-knowing-ass about chest cavities, vocal technique, vocal registers, range, pitches and falsetto simply by putting his ear up to his mothers computer speakers and using that against the evil inbred's that are Augeri Backtalkers on the Journey website truly is a rich thing. I've facepalmed more times reading your posts as the head of Journey Homeland Security and putting people in place as to how "Send Her My Love" is really supposed to be sang, followed by some disturbing insults along the way. You're way more equipped to break down the famous Herbie Herbert interview in flawless verbatim or act as though each cyber Journey-cumshot you took to the face makes you an expert at Tapegate or Neal Schon's height but no....it's the Batman V Superman thread that is blind idolization

You're bringing that same reputation that made Melodicrock's insanity across the interwebs and applying it to something as simple as a movie thread. You are the epitome of attacking the poster and not the post. It's amusing.

LOL!! Heee-larious, dude!

[Monker]

Why are these people so full of themselves? This whole "neck snap" thing lost its shock value for me what #6 snapped the baby's neck in the BSG intro mini-series, "how fragile". Maybe some DC fans went all haywire, but to the rest of the world - it's NOTHING. Seriously.

What has Zack Snyder done that makes him such a genius? When I looked him up on IMDB, it seems his relevant credits are Suckerpunch, MOS, Watchmen, and 300.

Suckerpunch is something I haven't seen because it seemed so lame. 300 is special effects laden, and except for the scene at Delphi, seems like a movie for middle-aged women to fantasize about. Watchmen was weird and stupid, IMO. And, of course, MOS. MOS, again, IMO is just your average superhero movie...no better or worse than any Marvel has done. The one thing all of these have in common is trying to impress with SFX and not writing. That is a HUGE issue with a movie like this.

You can give all of these names of this "dream team". I have not seen ANY evidence that they are focusing on writing. They are more focused on getting the word out about Wonder Woman being in the film than how the writing is going. Everytime you guys post some gay poster, it's just more evidence that nobody cares about the story...all you care about is getting these two together. Some Wayne building reduced to rubble is more important than the dynamics between Batman and Superman.

All you guys care about is seeing the fighting and destruction and the SFX. Everytime I read something "new" in this thread, that is what it is about. A train wreck also has plenty of destruction.

Oh, and Wonder Woman's costume was on the Wil Wheaton show last week, “Remember Xena? So does Zack Snyder!” Somebody else posted the pic.

Superman killing Zod in MoS was EVERYWHERE and still is. The impact was pretty large. If you think 3 people on a Melodicrock music forum can go 15 some pages with over 2,000 some views on the same topic whether or not the movie was liked or dislike or not, then what do you think it's like elsewhere where actually hundreds of fans have a voice on the actual genre's community websites?

No matter what the discussion may be, you bet your ass Man of Steel is still being talked about with its rounds. It's amazing to see it still being a controversial thing when we're well over a year in. It's not just like this here and v said it best. Love it or hate it, Man of Steel made an impression, regardless while raking in $100,465,693 in Blu-Ray/DVD home video sales. That's a lot of fools

DAVID GOYER: MAN OF STEEL’S SHOCKING ENDING WILL AFFECT BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN

David Goyer says Superman's controversial actions at the end of Man of Steel will likely come into play in the film's sequel.


Goyer, who is also penning the Man of Steel follow-up, recently spoke about the climactic scene in the first film that saw Superman kill General Zod in order to prevent him from taking more innocent lives.


"We were pretty sure that was going to be controversial," Goyer said at the BATFA and BFI Screenwriters' Lecture, according to Digital Spy. "It's not like we were deluding ourselves, and we weren't just doing it to be cool. We felt, in the case of Zod, we wanted to put the character in an impossible situation and make an impossible choice."

Goyer adds that Man of Steel was "in a way Superman Begins" in that the character as we traditionally know him doesn't show up until the final moments of the movie.

"He's not really Superman until the end of the film," the writer continues. "We wanted him to have had that experience of having taken a life and carry that through onto the next films. Because he's Superman and because people idolise him he will have to hold himself to a higher standard."

[verslibre]

Oh, and Wonder Woman's costume was on the Wil Wheaton show last week, “Remember Xena? So does Zack Snyder!” Somebody else posted the pic.

1) Gal's WW pic has a filter on it that mutes the red and blue of her bodice and skirt. There are numerous pix now that accentuate those tones. The outfit looks good and the Xena comparisons are gratuitous. The more traditional WW costume and the new more Greek-styled warrior garb have both been played with for years. The movie threads are a hybrid of both.

'Sides, Xena is inspired more or less by Robert E. Howard's Red Sonja, right?

2) I watched a couple episodes of Wil's show. It reeks of "I wanna be Daniel Tosh for the geeks." He doesn't create content, he recycles it. He's glad he gets any kind of work.

[The_Noble_Cause]

That level of zealotry described above is achieved in one single post by none other than yourself Coming from somebody that argued countless of years and hours as an expert, all-knowing-ass about chest cavities, vocal technique, vocal registers, range, pitches and falsetto simply by putting his ear up to his mothers computer speakers and using that against the evil inbred's that are Augeri Backtalkers on the Journey website truly is a rich thing. I've facepalmed more times reading your posts as the head of Journey Homeland Security and putting people in place as to how "Send Her My Love" is really supposed to be sang, followed by some disturbing insults along the way. You're way more equipped to break down the famous Herbie Herbert interview in flawless verbatim or act as though each cyber Journey-cumshot you took to the face makes you an expert at Tapegate or Neal Schon's height but no....it's the Batman V Superman thread that is blind idolization

You're bringing that same reputation that made Melodicrock's insanity across the interwebs and applying it to something as simple as a movie thread. You are the epitome of attacking the poster and not the post. It's amusing.

LOL!! Heee-larious, dude!

Hardy har har. Make fun of Tapegate and you're making fun of my dead friend, Deano, who put his ass on the line to do the right thing. Which is more than you'll accomplish in your pathetic urinal cake changing lifetime. Deano loved Journey, but he detested corruption far worse. That's the difference between a fan and a follower. I would shut the fuck up, if I were you.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You didn't "discuss" it. You gave your OPINION (in caps). My response cited Mark Waid's well-known rant. YoungJRNY threw in a full-on quote from the writer of the damned thing. You let it go because, if you can't be right, you don't want to talk about it.

Umm, ANY discussion of a movie (or any art or entertainment) is going to involve the exchange of opinions. You're not too bright. Played Superman one too many times as a kid and tried to jump off the roof, I'm guessing. And yea, you posted a screed by some comic guy. As if Mark Waid (who the fuck?) is the voice of the people. As I said, to the general movie going population, a neck snap makes about much difference as running over Zod with a lawnmower.

[verslibre]

Umm, ANY discussion of a movie (or any art or entertainment) is going to involve the exchange of opinions. You're not too bright.

Says the guy who does everything short of calling for the death of a forum poster's loved ones in the politics thread.

Your Chuck E. Cheese tokens are running low. Put another fiver in the slot.

[verslibre]

That level of zealotry described above is achieved in one single post by none other than yourself Coming from somebody that argued countless of years and hours as an expert, all-knowing-ass about chest cavities, vocal technique, vocal registers, range, pitches and falsetto simply by putting his ear up to his mothers computer speakers and using that against the evil inbred's that are Augeri Backtalkers on the Journey website truly is a rich thing. I've facepalmed more times reading your posts as the head of Journey Homeland Security and putting people in place as to how "Send Her My Love" is really supposed to be sang, followed by some disturbing insults along the way. You're way more equipped to break down the famous Herbie Herbert interview in flawless verbatim or act as though each cyber Journey-cumshot you took to the face makes you an expert at Tapegate or Neal Schon's height but no....it's the Batman V Superman thread that is blind idolization

You're bringing that same reputation that made Melodicrock's insanity across the interwebs and applying it to something as simple as a movie thread. You are the epitome of attacking the poster and not the post. It's amusing.

LOL!! Heee-larious, dude!

Hardy har har. Make fun of Tapegate and you're making fun of my dead friend, Deano, who put his ass on the line to do the right thing. Which is more than you'll accomplish in your pathetic urinal cake changing lifetime. Deano loved Journey, but he detested corruption far worse. That's the difference between a fan and a follower. I would shut the fuck up, if I were you.

You need to chill out. He didn't make fun of Deano (RIP). And yes, it was a fuckin' funny post.

[RedWingFan]

Either way, you clearly like nothing better than to be bent over a sawhorse, spread wide, and fisted by the spiked biker glove of humanity.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Says the guy who does everything short of calling for the death of a forum poster's loved ones in the politics thread.

Your Chuck E. Cheese tokens are running low. Put another fiver in the slot.

What does politics or Tapegate have to do with Superman? Would you like to introduce any other meaningless bullshit into the fray? Desperate.....

[RedWingFan]

As I said, to the general movie going population, a neck snap makes about much difference as running over Zod with a lawnmower.

I never gave the neck snap a second thought. Guess I'm not that big of a Superman fan. I guess it's the same as Spiderman's organic vs. Mechanical webshooters. The general public doesn't care, they just want a great flick. ASM 1 and 2 had mechanical (accurate to the comics) but had shit stories and lazy writing. MOS didn't suck because of Zod's cervical weakness.

[verslibre]

What does politics or Tapegate have to do with Superman?

What, besides zealotry? You drew that line.

[kgdjpubs]

What has Zack Snyder done that makes him such a genius? When I looked him up on IMDB, it seems his relevant credits are Suckerpunch, MOS, Watchmen, and 300.

Suckerpunch is something I haven't seen because it seemed so lame. 300 is special effects laden, and except for the scene at Delphi, seems like a movie for middle-aged women to fantasize about. Watchmen was weird and stupid, IMO. And, of course, MOS. MOS, again, IMO is just your average superhero movie...no better or worse than any Marvel has done. The one thing all of these have in common is trying to impress with SFX and not writing. That is a HUGE issue with a movie like this.

You can give all of these names of this "dream team". I have not seen ANY evidence that they are focusing on writing. They are more focused on getting the word out about Wonder Woman being in the film than how the writing is going. Everytime you guys post some gay poster, it's just more evidence that nobody cares about the story...all you care about is getting these two together. Some Wayne building reduced to rubble is more important than the dynamics between Batman and Superman.

All you guys care about is seeing the fighting and destruction and the SFX.

I've never figured out the Zack Snyder thing either. I've seen several films and none of them really impressed me all that much. He just seems like a B-grade version of Michael Bay. He's got a good visual style, but any good director of photography can give you a nice looking movie. I've yet to be impressed by any of his films. Obviously, I'm missing something also...

As far as plot goes, the producers aren't dumb enough to let that leak. You release a couple of "cool" images to keep the fanboys happy without really giving anything of substance. Scripting is what makes a good movie. That doesn't necessarily mean that it will be a popular one. Plenty of well-written scripts that turned into very good movies that didn't make much money at all. That said, Batman vs. Superman will make a tremendous amount of money unless they find a way to completely screw it up (a la Batman and Robin). It's like going to an atm and withdrawing money.......but it's also likely going to be heavy-handed, no sense of subtlety whatsoever and forcing dramatic sequences that the characters didn't earn and thinking you are supposed to care about them. Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to be excited at this point. I was on action-overload by the end of Mos, and this is coming from someone who really enjoys John Woo's Hong Kong films, so that has to be saying something. Maybe Zack Snyder will do something to impress me one day, but with each film he releases, that possibility gets more and more remote.

[verslibre]

I've never figured out the Zack Snyder thing either. I've seen several films and none of them really impressed me all that much. He just seems like a B-grade version of Michael Bay. He's got a good visual style, but any good director of photography can give you a nice looking movie. I've yet to be impressed by any of his films. Obviously, I'm missing something also...

That's my issue with Bryan Singer. Until DoFP, I've never thought of him as some great director. Overrated, rather. DoFP looks good and has a good logical flow, but in spite of the tension-building and action, the future scenes didn't work as well as the retro scenes for me. IMO, the best X-movie is First Class, which is directed by Matthew Vaughn. Killer movie that I skipped in the theater because I was "X-ed out." I think his approach rubbed off on DoFP, which he was originally attached to direct.

Batman vs. Superman will make a tremendous amount of money unless they find a way to completely screw it up (a la Batman and Robin). It's like going to an atm and withdrawing money.......but it's also likely going to be heavy-handed, no sense of subtlety whatsoever and forcing dramatic sequences that the characters didn't earn and thinking you are supposed to care about them.

You just described Iron Man 3 for me. A total letdown that still banked a cool billion-plus in a short time. It has more "wtf" moments than any other Disney-Marvel movie, but all the RDJ supporters give the thing a clean pass. Shane Black was a terrible choice for director and he got the gig because, oh, right: he's Jon's and Robert's buddy. He shouldn't have been anywhere near the thing. Watching Killian (Guy Pearce) "breathe" fire was hilarious, yet it wasn't supposed to be. To my bewilderment, a lot of people think Thor: TDW was a vast improvement over the first movie. The entire third act of that thing needed to be wiped and redone.

[The_Noble_Cause]

That's my issue with Bryan Singer. Until DoFP, I've never thought of him as some great director. Overrated, rather. DoFP looks good and has a good logical flow, but in spite of the tension-building and action, the future scenes didn't work as well as the retro scenes for me. IMO, the best X-movie is First Class, which is directed by Matthew Vaughn. Killer movie that I skipped in the theater because I was "X-ed out." I think his approach rubbed off on DoFP, which he was originally attached to direct.

I don't think anyone would disagree that Singer is a very bland director. I think he makes competent films that look like pricier TV movies. He's definitely less frenetic and ADHD than, say, a Snyder or Bay. Speaking of Vaughn just how bad does his new comic movie adaption "Kinsgman: The Secret Service" look? Yikes. Reminds me of Uma Thurman and Sean Connery in The Avengers.

[YoungJRNYfan]

That level of zealotry described above is achieved in one single post by none other than yourself Coming from somebody that argued countless of years and hours as an expert, all-knowing-ass about chest cavities, vocal technique, vocal registers, range, pitches and falsetto simply by putting his ear up to his mothers computer speakers and using that against the evil inbred's that are Augeri Backtalkers on the Journey website truly is a rich thing. I've facepalmed more times reading your posts as the head of Journey Homeland Security and putting people in place as to how "Send Her My Love" is really supposed to be sang, followed by some disturbing insults along the way. You're way more equipped to break down the famous Herbie Herbert interview in flawless verbatim or act as though each cyber Journey-cumshot you took to the face makes you an expert at Tapegate or Neal Schon's height but no....it's the Batman V Superman thread that is blind idolization

You're bringing that same reputation that made Melodicrock's insanity across the interwebs and applying it to something as simple as a movie thread. You are the epitome of attacking the poster and not the post. It's amusing.

LOL!! Heee-larious, dude!

Make fun of Tapegate and you're making fun of my dead friend, Deano

What?!?!? Dude, don't go there. Tapegate had nothing to do with my post and wasn't the main reference to the point. It had everything to do with you making the insane statement about blind idolization and your nonstop personal insults inside the thread of the topic at hand. I just found that funny coming from somebody like yourself who fights endlessly on a website with a reputation to be crazies about an over-the-hill 70's band within a community that at one time, was as dysfunctional as any. THAT was my point, not Tapegate, not anything else.

For the record, Deano was a good man. I've met Deano and I've had very nice conversations with Deano. Sure, he made this place what it was so people like yourself can beat their chest over others, but he had a heart and more often than not, showed it. You're just a straight DICK with no compassion to your counterpart.

For the other record, I was here during Tapegate and as much as I love Augeri, it was painfully obvious what went down and I STILL put delusional people in their place and cringe when they refuse to understand what happened during that area but make no mistake about it, my post above wasn't about Tapgate..AT ALL. It was used to prove a point to show you you're no different around here than the people you constantly make fun of for whatever subject at hand. But anyway, it's still amusing

[The_Noble_Cause]

What?!?!? Dude, don't go there. Tapegate had nothing to do with my post and wasn't the main reference to the point. It had everything to do with you making the insane statement about blind idolization and your nonstop personal insults inside the thread of the topic at hand. I just found that funny coming from somebody like yourself who fights endlessly on a website with a reputation to be crazies about an over-the-hill 70's band within a community that at one time, was as dysfunctional as any. THAT was my point, not Tapegate, not anything else.

For the record, Deano was a good man. I've met Deano and I've had very nice conversations with Deano. Sure, he made this place what it was so people like yourself can beat their chest over others, but he had a heart and more often than not, showed it. You're just a straight DICK with no compassion to your counterpart.

For the other record, I was here during Tapegate and as much as I love Augeri, it was painfully obvious what went down and I STILL put delusional people in their place and cringe when they refuse to understand what happened during that area but make no mistake about it, my post above wasn't about Tapgate..AT ALL. It was used to prove a point to show you you're no different around here than the people you constantly make fun of for whatever subject at hand. But anyway, it's still amusing

Hey man, this is a Journey board on a melodic rock website. I am not going to apologize for being passionate about the genre, or one of its biggest bands. I thought we were all among friends here.

[verslibre]

A quick aerial view of some on-set destruction in BvS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nIA5INaVP04

[YoungJRNYfan]

First look of Affleck's Bruce Wayne on set:

[verslibre]

Who's the sniper who got that pic?

[verslibre]

[Monker]

You know, after seeing "Guardians of the Galaxy" and understanding a bit more of the vision of what Marvel is planning. I'm sorry but BvS and even Justice League seem insignificant. DC's vision is tiny and 'safe' while Marvel is dreaming HUGE and taking chances. Ant-Man seems stupid to me...but really, I'm a lot less skeptical now.

And, Marvel...copying Farscape is such a smart move. Nothing is better than Farscape.

[verslibre]

Nothing is better than Farscape.

Quark is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM4YJ-jNteY

[The_Noble_Cause]

And, Marvel...copying Farscape is such a smart move. Nothing is better than Farscape.

Farscape was great. Some episodes missed the boat, but they tried different things. Battlestar Galactica totally ripped off the Scorpius in Crichton's head idea by having Number Six in Baltar's head. The sad thing is, SciFi channel cancelled Farscape to help free up money for Battlestar. And Battlestar, for the most part, was fucking boring!

[verslibre]

DC's vision is tiny and 'safe'

They're going to make a Shazam movie so I guess it's not all "tiny" nor "safe."