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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:09 am

Boomchild wrote:Give me a break. As if the liberal press hasn't been attacking Trumps viewpoints and statements.

Mainstream media has been covering every word Trump says non-stop. Every speech Trump makes, no matter how nonsensical or inconsequential, gets live coverage. There is no such thing as a "liberal press." MSNBC is under new ownership and has been purged of nearly all lefties. I remember back when Ron Paul ran and even Fox tried to kick him out of the debates. They were legitimately scared by what he represented. That was an example of bias by the establishment. The media right now loves Trump and can't get enough of his bullshit. Many of the attacks aimed at Trump presently are by the Republican party. All this time the GOP thought gullible voters cared about things like tax cuts or slashing entitlements. But it turns out, the Republican voting base is easily manipulated by celebrity and base jingoism. None of the vodoo policy shit ever really mattered. Trump is going around defending Social Security and still he thrives in the polls.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:14 am

Not sure how anyone can condone this. If she does not get indited, the GOP should begin impeachment proceedings before she even puts her hand on a Bible.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:35 am

Mr. Trump, show us your penis :mrgreen:

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:31 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:
I don't think so. His words are classic Fascism...and I recognized it months ago. Nowadays, he's constantly compared to it. Others compare him to Mussolini, which may be more accurate. The bottom line is Trump is using fear, anger, and hatred to gain power.


In other words, a daisy chain of ignoramuses confirming each others' biases somehow makes it so? These historians would beg to differ. Throwing around the word "fascist!" and "Hitler!" is just a cheap way of halting ANY conversation about the non-PC topics Trump has raised.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellede ... 69949795fb
http://www.the-american-interest.com/20 ... a-fascist/


TNC, I love you. :P

Trumps speaks frankly about non-PC topics because he knows that if we don't stop kowtowing to the PC and have frank, open, adult discussions about them we will never resolve the problems they represent. The non-PC statements that I've heard him make are absolutely true. I worked in law enforcement until two years ago. I know which sectors of the public commit the most crimes of certain types. It was one of my duties to put together exactly that type of information for our agency to be added to those submitted by the other agencies across the country and included in a yearly report that is then distributed to those agencies. As much variation as there is in the demographics across this country, those segments of the population were always the most frequent offenders of those certain crimes.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:57 am

How many conservatives you see blocking roads and disrupting Liberal rallies? ...none.
They are all for freedom of expression...unless of course you disagree with them.
They are scared. The Republican Establishment is scared. About Damn Time.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:25 am

The rallies and protest follow a local border patrol union of Friday supporting Trump. Local 2544 said Trump asked for the endorsement and that officials responded by saying he is the only 2016 White House candidate to “publicly expressed his support” of the Border Patrol’s mission and it agents and that he has been “an outspoken candidate” on the need for a secure border.

Well at least someone has the back of our brave Border Agents. It sure isn't our current leadership in Washington.
And according to the current Clinton Running for President the Border is fine, no problemo there....
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:41 pm

ohsherrie wrote:Trumps speaks frankly about non-PC topics because he knows that if we don't stop kowtowing to the PC and have frank, open, adult discussions about them we will never resolve the problems they represent. The non-PC statements that I've heard him make are absolutely true. I worked in law enforcement until two years ago. I know which sectors of the public commit the most crimes of certain types. It was one of my duties to put together exactly that type of information for our agency to be added to those submitted by the other agencies across the country and included in a yearly report that is then distributed to those agencies. As much variation as there is in the demographics across this country, those segments of the population were always the most frequent offenders of those certain crimes.


He is not speaking in a "frankly". He is speaking hatefully and even obscenely.

The quality of the discussion of our political leaders should not be dumbed to a Twitter level, as Trump does. But, if that is all the better he can do, and it is all people require in their political leadership, then we'll have riots in the streets, anarchy, and maybe even a dictatorship before it is over.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:14 pm

This has nothing to do with me. I do not take my queues from biased online articles and liberal elites, as you do from the conservative and Republican side. All you do is repeat the crap that other say.

I made the comparisons to Hitler a few weeks before it hit all of the press. Maybe they read this forum and I am the inspiration for it....but they are not the inspiration for what I said.

Barry Goldwater is the father of the conservative movement. But, under Reagan's "leadership" it morphed into be more about "values" than conservative principals. Goldwater did not believe in government invading people's privacy, including being gay, and drugs, and all type of things. The original conservative movement was more in line with Ron Paul. People like Ted Cruz are very much out of step with their origins.

Nixon was a friend of Martin Luther King and was very far away from being a racist.

The truth is I was too young to remember any of the politics of Goldwater or Nixon's campaigns. So, I do not know if they used the fascist influences as Trump is doing.

Reagan was a skilled politician and knew how to work the electorate. I don't see any "Hitler" in him at all. He essentially took the politics of Goldwater and expanded on it by adding the religious right. And, BTW, he may have added that segment to his voting blow....but in the end he all but ignored their agenda.

I don't remember the Reagan/Carter campaign at all. I barely remember the Reagan/Mondale campaign. I don't recall anything so hateful as Trump, though. What I remember is Reagan owning stage with humor and one liners...but not "punch that person in the face" or "Mondale's an idiot". He was above all that and I respected the office. Besides, if Reagan was acting like Hitler, he would not be able to relate to Gorbachev, or Thatcher.

George HW Bush ran a campaign with ads that I would compare with Goebbels and his tactics...but I would not compare Bush to Hitler. The Bush/Dukakis campaigned proved two things: Goebbels techniques work in American politics. And, if you are attacked with bullshit that you MUST defend your self ASAP or you will lose. The electorate is STUPID and can not see through the bullshit on their own.

W. was an idiot who surrounded himself with those who abused their power. His Presidency also used techniques akin to Goebbels...he used fear to get what he wanted. But, it was more the people around him (Chenney and Rumsfeld, for example) that W. himself. Incompetent, ignorant fool, yes...Hitler - no.

On the other hand, Trump is so obviously influenced by fascism that I feel you are all in denial for not noticing it. He uses hatred of anything not American to stir up emotions and hatred within the electorate, he also uses Goebbels technique...repeating bullshit so often that you end up just believing it to get him to shut the hell up. His entire nominations is based on fear and hatred.

As far as the protestors that you ALL are whining about. Not EXPECTING protests after insulting almost every minority that exists is just plain naïve. I don't care if they are orignainized by MOVEON.ORG or not...TRUMP himself has triggered this by his insulting rhetoric and confrontational attitude. In addition, as TNC has said, Trump gets all the coverage so if these groups want to be seen and heard then protesting a Trump rally is the way to do it. He has made himself a target by BEING an asshole.



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Every Republican Presidential Candidate Is Hitler

The “Big Lie” has been around for over fifty years.

“Except for Adolf Hitler's extermination of the Jewish people, the American bombardment of defenseless peasants in Indochina is the most barbaric act of modern times.”

That quote didn’t come from some Soviet hack coughing up copy for Moscow, but from Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern. (Some years later, McGovern would compare the Communist massacres in Cambodia to the Holocaust and call for some of that barbaric military intervention.)

Vice President Hubert Humphrey also brought out Hitler when running against Nixon, declaring, “If the British had not fought in 1940, Hitler would have been in London and if Democrats do not fight in 1968, Nixon will be in the White House.” Chicago Mayor Daley had accused Nixon of “Hitler type” tactics.

McGovern had set a record for comparing Nixon to Hitler, which made him very popular with the left, but he hadn’t originated it. Comparing any Republican presidential candidate to Hitler had been a standard Democratic political tactic for some time no matter how inappropriate it might be.

Before McGovern was comparing Nixon to Hitler, he was comparing Barry Goldwater to Hitler. Goldwater had a Jewish father and a distaste for Socialism, which would have made him unwelcome in the ranks of the racially and politically pure National Socialists, but that didn’t stop the Hitler accusations from being hurled by the Democratic party and its political allies in the press.

Governor Pat Brown of California said, “Goldwater's acceptance speech had the stench of fascism. All we needed to hear was Heil Hitler.” Mayor Jack Shelley of San Francisco claimed that Goldwater strategists got all their ideas from Mein Kampf.

Even though Goldwater had been an early NAACP member, NAACP leader Roy Wilkins warned, "Those who say that the doctrine of ultra-conservatism offers no menace should remember that a man come out of the beer halls of Munich and rallied the forces of rightism in Germany. All the same elements are there in San Francisco now."

The NAACP accused Goldwater of appealing to “fear and bigotry”. Martin Luther King said, “We see danger signs of Hitlerism in the candidacy of Mr. Goldwater.”

Union leaders launched a national campaign to denounce Goldwater as Hitler II. "I have drawn a parallel between Goldwater and Hitler and I make no apology for drawing that parallel," George Meany of the AFL-CIO declared. While Goldwater wasn’t Hitler, the CIO part of the AFL-CIO had strong Communist influences and after the Hitler-Stalin pact, some unions within it staged strikes to sabotage production and prevent aid from reaching the Allies who were fighting Hitler. Not only was Goldwater not Hitler, but some of the organizations represented by Meany had aided Hitler when Stalin told them to.

Accusing Republicans of being Hitler for assorted petty reasons dates back to the time when Hitler was still around. FDR accused Republican candidate Wendell Willkie of using “Hitler tactics” by repeating his slogans frequently. But it was the frequent associations of Republicans and Hitler by Democrats that was the true Big Lie. Its only purpose was a senseless association through the repetition of ridiculous and baseless accusations that every single Republican was just Hitler in a better suit.

Typical of this tactic was Senator Tom Lantos ranting, “If you overlook your involvement in the KKK, or the Nazi party, or the Republican Party, you are lying.” The issue at hand had nothing to do with Nazism. It was about Clinton’s Secretary of Agriculture taking bribes. The goal was to associate Republicans with Nazism by classing the two together as frequently as possible regardless of relevance, decency or truth.




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In the Iran-Contra trial, Oliver North was accused of “following Adolf Hitler’s official strategy”. What did one have to do with the other? Nothing. But this sort of lazy accusation had become typical and routine. William Shirer, who had also compared Nixon’s bombing of Hanoi to the Holocaust and called Nixon an “apt pupil” of Hitler (Pentagon spokesman Jerry Friedheim was Goebbels), compared Reagan to Hitler for intervening in Grenada. Then Shirer compared Bush I to Hitler for trying to outlaw flag burning.

By the Reagan years, the left had achieved a banality of Hitler analogies. Everything Reagan did was just like Hitler. All of Reagan’s associates were just like Hitler. It was Hitlers all the way down.

President George W. Bush inherited this banality of Hitlers. To left-wing Truthers, open and covert, 9/11 was the Reichstag fire, the Patriot Act was the beginning of a national dictatorship and Bush was a dictator. As Kurt Vonnegut quipped, “The only difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler was elected.” Hitler wasn’t elected, Bush was, but you can’t expect a left-wing loudmouth to know history.

Congressman Charles Rangel compared the Iraq War to the Holocaust. “This is just as bad as the 6 million Jews being killed." (Rangel had also claimed that the Contract with America was worse than Hitler.) Senator Durbin compared Gitmo to Nazi concentration camps. Senator John Glenn compared Republican arguments to Nazi propaganda. “It’s the old Hitler business… if you hear something repeated, repeated, you start to believe it.” Like repeatedly accusing Republicans of Nazism.

Congressman Keith Ellison, a former Nation of Islam supporter who had defended its anti-Semitism, compared the September 11 to the Reichstag fire while hinting at 9/11 Trutherism. Al Gore claimed that “The administration works closely with a network of rapid-response digital Brown Shirts”.

Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, a former Klansman, compared Bush to Hitler stooge Herman Goering. Byrd, who had filibustered the Civil Rights Act, also compared efforts to block Democratic filibusters to Nazi Germany. The “nuclear option” that Byrd was denouncing became a reality under Obama and Reid, but by then using it did not make Senators Democrats into the successors of Nazi Germany.

To most people, Nazi analogies summon up images of the Holocaust and a ruthless dictatorship. To the left however, any populist reaction against their rule is Nazism. In their world, there is a battle between progressive and reactionary forces. Any movement that dares to run for office by challenging progressive policies is reactionary, fascist and the second coming of the Third Reich. Republican victories are lazily attributed by liberal hacks to mindless public anger being exploited by right-wing demagogues.

And so the only thing we can truly be certain of is that any Republican nominee will be Hitler. It doesn’t matter what he believes. It doesn’t matter if Democrats considered him a moderate 5 minutes ago. Accusations of Nazism remain the default argument for a Democratic Party turned far to the left.

Republicans aren’t progressive. Therefore they’re Hitler. It’s really that simple.

Optimists thought that the Democrats had reached “Peak Hitler” under Bush. But for the left there is no Peak Hitler. The same tired line of attack has been trotted out for fifty years. It will go on limping around the liberal corral for another fifty years or a hundred years. The Big Lie will continue being repeated to indoctrinate each new politically active progressive with the conviction that anyone to the right is Hitler and that every election is a brand new battle to stop Hitler 2.0 from taking over America.

Goldwater was Hitler. Nixon was Hitler. Reagan was Hitler. Bush was Hitler. None of the latter three men declared the Fourth Reich, made themselves dictators for life and ran concentration camps. But the Big Lie retroactively rewrites the past by claiming that last decade’s Hitler was a decent moderate while the latest Republican Hitler is a terrifying monster. Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan were all resurrected as moderate contrasts to each other and then to Bush. The process of recreating Bush as a moderate has already begun. And so each Republican makes the electoral journey from Hitler to a political moderate whom a latter generation of liberals mourns while complaining that this latest Republican really is Hitler.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:50 am

Monker wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Trumps speaks frankly about non-PC topics because he knows that if we don't stop kowtowing to the PC and have frank, open, adult discussions about them we will never resolve the problems they represent. The non-PC statements that I've heard him make are absolutely true. I worked in law enforcement until two years ago. I know which sectors of the public commit the most crimes of certain types. It was one of my duties to put together exactly that type of information for our agency to be added to those submitted by the other agencies across the country and included in a yearly report that is then distributed to those agencies. As much variation as there is in the demographics across this country, those segments of the population were always the most frequent offenders of those certain crimes.


He is not speaking in a "frankly". He is speaking hatefully and even obscenely.

The quality of the discussion of our political leaders should not be dumbed to a Twitter level, as Trump does. But, if that is all the better he can do, and it is all people require in their political leadership, then we'll have riots in the streets, anarchy, and maybe even a dictatorship before it is over.



Monker, in all the years I've known you on this forum this is the first time I've seen you seem so stiff and superficial. Surely you see that there are problems in this country that must be addressed and they can't be until we see them and name them for what they truly are.

Washington is so corrupt that they do nothing but give politically correct lip service to them to appease the struggling masses and go on taking care of their political donors and lobbyists.

It is time for radical change. President Obama promised that but the corruption was too strong for him to break through. It is going to take somebody with Trump's audacity to do to Washington what he is already doing to the Republican Party. They are so terrified that he is going to tear their playhouse down that they're willing to run with a candidate who can't possibly beat Hillary so they can maintain the status quo in government.

You are helping them do that.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:32 am

God better be wearing his titanium cup when I arrive to be judged, cause the very first thing I'm going to do is break my foot off in his balls. Liberals and Dems are proof that Satan has, to some extent, a sense of humor.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:04 am

ohsherrie wrote:Monker, in all the years I've known you on this forum this is the first time I've seen you seem so stiff and superficial. Surely you see that there are problems in this country that must be addressed and they can't be until we see them and name them for what they truly are.


That is not what Trump is doing. He is exaggerating and lying to provoke anger and hatred. Illegals from Mexico are NOT rapists and murderers. That is simply a lie. Most of the Muslim world is not hateful and violent towards us. Muslims in NY did not stand up by the thousands to cheer 9/11. Ordering our military to perform torture will never be possible...unless he wants to be charged with war crimes.

Then he encourages the anger and hatred within his support during his rallies.

Washington is so corrupt that they do nothing but give politically correct lip service to them to appease the struggling masses and go on taking care of their political donors and lobbyists.


That may be true...but I will not support an angry fascist like Trump. That is very, very dangerous. Again, that is EXACTLY how Hitler came to power...by using fear and promoting hatred, blaming the entire world for Germany's economic issues, and pointing to a corrupt government who no longer worked in the nations interest. Hitler used THE EXACT SAME STRATEGY to gain power.

Trump is not the leader to make the changes that you speak of.

It is going to take somebody with Trump's audacity to do to Washington what he is already doing to the Republican Party. They are so terrified that he is going to tear their playhouse down that they're willing to run with a candidate who can't possibly beat Hillary so they can maintain the status quo in government.


Trump can't beat Hillary either. He has angered EVERY minority out there. The FACT is that even if every angry white voter goes for Trump, he will still lose because minorities now outnumber whites. The Reagan coalition no longer wins elections. Obama proved that - twice.

The Republicans have given up on this election to save the party's conservative right wing establishment. They would rather contest the nomination and alienate Trump supporters and nominate someone reasonable (to them) and have that person lose to Clinton than have Trump win the nomination and lose the election to Clinton...and lose the entire party to centrist Democrats and independents.

Either way, Republicans lose the election...but if they kick Trump out, they don't lose the party.

You are helping them do that.


Trump is not the candidate to do that. I would rather vote for Jesse Ventura than Donald Trump. I would rather vote for Kasich, Rubio , Ron Paul, or even Jeb, than Trump.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:21 am

Monker wrote:
Trump can't beat Hillary either. He has angered EVERY minority out there. The FACT is that even if every angry white voter goes for Trump, he will still lose because minorities now outnumber whites. The Reagan coalition no longer wins elections. Obama proved that - twice.


BREAKING POLL: 40% of Blacks Line Up Behind Trump – 45% of Hispanics


A SurveyUSA poll released in September showed that 25% of black respondents said they would vote for Trump over Clinton.

According to The American Mirror Trump would more than double the best result for a Republican in modern American history.Looking at the last 10 presidential election cycles, the highest black vote share for a Republican was 12% for Bob Dole in 1996.

Because a new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians.

Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12 ... hispanics/


Some Strong Signals for Donald Trump in the South


But a breakdown of recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News polling shows that Mr. Trump also has a likely base of support in those Southern states. And it comes with something of a surprise: Mr. Trump’s likely strength can be detected by looking at Republican primary voters who live in counties with large African American and Hispanic populations.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/12/2 ... the-south/
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:21 am

Monker wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Monker, in all the years I've known you on this forum this is the first time I've seen you seem so stiff and superficial. Surely you see that there are problems in this country that must be addressed and they can't be until we see them and name them for what they truly are.


That is not what Trump is doing. He is exaggerating and lying to provoke anger and hatred. Illegals from Mexico are NOT rapists and murderers. That is simply a lie. Most of the Muslim world is not hateful and violent towards us. Muslims in NY did not stand up by the thousands to cheer 9/11. Ordering our military to perform torture will never be possible...unless he wants to be charged with war crimes.

Then he encourages the anger and hatred within his support during his rallies.

Washington is so corrupt that they do nothing but give politically correct lip service to them to appease the struggling masses and go on taking care of their political donors and lobbyists.


That may be true...but I will not support an angry fascist like Trump. That is very, very dangerous. Again, that is EXACTLY how Hitler came to power...by using fear and promoting hatred, blaming the entire world for Germany's economic issues, and pointing to a corrupt government who no longer worked in the nations interest. Hitler used THE EXACT SAME STRATEGY to gain power.

Trump is not the leader to make the changes that you speak of.

It is going to take somebody with Trump's audacity to do to Washington what he is already doing to the Republican Party. They are so terrified that he is going to tear their playhouse down that they're willing to run with a candidate who can't possibly beat Hillary so they can maintain the status quo in government.


Trump can't beat Hillary either. He has angered EVERY minority out there. The FACT is that even if every angry white voter goes for Trump, he will still lose because minorities now outnumber whites. The Reagan coalition no longer wins elections. Obama proved that - twice.

The Republicans have given up on this election to save the party's conservative right wing establishment. They would rather contest the nomination and alienate Trump supporters and nominate someone reasonable (to them) and have that person lose to Clinton than have Trump win the nomination and lose the election to Clinton...and lose the entire party to centrist Democrats and independents.

Either way, Republicans lose the election...but if they kick Trump out, they don't lose the party.

You are helping them do that.


Trump is not the candidate to do that. I would rather vote for Jesse Ventura than Donald Trump. I would rather vote for Kasich, Rubio , Ron Paul, or even Jeb, than Trump.


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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:42 am

Monker wrote: Ordering our military to perform torture will never be possible...unless he wants to be charged with war crimes.


Ah yes, the old "war crimes" threat. To be charged with a war crime you have to first declare war or admit there is such a "war". Neither Congress nor B.O. has officially declared war. Furthermore, the non torture agreements were signed between countries\nations that agreed to those terms. Last I checked ISIS does not represent any country or nation. Their participants aren't even soldiers or "an army", there enemy combatants.
So from a legal standpoint the accusation of "war crimes" has a lot of challenges to such a charge.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:00 am

Obama: ‘Hopefully, We Can Learn From’ Cuba About Improving Human Rights In America

Speaking to reporters in Havana Monday, President Barack Obama said that, “hopefully,” the United States can learn a thing or two from Cuba’s record on improving basic, human rights.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/21/obama ... z43aZgeasy


Ummm, yeah that sounds logical based on Cuba's history. Guess all those refugees that flowed from Cuba to the shores of Florida "misunderstood" Castro.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:08 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I certainly agree with this.

http://www.investors.com/politics/edito ... -campaign/


The only way she would voluntarily suspend her campaign would be if she dies unexpectedly.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:09 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote: Ordering our military to perform torture will never be possible...unless he wants to be charged with war crimes.


Ah yes, the old "war crimes" threat. To be charged with a war crime you have to first declare war or admit there is such a "war". Neither Congress nor B.O. has officially declared war. Furthermore, the non torture agreements were signed between countries\nations that agreed to those terms. Last I checked ISIS does not represent any country or nation. Their participants aren't even soldiers or "an army", there enemy combatants.
So from a legal standpoint the accusation of "war crimes" has a lot of challenges to such a charge.


What I said there was a thinly veiled reference the trials of the Nazi's after WW2. That is the comparable history.

What would actually happen would be akin to Abu Grab...except it would be much more widespread , Trump would be publicly justifying it and ordering it...all the while you would have leaks to the press with pictures and video and a huge devisive debate raging in the country on whether it was right or wrong.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:14 pm

Yeah, keep believing the propaganda....meanwhile the last poll has Hillary beating Trump by 10pts.

Trump is going to lose, and lose badly. ..That is, if the Republicans even allow him to be nominated.

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Trump can't beat Hillary either. He has angered EVERY minority out there. The FACT is that even if every angry white voter goes for Trump, he will still lose because minorities now outnumber whites. The Reagan coalition no longer wins elections. Obama proved that - twice.


BREAKING POLL: 40% of Blacks Line Up Behind Trump – 45% of Hispanics


A SurveyUSA poll released in September showed that 25% of black respondents said they would vote for Trump over Clinton.

According to The American Mirror Trump would more than double the best result for a Republican in modern American history.Looking at the last 10 presidential election cycles, the highest black vote share for a Republican was 12% for Bob Dole in 1996.

Because a new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians.

Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12 ... hispanics/


Some Strong Signals for Donald Trump in the South


But a breakdown of recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News polling shows that Mr. Trump also has a likely base of support in those Southern states. And it comes with something of a surprise: Mr. Trump’s likely strength can be detected by looking at Republican primary voters who live in counties with large African American and Hispanic populations.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/12/2 ... the-south/
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:16 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I wonder if his first words when he landed were, "I'm home".

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/21/obama ... ium=Social


Rumor has it he kissed the ground when stepping off Air Force One and kept telling Castro how much he admired his leadership. :shock: :shock:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:24 pm

Monker wrote:Yeah, keep believing the propaganda....meanwhile the last poll has Hillary beating Trump by 10pts.

Trump is going to lose, and lose badly. ..That is, if the Republicans even allow him to be nominated.


For someone that is so dead sure Hillary will be the next POTUS you sure are taking great interest in someone who you claim doesn't have even a small chance of beating her. That doesn't make any logical sense. If it's a done deal then rebutting an opposite opinion would be a waste of time.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:26 pm

Monker wrote:What I said there was a thinly veiled reference the trials of the Nazi's after WW2. That is the comparable history.


Yeah, sure it was.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:39 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:Yeah, keep believing the propaganda....meanwhile the last poll has Hillary beating Trump by 10pts.

Trump is going to lose, and lose badly. ..That is, if the Republicans even allow him to be nominated.


For someone that is so dead sure Hillary will be the next POTUS you sure are taking great interest in someone who you claim doesn't have even a small chance of beating her. That doesn't make any logical sense. If it's a done deal then rebutting an opposite opinion would be a waste of time.


You bet I do. What Trump is doing is bad for the country in general. Intentionally stirring up so much anger and hatred does NOT "make America great again". It makes things MORE divisive and worse. Destroying a political party also does not really help things....unless your goal is to have the Democratic party be the dominate party along with two conservative parties who constantly split the vote.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:42 pm

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I wonder if his first words when he landed were, "I'm home".

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/21/obama ... ium=Social


Rumor has it he kissed the ground when stepping off Air Force One and kept telling Castro how much he admired his leadership. :shock: :shock:


Kind of impossible since Castro didn't meet him at the airport.

This should have happened a long time ago...I think Republicans are simply jealous that Obama did it before they could.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:43 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:What I said there was a thinly veiled reference the trials of the Nazi's after WW2. That is the comparable history.


Yeah, sure it was.


It absolutely was.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:58 pm

Monker wrote:Kind of impossible since Castro didn't meet him at the airport.

This should have happened a long time ago...I think Republicans are simply jealous that Obama did it before they could.


Who said those events happened at the same time? He did meet with Castro correct?

There are only two people that give a crap about Cuba. B.O. and Bill Clinton. Clinton just wants the good cigars that don't fall apart after insertion and another resource for good hookers.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:01 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:Kind of impossible since Castro didn't meet him at the airport.

This should have happened a long time ago...I think Republicans are simply jealous that Obama did it before they could.


Who said those events happened at the same time? He did meet with Castro correct?

There are only two people that give a crap about Cuba. B.O. and Bill Clinton. Clinton just wants the good cigars that don't fall apart after insertion and another resource for good hookers.


That is simply not true. There area a ton of legal immigrants who care a lot about their former country, or their family history in Cuba. And, a lot of them are in Florida...which has been a big swing state over the past few elections. These include both Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

You can joke around all you want but in the meantime, the Democrats are doing nothing but tightening the noose around the Republican party.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:59 pm

Look, a few months back, everybody "stood with Paris." Everybody was French for a day. Today, there are the same familiar calls to "stand with Brussels." And all the world will be Belgian for a day.

How about we stop all this hand holding crap and stand firmly against Islamists? How about instead of all this touchy-feely stuff, all the world finally gets serious and goes after and defeats Islamic terror with everything we have?

How about we quit lighting candles and begin blowing up terrorists?

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:46 am

Boomchild wrote:
Look, a few months back, everybody "stood with Paris." Everybody was French for a day. Today, there are the same familiar calls to "stand with Brussels." And all the world will be Belgian for a day.

How about we stop all this hand holding crap and stand firmly against Islamists? How about instead of all this touchy-feely stuff, all the world finally gets serious and goes after and defeats Islamic terror with everything we have?

How about we quit lighting candles and begin blowing up terrorists?

- Joe Walsh


How about we realize that knee jerk reactions following 9/11 and using terrorism as part of a long list of excuses led to invading Iraq in the first place. That left the opening for ISIS to come into existence. Being all hell bent on running into war to inact revenge is never an answer and the above proved it.

How about we also understand that Obama HAS BEEN blowing up terrorists with drones for years...but all I have read from lamers out there is critique. How about remembering that under W. words like the above would get you labeled a coward, not supporting the military, supporting the terrorists, unpatriotic and that you should leave the country.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:47 am

Fact Finder wrote:America to Establishment: Who the hell are you people ?

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 42192.html



Good read.


Somehow, people all over America are saying loudly and clearly this election year, Washington and its enablers – the media, the political pros and Wall Street – don’t understand us.


Perhaps the question should be "Do they care to understand us?" In my opinion the answer is no. What they care about is money, power and control. Making sure the inner circle which includes themselves as well as the lobbyists, the special interest groups and anyone who can pony up the big bucks is taken care of. We are inclined to think that it is the citizen's votes that elect our government officials. Somehow I'm more skeptical of this notion more then ever. I believe it was Stalin that basically once said: "It doesn't matter WHO votes, what matters is WHO is counting the votes".
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:04 am

Remember How Trump Threatened Ford? Well Look at the HUGE Announcement They Just Made

When the Ford Motor Co. decided to move jobs south to Mexico so that it could pay its workers less, billionaire businessman Donald Trump was furious. He made trade inequalities and Ford’s betrayal of American workers a central issue of his campaign.

And, without his even being in the Oval Office, it worked.

While he didn’t offer specifics about whether Ford would be rolling back it’s $2.5 billion expansion of the company’s operations in Mexico, it was clear that Fields was committed to addressing Trump’s complaints directly.

“Ford Motor Co. is here to stay in the United States,” Fields said.

http://conservativetribune.com/trump-th ... manualpost


I think someone needs to pin down the CEO of Ford for more specifics about his statement. This just seems to me to be damage control.
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