DC Extended Universe THREAD

[YoungJRNYfan]

Chris Terrio already said months before BvS's release that Man of Steel-Justice League is one big saga. 3 parts.

SCREENWRITER CALLS MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN V SUPERMAN AND JUSTICE LEAGUE 'ONE SAGA
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03/12/ ... e-one-saga

MoS/BvS/JL is Snyder's Trilogy. Snyder said they still have the date planned for another Justice League film, but it won't be brokin' into 2 parts of the same story. Justice League will be the standalone film and the whole story will be told in one movie. This leaves Justice League sequels, not parts. Two different things.

It's going to be interesting to see where Snyder lands after Justice League. George Miller is already highly touted to take over a DCEU film and his name has been thrown around numerous times and Justice League 2 could go to a director of his caliber.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Batman V. Superman Ultimate Edition Getting Limited Theatrical Release
http://comicbook.com/2016/06/22/batman- ... trical-re/

[verslibre]

2 hours away. Bummer. Nice gesture of Zack & WB to show it gratis.

[The_Noble_Cause]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/75510

There’s no “Part One” in the logo Ben Affleck tweeted because Warner Bros. has apparently scrapped “Part Two” -- despite the fact that Warner Bros. still has “Justice League Part Two” slated for June 14, 2019.

“We were only ever planning and we are only doing just 'Justice League.' One movie,” “Justice League” producer Deb Snyder told this weekend’s assemblage of nerd press.

“So no two parts?” somebody asked.

“No,” replied Snyder.

HowbutWHAT?

So why does a “Part One” and a “Part Two” still occupy the Warner Bros. release calendar? And why have they been on that slate so long if the Snyders have only “ever” been planning one?

Does this mean Deb’s husband Zack is exiting the franchise following “Man of Steel,” “Batman V Superman” and “Justice League”?

Stay tuned

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No surprise here. Just like Man of Steel 2 being on hold indefinitely.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Critic, Devin Faraci, (who YoungJrny and Vers bashed for giving his honest opinion of the lousy Batman Vs Superman), was invited to the set of Justice League. Not surprisingly, the entire production team seems to be in mea culpa mode regarding BsS. Anyway, I thought this was a well-written piece with lots of info for DC and movie fans.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/21/ ... league-set

[YoungJRNYfan]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/75510

There’s no “Part One” in the logo Ben Affleck tweeted because Warner Bros. has apparently scrapped “Part Two” -- despite the fact that Warner Bros. still has “Justice League Part Two” slated for June 14, 2019.

“We were only ever planning and we are only doing just 'Justice League.' One movie,” “Justice League” producer Deb Snyder told this weekend’s assemblage of nerd press.

“So no two parts?” somebody asked.

“No,” replied Snyder.

HowbutWHAT?

So why does a “Part One” and a “Part Two” still occupy the Warner Bros. release calendar? And why have they been on that slate so long if the Snyders have only “ever” been planning one?

Does this mean Deb’s husband Zack is exiting the franchise following “Man of Steel,” “Batman V Superman” and “Justice League”?

Stay tuned

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No surprise here. Just like Man of Steel 2 being on hold indefinitely.

Let's add another $50 to the bet. Both movies (Superman solo; JL2) will get made.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Critic, Devin Faraci, (who YoungJrny and Vers bashed for giving his honest opinion of the lousy Batman Vs Superman), was invited to the set of Justice League. Not surprisingly, the entire production team seems to be in mea culpa mode regarding BsS. Anyway, I thought this was a well-written piece with lots of info for DC and movie fans.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/21/ ... league-set

An honest opinion with that estrogen fueled dick head would actually get me to respect the guy. I never once bashed Feraci by giving his honest opinion on a film. Unfortunately, for every good piece the dude writes is overshadowed by the rotten personality he chooses to display. Fuck that guy. Watch his tune change now that WB is licking his asshole. He actually got invited to something, which plays a huge role in critical bias. Just watch. There's 10 other scoopers who got invited to the set who offer the same type of news DC provided them so I'll spend my clicks elsewhere.

[The_Noble_Cause]

An honest opinion with that estrogen fueled dick head would actually get me to respect the guy. I never once bashed Feraci by giving his honest opinion on a film. Unfortunately, for every good piece the dude writes is overshadowed by the rotten personality he chooses to display. Fuck that guy. Watch his tune change now that WB is licking his asshole. He actually got invited to something, which plays a huge role in critical bias. Just watch. There's 10 other scoopers who got invited to the set who offer the same type of news DC provided them so I'll spend my clicks elsewhere.

It's not Devin F who is changing his tune. Throughout the piece, Dev stands by and repeats all of the issues he had with Batman versus Superman. It's Warner Brothers who, in your own words, is now forced to "lick asshole" and practically grovel and throw themselves in front of the film's toughest critics.

[YoungJRNYfan]

No doubt about it. Of course Feraci won't change his tune on his furious dick rash he got off on when it came time to put BvS 6 ft under. Every chance he gets, without question, he'll make a dig at BvS. That won't change. His jaded and spiteful nature towards DC was well known way before BvS hit. He gleaned and jumped for joy the moment he heard his fellow colleagues were going to trash BvS critically. He took aim at the fans after the fact and took honor in rage wars against them. As I said before, there's truth to many of his articles and they are well written like you say, but it only goes so far. He takes pride in being the villain and he basically insults his readers intelligence by taking on a trolling moniker. He's just a ridiculous personality. Now that WB is sucking up (which is what every critic wants. More real scoops reported, the more their ego inflates and credibility is governed) lets watch how the critics tune will change. They might not be glowing in their reviews, but they won't bite as hard.

[verslibre]

No surprise here. Just like Man of Steel 2 being on hold indefinitely.

There are little things here and there that do point to MoS2 being in development.

[verslibre]

No doubt about it. Of course Feraci won't change his tune on his furious dick rash he got off on when it came time to put BvS 6 ft under. Every chance he gets, without question, he'll make a dig at BvS. That won't change. His jaded and spiteful nature towards DC was well known way before BvS hit. He gleaned and jumped for joy the moment he heard his fellow colleagues were going to trash BvS critically. He took aim at the fans after the fact and took honor in rage wars against them. As I said before, there's truth to many of his articles and they are well written like you say, but it only goes so far. He takes pride in being the villain and he basically insults his readers intelligence by taking on a trolling moniker. He's just a ridiculous personality. Now that WB is sucking up (which is what every critic wants. More real scoops reported, the more their ego inflates and credibility is governed) lets watch how the critics tune will change. They might not be glowing in their reviews, but they won't bite as hard.

Fartaci's article is worth the read, but he's not saying anything different that JoBlo and the others haven't covered.

The guy really needs to lay off the "BvS blows!" rhetoric every other paragraph, though. Notice it didn't stop him from posing and flashing gang signs next to the new Batmobile, though. That grey beard really makes him look gangsta.

[verslibre]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/caught-off-guard-by-batman-v-superman-reaction-snyders-ready-to-blow-the-doors-off-with-justice-league

'Caught Off-Guard' By "Batman V Superman" Reaction, Snyder's Ready to 'Blow the Doors Off' with "Justice League"

[The conversation started with Snyder discussing the motivation of showing the Barry Allen/Bruce Wayne scene to press, and whether or not it was to illustrate that the film is lighter in tone.]

Zack Snyder: Well, also because it's one of the first scenes we have done, so I thought it would be cool to show. But I do think it shows a little bit about what Ezra brings to the movie. You know, Batman's Batman. I think Bruce Wayne has this kind of Batman humor -- you could say he's the straight guy, you know? It's what he's good at. When I saw the scene -- we just cut it together the other day -- I was like, "Oh God, this is fun." This is an interesting way of understanding how the movies have gone in a progression. By no means is this the whole movie. There are parts of the movie, of course, where they're facing enemies and they have to get their stuff together. Look at the Batmobile, for god's sake. You know, they're going to be drawn into conflict. But I think the "Magnificent Seven" aspect of the movie, the team-building part of the movie -- you guys know I'm a fan of "Magnificent Seven" and team-making movies. It's fun for me to finally get to this point now in the progression of these three movies where we are building a team and making the Justice League.

You want to make a different movie from "Batman v Superman?"

Well, yes. I would say that to me it's like, again, this evolution. "Batman v Superman" -- I've told you guys, we talked about how we got Batman in the movie, the whole story of, "Who's he gonna fight?" You know, we fought Zod; that's pretty much an alien. Who does he fight next? What do you do? I was with Chris Nolan, and the first idea we had was, "Oh, you know, we'll just show Kryptonite being delivered to Bruce Wayne's house at the end of the movie." I thought, "Oh, that's kinda cool. Huh..." Once we said in the room, "Let's get Batman. What if he fought Batman?" then it's hard to go back. You can't take that away. You can't go, "Oh, you know who else is cool to fight? This guy." Once you say "Batman" out loud, it's gonna be Batman.

I haven't seen anything so far with Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. Any chance that he's back at all for this? Is he a presence?

Well, I think that that's a little bit of a spoiler, but I think that Jesse's amazing and hilarious and fun. I mean, he's in prison, so who knows? Prisons in the comic book world are pretty porous places, you know? [Laughs]

When you started "BvS," obviously "Justice League" was coming, and you had this whole slate of other movies that were coming. So there's a vision that you have to have for the whole thing, but at the same time, you want to pay attention to what their reactions are. So how does the audience reaction and critical reaction of "BvS" inform you as you come to "Justice League?"

I mean, listen, if it's about putting more fun in the movie or embracing some of the more, what I would call -- I think it's in all the characters inherently, sort of this larger-than-life, big, fun stuff, especially when you're dealing with the Justice League. With [Jason] Momoa, when you see the way that he's interacting with the group, even just in his Jason-ness, the contrast to Ben and to Gal is really interesting and fun.

And just to finish my idea, what I was going to say about the "Batman versus Superman" concept, is that inherently, also, you've got to remember the whole thread of that was to draw those two into conflict. I felt like they were both evolving, in mind anyway. I wanted to get to a Superman that had a reason to be Superman, like a reason to feel the way he felt about humanity, that we all understand from the comic books -- as far as a moral compass goes, he's pretty much the thing. But I feel like he had to go through something to be that. And I'm not saying he shows up in this movie...

But wait, you very consciously ended "BvS" with the dirt moving.

Yes, very consciously!

And he's been absent today. So what can you tell us?

I mean, there's a process, clearly, that would have to go on in the --

How's his hair when he gets back?

[Laughs] Should be perfect. A little longer, I guess! That's what the myths are anyway.

Is he not supposed to be a part of this stage of it?

I guess that's part of the story. If he does appear, I think that that would be a big part of the story, right?

With the extended cut of "Batman v Superman" on the way, will we get more of an idea of how that will translate into "Justice League" and maybe even an idea of how Superman might come back in "Justice League?"

It's been a while since I've seen it -- I don't know if there's anything that's directly related to that concept, but I think there's other stuff. There's other -- well, you'll see.

My point is only that, as far as the idea of drawing Superman and Batman in conflict meant that you really had to dig down into the darker parts of them to make them fight each other. And I really do believe that with this movie, with "Justice League," they've both been freed of the shackles of that, the responsibility to be in a place where they would fight each other. I think that is liberating for us in some ways in making the movie, because really now we have a single enemy with a single objective, and it's really about uniting the team. That, to me, is a fun activity.

Have you had all the Justice League members on the set at the same time, so far?

We've had almost all of them together.

What was it like?

It was super cool! It was really fun. We did have a big sequence where they had to "make the plan." I won't say what it was. It was pretty fun.

Is the second "Justice League" movie still tethered to this? Is that something that you still plan to direct? It was sort of announced early on in a shareholders meeting, but it sounds like they're closing that off for now?

I think we still have a release date.

This isn't "Part 1" though? You're not looking at it as a part one?

Oh, it is a complete movie. I mean, of course there's --

It's not going to end on a big cliffhanger?

Hopefully there's some reason to go -- the movie doesn't end and you go, "OK, well that's the DC Universe!"

There's always extraordinary pressure making any movie, but particularly on this one, there have been reports that you're under more corporate pressure than normal. Has this been a more difficult film for you than you would have hoped?

I don't think so. I would just say that, for me, "Batman v Superman," I think there is a slight misconception about the shooting, anyway, about how much pressure there was on us and the pressure on the movie to perform in a certain way. From my point of view, and maybe just because I don't know how to do it any other way, we make really personal movies. For me, anyway, I love the characters. I love comic books -- maybe to a fault sometimes. Like, I dork out on these hardcore aspects of the comic books, because I'm a grown-up and I love that part of it. I had a great time making the movie, and I don't think that Warner Bros., when we were shooting the movie, that there was some sort of corporate mandate to get Batman and Superman in the movie. Chris and I kind of had that idea, and then it just so happened that that was a way toward "Justice League" -- and it came along at a great time for us, as the studio was moving forward with the other DC titles and getting the DCU to exist. But I don't think the birth of "Batman v Superman" was like some corporate conspiracy to sell tickets, or do whatever. I think it just became this great vehicle that had a lot of focus put on it because of where it ended up in the timeline, you know?

But I think the studio's been amazing with me, and they are a filmmaker-driven studio. They don't really do a ton of things by committee. It's just been a great experience with them as a studio. But for me, it's been amazingly rewarding to work with these characters, because I just love stuff. I love the material, and for me it is personal, a really personal movie. You know, when "Batman v Superman" first came out, I was like, "Wow, OK, woof." It did catch me off-guard. I kind of felt like -- and I have had to, in my mind, make an adjustment, and maybe it is my hardcore take on characters as far as I love 'em, and I love the material. I do, I take it really deep. So I think the nice thing about working on "Justice League" is that it is an opportunity to really blow the doors off of the scale and the bad guys and team-building and all the stuff that I think I could justify as a big, modern comic book movie, if that makes any sense.

Will it be "hardcore?"

I mean, when I say "hardcore," I mean sort of canon hardcore, you know? And I would say, yes, we have treated these characters, especially now as we have evolved them into the team, I think we've pushed them a lot more toward what I would consider more the sort of iconic... because that, frankly, was what the evolution was. Not to give anything away or say anything that would be too telling of where we're headed with the movie, but death is darker than, say, resurrection or team-building. It's just a darker concept, like when you're dealing with "Dark Knight [Returns]" or "Death of Superman," those kinds of ideas. As opposed to, "Oh, let's build a team and fight the bad guy!" It's a different energy.

So you're consciously changing the tone this time?

Yeah, I mean, I think I'm obsessed with tone in the movies. Tone has always been the main thing that I go after with a movie, and I really wanted the tone of the three movies to be different chapters and not be the same note that you strike like, "OK, there's this again." I really wanted that, and I do believe that since "Batman v Superman" came out and we've wrapped our heads around what "Justice League" would be, I do think that the tone has, because of what fans have said and how the movie was received by some, is that we have kind of put the screws to what we thought the tone would be and I feel crushed it that little bit further.

So, closer to your "Dawn of the Dead?"

No, no! I think "Dawn of the Dead" -- well, I mean, look, I love "Dawn," but I think the tone of "Dawn" is very hardcore satire, you know? Not that I don't take the Romero movies super seriously and zombies super seriously, because I do -- but I do take this stuff, I probably have more reverence toward this kind of material than I would, say, a zombie film, because I feel like the social commentary and what it means, it's a different conversation.

Batman starts off in this movie like he has a renewed faith in humanity. At the same time, he's facing a huge new threat. How, when you're telling that story, do you balance Batman trying to have faith -- he doesn't hit Luthor with the brand at the end -- but he's facing demons?

I feel like that's the whole thing of him building the team. I feel like the threat and the idea of building the team as a guy who's been a loner his whole career -- that was kind of the other thing when we were making "Batman v Superman." I was really conscious of this idea of -- and I talked to Ben about it -- how can we not be stuck with this single-note Batman. What do we do? And we talked long and hard about, "OK, in 'Batman v Superman' he's here. He's at the end of his career, and he's down here, and he's seen this thing that now he wonders what his relevance is, and maybe he can do this one thing." And then the example of Superman makes him go, "No, you know what? I'm not done. I've got more to do. I've got to persevere and make it right." And that's the Batman you get now at the beginning of "Justice League." He's on a mission, and he's really clearheaded about the mission and about the others that he'll need to complete it.

Can you talk about working with Geoff Johns?

Yeah, Geoff and I have had a great working relationship, even on "Batman v Superman," and on "Wonder Woman" we worked together really closely, and we have a project coming up that we want to do together... I can't talk about that. His knowledge of comics is just crazy. He's like an encyclopedia of comic books. I'll be like, "Hey, is there a weird Lantern from… ?" and he'll be like, "You know..." He's just amazing about keeping everything in canon that I've not even heard of; like, we'll look through some archive.

This film looks like it's going to be a bit more fun and funnier, but one of the things I love about Man of Steel is the crazy and weird opening on Krypton, and it looks like you're going back to some weird stuff with the boxes and demons.

You know, [Jack] Kirby's crazy in a great way, and there's a lot of influence, you know, the New Gods stuff, we were digging on that -- and that's the Mother Boxes and that sort of Apokoliptian world and all that. I don't know if I can call it "weird." [Laughs]

Larger than life?

Larger than life! Very nice, thank you. Yeah, but the kinda scope-y, sci-fi, cool, what I think is fun stuff. I think inherently when you start to talk about a bad guy that would justify the Justice League, you have to have a good threat that's fun and kinda crazy. And the Mother Boxes are always fun, DC-weird tech, you know?

That deleted scene from "BvS" that was released the Monday after, did you deliberately put it out there to sow the seeds for "Justice League?" Most of us are used to getting deleted scenes on a Blu-ray.

I kind thought like, "Oh, that would be a cool after-credits sequence." But then I was like, "I don't know, can I do that?" Because Marvel does that. "Is that a thing?" So we were like, "Oh! Well, maybe there's another way to do it."

[The_Noble_Cause]

There are little things here and there that do point to MoS2 being in development.

If it was really happening, you wouldn't have to search for proof of its existence like a cinematic version of Sasquatch or something. Nobody is left wondering if Batman will get his own film. It's actively happening. As I said all along, if a Man of Steel 2 would have been successful, they would not have added Batman into the mix. Batman vs. Superman was a desperate Hail Mary pass to get the DC Cinematic Universe up and running and it failed. If it was a success, Snyder and co. would not be going on an apology tour and inviting film critics on junkets.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Cavill did a recent interview saying his contract is up after Justice League. He signed a 3 film contract (which is the norm) starting with Man of Steel; Batman V Superman and Justice League. He said how he can't wait to do more films and is going to play the character for a long time.

It's contractually forbidden to announce such a thing when Cavill still got one more film to finish before honoring his second round of negotiations for a new contract. We know all about The Batman and Affleck's involvement because BvS was his first film of a multi -year deal, so it can be talked about.

Once JL finishes filming, I bet the MOS2 and a Superman solo will be more out there (it's been popping up here and there as something as in development by the studio) and when Henry signs his second contract.

And nothing is a failure. If MoS is a failure, BvS wouldn't have happened. They would have rebooted from there. They didn't. They decided to go for it and announce BvS only 30 days into release. Nothing is failing. Adjustments are being made for the better. Gear up for the DCEU. It's not going anywhere. It'll catch steam.

[RedWingFan]

Gear up for the DCEU. It's not going anywhere. It'll catch steam.

I thought You said BvS was going to light the fire. If SS underperforms you're going to see a lot more changes to the schedule.

[verslibre]

Look at it this way.

BvS outgrossed every CBM released by Fox/Universal/Columbia, every Amazing/Spider-Man film by Sony — minus Spider-Man 3 — and every MCU film save Iron Man 3 and the three Avengers films (because Civil War is an Avengers film, no ifs, ands or buts about it).

Not bad for a "divisive" movie.

Every forum out there is lit up with Snyder-JL talk today.

[verslibre]

There are little things here and there that do point to MoS2 being in development.

If it was really happening, you wouldn't have to search for proof of its existence like a cinematic version of Sasquatch or something. Nobody is left wondering if Batman will get his own film. It's actively happening. As I said all along, if a Man of Steel 2 would have been successful, they would not have added Batman into the mix. Batman vs. Superman was a desperate Hail Mary pass to get the DC Cinematic Universe up and running and it failed. If it was a success, Snyder and co. would not be going on an apology tour and inviting film critics on junkets.

Man of Steel had to burn off the legacy of Singer's limp-dicked reboot attempt, too.

X-Men: Apocalypse has seriously underperformed in its first month of release, yet for some bizarre reason, that keeps getting glossed over in a don't-worry-we-got-your-back sort of way.

[YoungJRNYfan]

BvS lit a ton of fire. Just like MoS, BvS continues to dominate the social media aspect of things. It's not dying down and the recent JL news is exciting. The Ultimate Cut for BvS I believe leaked for a day and people who saw it reacted very positive to it so people will be talking about that soon.

Suicide Squad has much lower expectation so I expect it to perform as it should, especially since rumors of a SSQ sequel is already in the works. We shall see.

[verslibre]

I thought You said BvS was going to light the fire.

It has. People cannot stop talking about MoS, BvS, JL and Zack Snyder.

[The_Noble_Cause]

X-Men: Apocalypse has seriously underperformed in its first month of release, yet for some bizarre reason, that keeps getting glossed over in a don't-worry-we-got-your-back sort of way.

Much less at stake. DC was counting on BvS and it received an even less positive reaction than MOS.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Once JL finishes filming, I bet the MOS2 and a Superman solo will be more out there (it's been popping up here and there as something as in development by the studio) and when Henry signs his second contract..

If you guys were men of your word, you would already have paid me for the bet you lost. Superman will never have another solo movie until they reboot the character again. That much is obvious.

[verslibre]

Justice League-intensive discussion on DC Movies Talk this week, of course. I agree with the crew in that it's a good thing the Green Lanterns will not be a part of this movie. They'll come in down the line when Darkseid poses a threat.

(And more MoS2 speculation.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=119bZDE3CFM&app=desktop

[YoungJRNYfan]

Justice League: Steppenwolf/ Darkseid's Parademons
Justice League 2: Darkseid
Man of Steel 2 (Superman solo): Brainiac/ Lex Luthor


Fans have LONG cried for Brainiac to be featured in a Superman film. He's so overdue that it's disgusting. Snyder even mentioned Brainiac before. There will be a MoS2 and I predict it will be Brainiac and the Bottle City of Kandor, bringing Kara (Supergirl) out of hiding (remember the open pod in MoS?)

The stress beacon in the Kryptonian scoutship bringing Zod to Earth is only the beginning. Lex's overhaul of the scout ship is in communication with thousands of other world's that includes Apokolips. Lex and Brainiac are always tied to one another in the comics. You heard it here first.

[verslibre]

^SCOOP!!!

Looks like Mikey of DCMN called it early on Vulko, too!

[Deb]

Looks like James Wan has another winner with The Conjuring 2. I bet he's cooking up some good stuff for Aquaman.

Glad Wan's now getting his due. From Saw 1 to Dead Silence to Death Sentence, this guy has been very under-appreciated. I think Aquaman is going to blow people away.

I will third that! Momoa is going to do a killer job as Aquaman, him and Amber Heard have been the only ones I have seen cast so far.

[RedWingFan]

Looks like James Wan has another winner with The Conjuring 2. I bet he's cooking up some good stuff for Aquaman.

Glad Wan's now getting his due. From Saw 1 to Dead Silence to Death Sentence, this guy has been very under-appreciated. I think Aquaman is going to blow people away.

I will third that! Momoa is going to do a killer job as Aquaman, him and Amber Heard have been the only ones I have seen cast so far.

Amber Heard is the hottest chick in the history of chicks. Saw her in "3 days to kill".... Damn

[YoungJRNYfan]

Batman V Superman Ultimate Cut just released digitally online. Lots of great reports. Collider just sat down and did their roundtable review and they all loved it. They are left scratching their head on why WB didn't release this version into theaters. Even Jon Schnepp, who destroyed BvS, praised it.

Collider: Batman V Superman Ultimate Cut review (spoilers):
https://youtu.be/nSI2w1Q_PXk

[The_Noble_Cause]

Batman V Superman Ultimate Cut just released digitally online. Lots of great reports. Collider just sat down and did their roundtable review and they all loved it. They are left scratching their head on why WB didn't release this version into theaters.

I'm trying not to be spoiled, but I guess I'll take a look at Collider's review.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I just edited my post TNC to provide the link. I'm just skipping around trying to avoid the new spoilers as well. There's some huge and important ones that's in the UC.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I just edited my post TNC to provide the link. I'm just skipping around trying to avoid the new spoilers as well. There's some huge and important ones that's in the UC.

10 mins into Collider review. Sounds like a much better movie. Wow. WB should have just released the full version.