YoungJRNYfan wrote:What the hell did Spider-Man do to "earn" his powers? Get bit by a radioactive spider? Riveting! And Batman didn't "earn" his shit either. He built it with money and more money.
Funny how you guys always turn to a Marvel beatdown. Ya all must be incredibly jealous or something.
Spiderman earned it by the entire "with great power comes great responsibility" thread. When he first got his powers, he used them for his own personal gain. Then he causes the death of his uncle and the above quote comes into play.
In addition to all of that, he's just a kid dealing with all of those "growing up' issues that kids deal with. So, the "just your friendly neighborhood spiderman..." brings him down from a god-like position like Superman, to a much more relatable human position.
A true hero suffers through tortures of the viillan exploiting his weaknesses and flaws...
Little do you know, there's more to a "hero" than just superpowers, how you earn them and the struggles you go through with villains to earn "power." It's what you do with that power that defines the term hero. First off, for the most part, Superman looks at his powers as an absolute burden. The dude is so far inside his own head, he struggles to understand what is right and what is wrong because most people look to him as a God when in reality, he grew up in Kansas on a farm as a smalltown farmboy that enjoys his family and moms American Apple Pie. With all that power, Supes doesn't have to do shit... but he does because it's the right thing to do and he choose's to do good.
I'm sorry, but you are just wrong. I said "hero", not "superhero". Any heroic character in story-telling has these same things happen to him...not just superheroes. This is a universal theme in story-telling that has been repeating itself since man first started telling stories. Obviously, George knows that and he knows it takes these things to create compelling characters and stories.
Again, the very fact that you feel obligated to explain this stuff about Superman is a HUGE sign that a BvS movie is happening WAY too early. The FACT is these things were not made clear in MOS and cramming all of this into the first act of BvS is not realistic.
Second, the true weakness and flaws of Superman is so ironic because most of those things have to due with his family and loved ones. You know why? Because Clark is as human as he can possibly be and his care for his loved ones outshine anything heat vision could do for him. Superman's true flaw is his emotional connection to us and everything we do in existence. He has human emotions and we all know that's one of the most flawed aspects of living!
No, you just don't understand. That is not a character flow that can be exploited in writing. Over-loving? Too emotional? Come on.
and he overcomes them with sacrifice, pain, struggle, and the help of those he surrounds himself with.
Like in Man of Steel? The pain, sacrifice and struggle Kal went through was heavy shit. He turned himself in to our military (sacrifice) who threw his ass to Zod like a dog. He got his ass handed to him by Krpytonian's with far more superior hand to hand combat skills than he could ever dream of (struggle) and the (pain) of having to kill off his only connection to where he came from where he spent his whole life searching because this psycho from Krypton wanted to Terraform his adoptive planet that gave him life by killing him with his bare hands when he was told his entire life to turn the other cheek in the face of danger.
Yes, that is what they TRIED to do in MoS. I just don't think it worked - at all. He carries no scars from his fight. The death of Zod came across to me as a bit of forced drama. In the end it was a dramatic event that carried no consequences forward. Five minutes later he's all smiles and "American Way" to the military.
So, now they are throwing all of this, "Oh, wait, here is the REAL consequences of what happened..." in BvS. Sorry, but that is way too late.
