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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:55 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nzfH5dVZ3o

By now, folks are very familiar with the way Marvel Studios works. What at first seemed like a very out of the ordinary approach—forming a “Brain Trust” of creative-types to hash out the studio’s inter-connected universe plans—has now become commonplace for any big studio wanting to enact a big multi-franchise blueprint. The one that’s probably of most interest to fans, of course, is the Brain Trust over at Warner Bros., which is putting together that studio’s slate of inter-connected DC Comics adaptations.

Obviously Warner Bros. has a very different approach to how it makes its superhero films than Marvel does, but up until now, little was known about exactly how they set about crafting their own interconnected universe. Luckily, Steve recently got the chance to sit down with Atlas Entertainment President and Founder Charles Roven, who produced Christopher Nolan’s Batman films as well each entry in the current slate of DC adaptations, from Man of Steel to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice to the upcoming Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman.

As one of the key producers involved in bringing these massive superhero properties to life, Steve took the opportunity to ask Roven if the Warner Bros. DC Cinematic Universe Brain Trust is indeed made up of himself, Zack Snyder, Deborah Snyder, and DC Comics Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:21 am

I literally just got done watching that Roven interview not too long ago. Great answers by Roven. He seems in total control with his answers, which mean the plans are in place. The way he described things changing is exactly how I could see Man of Steel 2 evolving to and becoming Batman V Superman. So cool and I love this creative route they're going with their talent.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:15 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:The show seems to lack balance to me. The references to Superman are way overdone and it's "girl girl girl girl girl" for the entirety of the show with no care for the many subplots taking place. I just feel the show lacks balance with so much being thrown at the screen, but it's still early. Television is tough when you're introducing new things to an iconic family such as Superman's but the show seems one-note thus far.

I was hoping Superman wouldn't be that much involved so Kara would have more of the spotlight, but the heavy references are forcing the show and viewers to want Supes to show up, especially since it makes no sense to have a "no Superman clause" when villains from Krypton are showing up right away. I saw the trailer for E3 and Superman comes to help Kara. Though he's blurred, I think it adds more weight to the name drops every 5 seconds and is better for the show overall if they address Superman early so Kara can have more of the spotlight. They should only use Supes when the story calls for it. The problem is the constant name-drops to Supes. It's a contradicting feeling when they don't want Superman to appear much and have James Olsen be that constant mouthpiece between the two. Glad Kal's atleast showing up next Monday.


And, this is exactly right. I found the whole thing boring and very predictable.

Superman shouldn't be mentioned at all. Bringing in Jimmy Olsen was a bad idea. What should happen is a short Superman cameo where he comes in and tells her that she is doing fine, that he has his own things to deal with and it's good to know she can handle herself without him. And, Olsen should leave the show and be replaced by her own side-kick.

What they are essentially doing is making Supergirl a weak character who everybody in the show views as second rate to Superman...and even she views herself that way. And, when she's NOT in the suit, she's even weaker. Even after she saved the airplane, it wasn't like this moment of triumph that she came out of the phone booth as a strong person.

I hope Marvel is watching this and knows what NOT to do with Captain Marvel. I want Iron Man to make some sexist remark like, "what do we call you, hot pants?" Then have her thrown him down, rip his mask off, and say, "For you, it's Ms. Danvers." and then brake his nose. And, then as she looks at the rest of the Avengers say, "They can call me Captain Marvel."

That's how you introduce a strong female superhero. What they are doing to Supergirl is just crap. So much so that I'd rather watch Helen Slater.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:11 am

Monker wrote:That's how you introduce a strong female superhero.


Don't worry. Wonder Woman's going to show up for the first time in just a few short months, kick ass and take names.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:13 am

I don't think they're making SG look weak at all. She is actually embracing her powers and loves the spotlight and wants the spotlight. The last episode touched upon how the media was getting to her and the comparisons she's making about Superman is how he made mistakes at first as well. The whole love triangle thing is making me wince, but we got to remember this is a television show that's trying to bring in the teenage; female demographic so I can look past that when it comes to the typical drama of that direction. What's good is SG's will and wanting to make a difference, be apart of the bigger picture and help. She's going to great measures in trying to work with others to better herself so that's good to see. She's going to be a strong female lead here soon. Doubts are apart of character growth.

Captain Marvel has nothing to do with Super Girl as a television show. The audiences and the rules aren't even close to matching up with what message they will try to send. Like I said, SG is still a television series that is focusing on teenagers and the drama that comes with this sort of thing. It's 2 episodes in. They still need to establish so much. Season 1 of any television series is more of testing the waters. Judging from the trailer's and future description's, SG is on the right path.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:13 am

Monker wrote:Then have her thrown him down, rip his mask off, and say, "For you, it's Ms. Danvers." and then brake his nose.


Then she changes her pad? :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:54 pm

"--shoehorned humor; shoehornedhumor-- For you, it's Ms. Danvers; shoehornedhumor; shoehornedhumor"

^Fixed. Now, it's a Marvel movie quote.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:28 am

Tra-el, you and I are probably the only two guys on the planet who won't mind it when another actor finally steps into Tony Stark's shoes. :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:34 am

Man, this guy is fun as hell! Jason Momoa is going to be priceless on the JL1 and Aquaman promotions and interviews.

He talks a lot of Aquaman, but doesn't give away much. 10:40-12:40 he defends Man of Steel and stands up for his boi Supes..literally lol. The entire interview is golden and I love the way he handles the girl who drew him a picture of his characters. The man may look menacing, but he has a huge heart and is one of the coolest guys around. He also talks about his "Fuck Marvel" signature for a fan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5EF43IGwY

Deb, was that you that asked the last question? :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Abitaman » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:58 am

Monker wrote:
Abitaman wrote:Calvin didn't really give up much, probably 70% of the people guessing would get it right. It was a question of does it start or a flashback. Not giving away much.


I didn't know DC had the rights to Calvin and Hobbes.


Took me a week to catch that.. I need to wake up :D
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Abitaman » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:00 am

verslibre wrote: Then she went after Ollie's sister (who's now Speedy, after the death of Roy Harper aka Arsenal).
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When did Roy die. I remember the fake prison death, then him leaving. Did I miss something?
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:56 am

You're right, he left. I forgot the prison death was faked. It's Gotham where no deaths are faked (except one). :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:11 am

While Steve joked that he’d like to see a 4-hour version of the film, Roven actually revealed that something a little longer may be available eventually, though he was vague as to whether it’s an extended cut or if he’s just cheekily referring to the finished film itself:

“I don’t know if you’ll ever get the 4-hour version, but there may be something that’s coming along that might be slightly less long than that.”


http://collider.com/batman-vs-superman-new-trailer-extended-cut-charles-roven/

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:19 am

Me running into the theater for the midnight showing:

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:36 am

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Deb » Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:07 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Man, this guy is fun as hell! Jason Momoa is going to be priceless on the JL1 and Aquaman promotions and interviews.

He talks a lot of Aquaman, but doesn't give away much. 10:40-12:40 he defends Man of Steel and stands up for his boi Supes..literally lol. The entire interview is golden and I love the way he handles the girl who drew him a picture of his characters. The man may look menacing, but he has a huge heart and is one of the coolest guys around. He also talks about his "Fuck Marvel" signature for a fan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5EF43IGwY

Deb, was that you that asked the last question? :lol:


:lol: :mrgreen:

One of my favourite actors, followed his career since before Stargate Atlantis. Very funny and very cool!
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:54 am

Wonder Woman officially begins production in England! And heeeere weee..GO!

Gal Gadot shutting up those condescending, low-life internet keyboard pounding fucking haters! Look at the size the chick has massed in 2 years, especially with her natural lanky frame:

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:39 am

Suicide Squad is officially rated PG-13. Some people are disappointed it didn't get an R, but when you see what they're able to get away with on Gotham, I don't see any reason for concern. It'll be a gritty flick.

Also, looks like another female character will be in Justice League. Most people think it's Mera, but I'd rather see Zatanna.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:18 pm

Anybody see Spectre? Script is a mess, but it's a fun traditional Bond film with some new elements. For those who prefer their Bond movies to be mostly melodrama-free, check it out. Much more satisfying overall than the overrated Skyfall.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:27 am

And, Supergirl lost even more viewers last week...

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/ratings ... 201637321/

Something better change or this isn't going to last a full season...
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:36 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anybody see Spectre? Script is a mess, but it's a fun traditional Bond film with some new elements. For those who prefer their Bond movies to be mostly melodrama-free, check it out. Much more satisfying overall than the overrated Skyfall.


I did see it last weekend. It's a movie with great action and mondo set pieces. Expensive-looking film, but the opening was nothing short of awesome. There were drawbacks, of course. Waltz's Blofeld was great, but he should've been built up even bigger. You don't shortchange a guy who plays a sinister figure with such ease. And only a few minutes of Monica Bellucci? That was kind of weird. A few things were telegraphed to keep the action moving, like having young-chick suddenly take a walk alone down the street. But for full-on action, the movie delivers in a big way. I still like Casino Royale the best of these Craig movies.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:37 am

Monker wrote:And, Supergirl lost even more viewers last week...


Thanks for the notification, and keep up the good work.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:05 pm

I can hear the sucking of drool buildup and swallowing from the corner of Monker's mouth just dying for Supergirl to get cancelled just to have the I told you so posts.

1st seasons are always like this and though SG's bound to lose ratings like any other show, it's not going anywhere. It's only 3 epidosde's in including the pilot. She'll get renewed. It's a fun show.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:54 pm

So much for TDKIII being the last. I saw Frank Miller will be doing TDKIV.
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