DC Extended Universe THREAD

[verslibre]

And, now I am very, VERY skeptical about Wonder Woman. If it follows the trend, it's going to be a very mediocre standard Hero Journey tale...probably more like Thor 2.

[Monker]

What should I be expected to say of WW after DC releases two shit movies in BvS and SS, following a mediocre but acceptable MoS that I mostly like? The DCEU is crashing by their own doing...it's not any trolling on the forum or even biased thinking to say it may be like Thor 2. Thor 2 is a mediocre movie, is it not? That is what I am expecting WW to be. I'm sure you two will think it's the best thing ever...but...

....you two post the exact same biased infomercials for SS as you did for BvS. Now, I mostly expect that to happen. But, really, all it means is you two have your heads buried so far in the sand that you can't recognize what is happening to the DCEU. Do you really expect it to survive past JL if every movie prior to it sucks? WB is the studio, not DC. There is no reason to release crappy DC movies that barely make any money when they can do something else that will make a lot more. If that continues, someone at WB will be looking for a new job.

Everything is riding on WW now. EVERYTHING. if it turns out to be a mediocre POS like the two movies prior to it, than -IMO- the DCEU should end at JL. Sure, continue the success they are having on TV...but they obviously don't know how to do it on the big screen

And, yeah, SS will have a decent opening weekend....so did BvS, and MoS. But, just as BvS and MoS, I look for it to fall apart after. That is the pattern that DC movies follow.

And, now I am very, VERY skeptical about Wonder Woman. If it follows the trend, it's going to be a very mediocre standard Hero Journey tale...probably more like Thor 2.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Hard to take Monkerpedia serious when all he does is talk off a teleprompter and let others write his material for him as he skips 90% of these movies. If we pee our pants, consider Monkerpedia Miles Davis.

[verslibre]

He says the same things over and over, but he's not even El Mayimbe. Or Fartaci, for that matter.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I didn't expect Will to kill it like that. Every actor was cast perfectly.

Couldn't have had a better cast. Will Smith brought weight to the character of Deadshot and he carried a lot of the film, something I was kind of so-so on from the beginning but he silenced his critics from his introduction scene and carried the tote from there. Excellent choice for Deadshot. "You go ahead and do whatever it is you white people do.." Had me cracking up.

Margot was a trip.

Her dialogue was perfection for Harley and Margot chose the right accent to play with. All the "Puddin's!" and "Mistah J" stuff really had me applauding the efforts. It was hard taking your eyes off of Harley for MANY reasons but her performance was pitch perfect. I literally found no flaw in Margot's delivery and body language. The way they wrote her was both hysterical not only in dialogue, but her knee jerk reactions in the moment to choose danger and death over anything. Danger literally excites her in the most hilarious and disturbing way possible.

That underwater scene...ha! And then what happened AFTER that...hahaha!

Too good. Ayer really captured the wackiness and unpredictability of Harley and the Joker. You can just tell why Batman is exhausted and had the "fuck this shit" attitude in BvS. He has an entire Bat-Family and rogue gallery to keep him on his toes, but man, Harley and the Joker could really give you a mental breakdown if you're not careful.

I liked that he didn't dominate the film, but every time we saw him, he was doing something — something major, or subversive, or outright destructive.

It was a nice blend for me and I was actually glad it ended up being the Harley Quinn show and not Jokers. It's very different seeing Joker in a secondary/reactionary role so to see things out of Jokers control and how that made him even more maniacal shows that a Harley/Joker dynamic in future films can go any which way.

In fact, some peeps over at CBR say Amanda Waller's the REAL villain of the film. She did do something that makes me wonder!

What a fucking BRUTAL bitch! As horrible as Enchantress was (I was actually looking forward to her as a sleeper pick, but damn did she annoy me in every sense of the word) atleast they set it up where magical forces were supposed to be apart of the assemble, but evil in the end is always evil and it tied into the mission. Some of it just fell flat but you're totally right in Amanda Waller being the TRUE villain of this movie. I can see why they chose Viola Davis in this role. The look in her eyes was cold as fuck and every single decision she made around her was nothing but ruthless and unforgiving. Even Deadshot was like "You're a bad bitch." Her actions when the mission crumbled was a true act of villainy.

And how about that homage to Alex Ross' classic Harley & Joker painting? EPIC.

Remember when I texted you about me smiling my ass off from ear to ear? This was one of those moments. I liked the cinematography as well during it. Reminded me of a carnival two-way mirror sequence of some sort. It just tonally gave you an idea of the weirdness of their relationship. And Harley in the jester jumpsuit should shut the traps of the fans about Harley not wearing a traditional costume.

The Batman-Deadshot scene felt like something right off the page. Literally.

No doubt about that. Batfleck interacting with another villain was refreshing. Also, hearing him speak reminded me how much I loved the voice modulator. That was a great decision by Snyder to go in when it came to Batflecks voice. It adds to the vigilante persona.

Ayer nailed the tone.

It was shot nice as well. Seeing the Bat towering over the little girl in the background during a sentimental moment in a non-sentimental situation really made the scene feel that much more real. It gave a sense of difficulty for both hero and villain and brought them both down to a more human level.

The Flash cameo (which Zack directed) was great.

One of my favorite nods to the more extended part of the DC Universe. Flash looks great and it just shows his importance in tieing everything together. Notice noone is bitching about it? Nobody even knew Zack directed it so it was a naturally designed scene to show people Zack can have some fun as well while not fully putting his name on the envelope to take credit.

I thought it was funny how Boom and Slipknot immediately made a pact to GTFO.

The audience ate that up, especially later on when Boomerang didn't hesitate one iota of a second to get the hell out of dodge when Flagg gave them the command to be set free of Wallers mission at the bar. Very good stuff.

The audience I was with was totally into the movie, too. 20 million on a Thursday...!

So far, it's a TOTALLY different feel than the MoS and BvS discussions. There seems to be a more of a peace surrounding the debates on the forums and just enough healthy disagreements to keep the forums rolling at a fast pace.

Though people are acknowledging the OBVIOUS flaws, the overall consensus so far from fans and audiences is how enjoyable the flick was and how it held their attention. Despite the critical mess, that's a step in the right direction.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Holy hell:

BOX OFFICE: SUICIDE SQUAD Exceeds Expectations On Friday For Possible $150 Million Debut
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_s ... or-a144292

Monster $65.1M opening day FRI for #SuicideSquad incl $5.8M from #IMAX. Wknd may get near $150M. Soars past AUG record by over 50%.

[YoungJRNYfan]

The biggest surprise in terms of audience makeup was the strong turnout among females, who made up 46 percent of Friday's audience, according to exit poling service CinemaScore. That's unusual for a superhero film. Warners also succeeded in luring younger moviegoers; 28 percent of ticket buyers were under the age of 18. Both females and those younger moviegoers liked the better, giving it an A- and A, respectively.

A damn good sign.

[verslibre]

This movie is getting a lot of support on CBR, amazingly. Even Marvel fans are sticking up for this movie because it rocks! What if Deadshot gets his own film?

[verslibre]

It cannot be summed up better. This guy is TUNED IN!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/toddkenreck/2016/08/05/suicide-squad-is-a-blast-but-the-reviews-are-a-dumpster-fire-of-hyperbole/#29251183bb4b

'Suicide Squad' Is A Blast, But Reviews Are A Dumpster Fire Of Hyperbole

Ahhh, but a blast of what exactly? Suicide Squad is fun, scrambled, and contains an excellent cast. But why all the salty reviews? Why the edgy and upset headlines? Several critics hate Suicide Squad with the intensity of an angry toddler, which isn’t unexpected since the DC cinematic universe seems to be their favorite punching bag. First thing you have to understand is that there is a character named Captain Boomerang in the film, so calm down your expectations of seeing something remotely rational. I’ve read the comics for Suicide Squad on and off again for years and David Ayer blew me away with his surprisingly faithful adaptations of the characters and by capturing the feel of the comics. Suicide Squad isn’t the grim, dark Batman V Superman, and it isn’t the silly heart of gold criminal group from Guardians of The Galaxy. These are hardened homicidal criminals in a world of flying aliens and a rich guy who likes to dress up like a bat – so buckle up and expect things to get super weird and disjointed.

Jared Leto’s Joker took me a while to warm up to but by the end of the movie I loved this new version of The Joker. Leto’s performance is intense, uncomfortable and you don’t doubt for a second that The Joker is a real, unhinged psychopath. His chemistry with Margot Robbie who plays Harley Quinn is undeniable, which is a good thing because she steals the show. Margot Robbie’s Harley is twisted, nuanced and delightful. She captures all of the character’s broken logic and conflicting ideologies. Harley is fiercely capable and independent but not when faced with her paramour, The Joker. They are both slaves to each other, and it is clear The Joker can’t not love Harley, which is an intriguing performance decision because ultimately despite all of his evil, this relationship is the one thing that humanizes him and the one thing that dehumanizes her. Harley convinces herself that she is okay with this clearly unhealthy life, but deep down she just wants to have a “normal” relationship which is also still slightly off and absolutely dated. Harley is not a hero, not a role model, not a healthy example of who a woman, or who any person should be and you have to be okay with understanding that a character’s existence and actions in a film do not condone those things.

Will Smith is fantastic as Deadshot, blending a heavy mix of comedy and drama into almost every moment for the character. On several occasions Deadshot got a round of applause from the audience after some exceptionally epic and jaw dropping moments. Viola Davis is amazing as Amanda Waller in this movie; she walks in and owns the world with such cold-blooded detachment that it makes you realign your idea of what a villain is. This is a movie that relies less on the plot line and the main villain than on the performances of a nearly perfectly-cast film. The main threat in the movie goes from Ghostbusters-style campy to uber creepy several times, this defines the movie itself because it does feel like a film that has been second guessed by the studio. Oddly, the inconsistent style of Suicide Squad works for it because of the instability of the characters and the diverse range of backgrounds they all come from in the comics.

Suicide Squad very much serves as the narrative and likely tonal connective tissue between Batman V Superman and Justice League with some brief cameos and a touch of extra world building for the DCU. Is this a perfect film? No, but it is a fun film that is getting raked over the coals while movies like The Avengers: Age of Ultron are for the most part immune, despite similar problems in plot, studio meddling, tone, agency, too many characters and a portrayal of a villain that definitely missed the mark.

Suicide Squad is ultimately a victim of not being a Marvel film. Critics for the most part bashed Batman V Superman for its dark atmosphere, so Warner Bros. tried to pivot at the last minute with Suicide Squad and they got bashed again for that. When Justice League comes out and it isn’t a shot for shot remake of The Avengers then it will get slammed for that as well – and if it is a success it will be accused of stealing the Marvel formula. Having a soundtrack isn’t an exclusive right of Guardians of The Galaxy, by the way, do I need to refer anyone to The Watchmen, The Crow or just about every action movie ever made? My advice to fans and the creators of Suicide Squad is this – forget about what the critics are saying, just make up your own mind and try to let yourself have fun. When there is a half-man-half-crocodile in this film fighting alongside someone wielding a katana named Katana, you know what you are getting into. I give Suicide Squad an 8/10.

[verslibre]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4214&p=.htm

'Suicide Squad' Shoots Down August Record with $135 Million Opening

Finishing in first place with an estimated $135.1 million, Warner Bros. and DC Comics' Suicide Squad now holds the largest August opening weekend, topping Guardians of the Galaxy's $94.3 million from 2014. The film also had the largest August opening day with $65.2 million, which included the largest August Thursday preview total of $20.5 million. Combined with a $132 million international opening from 57 territories, the film's global opening haul ranks 24th all-time with $267.1 million, topping Deadpool's worldwide opening of $264.7 million earlier this year, which opened in 63 international markets.

[YoungJRNYfan]

[YoungJRNYfan]

Gimmie a HELL YEA!!!!

BREAKING: Man of Steel sequel in ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT

A source familiar with the project told The Wrap, "Superman is a top priority for the studio and getting the character right for audiences is of tantamount..

Http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/08/08/man- ... velopment/

[verslibre]

BRAINIAC!! BRAINIAC!! BRAINIAC!!

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-puts-man-of-steel-sequel-into-active-development-exclusive/

Henry Cavill‘s Superman will fly solo again in a sequel to “Man of Steel” going into active development at Warner Bros., a person familiar with the project told TheWrap.

Warner Bros. has two untitled DC films to be released on Oct. 5, 2018 and Nov. 1, 2019, but hasn’t said what they will be.

Obviously The Batman and Man of Steel Book II!

[verslibre]

CBR posted it, too!

[YoungJRNYfan]

So did Newsarama. It's EVERYWHERE! Fuck yes!

[verslibre]

Who do you think they have in mind to direct it?

[verslibre]

Honestly, if Zack directs, I'm there. He didn't write MoS, Goyer did. People need to ease off Zack...or ease on down the road. He's got a visual style that lends itself exceedingly well to CBMs. Fuck what people think. If Geoff/Ben/Mark Waid or whoever want to co-write the script, yay. They write, Zack directs, Larry lenses.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I bet WB is waiting on the contract status of Henry. JL was his last film in his MoS 3 film contract so with shooting underway and questions about Superman's role in JL, getting Henry his second contract is probably timing to release future Superman plans. It took WB awhile to confirm Affleck for Batman as well so I anticipate this becoming confirmed by the studio in the next few.

It's almost..ALMOST a guarantee that the 2 untitled WB films on the DC slate for 2018 and 2019 are 'The Batman' and 'Man of Steel 2'.

As to who will direct, the David Ayer comment v posted a few posts up was very interesting. Could he be on the radar if Zack does other things? (I know Snyder wants to work on some of his other projects he wanted to get off the ground, most notably a '300' style George Washington biopic.)

Right now, I'd say Snyder would still be in major consideration for MoS 2 with George Miller and now even David Ayer thrown around in the conversation if they bypass the SSQuad sequel, use those characters for Ben to play with for his Batman solo/solo's and give Ayer a crack at Supes, but we're going to have to see how Big Blue returns first before we can see what tonal direction his next film will be. I bet Zack would have a chip on his shoulder for Superman.

[YoungJRNYfan]

ELMAYBE just posted this:

AT LAST, KRYPTONIAN!

[verslibre]

FUCKING. HELL. YEAH.

[verslibre]

You know, I used to mock El Maybe, I mean Mayimbe, but man, that dude HAS made some major scoops in the past.

[verslibre]

Just saw this on his Twitter:

[YoungJRNYfan]

TNC's favorite, FARTaci reported it as well:

WB Is Moving Forward With A MAN OF STEEL Sequel
DEVIN FARACI

Here's what I know about the thinking at DC Films these days: Superman is a priority. The character has been wounded in recent years by Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, and the folks behind the scenes want to rehabilitate the Man of Tomorrow. They want to fix him, make him less mopey and less unsure of his place in the world. They view his upcoming resurrection in Justice League as sort of a soft reboot, an opportunity to right the wrongs that have been done to the Last Son of Krypton.

That new version of Superman will also get a chance at a solo adventure. One time fanboy maven and now trade journalist El Mayimbe reports at The Wrap that WB is moving into active development on a Man of Steel sequel. That's still early days - they still have to figure out stuff like 'the story' and 'the writers' - but it indicates that WB is still dedicated to this character.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/08/08/ ... eel-sequel

[YoungJRNYfan]

The Man of Steel 2 rumor never went away the last 2 years. Even though there were some conflicting reports here and there, the idea of the studio shelving Superman films was almost immediately met with fan angst and no matter how MoS or BvS was received, the main moan was how Superman needs to be done right. It's good to hear that the studio would find that tantamount important to further a Superman film. The cries for a proper Man of Steel sequel were always heard.

Also, Snyder has mentioned Brainiac a few times:


It's ALL there

[verslibre]

TNC's favorite, FARTaci reported it as well:

WB Is Moving Forward With A MAN OF STEEL Sequel
DEVIN FARACI

Here's what I know about the thinking at DC Films these days: Superman is a priority. The character has been wounded in recent years by Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, and the folks behind the scenes want to rehabilitate the Man of Tomorrow. They want to fix him, make him less mopey and less unsure of his place in the world. They view his upcoming resurrection in Justice League as sort of a soft reboot, an opportunity to right the wrongs that have been done to the Last Son of Krypton.

That new version of Superman will also get a chance at a solo adventure. One time fanboy maven and now trade journalist El Mayimbe reports at The Wrap that WB is moving into active development on a Man of Steel sequel. That's still early days - they still have to figure out stuff like 'the story' and 'the writers' - but it indicates that WB is still dedicated to this character.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/08/08/ ... eel-sequel

Fuckin' Fartaci catching a ride on Umberto's coattails for clickbait!

[YoungJRNYfan]

No doubt about it!

[verslibre]

The Man of Steel 2 rumor never went away the last 2 years. Even though there were some conflicting reports here and there, the idea of the studio shelving Superman films was almost immediately met with fan angst and no matter how MoS or BvS was received, the main moan was how Superman needs to be done right. It's good to hear that the studio would find that tantamount important to further a Superman film. The cries for a proper Man of Steel sequel were always heard.

Also, Snyder has mentioned Brainiac a few times:


It's ALL there

Brainiac is a character who is a threat on multiple levels: physical, cerebral, moral, etc. Zod's was purpose-driven, as humans were to him what livestock are to humans: taking up space.

Brainiac could be realized as something far more twisted.

[verslibre]

Btw, Squad's OW WW has been adjusted just a tad higher: $268,405,000.

Buck$!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Collider Movie Talk immediately reacts and address's Man of Steel 2's active development: (1:04-4:10)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi3WPUj ... youtu.be&a

[YoungJRNYfan]

Mark Hughes from Forbes:

"The Man of Steel Superman solo movie is alive at Warner Brothers. I know 2 directors already that were/are on the short list to direct."