verslibre wrote:RedWingFan wrote:Oh yeah. Apparently Clark's hair folicles aren't so.............super.
I'm too busy looking at Gal Gadot's WW to notice. I guess you and Honker are fixated on beefcake.
Carter > Gadot
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verslibre wrote:RedWingFan wrote:Oh yeah. Apparently Clark's hair folicles aren't so.............super.
I'm too busy looking at Gal Gadot's WW to notice. I guess you and Honker are fixated on beefcake.
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RedWingFan wrote:verslibre wrote:RedWingFan wrote:Oh yeah. Apparently Clark's hair folicles aren't so.............super.
I'm too busy looking at Gal Gadot's WW to notice. I guess you and Honker are fixated on beefcake.
Carter > Gadot
YoungJRNYfan wrote:For Deb:
Via @Mark_Lauthier: Jason Momoa signs AQUAMAN sketch cover @OzComicCon but not before adding his own artistic touch!
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Via @Mark_Lauthier: Jason Momoa signs AQUAMAN sketch cover @OzComicCon but not before adding his own artistic touch!
Hah!
verslibre wrote:Did you watch Gotham last night? That was some good shit.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:verslibre wrote:Did you watch Gotham last night? That was some good shit.
Thought it was solid, tight and entertaining. Love Selina Kyle's overall look for the character. Perfect casting to the comic books. The scene where Bruce's parents got killed was perfect imagery from within' the pages. Loved the cameo's of future villains as well. Cobblepot is going to be the star of the show.
Rip Rokken wrote:I also thought they made a huge mistake trying to shoehorn appearances by almost every major Batman villain into a pilot barely over 40 minutes. Hell, there was Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, Joker (or at least teased by the stand-up comic), Poison Ivy, Carmine Falcone, etc.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:I wasn't expecting anything to be too groundbreaking for a pilot kickoff episode. For a new premiering Batman show on television thought to bring in a newer audience, the basics need to be hit first before anything. TV's going to have that luxury of getting bold and crazy down the line, which is the reason why you keep television and cinema separate. I thought it was entertaining. A nice setup show. The details to next episode already sounds good. I believe Gordon gets his feet wet in Arkham.
Rip Rokken wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:verslibre wrote:Did you watch Gotham last night? That was some good shit.
Thought it was solid, tight and entertaining. Love Selina Kyle's overall look for the character. Perfect casting to the comic books. The scene where Bruce's parents got killed was perfect imagery from within' the pages. Loved the cameo's of future villains as well. Cobblepot is going to be the star of the show.
I watched and wasn't impressed at all. Relied way too much on "wink 'n nod" references without breaking any new ground. After seeing so many very similar scenes of Bruce Wayne's parents getting killed, it eventually loses its emotional impact without shaking things up a bit more. I also thought they made a huge mistake trying to shoehorn appearances by almost every major Batman villain into a pilot barely over 40 minutes. Hell, there was Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, Joker (or at least teased by the stand-up comic), Poison Ivy, Carmine Falcone, etc. They kinda shot their own wad in the pilot when they should have left much more for fans to discover throughout the season.
To me, it was cheesy and predictable, with a weak-ass story, and I can't remember a single scene that made me hungry for anything more.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
verslibre wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:I also thought they made a huge mistake trying to shoehorn appearances by almost every major Batman villain into a pilot barely over 40 minutes. Hell, there was Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, Joker (or at least teased by the stand-up comic), Poison Ivy, Carmine Falcone, etc.
You obviously missed the entire marketing campaign that informed us that these characters would be in the show. Also, Catwoman is a "cat woman," but she's not quite Catwoman yet. You saw Edward Nygma and Oswald Cobblepot, not Riddler and Penguin. You saw a little redhead, not Poison Ivy. This is a show set in the Batman Universe, before Batman, so watching the show and getting pissed off that these characters are in the show — hell, it's called Gotham!— is kind of lame, bro.
Rip, if you watched the whole show and didn't find yourself, at some point, masturbating to it because of it's undeniable greatness, kindly see yourself out of this thread. Thank you. Sincerely, The Fop duo.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Zack Snyder is definitely going to put out the most accurate portrayal of comic book Batman cinema has ever seen. Things are going to explode. Loud noises will occur. Action is going to be off the wall. We're good in the visual and action department. This is a comic book movie afterall and Snyder isn't afraid to show the contents that goes on inside of those pages and the majority of it is crazy and iconic imagery with shit hitting the fan.
The x-factor here is Chris Terrio. The story and dialouge is going to be an infinity times better than it was in MoS and most of that was Goyers doing. With David S. Goyer, you know what you're going to get and we got Goyer-esq dialogue. This time, Terrio is going to get a shot to make this thing great and will probably handle duties on Justice League as well. We're in good hands here.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:Zack Snyder is definitely going to put out the most accurate portrayal of comic book Batman cinema has ever seen. Things are going to explode. Loud noises will occur. Action is going to be off the wall. We're good in the visual and action department. This is a comic book movie afterall and Snyder isn't afraid to show the contents that goes on inside of those pages and the majority of it is crazy and iconic imagery with shit hitting the fan.
The x-factor here is Chris Terrio. The story and dialouge is going to be an infinity times better than it was in MoS and most of that was Goyers doing. With David S. Goyer, you know what you're going to get and we got Goyer-esq dialogue. This time, Terrio is going to get a shot to make this thing great and will probably handle duties on Justice League as well. We're in good hands here.
Sure, whatever you say, buddy.Will the film also single-handedly solve the Middle East crisis, usher in world peace, and cure HPV? There are clearly no brakes on your hype train.
Rip Rokken wrote:verslibre wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:I also thought they made a huge mistake trying to shoehorn appearances by almost every major Batman villain into a pilot barely over 40 minutes. Hell, there was Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, Joker (or at least teased by the stand-up comic), Poison Ivy, Carmine Falcone, etc.
You obviously missed the entire marketing campaign that informed us that these characters would be in the show. Also, Catwoman is a "cat woman," but she's not quite Catwoman yet. You saw Edward Nygma and Oswald Cobblepot, not Riddler and Penguin. You saw a little redhead, not Poison Ivy. This is a show set in the Batman Universe, before Batman, so watching the show and getting pissed off that these characters are in the show — hell, it's called Gotham!— is kind of lame, bro.
Oh, for god's sake son, are you serious? I've missed nothing, and knew exactly what the show was marketed to be and who these characters are. Of course they aren't in full bloom yet. But it really constricts things to have them all showing up within a 2 block radius of each other in the pilot episode. Just not necessary, and they are only doing that because they know it's going to be tough to sell a Batman series sans Batman, as opposed to Smallville or The Flash where they can introduce villains gradually throughout one or more seasons. What they've done now is create a big soap opera with all the major characters revealed early.
This reminds me of the way Predator II was marketed. We don't have Arnie on the marquee, so we're going to mention the 6-7 other actors we hired to fill his shoes.
Hey, if you like the show, fine. I will continue to watch for a few episodes and maybe it will catch on with me like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. finally did once they finally learned to stand up and tell better stories. But you can't deny, most of the major characters in Gotham have already been portrayed in far superior performances, some even iconic, on the big screen. Nothing here is impressing me so far. Is it possible to have a Batman-themed series work? I enjoyed Birds of Prey quite a bit while that lasted, so I think it's possible.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:Zack Snyder is definitely going to put out the most accurate portrayal of comic book Batman cinema has ever seen. Things are going to explode. Loud noises will occur. Action is going to be off the wall. We're good in the visual and action department. This is a comic book movie afterall and Snyder isn't afraid to show the contents that goes on inside of those pages and the majority of it is crazy and iconic imagery with shit hitting the fan.
The x-factor here is Chris Terrio. The story and dialouge is going to be an infinity times better than it was in MoS and most of that was Goyers doing. With David S. Goyer, you know what you're going to get and we got Goyer-esq dialogue. This time, Terrio is going to get a shot to make this thing great and will probably handle duties on Justice League as well. We're in good hands here.
Sure, whatever you say, buddy.Will the film also single-handedly solve the Middle East crisis, usher in world peace, and cure HPV? There are clearly no brakes on your hype train.
verslibre wrote:The problem, it appears, is you were expecting the DC equivalent of Breaking Bad. It was not actually far-fetched that Selina should be in a grimy alley where Bruce's parents were murdered. Nygma is an employee of GCPD, and Cobblepot is written to be one of Mooney's goons. That's what you're making a big deal about.
verslibre wrote:There isn't much of a point to comparing these performances to Oldman, etc. Oldman is by far my favorite Gordon. However, Donal Logue (Bullock) is one of acting's best-kept secrets. His and Michael Raymond-James's show Terriers (on FX) was great but it lasted all of one season because it wasn't stupid or violent enough for audiences to latch on to, like that overrated garbage called Sons of Anarchy.
I like Agents of SHIELD a lot but the first half of the entire first season was bubblegum adventure stuff that could have been easily removed from the MCU save the obvious connections. They really picked things up, and I don't buy that it was planned out that way. Apart from the eye candy (Ming-Na, Chloe, Liz), they knew the ratings were sucking and they needed to give it a steroidal infusion of All Things Marvel to pick up the pace. Gotham is not a "superhero" show, though, and if it doesn't get past a season, oh, well. I'm still going to watch it. I'm also watching Z Nation on SyFy which is Asylum's Walking Dead knockoff.
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