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SF-Dano wrote:Rest In Peace Robin. Thank you for so many smiles and laughs. Sad that such a funny man could suffer such depression.
Arkansas wrote:Ya know, I'm often quick to say that I don't have much sympathy for suicide. I've always felt that suicide is just about the most selfish act in the world - "My life is soooo bad, screw everyone else, I'm outta here!" And although I still think that, I'm really sad about Robin Williams. I mean, I kinda grew up with this guy. From Happy Days and Mork & Mindy on TV, to so much stand-up comedy, and all the movies.
He's always been one of my faves because he was so quick witted. On the Comic Relief shows, he just ran circles around everyone else. If ever I had to choose between reruns of movies or comedy routines, I always turned to Robin Williams. If ever there was an interview on tv or radio, I'd sit there until it was done...and then I'd usually want more.
So I don't know. I've never understood depression. I mean, I think I know how it works. I had a brother who suffered with it...and I think my Dad too in his last year. And I've probably bounced thru the dark side a few times on occasion. But I've never really understood severe deep depression. And in a way, I hope I never do.
RIP, Robin Williams. I pray that you're in a better place now.
later~
Memorex wrote:Arkansas wrote:Ya know, I'm often quick to say that I don't have much sympathy for suicide. I've always felt that suicide is just about the most selfish act in the world - "My life is soooo bad, screw everyone else, I'm outta here!" And although I still think that, I'm really sad about Robin Williams. I mean, I kinda grew up with this guy. From Happy Days and Mork & Mindy on TV, to so much stand-up comedy, and all the movies.
He's always been one of my faves because he was so quick witted. On the Comic Relief shows, he just ran circles around everyone else. If ever I had to choose between reruns of movies or comedy routines, I always turned to Robin Williams. If ever there was an interview on tv or radio, I'd sit there until it was done...and then I'd usually want more.
So I don't know. I've never understood depression. I mean, I think I know how it works. I had a brother who suffered with it...and I think my Dad too in his last year. And I've probably bounced thru the dark side a few times on occasion. But I've never really understood severe deep depression. And in a way, I hope I never do.
RIP, Robin Williams. I pray that you're in a better place now.
later~
You don't have to understand something or experience something to have sympathy, you just have to know it's real. And anyone that still thinks debilitating depression is not real simply has their eyes closed.
When you are in the depths of it, there is not a single thing that can pull you out except maybe the one thing that does - which is different for everyone and unknown until it maybe happens. Taking ones life is an extremely difficult and final decision. That alone tells you that whatever forces are pushing you there, and it is a force, must be beyond overwhelming. Or suicide would not exist. In all people, even the depressed, the will to live is built into our DNA and has kept us alive for all our time. It is not the weak that choose to end their lives, it is the ones suffering from a force that becomes greater than the will to live. The "get over it" attitude of society is childish and inhumane. I am not saying you have that attitude, mind you. Just saying our society does and it's shameful.
Here's a video making the rounds today. I find it pretty on point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHcc7ipGt0
I hate that this happened to Robin Williams and I hate that many people feel this way every day. And I always live in fear because my life has touched these boundaries several times. And when I feel that nasty wave of doom that comes over me, I fear that I will sink to depths I cannot recover from. But I am years past those depths, even if it comes to visit me every so often. Intellectually, I know that if I ever got to that point again, it would be the last time. There would be no coming back. So when a hint of it arrives, I fight like hell. I scramble my brain in every direction trying to overcome it as fast as I can. And I rely on my friends to understand. Understanding goes a long way to keeping me above the water. No one can fix it, but compassion is our greatest gift and to receive it from someone is my lifeline.
Didn't come here to write all this, but there it is. I hope Robin's family gets through this ok.
By the way, I saw Robin Williams last month riding his bike here in MN during his rehab stay. Only a brief second, but I thought a lot in that moment how it was good he was getting his sobriety tune up. I wish it had of been enough.
ebake02 wrote:The world loses Robin Williams and Lauren Bacall in the same week and we're still stuck with Justin Beiber and the Kardashians. What a crock of shit...
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Marabelle wrote:It's terribly sad. all of these famous people making these kind and loving comments about their friend. it makes me sadder.
where were they when this man was suffering. suicide is part of depression, it's on the continuum, it's the grey between the white and the black'; the more depressed you get the darker the grey gets until it leads to a totally destructive and final color of black.
perhaps he could have been saved but you get paralyzed and you dwell in that dark place by yourself and no one can get in to help you. i don't know where people were months ago when he first started sliding down that hill of depression. you know he's been
there before and you knew he'd be there again and you know when this time was worse than the last time. but he wouldn't budge and you felt you couldn't push him; but there's always the power of the courts to make someone get the help they need. oh he'd been embarrassed and threaten never to talk to you again; but he'd be alive. he'd be here amongst all these sad faces making
these kind and sweet comments. he couldn't do it himself; but someone else could have done it for him. so, today i'm not mad at him for what he's done. and the act was selfish but i think sometimes we have to be our brother's keeper.
AR wrote:It's a mental illness most of us not wired that way will never understand. Selfish on the surface to those of us left behind for sure. Not to those who take it to the end under that cloud.
The only thing that I have to say though is I feel more for people who have this issue that have to work 9 to 5 jobs and just can't leave their lives to go to rehab for months and get help. They don't have those kind of resources like Robin Williams did. I just feel more for them. Doesn't make this any less sad of course.
majik wrote:Depression for some people is a life long Permanant Problem. 10% of sufferers do not respond to any currently available treatments.
majik wrote:Depression for some people is a life long Permanant Problem. 10% of sufferers do not respond to any currently available treatments.
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