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[verslibre]

http://comicbook.com/2016/08/04/suicide-squad-star-tells-critics-to-kiss-his-ass/

Suicide Squad Star Tells Critics To Kiss His Ass

"I think it sucks. I mean, you know, obviously we worked hard and tried to give the fans what they wanted, and it's, it's weird that like that some of the criticism I heard was that it was too much like a comic book you know what I'm saying, in term of like, you have these characters uh, uh, being objectified like Harley Quinn. I'm like if, I mean there's certain elements that are just part of being a comic book, and if you're trying to portray that on a film you have to sort of be true to that because if you don't the fans of the comics are going to be offended ya know, so it's like you're trying to satisfy a lot of people."

[Jay Hernandez] makes some valid points, and you're never going to please everyone. For Katana actress Karen Fukuhara, she just hopes that the hardcore DC fans will love it.

"You know we honestly made it for the hardcore DC fans and I just hope that they enjoy the movie. I can't wait till August 5th until everyone can see it. I know a lot of people are going to the midnight showing, so (heart shape) much love"

Hernandez took a slightly different tact towards the critics, and no heart shapes were involved.

"I think we did it, so I think critics could kiss my ass (laughter)."

[YoungJRNYfan]

And it's kicked off:

SUICIDE SQUAD Box Office Opens Higher Than DEADPOOL, GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY Overseas ($8.1 million)
http://www.newsarama.com/30509-suicide- ... rseas.html

[RedWingFan]

And it's kicked off:

SUICIDE SQUAD Box Office Opens Higher Than DEADPOOL, GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY Overseas ($8.1 million)
http://www.newsarama.com/30509-suicide- ... rseas.html

It won't end up there.... 29%

[verslibre]

It will. Have a look/listen to this. https://www.facebook.com/thewrap/videos/10154367252343664/

[YoungJRNYfan]

I'm sticking with my $125 mil OW prediction.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Brian D. ‏@BDF331 6m6 minutes ago
Despite the release of Snyder's BvS cut, we'll never see Ayer's #SuicideSquad cut. BvS was cut for time, not tone. Ayer's film was mutated.

[RedWingFan]

DC knows where they want to go, but they have no idea how to get there. Making several versions of a movie and showing them to see which sticks? Clueless.

[RedWingFan]

Suicide Squad opened at 33% on RT. At least it's ahead of B v. S 27%

Ok, it's now tied at 27%

[Monker]

I have a small handful of critics and internet personalities I trust and post them. Like I said, Mark Hughes, Jeremey Johns, John Shnepp and John Campea are the ones I follow. The RT website I don't take serious. It's no different than a NFL power ranking for fans to get obsessed or upset with. Make or break for me is release date, not reviews. I'll be upset if I don't like it rather than what the reviews say. No question.

Yeah, but your average movie goer will read the review in the NY Post or US Weekly, and there's a 2 in 3 chance that Joe Movie is going to read a crap review. You were crediting the crap reviews about MOS and B v. S with contributing to the box office plunge. Here it comes again.

You're right...in fact, I would say most people don't look past Rotten Tomatoes.

Sorry folks, but everything is hanging on Wonder Woman. If they do not do at least as well as the first Thor movie, the DCEU is going to be in very serious trouble...

[Monker]

Brian D. ‏@BDF331 6m6 minutes ago
Despite the release of Snyder's BvS cut, we'll never see Ayer's #SuicideSquad cut. BvS was cut for time, not tone. Ayer's film was mutated.

So much for you all thinking there is all of this freedom to do whatever they want in the DCEU. This is the second film in a row that has been edited to please the studio.

You may not like how Fiege runs things at Marvel...but at least Mickey Mouse isn't coming in to cut up movies at the end of the process.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Time to give it up, RWF! It hasn't mattered AWHILE ago. You're proving no point.

Just got back from the theater. I enjoyed it! It is a relief to know the type of things it was set out to accomplish and those certain things ended up being important enough for me to care in the overall outcome and what's coming next. In the midst of everything that was flat out awful about it, the same things that made it awful had quick turnarounds and made you forget the useless stuff in the right moments. There were about 3 characters that were underutilized that didn't need to be there, but the emphasis on the heavy hitters were spot on fantastic. The movie focuses on a specific thing and the strong cast delivers what it's supposed to. I won't do any spoilers as of yet but you can't tell me that somebody can't sit there and enjoy this as much as the average Marvel film. It's not 27% bad and neither was BvS. Period. Going again this weekend.

[Monker]

Now that Geoff Johns is in there (in essentially the same role as Kevin Feige at Marvel Studios), we're going to see a lot less meddling via the suits. Between Geoff and Ben, I think 2017 is going to be a momentous year for the DCEU.

LOL...It was written before BvS that Snyder was taking the King of the Sandbox role that Feige has at Marvel. Guess he lost that job. He had a 'hands off' approach and let the directors do what they wanted within the sandbox...and you all loved it and said it was a huge difference compared to Marvel's "hands on" approach the Feige has. I believe that is how it was written back then. Now you see the result of not giving the studio what they want...a cut up and edited mess.

So, what is this new guy going to be expected to do? If the expectation is for WB to keep their hands off the movie, it seems he has a choice of either ensuring the movies are what WB wants, as Feige does, or ensuring WB wants the movies that are being made. It's much easier to keep a director in line than a studio. A director can quit or be fired and be replaced. I doubt you can replace WB if they decide to quit on DC movies.

DC is becoming more like Marvel at every turn.

[Monker]

Time to give it up, RWF! It hasn't mattered AWHILE ago. You're proving no point.

Just got back from the theater. I enjoyed it! It is a relief to know the type of things it was set out to accomplish and those certain things ended up being important enough for me to care in the overall outcome and what's coming next. In the midst of everything that was flat out awful about it, the same things that made it awful had quick turnarounds and made you forget the useless stuff in the right moments. There were about 3 characters that were underutilized that didn't need to be there, but the emphasis on the heavy hitters were spot on fantastic. The movie focuses on a specific thing and the strong cast delivers what it's supposed to. I won't do any spoilers as of yet but you can't tell me that somebody can't sit there and enjoy this as much as the average Marvel film. It's not 27% bad and neither was BvS. Period. Going again this weekend.

I don't think RWF has to prove anything...when the numbers start coming in to RT from the fans, I have a feeling the point will be made.

Even what you said above. "in the midst of everything that was flat out aweful..." "There were about 3 characters that were underutilized and didn't need to be there." "It's not 27% bad and neither was BvS."

Wow. You basically admitted it was as bad/good as BvS...and for many of the same reasons. Not good.

[YoungJRNYfan]

There's only one main issue I had with the movie and it was the "villain". The villain was awful but at the same time, easily forgivable for me because the villain wasn't a total throwaway. There was some good things to actually come about the villain that makes you appreciate all the good the movie accomplished, and there's a ton of it. It's not a perfect movie by any means and it's flawed, but the point of it hits the nail on the head. I liked it. There were some absolutely fantastic scenes that makes or breaks a movie. Suicide Squad has many things working out in its favor. No question.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I don't think RWF has to prove anything...

I just said that. We all know his point is to be a dick in true MR fashion. I'm ready to talk the movie.

Wow. You basically admitted it was as bad/good as BvS...and for many of the same reasons. Not good.

You scoffed over everything else that I said. Typical. As I said, it's not a perfect movie, there was one main bad thing that I hated, but it serves the point of the movie for what it set out to accomplish. The thing I hated overall didn't even matter in how I scored the movie into whether I liked it or not. There was other things that flat out got me excited and smiling from ear to ear. I'm gonna wait, but as of now, audiences seem to like it via reports.

[YoungJRNYfan]

LOL...It was written before BvS that Snyder was taking the King of the Sandbox role that Feige has at Marvel.

Everything is still in place set forth by Snyder. Not of that changed.

Guess he lost that job.

Snyder is still in collaboration and most of his role is still intact. He has say and the direction is still his. Geoff Johns was bred for the overall role. Why not promote that? It's smart but the same creative people are involved. They just have somebody at the helm to smooth things out, character-wise.

He had a 'hands off' approach and let the directors do what they wanted within the sandbox.

Everybody still has that freedom. That's not changing.

..and you all loved it and said it was a huge difference compared to Marvel's "hands on" approach the Feige has.

The "sandbox" Snyder refer to is completely different than what you think you are describing. Besides, v and I have been saying for years that we want somebody to overlook the system in a Feige type role, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with who's overlooking a project or what's "hands on" or not. The director's are still telling their story. Just like anything else, the studio has interference. It's nothing new.

Now you see the result of not giving the studio what they want...a cut up and edited mess.

The studio execs didn't set a precedent of what they wanted. What studio execs do well as studio execs is listen to outside noise and try to adjust accordingly. It's studio meddling at its finest that will cease now that the moves in the hieacrhy are all out in the open (it had been known for months following BvS.) Those changes involved the problematic chaos going on behind the scenes of SSQUAD and heads rolled. More is just coming out from that fallout. It's well underway.

So, what is this new guy going to be expected to do?

Make sure things are moving smoothly and each character is represented in a certain light. This "new guy" is also the Chief Creative Officer at DC Comics and is working with Ben Affleck in writing "The Batman." Different than Feige, who was always just a film producer. He said it himself he wasn't that big of a comic book fans. Johns has more say in character creation and what place the character has in the Universe rather than just overseeing the production of each film.

DC is becoming more like Marvel at every turn.

No they're not. Similarities between the two always existed well before Marvel Studios became a thing. As deluded and obsessed you are with being right, they're still going about this in totally different ways.

[RedWingFan]

I don't think RWF has to prove anything...

I just said that. We all know his point is to be a dick in true MR fashion.

No, my point is to stay grounded in the reality that DC can't get out of their own fucking way, which you seemed to agree with just a page back.

I'm ready to talk the movie.

Well, you're going to have to wait 6 months til I buy a blu-ray copy of SS out of the $5 bargain bin at Best Buy. I'm done blowing good money on DC's shit shows at the theater.

[verslibre]

FRIDAY AM UPDATE: Suicide Squad got off to a strong start last night, pulling in $20.5 million from Thursday night preview screenings nearly doubling the previous August record of $11.2 million set by Guardians of the Galaxy back in 2014 before it opened with $94.3 million, the current August opening weekend record. Suicide Squad screenings started at approximately 6 PM and took place in 3,700+ locations. The total includes IMAX screenings which grossed $2.4m.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4213&p=.htm

[Monker]

You scoffed over everything else that I said. Typical. As I said, it's not a perfect movie, there was one main bad thing that I hated, but it serves the point of the movie for what it set out to accomplish. The thing I hated overall didn't even matter in how I scored the movie into whether I liked it or not. There was other things that flat out got me excited and smiling from ear to ear. I'm gonna wait, but as of now, audiences seem to like it via reports.

Well, I'm not going to see this one either. What I am reading seems to be about the same mix of positive/negative reviews as BvS had - and that movie is HORRIBLE.

And, now I am very, VERY skeptical about Wonder Woman. If it follows the trend, it's going to be a very mediocre standard Hero Journey tale...probably more like Thor 2. Right now, it's lucky that it doesn't have much to compete with, unless you guys consider WW at the same level as "Captain Underpants".

At the very least, DC is struggling to get any momentum at all before the JL movie...and that should scare the hell out of WB.

[verslibre]

You don't watch any of these movies. You prefer to read a spoiler-laden review to form your basis, don't you?

[YoungJRNYfan]

Box Office: 'Suicide Squad' Making a Killing Friday for $140M-Plus Debut
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... ing-917376

Warner Bro's seemed to back down on their projections (a good thing) to around $100-125 mil OW (my prediction) but indications are saying $140 OW. In the face of bad reviews, that sure is an unique situation. We shall see.

[RedWingFan]

74% audience approval on RT. Not too shabby.

[verslibre]

The movie rocks. Redwing, I think you'd like it!! I'm not kidding. It's a VERY different movie than BvS. I'll post my remarks in a few.

[verslibre]

Box Office: 'Suicide Squad' Making a Killing Friday for $140M-Plus Debut
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... ing-917376

Warner Bro's seemed to back down on their projections (a good thing) to around $100-125 mil OW (my prediction) but indications are saying $140 OW. In the face of bad reviews, that sure is an unique situation. We shall see.

The thing is, the only people talking it down are the guys who posted a "rotten" (below 6.5) review on RT. Everyone else either really digs it and wants to see it again, or thinks it's okay.

But it's set for a BIG OW.

[RedWingFan]

The movie rocks. Redwing, I think you'd like it!! I'm not kidding. It's a VERY different movie than BvS. I'll post my remarks in a few.

Sounds like a typical popcorn flick like Fast and furious. Action for actions sake with little character development. I'll pass and catch it on blu Ray

[verslibre]

The movie rocks. Redwing, I think you'd like it!! I'm not kidding. It's a VERY different movie than BvS. I'll post my remarks in a few.

Sounds like a typical popcorn flick like Fast and furious. Action for actions sake with little character development. I'll pass and catch it on blu Ray

It's an ensemble film, but no shit, every character has his/her moment. Don't expect a Joker movie. Harley Quinn and Deadshot get the most screen time. But the big surprise was El Diablo.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Never underestimate the power of new fan favorite characters seen for the first time on the big screen. No matter the overall technicality of the film and its shortcomings in that regard, it's completely forgivable and overlooked when you're having a ball watching them NAIL characters like Harley Quinn and Deadshot, let alone performances from Amanda Waller (total bad bitch!) and Caption Boomerang, who was a very nice addition and played off of Deadshot and Harley perfectly.

I was pissed about them cutting Letos scenes as Joker, but him being a secondary character through the eyes of Harley made that relationship perfect with timing and made him that more creepier.

For Jokers role in this film, timing was everything and the relationship between the two had a perfect blend. Even Rick Flagg shocked me in how good his performance was and I was expecting him to be the most dull out of the bunch.

V is right. Each character has their moments and some are flat out refreshing and nicely done. It makes you want to see even MORE of the team, especially the juicy storylines that can come about this in one film. Deadshot was fantastic and the thought of future showdowns with Batfleck had me eating out of their hands. There's just fresh opportunities for DC to go in and everybody seems to be on board with that. They just need to buckle in and finally play off of the strengths of this universe.

[verslibre]

Do you have any scoop on the Arrow-Flash-Supergirl-Legends of Tomorrow crossover? — Bridget

It’s a bit early to reveal anything big just yet as Greg Berlanti tells me they’re just about to start breaking the crossover episodes. But the uber-producer did give me one tease to share with the masses: “I’m going to probably try to have one unifying threat, as opposed to different things on different ones, which is what the first year was,” Berlanti reveals. Who will be that threat?

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/05/

[verslibre]

Never underestimate the power of new fan favorite characters seen for the first time on the big screen. No matter the overall technicality of the film and its shortcomings in that regard, it's completely forgivable and overlooked when you're having a ball watching them NAIL characters like Harley Quinn and Deadshot, let alone performances from Amanda Waller (total bad bitch!) and Caption Boomerang, who was a very nice addition and played off of Deadshot and Harley perfectly.

I didn't expect Will to kill it like that. Every actor was cast perfectly. Margot was a trip. That underwater scene...ha! And then what happened AFTER that...hahaha!

I was pissed about them cutting Letos scenes as Joker, but him being a secondary character through the eyes of Harley made that relationship perfect with timing and made him that more creepier.

I liked that he didn't dominate the film, but every time we saw him, he was doing something — something major, or subversive, or outright destructive.

For Jokers role in this film, timing was everything and the relationship between the two had a perfect blend. Even Rick Flagg shocked me in how good his performance was and I was expecting him to be the most dull out of the bunch.

A bunch of reviewers have so obviously "reviewed" it without even watching the fucking movie. If the Marvel logo appeared before the titles, this movie would be FRESH. No shit. One guy even wrote "How are the Squad members so bad? They're just people with problems." WTF?! We see Deadshot demanding DOUBLE payment for a hit...and then does it. Harley's killed before (pretty much a prerequisite if you're the Joker's squeeze). Slipknot is a real bastard (they cut something of his, he's worse than how he actually came off!). And how about what El Diablo did? Do they sound like only "people with 'some' problems"?? In fact, some peeps over at CBR say Amanda Waller's the REAL villain of the film. She did do something that makes me wonder!

And how about that homage to Alex Ross' classic Harley & Joker painting? EPIC.

V is right. Each character has their moments and some are flat out refreshing and nicely done. It makes you want to see even MORE of the team, especially the juicy storylines that can come about this in one film. Deadshot was fantastic and the thought of future showdowns with Batfleck had me eating out of their hands. There's just fresh opportunities for DC to go in and everybody seems to be on board with that. They just need to buckle in and finally play off of the strengths of this universe.

The Batman-Deadshot scene felt like something right off the page. Literally. Ayer nailed the tone. The Flash cameo (which Zack directed) was great. It made sense, since Boomerang's a Flash rogue. I thought it was funny how Boom and Slipknot immediately made a pact to GTFO.

The audience I was with was totally into the movie, too. 20 million on a Thursday...!

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