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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Memorex » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:14 am

Monker wrote:>POOF!<

That's the sound of Trump's lead in the polls disappearing and Clinton leading by 5 or more pts again.

So much for Trump's "bounce".

Guess we won't hear much from FF quoting polls for a while now.


I was reading today, can't recall where, that some places had changed their polling methodologies. They pointed to the LA Times and indicated that was the poll to watch because they pick a sample set and stick with it. The other polls and gone back and rigged some numbers. But I've never paid attention to polls. Cause, why would I care about what anyone else thinks except me. I'm not interested in changing people's mind and I can't vote for anyone else. If 95% of the country likes one person and I like the other, a poll is not going to change my mind. If it changes anyone's mind, they are weak.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:48 am

Memorex wrote:
Monker wrote:>POOF!<

That's the sound of Trump's lead in the polls disappearing and Clinton leading by 5 or more pts again.

So much for Trump's "bounce".

Guess we won't hear much from FF quoting polls for a while now.


I was reading today, can't recall where, that some places had changed their polling methodologies. They pointed to the LA Times and indicated that was the poll to watch because they pick a sample set and stick with it. The other polls and gone back and rigged some numbers. But I've never paid attention to polls. Cause, why would I care about what anyone else thinks except me. I'm not interested in changing people's mind and I can't vote for anyone else. If 95% of the country likes one person and I like the other, a poll is not going to change my mind. If it changes anyone's mind, they are weak.


The thing about "polls" is that lots of people tend to want to be on the "winning" side of things no matter what. You can always tell who these people are because 99% of the time they are in deflect mode. So if they read somewhere that a specific person is ahead and "winning" they will tend to want to join the party because they rather do that then be on the "losing" party. I see people do that with sports teams constantly. They're only wanting team "x" to win cause they know that team will win cause they have the best players. Not everybody, but lots do this. Politics is no different. So bogus poll results are constantly being portrayed by specific media outlets just to "jumpstart" specific politician's popularity. Polls are no different then a marketing tool.

I too do not look at polls. I too don't give a damn who other people are voting for. What matters to me is who I feel is best fit for the job, not what a bunch of other people are up to doing. Where do these polls come from anyways? I've never once been asked to take a so called "poll" on who I thought was going to win or who I wanted to win or even who I was planning to vote for by any of these media outlets who constantly post up poll results.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:29 am

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:39 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So clinton gets her bounce and they are again tied. Nothing matters until the debates. I wonder how hillary will rig and pay those off?


Seems like they are already at it by scheduling debates at the same time NFL games are airing.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:25 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Monker wrote:>POOF!<

That's the sound of Trump's lead in the polls disappearing and Clinton leading by 5 or more pts again.

So much for Trump's "bounce".

Guess we won't hear much from FF quoting polls for a while now.


So clinton gets her bounce and they are again tied. Nothing matters until the debates. I wonder how hillary will rig and pay those off?


WRONG. In every poll, Clinton is UP by 5pts, at least. Clinton had a significant bounce compared to Trumps minor bounce. There was a 3-4pt "bounce" for Trump...and an 8-9pt bounce for Clinton, enabling her to make up for Trump's "bounce" and pass him by 5pts.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:29 am

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So clinton gets her bounce and they are again tied. Nothing matters until the debates. I wonder how hillary will rig and pay those off?


Seems like they are already at it by scheduling debates at the same time NFL games are airing.


Oh, please. First, Hillary will crush Trump the Toddler in a debate. Second, 5pts is nothing to "protect". Third, supposedly Trump = ratings so if the network had any say in it, they may WANT it up again NFL games. Lastly, NFL games are on almost every day of the week nowadays.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:34 am

Meme's the guy who can't write his own posts and quoted a poll not too long ago, and did it CONSTANTLY 4yrs ago.

And, I didn't quote a poll. They are ALL showing it:
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton PPP (D) Clinton 50, Trump 45 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein PPP (D) Clinton 46, Trump 41, Johnson 6, Stein 2 Clinton +5

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News Clinton 47, Trump 41 Clinton +6
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CNN/ORC Clinton 52, Trump 43 Clinton +9
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein CNN/ORC Clinton 45, Trump 37, Johnson 9, Stein 5 Clinton +8
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson CBS News Clinton 43, Trump 38, Johnson 10 Clinton +5


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Monker wrote:>POOF!<

That's the sound of Trump's lead in the polls disappearing and Clinton leading by 5 or more pts again.

So much for Trump's "bounce".

Guess we won't hear much from FF quoting polls for a while now.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:41 am

Memorex wrote:
Monker wrote:>POOF!<

That's the sound of Trump's lead in the polls disappearing and Clinton leading by 5 or more pts again.

So much for Trump's "bounce".

Guess we won't hear much from FF quoting polls for a while now.


I was reading today, can't recall where, that some places had changed their polling methodologies. [/qote]

They probably should since in 2012 they badly misjudged things. If they haven't changed things, it probably means Clinton is REALLY up by 15pts.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:49 pm

Some of these are up to a week old...which is before the DNC ended and before any bounce Clinton would have. It also skews the average to being way too low. Even with these faults, it still proves you are wrong and they are not tied.

I only posted polls AFTER the DNC was over...which averages a Clinton lead of over 5%.



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- Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton

Firm Dates Sample Clinton Trump Spread
EP Poll Average 45.9 43.2 Clinton +2.7
CNN/ORC 7/29 - 7/31 894 RV 52 43 Clinton +9
CBS News 7/29 - 7/31 1131 RV 47 41 Clinton +6
LA Times/USC 7/25 - 7/31 2188 LV 42 46 Trump +4
Public Policy Polling (D) 7/29 - 7/30 1276 LV 50 45 Clinton +5
Reuters/Ipsos 7/25 - 7/29 1050 LV 40 35 Clinton +5
Rasmussen Reports 7/26 - 7/27 1000 LV 43 42 Clinton +1
Economist/YouGov 7/23 - 7/24 1057 RV 47 42 Clinton +5
NBC News/SM 7/18 - 7/24 12931 RV 46 45 Clinton +1
Gravis Marketing (R) 7/21 - 7/22 3462 RV 49 51 Trump +2
American Research Group 7/17 - 7/20 990 RV 43 42 Clinton +1
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Seven Wishes » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:12 pm

Ummm...you mean like Donald Trump commiserating with Putin and the KGB? Please.

Still, nothing on your boy Reagan killing hundreds of Americans in Beirut? Nothing? I thought not.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:53 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:At leaST monker is interested in the polls. notice he could care less about Clinton using her post, selling out America to Russia.


Why should I care about that? I'm not voting for Clinton.

But, I'm definitely happy Trump the Tyrant is not winning.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Memorex » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:45 am

Sorry FF, I can't find the lines about the internet video. Can you point them out?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:13 am

What a laugh, today the little dookie chute community organizer says Trump is unfit for duties of POTUS. That's what we hear from dookie chute when he can't even come up with any significant/positive contribution and/or accomplishment that Hilldabeast has made for a reason to vote for her. From Dookie Chute and Hilldabeast's proven track record, they are nothing but one failure right after the other. Dookie Chute says Hilldabeast is fit to be POTUS, however FBI says Hilldabeast can't be charged with any crimes related to her secret server and email because she was too ignorant to really know that what she was doing was wrong. Hahaha....priceless.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:55 am

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JBlake wrote:What a laugh, today the little dookie chute community organizer says Trump is unfit for duties of POTUS. That's what we hear from dookie chute when he can't even come up with any significant/positive contribution and/or accomplishment that Hilldabeast has made for a reason to vote for her. From Dookie Chute and Hilldabeast's proven track record, they are nothing but one failure right after the other. Dookie Chute says Hilldabeast is fit to be POTUS, however FBI says Hilldabeast can't be charged with any crimes related to her secret server and email because she was too ignorant to really know that what she was doing was wrong. Hahaha....priceless.


Do you think he really cares about the Country or is he afraid Donald just might win and they are desperate what with wikileaks revealing their true nature?


As we get closer to elections, it's going to get pretty interesting for sure. It's a given that Dookie don't give a damn about America. That's a given. I'm sure Dookie, Hilldabeast and a whole slew of others are really starting to worry about what's going to happen when/if the Republicans retake the Whitehouse. Another thing that's really coming in focus now as we are getting closer to November is, it appears the Clinton Crime Family Foundation was basically initiated, planned, executed, monitor and controlled for the primary purpose of bankrolling the Clinton's back into the Whitehouse. Almost anyone can be bought for the right price and the perfect circumstances. The Clinton's needed that amount of money to do that. Something new I've been reading is there may be a paper trail that shows a direct connection between Clinton Foundation money and ISIS.

How much money is the Clinton's doling out to impact the election? Well we know that they were funding a lot, if not all, of the anti-Trump protesters which were wearing Bernie Sander's shirts and protesting at Trump rallies. I'm sure there will be some really astonishing information coming out pretty soon.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:09 am

Heads roll at the DNC because of the email deal. We can chalk this one up as, these people are being removed because of what they did, what they did is on par with the DNC fundamentals. No, what they did do wrong was they didn't do it in a way that protected the DNC. They did exactly what the DNC wants them to do, they just did it in a way that brought harm to DNC. Now they have to pay.

Meanwhile, notice how Hilldabeast has to remove herself for long periods of time during debates and how she's hours late to her own rallies? I'm starting to wonder if the Hilldabeast needs to take insulin shots or blood transfusions in order to function. WTF is going on with that nutty bitch? Or is she getting her drug fix, "That will keep you going through the show".
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:10 am

Fact Finder wrote:
JBlake wrote:Heads roll at the DNC because of the email deal. We can chalk this one up as, these people are being removed because of what they did, what they did is on par with the DNC fundamentals. No, what they did do wrong was they didn't do it in a way that protected the DNC. They did exactly what the DNC wants them to do, they just did it in a way that brought harm to DNC. Now they have to pay.

Meanwhile, notice how Hilldabeast has to remove herself for long periods of time during debates and how she's hours late to her own rallies? I'm starting to wonder if the Hilldabeast needs to take insulin shots or blood transfusions in order to function. WTF is going on with that nutty bitch? Or is she getting her drug fix, "That will keep you going through the show".


She was 90 minutes late to a Columbus,Oh rally on Sat or Sun and left those supporters out in the 90+ degree heat, 50 of them were taken to Hospitals with heat related conditions.


Sounds like they were feeling the Bern.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:45 am

Fact Finder wrote:Keep your eyes on this one...what could possibly go wrong? Trump wins, Lil berry claims the Diebold Voting Machines were hacked, and Bush v Gore looks like a walk in the park.

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is weighing new steps to bolster the security of the United States’ voting process against cyberthreats, including whether to designate the electronic ballot-casting system for November’s elections as “critical infrastructure,” Jeh Johnson, the secretary of Homeland Security, said on Wednesday.

In the wake of hacks that infiltrated Democratic campaign computer systems, Mr. Johnson said he was conducting high-level discussions about “election cybersecurity,” a vastly complex effort given that there are 9,000 jurisdictions in the United States that have a hand in carrying out the balloting, many of them with different ways of collecting, tallying and reporting votes.

“We should carefully consider whether our election system, our election process is critical infrastructure, like the financial sector, like the power grid,” Mr. Johnson told reporters at a breakfast in Washington. “There’s a vital national interest in our electoral process.”




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/us/po ... tacks.html


Bolster the results, um, I mean security.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:03 am

Fact Finder wrote:Keep your eyes on this one...what could possibly go wrong? Trump wins, Lil berry claims the Diebold Voting Machines were hacked, and Bush v Gore looks like a walk in the park.

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is weighing new steps to bolster the security of the United States’ voting process against cyberthreats, including whether to designate the electronic ballot-casting system for November’s elections as “critical infrastructure,” Jeh Johnson, the secretary of Homeland Security, said on Wednesday.

In the wake of hacks that infiltrated Democratic campaign computer systems, Mr. Johnson said he was conducting high-level discussions about “election cybersecurity,” a vastly complex effort given that there are 9,000 jurisdictions in the United States that have a hand in carrying out the balloting, many of them with different ways of collecting, tallying and reporting votes.

“We should carefully consider whether our election system, our election process is critical infrastructure, like the financial sector, like the power grid,” Mr. Johnson told reporters at a breakfast in Washington. “There’s a vital national interest in our electoral process.”




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/us/po ... tacks.html


That's interesting. Democrapers and Libs only have said over the course of a few days that only Trump would scream "rigged" if he lost.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:24 am

Fact Finder wrote:Truth


Spot on.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby tj » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:47 am

Fact Finder wrote:Washington Post journalist Jason Rezaian, 4 others freed from Iran 

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US airlift of $400 million worth of cash to Iran coincided with January release of 4 Americans detained in Tehran, officials briefed on operation say - Wall Street Journal

Read more on http://www.wsj.com


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Rep. Bill Johnson, R-Ohio, on report US cash shipment to Iran coincided with hostage release: 'For decades, American foreign policy has been to not pay ransom for hostages, because to do so only encourages more kidnapping of Americans. Not only did the Obama administration violate this common-sense policy, it did so secretly. I will call on the Speaker of the House to appoint a special investigation committee to get all the facts on this very serious violation of American policy. If true, this would make the Iran-Contra affair look like jaywalking.'

Read more on house.gov


and in other news North Korea fired off 2 more missiles tonight.


I don't think that there was ever a law forbidding the payment of ransom, but it has been US policy for over 30 years, at least. If Obama wants to change the policy, that is perhaps his prerogative as long as it doesn't conflict with US law (I don't agree with it him doing it). But to do it and hide, then claim it wasn't ransom it is disingenuous at best. He's a loser.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:54 pm

Fact Finder wrote:2016 US elections 

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Report: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump met with Gold Star families amid controversy - Military Times

Read more on militarytimes.com


Yeah, then he goes to a rally and says one of them gave him a check for "more than he could afford"...and flaunted the check in front of his crowd but would not say how much it was for, except to look at the amount and say, "Wow!" This after a veteran gave him his purple heart and said he always wanted one and this was a much easier way to get it.

...and he keeps bringing up OLD issues, like Megan Kelly bleeding out of her "whatever', lying about the context. He brought of 9/11 again. He can't let go of perceived slights by Paul Ryan taking his time to endorse him...mocking him by throwing those old words back at him, talking about EVERYTHING other than Clinton.

Hillary Clinton doesn't have to say anything. Trump may be a guy who likes to shoot from the hip, but right now he is only hitting his own feet, or other Republicans. The media has no time to cover Clinton...because Trump's crazy talk is dominating the news. Trump is essentially committing political suicide.

Nobody now cares about Emails or pallets of money...because an insane person is nominated for the Presidency and he is acting so ridiculous THAT dominates the news. I compared this to Christine O'Donnell from the start...and that is how it is turning out. All trump needs to do is to release an ad claiming he's not a witch.

Republican nominated a complete idiot who has no concept of what he is doing. He not only is not qualified for the presidency but he should not be in any type of representative politics at all. I love what William Weld said in the Libertarian town hall when asked for one word to describe Donald Trump...he said nowadays it would be "screw-loose" and contused to say he should look for another career...one that has absolutely nothing to with being President of the United States.

Obama saying Republicans should withdraw their endorsements is brilliant. Now if Paul Ryan or John McCain tell Trump to go fuck off, it LOOKS like they are following the outgoing President's lead. They can't have that, so they can't do anything.

Republicans are screwed now. This election is going to be the largest lopsided victory ever. Even FOX has Clinton up by 10pts. If Republicans DO NOT vote for Gary Johnson, they are simply voting for a crazy man who is in over his head, and he can't win anyway. Maybe the Libertarians can win a state or two...and that would be a significant thing for a third party to win a state in a Presidential election.

After the election, IMO, Trump is going to say he lost because everybody was against him, the media, the Republican leadership and establishment, and of course the Democrats. I won't be surprised if he says he didn't want the job anyway....because that is how he is acting.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:03 pm

Fact Finder wrote:2016 US elections 

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Report: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump met with Gold Star families amid controversy - Military Times

Read more on militarytimes.com


And, today's polls show Clinton up by around 10pts...and Johnson only needs 3pts to get into the debates.

Wednesday:
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Trump 39 Clinton +10
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 35, Johnson 12 Clinton +9

Tuesday:
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Economist/YouGov Clinton 46, Trump 43 Clinton +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/SM Clinton 50, Trump 42 Clinton +8
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36, Johnson 8, Stein 4 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/SM Clinton 42, Trump 38, Johnson 9, Stein 4 Clinton +4
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:47 pm

Monker wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:2016 US elections 

26m

Report: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump met with Gold Star families amid controversy - Military Times

Read more on militarytimes.com


And, today's polls show Clinton up by around 10pts...and Johnson only needs 3pts to get into the debates.

Wednesday:
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Trump 39 Clinton +10
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 35, Johnson 12 Clinton +9

Tuesday:
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Economist/YouGov Clinton 46, Trump 43 Clinton +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/SM Clinton 50, Trump 42 Clinton +8
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36, Johnson 8, Stein 4 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/SM Clinton 42, Trump 38, Johnson 9, Stein 4 Clinton +4


Lord knows that if there is anything we can trust in this life, it's polls. There truly is nothing left in life that isn't bought and paid for, is there. Kinda disgusting. For all sides.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Seven Wishes » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:14 pm

There's a huge difference between almost three hundred Americans killed (Reagan), as opposed to four (Obama), in three separate attacks at military barracks and consulates, and those killed during military engagements. You know it. You're not THAT stupid.

Address the issue of Reagan being responsible for the death of hundreds of marines (Beirut) because he ignored numerous warnings, versus your relentless and exhausting Benghazi obsession.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:24 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:There's a huge difference between almost three hundred Americans killed (Reagan), as opposed to four (Obama), in three separate attacks at military barracks and consulates, and those killed during military engagements. You know it. You're not THAT stupid.

Address the issue of Reagan being responsible for the death of hundreds of marines (Beirut) because he ignored numerous warnings, versus your relentless and exhausting Benghazi obsession.


There is a difference. One was an ongoing 12 hour fight in which we sent NO HELP. One was rife with hours of the pussification of American might, sitting around worrying about whether or not our military uniforms would offend the host country. One was followed up by our President and Secretary of State lying to the American people and to the victims families for the sake of the election and poll numbers. How about you denounce all the behavior surrounding that event? Because we live in that time. We are faced with electing one of those people.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:55 pm

Watching the media these past few days is nothing short of scary. Again, not saying this as a Trump supporter. It's as if chum has been thrown in the water and caused a frenzy. I've truly never witnessed anything like it. Just the pure dishonesty. I don't get it. I understand certain media being biased, especially those that admit it. But straight news should be straight news. CNN has truly lost their minds over trump. False stuff about babies and KFC and Khan and every other thing. Whether you like Trump or not, he is the nominee and the people have a right to fair, straight-up information about him. If he is what they say, then it will shake itself out without any assistance. I hope all sides are ashamed of the way our media is acting. Here's but one example, a small example, of the BS.

CNN's front page:

https://sli.mg/oyIVQK

Trumps Rally. He comes out at about the 1:20 mark.

http://www.mp3downloadstafaband.xyz/mp3 ... MbcI#popup

So CNN photoshops a big black curtain into the picture to cover the size of the crowd. No matter your belief, think about this for a moment. A major news organization intentionally edits a photograph to place on their news page. For what? What's the purpose of the deception. Can anyone here explain to me the newsworthiness of photoshoping a large curtain like this into a news photo? If you are someone that hates beyond hate Donald Trump, you have to at least realize how unethical this is. And I think the more people see this kind of thing, which is so blatant right now, the more they will question what they have been told all along.

We will never see another Walter Cronkite. So sad.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:51 am

Memorex wrote:
Lord knows that if there is anything we can trust in this life, it's polls. There truly is nothing left in life that isn't bought and paid for, is there. Kinda disgusting. For all sides.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... s-to-pass/


LOL...I predicted the bounce even before the Wednesday this prediction was made. By that Wednesday it was obvious that the Democrats had their shit together at the convention. Not even the lame Email hack or Sanders supporters were going to have an impact. When compared to the Republican convention, it was OBVIOUS by the time this prediction was made that Clinton was going to come out ahead...by a lot. To me, what you have proven is that some conservatives are so desperate that they are denying the reality that Clinton is out maneuvering Trump, and Trump is shooting himself in the foot, so often that Clinton really barely even needs to campaign to win. This election is a joke...and TRUMP is the reason...not some grand conspiracy that only the paranoid would believe as truth.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:14 am

Memorex wrote:False stuff about babies and KFC and Khan and every other thing.


Oh, please, the KFC thing...and even the baby thing were "fluff" things being presented basically as jokes. Quite honestly - I found it hilarious.

Whether you like Trump or not, he is the nominee and the people have a right to fair, straight-up information about him.


So, you are saying Trump didn't put a tweet with a pic where he was eating KFC with a knife and fork? You are saying that should not trigger memories of the "eating pizza with a fork" frenzy from a while back? It's hillarious.

And, the baby thing..."It's OK, I love the sound of crying babies..." then a few minutes later, "Well, really, can we get rid of the baby? Seriously. I think she thought I was serious, that I like the sound of crying babies while I am trying to speak..."

Trump is one loopy dude.

And, Khan IS news...at the time, TRUMP HIMSELF kept talking about it. So, CNN got a couple interviews with Khan himself. Nothing wrong with that. If Trump had not kept up his shit, it would have died. The funny thing is, Khizar Khan actually speaks better than Trump...he would probably be a better nominee than Trump is. At least he understands how to treat veterans with respect...instead of treating them as another demographic that should vote for him

If he is what they say, then it will shake itself out without any assistance. I hope all sides are ashamed of the way our media is acting. Here's but one example, a small example, of the BS.

CNN's front page:

https://sli.mg/oyIVQK

Trumps Rally. He comes out at about the 1:20 mark.

http://www.mp3downloadstafaband.xyz/mp3 ... MbcI#popup

[qote]So CNN photoshops a big black curtain into the picture to cover the size of the crowd. No matter your belief, think about this for a moment. A major news organization intentionally edits a photograph to place on their news page. For what? What's the purpose of the deception. Can anyone here explain to me the newsworthiness of photoshoping a large curtain like this into a news photo? If you are someone that hates beyond hate Donald Trump, you have to at least realize how unethical this is. And I think the more people see this kind of thing, which is so blatant right now, the more they will question what they have been told all along.


LOL...it's probably because they wanted to highlight Trump and he wasn't as highlighted if you have such a mass of people in the background. If you click on the article, it has NOTHING TO DO with crowd size. If this is the extent of your conspiracy theory, you are REALLY grasping at straws.

Trump is committing political suicide by his own actions. All the media is doing is reporting it.

We will never see another Walter Cronkite. So sad.


Hopefully, we won't see another Donald Trump as a candidate for President, either....and that is NOT a sad thing.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:20 am

Fact Finder wrote:
And, Khan IS news


And the compliant media shut up about Kahn when it was revealed that he was an immigration lawyer who sold immigration visas and just 3 days ago scrubbed his website (with a cloth) from the interwebs. It was also revealed that Kahn has known Clinton for years and actually did her taxes some years back. As Clint Eastwood said, the DNC used the poor slob Kahn for political gain.


I've been thinking this all along since first hearing about it. If we are talking about the same thing here.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:20 pm

Fact Finder wrote:
And, Khan IS news


And the compliant media shut up about Kahn when it was revealed that he was an immigration lawyer who sold immigration visas and just 3 days ago scrubbed his website (with a cloth) from the interwebs. It was also revealed that Kahn has known Clinton for years and actually did her taxes some years back. As Clint Eastwood said, the DNC used the poor slob Kahn for political gain.


Which is all made up bullshit propaganda.

Khan isn't an immigration lawyer. True, he had it on his site but he had not had one single case that he argued. If he did, please post it. I would love to know.

His site was taken down due to being over-loaded with hits. And, what's to 'scrub' in a three page site?

So what if Clinton and Khan knew each other.

And, NONE of this changes what TRUMP said and the controversy HE created, and continued on and on about. If Trump would learn to shut the fuck up about these obscure things, he would be hurt by them. Even if all of the lies you posted above were true...it doesn't change what TRUMP himself said and did. The guy is a complete idiot. He is so incompetent he can't even run a campaign and stay on target. All one of Clinton's newsworth supporters has to do is say something like "Trump is an arrogant asshole." and Trump will spend an entire week on the attack of the person who said. He can't help himself because he IS an arrogant asshole. He is a narcissist...he has such a high opinion of himself that he MUST comment (his words) when somebody attacks him. He does not KNOW how let something go. He was even commenting on Megyn Kelly...and that was clear back at the beginning of his campaign. He promises all of this stuff that he CAN'T deliver. There won't be a wall because it is impossible to build one.

We can't even build a fence...do you know there are some parts of Texas that are on THE WRONG SIDE OF THE FENCE because we can't build structures so close to the Rio Grande? Trump wants to build a 30ft wall when we can't even build a fence? And, I remember all kinds of stories from years ago of using tunnels to get people through. There was even a story of a canon used to shoot drugs over the fence. And, WALL is going to stop those things? It's a STUPID idea designed to get people all riled up but it's not feasible and not useful.

Then there is banning all Muslims...which I didn't need Khan to tell me it was unConstitutional. I said that before it was even on the news. As soon as such a Presidential order happens, it will be challenged in court. But, it really doesn't matter...because how is this even going to be implemented? "Check here if you are a Muslim?" Come on...how ridiculous. So, now he wants to ban countries with terrorism issues, removing the religious context. So, we are going to ban Norther Ireland because of the NRA? Does he even think before he opens his fucking mouth?

Trump is so ignorant...he simply makes shit up as he goes and tries to keep people all riled up and pissed off....for any reason he can find. THAT is how he has gotten where he is....and people are JUST STARTING to realize this. Jump off the bandwagon before its driver runs off a cliff and takes the rest of his lemmings with him.

These things are not simply explained away by a biased media. Trump's malformed brain is the only explanation. He has said his best adviser is himself because he has a good brain. Well, that explains a hell of a lot. And, people like you are rooting for this ignorant narcissist.
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