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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Abitaman » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:12 am

Sorry TNC, I didn't think that was a,spoiler. There was never any direct mention to Darkseid, i was putting 2 and 2 together to come up with that.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:20 am

Second showing last night. Fuck, I love this movie. The themes and story itself begs so many questions. The direction they can go in is endless. It's dark, but the references to the tone with story arcs, especially Bruce ' s is optimistic. It's damn good.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:23 am

Looks like BvS has broken some records.

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3838494

Batman V Superman posted the biggest pre-summer opening day with $81.3 million beating Furious 7 ($67.4 million).

Records don't just stop here, it also snags the biggest pre-summer opening weekend with a projected $175 million beating The Hunger Games ($152.5 million) at 4,242 theaters. Batman v Superman now also holds the record for biggest March and Easter weekend debut.

2nd Biggest Superhero Opening Day

Batman v Superman's opening day ($81.3 million) is the 2nd biggest superhero opening day ever as it is above The Avengers ($80.8M), The Dark Knight Rises ($75.7M) and Iron Man 3 ($68.8M) among others. It sits just below Age Of Ultron ($84.4M). So, this a huge achievement considering how the critics wrote negative reviews about it.

Fans Reaction is Positive As Opposed To Critics


A friend who was initially less-than-excited for the film let me know he saw it yesterday and loved it. F the "critics"! :)
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:59 am

Checking it out tonight.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:00 am

Abitaman wrote:Sorry TNC, I didn't think that was a,spoiler. There was never any direct mention to Darkseid, i was putting 2 and 2 together to come up with that.

No prob, bro. It's my fault for slacking and not seeing the film sooner. I never got around to seeing The Force Awakens and by now I know every single plot twist.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:10 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Checking it out tonight.


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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:51 am

TNC IN DA hizzay. I hope he enjoys atleast a little of it. Tough critic!
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby RedWingFan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:27 pm

I just got back from seeing the sold out 7:45 showing. The wife didn't like it at all. I thought it was ok. The fight scenes were well done. Funny thing, the opening scene where the cop with the shotgun enters the basement or whatever and people in the front of the audience start cheering wildly. My wife told me that the actor was watching with us in the theater. Apparently she heard people talking to him in line. There were also cheers when his name appeared in the credits.

Couldn't stand the Luther character. Gotta say, the Martha thing was laughable. Batman is convinced that he has to do this to end this threat to the entire planet and goes through all that trouble. Then "bam" best friends? And the flashbacks/Dreamsequences! Didn't know if I was watching BvS or Intrepid. I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to inject an interesting scene into the first half of the flick.

The email thing was pretty cheap too. It reminded me of the Amazing SpiderMan reboot and the walk through the OsCorp corridor and seeing the Octopus arms and all the other villian machanisms. Cheap way to introduce more characters. Absolute Lazy story telling by Sony, and the same here with D.C. I guess what DC is trying to do could work, but it's unlikely.

Absolutely hated the ending. Cheap way to try to have an emotional impact on the audience. It reminded me of, can't remember the name of the movie but it had Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman in it, I think they were on a submarine. They're on the same side through the whole movie until the end, when Hackman's character turns out to be the villian and then drops and "N" bomb on Denzel. Oooohhh. Instant hatred for Hackman's character.

As the lights came up everyone just kind of looked at each other trying to figure out who was staying for a possible post credits scene and who was leaving. Most filed out, and the only discussion I heard was negative. I'm hoping DC sticks with their plan because I love these kind of movie events. But they have to be great. This was just ok. Pretty sure I won't be there opening weekend for Suicide Squad though.

This movie will make big money this weekend, but I think the second week #'s will show a nosedive like MOS. Suicide Squad won't come close to it, neither will Wonder Woman. I'm sure Justice League will make loads too. Some stand alones could get whacked. I'll wait to go more in depth til everyone has seen it.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby RedWingFan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:21 pm

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:49 pm

Just got out of the theater. The earlier show was sold out. All I can say is, nice try DC. That was really a total cluster fuck. Pretty reminiscent of Avengers 2. More than any of his previous films, Snyder reveals he has no grasp of storytelling 101. None of the character motivations really made any sense and most disappointing, the action scenes were pretty unspectacular. Jesse Eisenberg needs to go back to Summer Stock or from here forward only appear in dinner theater in the Catskills. He hams it up like he is auditioning for a High School production of Rocky Horror Picture Show as Dr. Frankenfurter. I mean, it's just bad. Affleck was fine. So was Cavil. Off the top of my head, Ant Man was better than this. So was probably Batman Forever. The animated Dark Knight Returns was far superior. The climax with Doomsday was half-assed. I think the CGI for the Abomination in the Edward Norton Hulk film was better. The Justice League introductions were hokey and very shoehorned in.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:57 pm

Sucks to hear you didn't like it RWF; TNC. I was hoping you'd atleast like some of it. It's coming down to pretty much you either can get by Snyder's way of storytelling or you flat out can't stand it or overboard action with a choppy editing style.

I can't put my finger on how much I love these types of films. I can see how not everyone is going to like it, which is really interesting to me and a theme with Snyder movies. I happen to like that.

Onward! As much as I like Snyder, it's going to be good to get fresh directing styles like David Ayer, James Waan and Patty Jenkins coming up.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:27 pm

I will agree with TNC about Doomsday. I wasn't crazy about his overall look in the slightest. That fell flat to me. Snyder said we haven't seen the last of Doomsday and he's going to evolve with more of his mythology explained so I hope they can make him better.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:57 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:I will agree with TNC about Doomsday. I wasn't crazy about his overall look in the slightest. That fell flat to me. Snyder said we haven't seen the last of Doomsday and he's going to evolve with more of his mythology explained so I hope they can make him better.


I was wondering about that. While he did evolve, I thought he would look more extreme, with more facial spikes, etc.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:34 am

verslibre wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:I will agree with TNC about Doomsday. I wasn't crazy about his overall look in the slightest. That fell flat to me. Snyder said we haven't seen the last of Doomsday and he's going to evolve with more of his mythology explained so I hope they can make him better.


I was wondering about that. While he did evolve, I thought he would look more extreme, with more facial spikes, etc.


Yeah, I think Snyder didn't give us the classic Doomy because this is just a version of him. He really was Zodsday and had some of Shannon's features. He wasn't just a flesh killing monster. It was more Kryptonian;humanoid meets Kryptonian beast.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:44 am

Batman V Superman surges to 424.1 World Wide at Box Office
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:16 am

This movie has already grossed nearly half a billion dollars worldwide.

What I'm beginning to "wonder" is...could the Wonder Woman possibly make as much as the Tom Holland-Spider-Man movie? Or is that far-fetched? People are really excited for her movie, even those who don't like BvS.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:22 pm

verslibre wrote:This movie has already grossed nearly half a billion dollars worldwide.

What I'm beginning to "wonder" is...could the Wonder Woman possibly make as much as the Tom Holland-Spider-Man movie? Or is that far-fetched? People are really excited for her movie, even those who don't like BvS.


It could if it is written well.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:44 pm

verslibre wrote:Yeah, TNC! Get down to the theater so we can discuss this!

Same for Monker!


Sorry, I'm just not that interested in it. Obviously, I didn't have much faith in the concept to start with. What I am reading is very bad critical reviews, and extremely mixed audience reviews. It seems if you are a dedicated CBM fan, chances are you'll like the movie. Chances are you'll love the movie if you are a DC fan. If you are just an average person chances are you will be miffed by it and not like it much at all. If you are not so dedicated to CBM's, but still like to see them, chances are you find things you like but overall are thumbs down about it. The reviews of the people in this forum pretty much sum it up.

Keep in mind, I don't follow any comic book sites...just general word of mouth talk.

I think a lot of hype has sold the movie so far, along with the CBM and DC fans. Nobody was saying it would not be a hit, not even me. But, I doubt it will be the billion dollar move that DC probably hoped for. I think I said $700 million worldwide...I'd have to go back and look. I wish some others here would have guessed before it was released.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:51 pm

You owe it to yourself to just go see it, Monk. Walk out of there hissing at it or kill it with piss and fire if you want to, but go see it atleast once and see for yourself. I think people got to realize that Snyder/DC so far in this DCEU, doesn't make crowd pleasing films. BvS is dark and pretty somber and you're either going to REALLY take to it, or you're really not. Audience reactions for the most part, are reacting positive to the movie. One of my audiences reacted like Red Wing Fans, but my second viewing was very weird because they were loud and pumped. Left clapping. It's defintley interesting how DC continues to divide the audience.I'm fucked up because I love it lol.

I knew I was going to admire Snyder's style in not doing a movie by committee and daring to do some things that won't allow the crowd off the hook. You make a choice with these movies. Like it or hate it. The studio doesn't say "if you don't do either this, this or this" you're out.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:03 am

Monker wrote:
verslibre wrote:Yeah, TNC! Get down to the theater so we can discuss this!

Same for Monker!
The reviews of the people in this forum pretty much sum it up.


I'll admit that some of the reaction and the critical reactions worried me a whole lot.I was actually expecting to be disappointed. As big of a homer I am, I'm a poster that focus's on positive things but there were things with Man of Steel and BvS that I totally see where things can go wrong. It's really obvious too. I was relieved as all hell to walk out of there loving the movie. I didn't have that with Man of Steel. I needed 3 viewings to determine. Man of Steel is still a chore to get through. BvS I felt had better action scenes that kept you invested instead of giving you a headache. The fighting was very well done.

Other than that, Rip was a skeptic, ended up loving it. Abitman and his family loved it. RWF went in there with the lowest expectations and knew he wouldn't like it..didn't like it. TNC is one of the tough as nails critics out there and I agree with most of his stuff, but the things he compares it to jumps out to me that I disagree with.

A lot of my FB friends who literally LOATHED Man of Steel loved it as well. There were a few people that didn't like it, but on my social media's, it seems the people who didn't like Man of Steel AT ALL atleast agree that they like BvS and it's better than MoS.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:09 am

Monker wrote:
verslibre wrote:Yeah, TNC! Get down to the theater so we can discuss this!

Same for Monker!


Sorry, I'm just not that interested in it. Obviously, I didn't have much faith in the concept to start with. What I am reading is very bad critical reviews, and extremely mixed audience reviews. It seems if you are a dedicated CBM fan, chances are you'll like the movie. Chances are you'll love the movie if you are a DC fan. If you are just an average person chances are you will be miffed by it and not like it much at all. If you are not so dedicated to CBM's, but still like to see them, chances are you find things you like but overall are thumbs down about it. The reviews of the people in this forum pretty much sum it up.


4 of us dig it, 1 guy thinks it's okay, and so far, TNC's is the one generally negative review.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:55 am

This article pretty much sums up the questions I was asking as I walked out in the lobby (Warning: here there be spoilers).
I think Monker should def. see it. Failures of this magnitude don't come around often. In some respects, it reminds me of Ang Lee's Hulk - another film with highfalutin subtextual aspirations when audiences really just wanted a popcorn film.

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Deb » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:01 pm

So does Mamoa.....err I mean Aquaman, make an appearance at all in this one? I haven't seen the movie yet.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:03 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:it reminds me of Ang Lee's Hulk


I don't get how one can compare it to that film. I just saw BvS a second time, and it's 1000 times better than that.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:18 pm

verslibre wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:it reminds me of Ang Lee's Hulk


I don't get how one can compare it to that film. I just saw BvS a second time, and it's 1000 times better than that.


Pretentious script? Check.
Allusions to Oedipal complexes? Check.
Murky cgi fight sequences set at night? Check.

Actually the Lee Hulk film was more coherent, surprisingly. Among many issues I had, BvsS never explained how Lex knew that Martha was Superman's mom. If he gained that information from the Krypton ship, they did not show it. It's really just another shitty David Goyer movie, the same "mastermind" who gave us Blade 3 (the Nolan films don't count. Nolan's bro cowrote those).

If nothing else, this film will go down in history for having its villain leave behind a jar of his own piss, like some sort of Howard Hughes calling card. The filmmakers should have doubled down on this idea and had Lex leave flaming bags of dog shit outside of the Batcave and Fortress of Solitude.

Overall, I think BvsS is the biggest missed opportunity in the history of comic book movie adaptions. Wouldn't surprise me if a few people at WB end up getting fired.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:21 pm

Deb wrote:So does Mamoa.....err I mean Aquaman, make an appearance at all in this one? I haven't seen the movie yet.


Yep. A cameo. Go see it Deb :)
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:23 pm

YoungJRNYfan wrote:
Deb wrote:So does Mamoa.....err I mean Aquaman, make an appearance at all in this one? I haven't seen the movie yet.


Yep. A cameo. Go see it Deb :)

A very lame cameo Deb. Save ur money.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:31 pm

He doesn't get any more screen time that lasts longer than maybe 20 seconds, but if you see the movie, you'll understand. If you're expecting a big action role from him in this...that isn't the case. They make reference's and cameo's to show that the Justice League and Metahumans are out there in our world. I thought they did a good job with that without needing to shoehorn another long and unneeded action scene that wouldn't serve any purpose. I'm actually glad they didn't include all of the JL in a big showdown in this (like I thought.) Don't listen to TNC. Go see it. You're not the over-anaylzer when it comes to CBM's Deb and you don't have an attachment either way to look for things you may hate. You may end up liking it :lol:
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