President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Boomchild]

Frustrated refugee in Germany sets fire to his new home, police say

When a house used to shelter refugees was burned down in an arson attack last week, there seemed to be no doubt about the motives behind it. Someone had sprayed a swastika on one of the house's walls, which made investigators believe that they were dealing with right-wing extremism. Local politicians in the city of Bingen were shocked and immediately set up a pro-refugee march to advocate for tolerance.

That was before a Syrian refugee — an inhabitant of the house — reportedly confessed to the crime.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fru ... li=BBnb7Kz

[Monker]

It isn't that she's going to win, it's that she CAN'T LOSE!. No matter how many people vote against her. Of course, she and Bill will go after "tax cheating" rich people.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/617761/cl ... s-delaware

That's great! Tax cheaters should be "gone after". Funny that you think they are OK.

[Boomchild]

Since "Politically Correct" thoughts and speech are being rammed down our throats on a daily basis, I found this tidbit on the subject from George Carlin quite refreshing.

George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners..................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkhUivqzWv0

[Monker]

Since "Politically Correct" thoughts and speech are being rammed down our throats on a daily basis, I found this tidbit on the subject from George Carlin quite refreshing.

George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners..................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkhUivqzWv0

Yeah, George Carlin is awesome:

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I really haven’t seen this many people in one place since they took the group photographs of all the criminals and law-breakers in the Ronald Reagan administration. Yeah! Yeah! 225 of ’em so far! 225 different people in the Ronald Reagan administration have either quit, been fired, been arrested, indicted, or convicted of either breaking the law or violating the Ethics Code! 225 of ’em! And Edwin Meese alone… Edwin Meese alone has been investigated by three separate Special Prosecutors and there’s a fourth one waiting for him in Washington right now. Three separate Special Prosecutors have had to look into the activities of the Attorney General, and the Attorney General is the nation’s leading law enforcement officer!

See that’s what you’ve got to remember, this is the Ronald Reagan administration we’re talking about. These are the Law and Order people! These are the people who are against street crime! They want to put street criminals in jail to make life safer for the business criminals! Yeah! They’re against street crime, provided that street isn’t Wall Street.

And the Supreme Court decided about a year ago that it’s all right to put people in jail now if we just think they’re going to commit a crime. It’s called preventive detention. All you’ve got to do now is just think they’re going to commit a crime. Well if we’d known this seven or eight years ago we could have put a bunch of these Republican motherfuckers directly into prison Yeah! put ’em in the joint where they belong and we could have saved the expense of putting these pin-headed assholes on trial. Another thing you gotta remember is these are the people elected with the help of the Moral Majority. Elected with the help of the Moral Majority and — the Teamster’s Union. That’s a good combination. Organized Religion and Organized Crime working together to help build a better America.

They were going to get government off our backs. Yeah, but when it comes to abortion they don’t mind government being in a woman’s uterus, do they? Yeah, backs are no good, but uterus is ok by them. These people call themselves Right to Lifers. Don’t you love that phrase, and don’t you love the way these kind of people pervert the English language? Right to Lifers? Don’t you realize that most of the Right to Lifers are in favor of the death penalty, and they support the South American death squads, and they’re against gun control, and they’re against nuclear weapons control. When they say Right to Life they’re talking about their right to decide which people should live or die.

So these right-wingers, you know, so these Reagan people, these right-wingers in general, these crypto-Fascists, they’re against homosexuality, they’re against pornography, they’re against sex education, they’re against abortion, yeah they’re going to get government off your back but they’re going to tell you how to live your sex life. And let me ask you this, how would they know anything about it? Have you ever taken a look at those people? No wonder they’re afraid of their bodies, take a look at ’em! Doesn’t it strike as mildly ironic that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn’t want to fuck in the first place?

Hey, I’m the first one to say it’s a great country, but it’s a stra-a-ange culture. We got a strange culture. … This is a country where tobacco kills 400,000 people a year — so they ban artifical sweeteners! Because a rat died! Know what I mean? This is a place where gun store owners are given a list of stolen credit cards, but not a list of criminals and maniacs! And now they’re thinking about banning toys guns, and they’re going to keep the fucking real ones!! This is a place where alcohol ruins more lives than cancer, and everybody gets upset when some athlete gets hooked on cocaine. You know Time Magazine and Newsweek put cocaine on the cover, but they put the liquor advertisements inside the magazine.

It’s the old American double standard, you know say one thing and do something different. And of course the country is founded on the double standard, that’s our history, we were founded on a very basic double standard. This country was founded by slave owners who wanted to be free. Am I right? A group of slave owners who wanted to be free. So they killed a lot of white English people, in order to continue owning their black African people, so they could wipe out the rest of the red Indian people, and move west and steal the rest of the land from the brown Mexican people, giving them a place to take off and drop their nuclear weapons on the yellow Japanese people. You know what the motto of this country ought to be? You give us a color, we’ll wipe it out!

[Boomchild]

Yeah, George Carlin is awesome:

You got that right. He was unbiased when it comes to political motivated bullshit.

[Boomchild]

Oh that Eric Schneiderman. What a guy.......

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/04/ ... nents.html

The Freedom of Information Act is a bitch.

[Boomchild]

[scarab]

how do we get none of the above on the ballot? I am sure it would win.

[Memorex]

how do we get none of the above on the ballot? I am sure it would win.

Do you have $30 million that you have to spend over the next 30 days?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Democratic strategist Harlan Hill told Neil Cavuto today that up to 40% of Bernie Sanders supporters will cross over to Donald Trump if Bernie is eliminated.

Harlan Hill: Almost 40% of Bernie Sanders supporters say they will not support Hillary Clinton in the general election. And I expect that number to grow.

Neil Cavuto: Alright, will where will they go?

Harlan Hill: Well, I think they will either stay home or they will cross over.

Neil Cavuto: Who will they cross over to?

Harlan Hill: Donald Trump. That’s it. They’re not going to vote for Ted Cruz… I think that there is common ground that if Donald Trump plays his cards right he could appeal to a lot of Democrats.

I think some Berners will just write in Sanders name or vote Green Party. If Gary Johnson gets the Lib Party nom, he may get a few votes too. As a liberal, I will not vote for Hillary under any circumstances.

[Boomchild]

More JOY predicted for 2017 Healthcare.

http://www.investors.com/politics/edito ... -one-week/

Ah yes....All going according to plan.

[Boomchild]

Wow. Trump really cleaned Cruz's clock in yesterdays primaries.

[Boomchild]

Wow. Trump really cleaned Cruz's clock in yesterdays primaries.

It also is starting to look like Sanders will lay down for Clinton. I thought he might break off third party since he really should be running as a socialist. His people know he never stood a chance in the first place. We'll see what happens to Trump, but if the Republican Party screws him like the Democrats did Sanders, that will pretty much be the end of the Republican Party. Not Conservatives, just the Party. This is a very interesting election. This is also my opinion.

It has been the most interesting election that I have seen. Whether you like or don't like Trump, it's clear that people on mass are fed up with establishment politicians. It seems clear to me that the majority of Republican voters want a non establishment candidate.

[Boomchild]

[Monker]

Wow. Trump really cleaned Cruz's clock in yesterdays primaries.

It also is starting to look like Sanders will lay down for Clinton. I thought he might break off third party since he really should be running as a socialist. His people know he never stood a chance in the first place. We'll see what happens to Trump, but if the Republican Party screws him like the Democrats did Sanders, that will pretty much be the end of the Republican Party. Not Conservatives, just the Party. This is a very interesting election. This is also my opinion.

The conservative movement that Reagan started is over with the nomination of Trump. Trump isn't a conservative...very far from it. Trump represents the same radical factions of the party that nominated Christine O'Donnell. It doesn't matter if he can win or not...the point is to display rebellion.

When he loses in a landslide to Clinton and Republicans lose all the gains they made in the congress over hast few cycles, I wonder what people like you will say then.

I said a long time ago that Sanders would stay in the race to influence the convention and party. I thought it would start sooner, but to his credit he did well in NH and some of the states that followed. You are way too naive to think that he would ever run third party. He knows what a disaster Trump or Cruz would be as President.

[Monker]

What you didn't address is, Sanders voters now figured out they never had a chance, even though if you take away Hillary's "Super Deligates", they are pretty much tied.

This is simply not true and it shows your ignorance. Not counting super delegates: Clinton - 1645, Sanders 1204.

441 delegates is not "close to a tie" at all.

Sanders had a 'chance' and it played out fair. In the end Sanders will endorse Clinton and speak at the convention and bring as many of his supporters along as he can. Clinton is already reaching out to them. You injecting anger is wishful thinking.

Hillary knew she won before it started.

Up until NH, you may be right. After NH, I think she took Sanders much more seriously and she is better off for it...Just as Obama was better off for having Clinton challenge him. That's politics.

Who says Sanders voters won't sit home and pout like the Paultards did. Ron Paul is the main reason Obama got two terms. The Paultards stayed home

Make up your mind. I thought it was because Romney was a RINO. You guys are full of excuses for your shitty politics. Romney lost because of the 48% comment and Obama was a far more diversified candidate. Until Republicans stop catering to old white men, they will consistently lose the Presidency....and that is exactly who Trump caters to. Even the chairman of the RNC knows they need to change this strategy.

Besides, it's the RNC who rewrote the rules to cut off Ron Paul's chances...that's where the blame lies.

I see alot of Sanders voters acting the same way. I've also seen alot of them on the news saying they'll vote for Trump before Hillary.I have a friend who is a actor and lives in L.A. I talked to him about three weeks ago. He's always been a "greennie far left tree hugging liberal", his words, all his life. He refered to Hillary as a "dishonest,lying C--t". He said he'll either vote for Trump or not vote at all if Sanders loses. There's alot in Hollywood who feel the same way. I said from the beginning, the DNC would never allow Hillary to lose.

Talk is cheap. Sure, there will be some who defect or stay home. Some Republicans will stay home because Trump is an ass, a RINO, and the most liberal candidate they have nominated in decades. That affect will either wash out with no advantage to anybody, or Republicans will lose more because of how devisive Trump is.

And, I'll Cruz hasn't given up yet. The RNC may still find a way to nominate someone else....or they may simply write off this election a unwinnable and wait until next year to start attempting to fix the damage Trump did to the party. Good luck with that.

[The_Noble_Cause]

This is simply not true and it shows your ignorance. Not counting super delegates: Clinton - 1645, Sanders 1204.

441 delegates is not "close to a tie" at all.

Sanders had a 'chance' and it played out fair. In the end Sanders will endorse Clinton and speak at the convention and bring as many of his supporters along as he can. Clinton is already reaching out to them. You injecting anger is wishful thinking.

It ain't over til it's over. We still have California coming right up! Any further wins may be symbolic due to the delegate math. But guess what? The FBI investigation is not symbolic, it's very much real and ongoing. Anybody who has taken a look at the facts knows the truth: Hillary engaged in espionage. Let's see what happens. Ultimately, Bernie's campaign, win or lose, is a game changer. He proved that you can run a major national campaign without being on the take.

[steveo777]

This is simply not true and it shows your ignorance. Not counting super delegates: Clinton - 1645, Sanders 1204.

441 delegates is not "close to a tie" at all.

Sanders had a 'chance' and it played out fair. In the end Sanders will endorse Clinton and speak at the convention and bring as many of his supporters along as he can. Clinton is already reaching out to them. You injecting anger is wishful thinking.

It ain't over til it's over. We still have California coming right up! Any further wins may be symbolic due to the delegate math. But guess what? The FBI investigation is not symbolic, it's very much real and ongoing. Anybody who has taken a look at the facts knows the truth: Hillary engaged in espionage. Let's see what happens. Ultimately, Bernie's campaign, win or lose, is a game changer. He proved that you can run a major national campaign without being on the take.

TNC, what you just said is exactly why Sanders stays in the race. He has the funds to do so and he senses that Hillary could have problems coming at her because of the FBI investigation. If / when she gets indicted, she becomes unelectable. The Bern isn't coming right out and saying this, but you have to know he's thinking it.

[Monker]

I will admit I didn't check out the count after the last five elections

It has NEVER been a virtual tie. You are simply making shit up.

Sanders was going to lose from the start by hook or crook. Get it? Again, the DNC won't allow Clinton to lose. I've always thought and said that Obama won because Paultards stayed home and pouted. I voted for Romney just like I'll vote for Trump, holding my nose once again because it's better then the other side. Don't put words in my mouth. I was pissed at Romney because after the first debate when Obama got schooled, he let the Mod's run over him and didn't call Obama on his lies. He just stood there, that cost him. If Trump does win, and does not get the nomination, I won't vote. I hope Cruz can make a huge come back and get within 100 of Trump, but I doubt it.

Nothing is worse than Trump. You could vote for the Nazi party and would have cast a better vote.

Not too long ago you and FF went on and on about how the party has lost the last few elections because they keep nominating people who are not true conservatives. You change your mind as often as Trump does.

Cruz is not popular among the "establishment"....so, I would not guarantee that he gets the nomination if nobody wins on the first ballot. Nobody really knows what will happen. Angry Trump people, angry Cruz people, angry establishment people. The Republican party is a disaster. Priebus and Ryan may let Trump get it just to save the party...even if they know it means losing the election and congress.

[Monker]

This is simply not true and it shows your ignorance. Not counting super delegates: Clinton - 1645, Sanders 1204.

441 delegates is not "close to a tie" at all.

Sanders had a 'chance' and it played out fair. In the end Sanders will endorse Clinton and speak at the convention and bring as many of his supporters along as he can. Clinton is already reaching out to them. You injecting anger is wishful thinking.

It ain't over til it's over. We still have California coming right up! Any further wins may be symbolic due to the delegate math. But guess what? The FBI investigation is not symbolic, it's very much real and ongoing. Anybody who has taken a look at the facts knows the truth: Hillary engaged in espionage. Let's see what happens. Ultimately, Bernie's campaign, win or lose, is a game changer. He proved that you can run a major national campaign without being on the take.

If there was enough evidence to indict Clinton, it would have happened a year ago. It's simply not going to happen.

[steveo777]

This is simply not true and it shows your ignorance. Not counting super delegates: Clinton - 1645, Sanders 1204.

441 delegates is not "close to a tie" at all.

Sanders had a 'chance' and it played out fair. In the end Sanders will endorse Clinton and speak at the convention and bring as many of his supporters along as he can. Clinton is already reaching out to them. You injecting anger is wishful thinking.

It ain't over til it's over. We still have California coming right up! Any further wins may be symbolic due to the delegate math. But guess what? The FBI investigation is not symbolic, it's very much real and ongoing. Anybody who has taken a look at the facts knows the truth: Hillary engaged in espionage. Let's see what happens. Ultimately, Bernie's campaign, win or lose, is a game changer. He proved that you can run a major national campaign without being on the take.

If there was enough evidence to indict Clinton, it would have happened a year ago. It's simply not going to happen.

Investigations of this magnitude take time. There are over 140 agents working on it and I'm sure there are lots of devils in the details. When someone of this high profile is under scrutiny, they have to get it right. There's only one shot and they are not going to refer it to the DOJ for an indictment until they are 100% certain that they have an iron clad case. That would be irresponsible and reckless, hence the amount of time it's taking. The scope of the investigation is not just the emails. It's much broader than that, including the Clinton Foundation, foreign transactions, possible quid pro quo violations, etc. I know they say loose lips sink ships, but I drink beer every now and then with a retired FBI agent, who knows a few things about the case, but won't give me any specifics, other than say she will be held accountable.

[The_Noble_Cause]

If there was enough evidence to indict Clinton, it would have happened a year ago. It's simply not going to happen.

Really? Is that why Hillary's IT specialist is refusing to testify even AFTER being granted immunity? You better start watching something besides Rachel Maddow. You were also on here parroting the lie that her emails were retroactively classified, which is totally false. Much like the claim that Colin Powell did it too. WRONG. No government official, especially one entrusted with state secrets, has their own personal server in their basement. A vote for Hillary is a vote for a spy.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Good luck with that, but I think Sanders has about the same chance of winning as a WWE wrestler who is scripted to lose. Hillary can't lose. She never could.

I'm not saying he is still going to win. Short of a miracle, he will not. But you know what? He's raising more money than Hillary on her best day. He is raising bigger crowds than Hillary. So fuck it. He should stay in there as long as he can. Keep the rallies going even after the election. Who gives a shit.

[Boomchild]

I hope Cruz can make a huge come back and get within 100 of Trump, but I doubt it.

If Cruz gets the nomination, it will be over before the election in Nov. for the Republicans.

[Boomchild]

TNC, what you just said is exactly why Sanders stays in the race. He has the funds to do so and he senses that Hillary could have problems coming at her because of the FBI investigation. If / when she gets indicted, she becomes unelectable. The Bern isn't coming right out and saying this, but you have to know he's thinking it.

As far as the FBI investigation goes, the DOJ would have to file charges on Hillary prior to the election. That is, IF they even do so. With the slow pace of the investigation I don't know how likely that would be.

[Boomchild]

No government official, especially one entrusted with state secrets, has their own personal server in their basement. A vote for Hillary is a vote for a spy.

Now that's a good one.

[Boomchild]

[The_Noble_Cause]

No government official, especially one entrusted with state secrets, has their own personal server in their basement. A vote for Hillary is a vote for a spy.

Now that's a good one.

How so? You think it's typical behavior?

[Boomchild]

I hope Cruz can make a huge come back and get within 100 of Trump, but I doubt it.

If Cruz gets the nomination, it will be over before the election in Nov. for the Republicans.

It's over for Republicans anyway or Bush would have won. Trump and Cruz, even though they are running republican, aren't. Cruz is as tea party as it gets. Even Boehner sobbered up enough yesterday to bitch about Cruz.

Cruz has ZERO chance of beating Hillary if he gets the nomination.

[steveo777]

So, what kind of jam shall we have on our Cruz toast? He's history and Trump is the nominee by Cruz dropping out.