Deen popped again.

[perryfan61]

https://www.facebook.com/schonmusic/photos/a.577764238950722.1073741825.332920203435128/905885542805255/?type=1&theater

Neal Schon

6 hrs · Edited ·
.
Great News Canada CACACACACACACA

Neal "Vortex" Schon will be opening up for Journey

I was hoping there wasn't going to be an opening act, so we might get a longer set list. Does this mean Neal will play 45 minutes of Vortex?

[tater1977]

Arnel Pineda ‏@arnelpineda · 23m23 minutes ago
As promised...

CH5SWKhUEAAjAa3.jpg

[JohnH]

I'm a huge Deen fan and love his new album but this is very bad and second time around with this Oj Jim Brown crap and he needs some serious help. And he's been battling his issues a long time , been to rehab and had to leave Soul Sirkus due to that . You can kiss Revolution Saints goodbye too as Jack Blades and Doug Aldrich will want nothing to do with this . And in the bar as I began typing Wheel in the Sky just came on. Freaky.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Arnel Pineda ‏@arnelpineda · 23m23 minutes ago
As promised...

CH5SWKhUEAAjAa3.jpg

Why are they rehearsing with an orchestra?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Quick thoughts...

Even though most news articles state that Deen has been with Journey since 98, his working relationship with Schon/Cain stems back to Bad English and Hardline. That's a long time.

His child-like enthusiasm for the job was always visible and this whole predicament is just sad and pathetic. Having tied the knot 5 times, Neal is no stranger to rocky relationships or marital strife, but nothing like this.

Deen's style of drumming was always more geared to heavy metal thrashing. Some nights on stage, I swear Deen was the loudest thing up there. I look forward to Omar's more precise jazz style. But Deen was a great singer too. And if his time with the band is truly over, I think he was underutilized.

[perryfan61]

Arnel Pineda ‏@arnelpineda · 23m23 minutes ago
As promised...

CH5SWKhUEAAjAa3.jpg

Why are they rehearsing with an orchestra?

I wondered the same thing myself when I saw this.....

[ScarabFan]

Arnel Pineda ‏@arnelpineda · 23m23 minutes ago
As promised...

CH5SWKhUEAAjAa3.jpg

Why are they rehearsing with an orchestra?

Jon mentioned a while back they will do the Hollywood Bowl show with a youth orchestra and potentially release a DVD of it.

[PianoMan1986]

I was excited with the initial mention of recording a DVD with an orchestra, but without Deen I'm not sure how I feel about it -- not to say Omar won't do an awesome job.

[JourneyHard]

"The number of American troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq between 2001 and 2012 was 6,488. The number of American women who were murdered by current or ex male partners during that time was 11,766. That's nearly double the amount of casualties lost during war."

This is comparing apples to oranges. Nobody is defending domestic abuse, but the men do NOT scream, "Allah Akbar" when they do it.

[Moonglow]

Navigating life can be tough, and some people have the misfortune of inheriting cells that adversely interact with alcohol/drugs, not to mention that by virtue of his occupation, Deen frequently finds himself in situations where that stuff is readily available, if not thrown at him. No excuse for his actions, but one can only hope and pray he gets the help he needs....and part of that treatment will probably involve staying out of those environments for a while. As much as his musical contributions will be missed, the Journey boys probably did him a favor by kicking him off the tour. I hope he has a strong support network at home.

[Yoda]

Really hoping the best for Deen, but I have to admit, initially, this doesn't sound good at all. Admittedly, I'm intrigued to hear how Omar's drumming is going to sound with Journey on these tours. From what I hear, his drumming is more in line of Steve Smith's.

I'm sure this will force somewhat of a change in set list so that they are giving Arnel a break like they would when Deen would take lead on a couple of songs. A big drum solo, a big guitar solo, and maybe some some lead vocals from Cain or Schon?

Looking forward to this DVD if it sees the light of day. I think if any band should have ever done a gig with an orchestrator, it should have been Journey.

[Archetype]

I guess this means they'll be piping in an even greater percentage of their backing vocals.

[Eric]

Short term...a change in the lineup always seems to create energy. Long term......Deen's vocals would be missed.

[hgwy407]

"This is comparing apples to oranges. Nobody is defending domestic abuse, but the men do NOT scream, "Allah Akbar" when they do it."

Hardly, it demonstrates just how serious and dangerous domestic violence is. Childish and disgusting response.

[ebake02]

deen's mug shot speaks volumes to the depth of issues the man has...it's time for him to be out of rock and roll, off the road and in treatment for whatever demons he has...

I would call that an "I just flushed my career down the toilet" look myself.

[Navarro]

Navarro, with all respect to tour feelings about the law, here is a sobering fact,

"The number of American troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq between 2001 and 2012 was 6,488. The number of American women who were murdered by current or ex male partners during that time was 11,766. That's nearly double the amount of casualties lost during war."

Source http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/2 ... 59776.html

The police are not to blame here, they didn't just decide to show up to Deen's house. The fact is the laws are there to protect everyone and to provide a cooling off period for both parties. If the police were to simply leave, with any indication or allegation of an act of domestic violence, and someone was seriously hurt or killed after they leave the scene, guess who is going to be held liable? The risks are simply too great for all parties not to intercede by enforcing the laws of the state. What Deen appears to need, indicated by two incidents, is professional help. I don't know if Deen did anything wrong, but after two events, where there is smoke there is likely fire. Domestic violence, in any form, is simply unacceptable and to make excuses or turn a blind eye helps no one, including Deen.

I don't disagree with anything you have written. I am not pro-domestic violence. I think the link you posted is great. In fact, I said if Deen is guilty, he should due some jail time. The point was- our society tends to convict someone before they have had their day in court. Not exactly the American way... It seems like in the court of public opinion, Deen is already found guilty. It was not to make light if domestic violence.

[Yoda]

I guess this means they'll be piping in an even greater percentage of their backing vocals.

Well, ya know, all bands do that. Nothing new on that end.

[tater1977]

https://www.facebook.com/schonmusic/photos/a.577764238950722.1073741825.332920203435128/905885542805255/?type=1&theater

Neal Schon

6 hrs · Edited ·
.
Great News Canada CACACACACACACA

Neal "Vortex" Schon will be opening up for Journey

Journey FB
https://www.facebook.com/journey

Journey ....
It's on - Omar & Rachel Z Hakim Jerry Brooks and Neal "Vortex" Schon
are officially opening all shows in Canada

[Aaron]

Deen should be considered innocent until proven guilty. There's just many people targeting "rich" people to gain a financial advantage.

Journey did the right thing by giving Deen his space to deal with the issue.

Deen, if you're having problems get them fixed before you loose your gig bro. Change your friends, whatever you have to do, but I would hate it if I'm not hearing your vocals and rhythm behind my second favorite band. Prioritize what's important to you and make it happen sir. No one cares where you've been, but the do care where you are going.

[Onestepper]

Having seen them last summer, I can honestly say that the best part of the show was Deen's solos and vocals on Mother Father. He absolutely was the best part of the night. I hope he gets some help, and I completely applaud the band for making the move. Domestic violence is nothing to take lightly, and if he did what he is accused of, he should face a stiff penalty.

His life is not over though. He can come back from this. I'm rooting for him.

[Aaron]

Having seen them last summer, I can honestly say that the best part of the show was Deen's solos and vocals on Mother Father. He absolutely was the best part of the night.

This ^^^^^ I've not seen them in a few years but agree, Deen is the energy in the band.

I just wished they would put out some decent new music and play it live. Night Ranger is putting out new music that KILLS. Revolution Saints is bad ass as well. I just don't get Journey's deal, they keep playing the same shite from the Perry era. I can listen to the records at home with the Jesus on the Nuemann.

[Memorex]

For Many of us, Deen is a breath of fresh air in the show. But for 90% of the people there, they could give a shit who is playing drums. And the guys know that.

[perryfan61]

For Many of us, Deen is a breath of fresh air in the show. But for 90% of the people there, they could give a shit who is playing drums. And the guys know that.

It's not just his drumming, it's his singing......I was so looking forward to his songs. Mother Father especially. I hope he can clear this up soon, I think he should use this break to re-evaluate his life, and his priorities.

[Marabelle]

I think some times perspective is lost; the music will continue but you don't get too many chances to make your life right.

[Memorex]

For Many of us, Deen is a breath of fresh air in the show. But for 90% of the people there, they could give a shit who is playing drums. And the guys know that.

It's not just his drumming, it's his singing......I was so looking forward to his songs. Mother Father especially. I hope he can clear this up soon, I think he should use this break to re-evaluate his life, and his priorities.

Again, it's cool for us to see, but the people going to the shows now just want to have a beer and sing DSB.

As far as Deen, hope he gets it together. If he's violent (physically or verbally) to his wife, then I could give a shit if he is back with Journey. Bad stuff is bad stuff and just because we like his voice doesn't give him a pass.

[The_Noble_Cause]

For Many of us, Deen is a breath of fresh air in the show. But for 90% of the people there, they could give a shit who is playing drums. And the guys know that.

Given the recent turnover of singers (SA, JSS, AP), I'd say close to 90% doesn't give a shit who's singing either.

[annie89509]

Navarro, with all respect to tour feelings about the law, here is a sobering fact,

"The number of American troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq between 2001 and 2012 was 6,488. The number of American women who were murdered by current or ex male partners during that time was 11,766. That's nearly double the amount of casualties lost during war."

Source http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/2 ... 59776.html

The police are not to blame here, they didn't just decide to show up to Deen's house. The fact is the laws are there to protect everyone and to provide a cooling off period for both parties. If the police were to simply leave, with any indication or allegation of an act of domestic violence, and someone was seriously hurt or killed after they leave the scene, guess who is going to be held liable? The risks are simply too great for all parties not to intercede by enforcing the laws of the state. What Deen appears to need, indicated by two incidents, is professional help. I don't know if Deen did anything wrong, but after two events, where there is smoke there is likely fire. Domestic violence, in any form, is simply unacceptable and to make excuses or turn a blind eye helps no one, including Deen.

I don't disagree with anything you have written. I am not pro-domestic violence. I think the link you posted is great. In fact, I said if Deen is guilty, he should due some jail time. The point was- our society tends to convict someone before they have had their day in court. Not exactly the American way... It seems like in the court of public opinion, Deen is already found guilty. It was not to make light if domestic violence.

This is one of those sensitive topics that opinions posted are quick to be taken out of context. I agree…with nature of the media nowadays to sensationalize (TMZ, a news source, really?!), far too often someone is presumed guilty before all the facts are out. IIRC, the previous time Deen was arrested at his house for domestic battery, turned out he & his g/f had a fight in the house; she ran outside with her phone; he ran after her, grabbed phone out of her hands, threw it across the street; neighbors called the cops; he was arrested right on the spot. I believe the case was settled on a misdemeanor of domestic disturbance and Deen paid a fine; no jail time. For all we know, this could be something just as innocuous.

Of course, we know Deen has a problem with either alcohol or drugs or both (missing time with the band being in rehab repeatedly). Apparently, he’s not cured. Maybe, this latest episode will get him finally to straighten out. His livelihood depends on it.

[Pacfanweb]

Now charged with rape, 1st degree.

[AR]

There goes the Revolution Saints tour.

[perryswoman]

I am really sad to hear this. Love his singing and drumming. I wish the best for him and his wife and hopefully this will all workout somehow but I am sure it's the end of his Journey career.